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Title: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: hippocraticoaf on April 29, 2014, 12:05:21 PM
From ESPN...

DALLAS -- Commissioners at the College Football Playoff meetings have discussed going through mock exercises this week based on a template for the selection process and how the participants would be assigned to each game.

Not only must the selection committee establish a process to choose the top four teams, but it must also decide where (for example, this coming season, New Orleans or Los Angeles) each team should play.

More details on how the committee will choose the four participants for the first College Football Playoff could be finalized and announced as early as Wednesday.

Not only must the selection committee establish a process to choose the top four teams, but it must also decide where (for example, this coming season, New Orleans or Los Angeles) each team should play.

In the past, it has been discussed that a team seeded 1 or 2 should not be placed at a significant geographical disadvantage -- against, for example, a No. 3- or 4-seeded LSU in New Orleans or a No. 3- or 4-seeded UCLA in Los Angeles.

The committee also will use its rankings to determine which teams should be placed in top-tier bowl spots not contracted by particular conferences.

According to the College Football Playoff, the committee will assign teams to nonplayoff bowls in a way that creates the most compelling matchups possible while also considering factors such as geographic proximity and avoiding rematches of regular-season and recent bowl games.

Some commissioners, as well as some bowl executives, are interested in hearing more about how and why their teams would be placed in certain bowl locations.

Other items that could be finalized include when committee members will recuse themselves from team-specific discussions and when to begin and how often to release and publicly discuss the selection committee's rankings.

Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: kso_FAN on April 29, 2014, 12:05:54 PM
Meh.
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2014, 12:07:17 PM
This is great news for us given we are Americas team
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: Benja on April 29, 2014, 12:17:22 PM
We'll be fine.
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: TheHamburglar on April 29, 2014, 12:24:36 PM
Your bolded part has nothing to do with the premise of your thread title.  They will first rank the teams, then use your bolded part to place the top remaining teams.  Either we'll be in or out before they get to that part.
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: hippocraticoaf on April 29, 2014, 01:51:28 PM
Your bolded part has nothing to do with the premise of your thread title.  They will first rank the teams, then use your bolded part to place the top remaining teams.  Either we'll be in or out before they get to that part.

Basically I'm talking about the former BCS bowls (still quite prestigious) that aren't part of the CFP. I understand that the CFP will be selected based on merit.

Side note, and I'm sure it's been talked about, why the hell is Condoleeza Rice on the committee?
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: Benja on April 29, 2014, 01:58:15 PM
Your bolded part has nothing to do with the premise of your thread title.  They will first rank the teams, then use your bolded part to place the top remaining teams.  Either we'll be in or out before they get to that part.

Basically I'm talking about the former BCS bowls (still quite prestigious) that aren't part of the CFP. I understand that the CFP will be selected based on merit.

Side note, and I'm sure it's been talked about, why the hell is Condoleeza Rice on the committee?

She's probably a really smart lady and likes sports.
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: TheHamburglar on April 29, 2014, 02:02:35 PM
Your bolded part has nothing to do with the premise of your thread title.  They will first rank the teams, then use your bolded part to place the top remaining teams.  Either we'll be in or out before they get to that part.

Basically I'm talking about the former BCS bowls (still quite prestigious) that aren't part of the CFP. I understand that the CFP will be selected based on merit.

Side note, and I'm sure it's been talked about, why the hell is Condoleeza Rice on the committee?

I'm assuming by saying "former BCS bowls that's aren't part of the CFP", you're talking about the other 4 bowls in the rotation that aren't semi-finals any given year.  The pool of at-large teams for those 4 bowls will be based on merit as determined by ranking by the committee.  If there are 3 at-large spots available in a given year, they will rank teams down as far as they need to go until they have 3 teams ranked that would be at-large teams.  Those are the three teams getting into those other bowls.  Your bolded part in your original post is about assigning those at-large teams to a bowl after they've been selected as an at-large via ranking.
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 29, 2014, 02:05:06 PM
his point is we will get screwed down to the Orange or other crappy bowl even when we belong in a better one
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 29, 2014, 02:10:15 PM
Guys, I think he was trying to say that Bill's brand of football isn't always considered "compelling to watch" so they might take a high flying offense over our hard nosed defense. Orr...something.
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: TheHamburglar on April 29, 2014, 02:13:38 PM
his point is we will get screwed down to the Orange or other crappy bowl even when we belong in a better one

If that's what he's saying, then I don't get his complaint.  There are 3 at-large bowls we can be in.  Peach, Cotton, and Fiesta.  Orange Bowl is booked.  We aren't going to the Peach unless a really strange scenario plays out where it's the only open slot.  I don't really know how you'd rank the Cotton and Fiesta against each other to determine we got screwed down a level.
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: hippocraticoaf on April 29, 2014, 02:26:03 PM
his point is we will get screwed down to the Orange or other crappy bowl even when we belong in a better one

If that's what he's saying, then I don't get his complaint.  There are 3 at-large bowls we can be in.  Peach, Cotton, and Fiesta.  Orange Bowl is booked.  We aren't going to the Peach unless a really strange scenario plays out where it's the only open slot.  I don't really know how you'd rank the Cotton and Fiesta against each other to determine we got screwed down a level.

I see now what you're saying. The way I interpreted it was that K-state now still stands a chance of being left out of all the at large bowl bids even if we deserved one (similar to how at large BCS bids were).

Essentially, what I would want would be for the committee to just list the top ten teams and then match up 1vs4 and 2vs3 for the CFP, and then have the next highest teams on the list that aren't automatic bids for major bowls receive the at large spots. Rather than "compelling matchups" ie. perennial powerhouses
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: hippocraticoaf on April 29, 2014, 02:28:18 PM
Your bolded part has nothing to do with the premise of your thread title.  They will first rank the teams, then use your bolded part to place the top remaining teams.  Either we'll be in or out before they get to that part.

Basically I'm talking about the former BCS bowls (still quite prestigious) that aren't part of the CFP. I understand that the CFP will be selected based on merit.

Side note, and I'm sure it's been talked about, why the hell is Condoleeza Rice on the committee?

She's probably a really smart lady and likes sports.

I guess if there's going to be anyone on the committee who's completely impartial it would be her, and given that she stays well informed I guess there wouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: TheHamburglar on April 29, 2014, 02:32:20 PM
Essentially, what I would want would be for the committee to just list the top ten teams and then match up 1vs4 and 2vs3 for the CFP, and then have the next highest teams on the list that aren't automatic bids for major bowls receive the at large spots.

This is exactly what they are doing.  However, I do see your concern if KSU is an at-large/ pushed out of Sugar for a semi and a Duke/Wake Forest type make it as an at-large/get pushed out of the Orange Bowl for a semi, they'll go out of their way to match us up.
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: hippocraticoaf on April 29, 2014, 02:47:08 PM
Essentially, what I would want would be for the committee to just list the top ten teams and then match up 1vs4 and 2vs3 for the CFP, and then have the next highest teams on the list that aren't automatic bids for major bowls receive the at large spots.

This is exactly what they are doing.  However, I do see your concern if KSU is an at-large/ pushed out of Sugar for a semi and a Duke/Wake Forest type make it as an at-large/get pushed out of the Orange Bowl for a semi, they'll go out of their way to match us up.

Ok yeah, sorry for my misread. I didn't see that "The committee also will use its rankings to determine which teams should be placed in top-tier bowl spots not contracted by particular conferences." I think I just expected K-state to get crap on by this in someway as per usual.

And I have to say even though I think 8 is the perfect number for a playoff, this system should be sooo much better.

 :cheers: to fairness in college football.
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: OK_Cat on April 29, 2014, 02:58:33 PM
I hate most kstate fans and the 'poor me' attitude
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 29, 2014, 03:20:54 PM
Your bolded part has nothing to do with the premise of your thread title.  They will first rank the teams, then use your bolded part to place the top remaining teams.  Either we'll be in or out before they get to that part.

Basically I'm talking about the former BCS bowls (still quite prestigious) that aren't part of the CFP. I understand that the CFP will be selected based on merit.

Side note, and I'm sure it's been talked about, why the hell is Condoleeza Rice on the committee?

She looks killer in a bikini
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 29, 2014, 03:51:56 PM
Your bolded part has nothing to do with the premise of your thread title.  They will first rank the teams, then use your bolded part to place the top remaining teams.  Either we'll be in or out before they get to that part.

Basically I'm talking about the former BCS bowls (still quite prestigious) that aren't part of the CFP. I understand that the CFP will be selected based on merit.

Side note, and I'm sure it's been talked about, why the hell is Condoleeza Rice on the committee?

She loves football and is an awesome person.

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Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 29, 2014, 04:42:13 PM
Your bolded part has nothing to do with the premise of your thread title.  They will first rank the teams, then use your bolded part to place the top remaining teams.  Either we'll be in or out before they get to that part.

Basically I'm talking about the former BCS bowls (still quite prestigious) that aren't part of the CFP. I understand that the CFP will be selected based on merit.

Side note, and I'm sure it's been talked about, why the hell is Condoleeza Rice on the committee?

she understands football better than you could ever hope to.
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: hippocraticoaf on April 29, 2014, 05:07:16 PM
Your bolded part has nothing to do with the premise of your thread title.  They will first rank the teams, then use your bolded part to place the top remaining teams.  Either we'll be in or out before they get to that part.

Basically I'm talking about the former BCS bowls (still quite prestigious) that aren't part of the CFP. I understand that the CFP will be selected based on merit.

Side note, and I'm sure it's been talked about, why the hell is Condoleeza Rice on the committee?

she understands football better than you could ever hope to.

Easy there killer, just asking a question.

She just seemed like kind of a random member with no ties to the NCAA.
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: Headinjun on April 29, 2014, 11:50:47 PM
Condi Rice is a well connected war mongering oil bitch!!

As for EMAW, just win and you're in!
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: star seed 7 on April 30, 2014, 04:42:02 AM
Condi rice haters are horrible people
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: Pete on April 30, 2014, 07:03:19 AM
I wonder how many college football games these people on the committee will watch this year?  How many are they expected to watch?
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: Tobias on April 30, 2014, 07:06:43 AM

Condi rice haters are horrible people

she's just gonna make a bunch of emotional picks :curse:
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 30, 2014, 09:11:29 AM
I wonder how many college football games these people on the committee will watch this year?  How many are they expected to watch?

Honestly this.  I don't thing I've ever really thought this through before.  Do the people that do the rankings heavily rely on sports reporting?
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: Katpappy on April 30, 2014, 09:57:52 AM
I wonder how many college football games these people on the committee will watch this year?  How many are they expected to watch?

Honestly this.  I don't thing I've ever really thought this through before.  Do the people that do the rankings heavily rely on sports reporting?
They should be put in an isolated room and made to watch all the games of top teams; like a jury in a murder trail.
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: MouseRat on April 30, 2014, 10:01:52 AM
I wonder how many college football games these people on the committee will watch this year?  How many are they expected to watch?

Honestly this.  I don't thing I've ever really thought this through before.  Do the people that do the rankings heavily rely on sports reporting?
They should be put in an isolated room and made to watch all the games of top teams; like a jury in a murder trail.
This and no college gameday warm and fuzzy stories, no pregame, post game, or halftime reports or interviews, and they're not allowed to see where the teams rank.  Only their record and who they've played.
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: Katpappy on April 30, 2014, 10:22:01 AM
I wonder how many college football games these people on the committee will watch this year?  How many are they expected to watch?

Honestly this.  I don't thing I've ever really thought this through before.  Do the people that do the rankings heavily rely on sports reporting?
They should be put in an isolated room and made to watch all the games of top teams; like a jury in a murder trail.
This and no college gameday warm and fuzzy stories, no pregame, post game, or halftime reports or interviews, and they're not allowed to see where the teams rank.  Only their record and who they've played.
Better yet, they should be given the scholarship athlete treatment.  Can't recieve any outside pay of any kind or they get the boot.
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: ydarg2012 on April 30, 2014, 11:48:39 AM
I wonder how many college football games these people on the committee will watch this year?  How many are they expected to watch?

Honestly this.  I don't thing I've ever really thought this through before.  Do the people that do the rankings heavily rely on sports reporting?
They should be put in an isolated room and made to watch all the games of top teams; like a jury in a murder trail.
This and no college gameday warm and fuzzy stories, no pregame, post game, or halftime reports or interviews, and they're not allowed to see where the teams rank.  Only their record and who they've played.
Better yet, they should be given the scholarship athlete treatment.  Can't recieve any outside pay of any kind or they get the boot.

Better yet yet, the videos should be edited so you can't tell who the teams are, only see their talent and production.  That way the decision is 100% unbiased.
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: MadCat on April 30, 2014, 01:41:38 PM
I wonder how many college football games these people on the committee will watch this year?  How many are they expected to watch?

Honestly this.  I don't thing I've ever really thought this through before.  Do the people that do the rankings heavily rely on sports reporting?
They should be put in an isolated room and made to watch all the games of top teams; like a jury in a murder trail Clockwork Orange.
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: massofcatfan on April 30, 2014, 04:00:25 PM
I wonder how many college football games these people on the committee will watch this year?  How many are they expected to watch?

Honestly this.  I don't thing I've ever really thought this through before.  Do the people that do the rankings heavily rely on sports reporting?
They should be put in an isolated room and made to watch all the games of top teams; like a jury in a murder trail Clockwork Orange.

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Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: Headinjun on April 30, 2014, 06:11:38 PM
Condi rice haters are horrible people

People who participate in mis-information campaigns to bring on  conflict that can benefit them and their special interests are the worst type Americans.

It's even worse when thousands get killed because of those actions. 
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 30, 2014, 06:37:51 PM
Condi rice haters are horrible people

People who participate in mis-information campaigns to bring on  conflict that can benefit them and their special interests are the worst type Americans.

It's even worse when thousands get killed because of those actions.

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Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: Demo158 on April 30, 2014, 07:16:46 PM

Condi rice haters are horrible people

People who participate in mis-information campaigns to bring on  conflict that can benefit them and their special interests are the worst type Americans.

It's even worse when thousands get killed because of those actions.
Take this to the Pit you fuckin idiot! This is the football board!!


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Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: hippocraticoaf on April 30, 2014, 07:56:21 PM

Condi rice haters are horrible people

People who participate in mis-information campaigns to bring on  conflict that can benefit them and their special interests are the worst type Americans.

It's even worse when thousands get killed because of those actions.
Take this to the Pit you fuckin idiot! This is the football board!!


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As an expert in worthless message board bickering, I concur.
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: Headinjun on April 30, 2014, 09:27:44 PM
She was brought up in a FB thread so people responded.

Deal with it!
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: Demo158 on April 30, 2014, 09:37:59 PM

She was brought up in a FB thread so people responded.

Deal with it!
I probably wouldn't have raised an issue with it if you weren't such a terrible rough ridin' poster with such a stupid rough ridin' name



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Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: Headinjun on April 30, 2014, 09:39:25 PM
Who are you again?
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 30, 2014, 09:43:27 PM
How does this snub us?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: Demo158 on April 30, 2014, 09:52:07 PM

Who are you again?
Someone who thinks you're a terrible rough ridin' poster with a stupid rough ridin' name. You really are dense huh?


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Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: Headinjun on April 30, 2014, 09:56:04 PM

Who are you again?
Someone who thinks you're a terrible rough ridin' poster with a stupid rough ridin' name. You really are dense huh?


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That doesn't mean anything.

Anyways why do you want such a horrible person associated with CFB which is Americas favorite sport?

She's a terrible human being and it should be pointed out at every turn. 
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: Katpappy on April 30, 2014, 10:12:39 PM

Who are you again?
Someone who thinks you're a terrible rough ridin' poster with a stupid rough ridin' name. You really are dense huh?


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That doesn't mean anything.

Anyways why do you want such a horrible person associated with CFB which is Americas favorite sport?

She's a terrible human being and it she pointed out at every turn.
That bitch supported the bastard who sent thousands of our young men to die for Halliburton.  WMD's WTF?  :curse:
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: MouseRat on April 30, 2014, 10:29:16 PM

Who are you again?
Someone who thinks you're a terrible rough ridin' poster with a stupid rough ridin' name. You really are dense huh?


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That doesn't mean anything.

Anyways why do you want such a horrible person associated with CFB which is Americas favorite sport?

She's a terrible human being and it she pointed out at every turn.
That bitch supported the bastard who sent thousands of our young men to die for Halliburton.  WMD's WTF?  :curse:
So did the men and women who served overseas.  Don't bring politics into this thread please.
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: Katpappy on April 30, 2014, 10:46:49 PM

Who are you again?
Someone who thinks you're a terrible rough ridin' poster with a stupid rough ridin' name. You really are dense huh?


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That doesn't mean anything.

Anyways why do you want such a horrible person associated with CFB which is Americas favorite sport?

She's a terrible human being and it she pointed out at every turn.
That bitch supported the bastard who sent thousands of our young men to die for Halliburton.  WMD's WTF?  :curse:
So did the men and women who served overseas.  Don't bring politics into this thread please.
Not the dead ones.
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: DQ12 on April 30, 2014, 10:59:21 PM
I hate most kstate fans and the 'poor me' attitude
If you don't think K-State gets less credit than it deserves then you're either stupid or not paying attention.


WAKE UP, DUMMY.
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: Katpappy on April 30, 2014, 11:07:37 PM
I hate most kstate fans and the 'poor me' attitude
If you don't think K-State gets less credit than it deserves then you're either stupid or not paying attention.


WAKE UP, DUMMY.
Forget it Dlew,  he's stupid and won't understand.  He's got to much Okie dust in his brain.
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: Demo158 on April 30, 2014, 11:21:33 PM

Who are you again?
Someone who thinks you're a terrible rough ridin' poster with a stupid rough ridin' name. You really are dense huh?


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That doesn't mean anything.

Anyways why do you want such a horrible person associated with CFB which is Americas favorite sport?

She's a terrible human being and it should be pointed out at every turn.
:facepalm: You must be dyslexic..
Title: Re: Well, so continues the tradition of K-State getting snubbed in bowl selections
Post by: hippocraticoaf on May 01, 2014, 02:08:58 AM
How does this snub us?  :dunno:

Not sure if you read through the first page (wouldn't blame you if you didn't), but I missed a part of the article that actually showed the selection process to be almost exactly how I want it.

So yeah I kinda messed up reading the article, but at least this thread turned into a debate about the war in Iraq.  :facepalm: