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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: Rage Against the McKee on April 03, 2014, 01:27:10 PM
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This sounds pretty awful.
http://cjonline.com/news/state/2014-04-02/private-school-tax-credit-clouds-kansas-senate-school-bill (http://cjonline.com/news/state/2014-04-02/private-school-tax-credit-clouds-kansas-senate-school-bill)
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It would be a welcome property tax credit for a low income home owner that would like to put their child into a private school. They may not be able to afford it otherwise.
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First of all, why would the state offer a credit on a tax that they don't collect? Secondly, the proposed credit does nothing to account for people without kids who are still paying taxes, so it is not "fair".
If you want to send your kid to private school, you should expect to pay for that. As a taxpayer without kids, the idea of my tax money going to private school tuition is somewhat offensive.
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First of all, why would the state offer a credit on a tax that they don't collect? Secondly, the proposed credit does nothing to account for people without kids who are still paying taxes, so it is not "fair".
If you want to send your kid to private school, you should expect to pay for that. As a taxpayer without kids, the idea of my tax money going to private school tuition is somewhat offensive.
This argument can be made for literally rough ridin' everything. Get over it.
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First of all, why would the state offer a credit on a tax that they don't collect? Secondly, the proposed credit does nothing to account for people without kids who are still paying taxes, so it is not "fair".
If you want to send your kid to private school, you should expect to pay for that. As a taxpayer without kids, the idea of my tax money going to private school tuition is somewhat offensive.
For the same reason the federal government imposes mandates on local school districts.
Why? I would consider it a better use of funds than the useless money pit that is public education. At least the kid is learning.
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if you want your kid in private school, then pay for it yourself, it's not the states responsibility to help you.
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First of all, why would the state offer a credit on a tax that they don't collect? Secondly, the proposed credit does nothing to account for people without kids who are still paying taxes, so it is not "fair".
If you want to send your kid to private school, you should expect to pay for that. As a taxpayer without kids, the idea of my tax money going to private school tuition is somewhat offensive.
For the same reason the federal government imposes mandates on local school districts.
Why? I would consider it a better use of funds than the useless money pit that is public education. At least the kid is learning.
If the state's public schools are failing (they aren't), then that is the state's responsibility. I don't see taking tax money away from state schools and giving it to other schools as a solution.
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First of all, why would the state offer a credit on a tax that they don't collect? Secondly, the proposed credit does nothing to account for people without kids who are still paying taxes, so it is not "fair".
If you want to send your kid to private school, you should expect to pay for that. As a taxpayer without kids, the idea of my tax money going to private school tuition is somewhat offensive.
This argument can be made for literally rough ridin' everything. Get over it.
Maybe give one example? :dunno:
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First of all, why would the state offer a credit on a tax that they don't collect? Secondly, the proposed credit does nothing to account for people without kids who are still paying taxes, so it is not "fair".
If you want to send your kid to private school, you should expect to pay for that. As a taxpayer without kids, the idea of my tax money going to private school tuition is somewhat offensive.
For the same reason the federal government imposes mandates on local school districts.
Why? I would consider it a better use of funds than the useless money pit that is public education. At least the kid is learning.
If the state's public schools are failing (they aren't), then that is the state's responsibility. I don't see taking tax money away from state schools and giving it to other schools as a solution.
exactly. if the schools are "broke", then fix them, just moving students over to private schools doesn't help the problem at all.
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First of all, why would the state offer a credit on a tax that they don't collect? Secondly, the proposed credit does nothing to account for people without kids who are still paying taxes, so it is not "fair".
If you want to send your kid to private school, you should expect to pay for that. As a taxpayer without kids, the idea of my tax money going to private school tuition is somewhat offensive.
This argument can be made for literally rough ridin' everything. Get over it.
Maybe give one example? :dunno:
"As a catholic, the idea of my tax money going towards abortion is somewhat offensive."
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First of all, why would the state offer a credit on a tax that they don't collect? Secondly, the proposed credit does nothing to account for people without kids who are still paying taxes, so it is not "fair".
If you want to send your kid to private school, you should expect to pay for that. As a taxpayer without kids, the idea of my tax money going to private school tuition is somewhat offensive.
This argument can be made for literally rough ridin' everything. Get over it.
Maybe give one example? :dunno:
as someone that wants to work, I find it offensive that my tax money goes to someone that doesn't want to work.
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"As a catholic, the idea of my tax money going towards abortion is somewhat offensive."
you want to get that vacuum abortion tax money back and put it into coat hanger abortions.
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I don't think it will pass even in kansas.
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First of all, why would the state offer a credit on a tax that they don't collect? Secondly, the proposed credit does nothing to account for people without kids who are still paying taxes, so it is not "fair".
If you want to send your kid to private school, you should expect to pay for that. As a taxpayer without kids, the idea of my tax money going to private school tuition is somewhat offensive.
This argument can be made for literally rough ridin' everything. Get over it.
Maybe give one example? :dunno:
The number of plausible examples boggles the mind. You're smart enough to come up with one.
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i don't think the interstate is safe enough for my children so help me pay my share for a parallel private one that doesn't allow trucks
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i don't think the interstate is safe enough for my children so help me pay my share for a parallel private one that doesn't allow trucks
i'm not sure that the salina police are properly protecting your kids, should probably have the state pay for your private security force
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why do poor people want their kids to go to school with rich kids?
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why do poor people want their kids to go to school with rich kids?
Trying to hard here.
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is the anti-academia crowd going to provide an example of a tax credit for replicating an existing government service???
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i don't think the interstate is safe enough for my children so help me pay my share for a parallel private one that doesn't allow trucks
i'm not sure that the salina police are properly protecting your kids, should probably have the state pay for your private security force
Tax credits for Judges would solve the problem.
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If all the dumbasses kids go to private school, the private schools won't be as good.
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If all the dumbasses kids go to private school, the private schools won't be as good.
the credit has a limit so they can add the credit to the current tuition and continue pricing out undesirables.
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is the anti-academia crowd going to provide an example of a tax credit for replicating an existing government service???
This is a pro-academia, anti-public education thread.
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is the anti-academia crowd going to provide an example of a tax credit for replicating an existing government service???
This is a pro-academia, anti-public education thread.
so you can't give an example. thanks, dumbass.
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is the anti-academia crowd going to provide an example of a tax credit for replicating an existing government service???
This is a people who got picked on in public school thread.
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public parks are sooooooooooooo crowded, the government should give a park to just me and my friends
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is the anti-academia crowd going to provide an example of a tax credit for replicating an existing government service???
This is a pro-academia, anti-public education thread.
so you can't give an example. thanks, dumbass.
I'm not one of the anti-academia crowd.
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I like this idea. I've thought of something similar myself.
I think that if parents decide to send their children to private school and not use the public service provided then for the time that their children are in school they are allotted a portion of the property taxes related to education back with a credit or subsidy.
I've always thought it was a fair trade off.
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:impatient:
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First of all, why would the state offer a credit on a tax that they don't collect? Secondly, the proposed credit does nothing to account for people without kids who are still paying taxes, so it is not "fair".
If you want to send your kid to private school, you should expect to pay for that. As a taxpayer without kids, the idea of my tax money going to private school tuition is somewhat offensive.
This argument can be made for literally rough ridin' everything. Get over it.
Maybe give one example? :dunno:
"As a catholic, the idea of my tax money going towards abortion is somewhat offensive."
I don't like the idea of tax money going toward abortion, either, but it's better than using it to make most kids' educations worse.
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where can i go to get these taxpayer funded abortions
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where can i go to get these taxpayer funded abortions
Planned parenthood. Just tell them you can't afford your abortion and they'll shift some state medicaid money your way.
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where can i go to get these taxpayer funded abortions
Planned parenthood. Just tell them you can't afford your abortion and they'll shift some state medicaid money your way.
Thanks friend, I'll keep that in the ol' memory bank ;)
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Could the public school system handle all of the kids that are in private school? If not, who would pay to build more public schools if all of the private schools suddenly closed?
Happy to provide you all with a little bit lower tax bill. You are welcome.
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why wouldn't the public schools be able to handle private school kids?
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why wouldn't the public schools be able to handle private school kids?
Need to hire more teachers, maybe build more schools?
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What if you rent and want to go to private school?
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why wouldn't the public schools be able to handle private school kids?
Need to hire more teachers, maybe build more schools?
Why wouldn't they go attend the school that they are in the attendance area of?
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What if you rent and want to go to private school?
It’s about fairness
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why wouldn't the public schools be able to handle private school kids?
Need to hire more teachers, maybe build more schools?
Why wouldn't they go attend the school that they are in the attendance area of?
I don't recall where you live, but yes, I am sure the state of KS public school system could absorb the 210 private schools, which serve 42,000 students, without any expansion.
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why wouldn't the public schools be able to handle private school kids?
Need to hire more teachers, maybe build more schools?
Why wouldn't they go attend the school that they are in the attendance area of?
I don't recall where you live, but yes, I am sure the state of KS public school system could absorb the 210 private schools, which serve 42,000 students, without any expansion.
That would be about 130 students per district. I think they would probably manage ok.
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yeah, doesn't seem like that much.
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And hypothetically yes, I bet the state would kick in some more money if all the private schools suddenly closed.
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I like this idea. I've thought of something similar myself.
I think that if parents decide to send their children to private school and not use the public service provided then for the time that their children are in school they are allotted a portion of the property taxes related to education back with a credit or subsidy.
I've always thought it was a fair trade off.
I am not ever going to send any children to public school. Do I get a credit?
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why wouldn't the public schools be able to handle private school kids?
Need to hire more teachers, maybe build more schools?
Why wouldn't they go attend the school that they are in the attendance area of?
I don't recall where you live, but yes, I am sure the state of KS public school system could absorb the 210 private schools, which serve 42,000 students, without any expansion.
That would be about 130 students per district. I think they would probably manage ok.
Do you have kids in school? Pretty sure they are already struggling with not being able to hire enough teachers.
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And hypothetically yes, I bet the state would kick in some more money if all the private schools suddenly closed.
I'm glad the state would kick in some more money. I was afraid that would fall on the tax payers' shoulders.
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obviously dobber has his hand in the BIG PRIVATE cookie jar
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why wouldn't the public schools be able to handle private school kids?
Need to hire more teachers, maybe build more schools?
Why wouldn't they go attend the school that they are in the attendance area of?
I don't recall where you live, but yes, I am sure the state of KS public school system could absorb the 210 private schools, which serve 42,000 students, without any expansion.
That would be about 130 students per district. I think they would probably manage ok.
Do you have kids in school? Pretty sure they are already struggling with not being able to hire enough teachers.
I don't have kids at all.
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Sometimes I drive on the Turnpike. Can I get a credit for the time that I was not driving on the public roads?
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why wouldn't the public schools be able to handle private school kids?
Need to hire more teachers, maybe build more schools?
Why wouldn't they go attend the school that they are in the attendance area of?
I don't recall where you live, but yes, I am sure the state of KS public school system could absorb the 210 private schools, which serve 42,000 students, without any expansion.
That would be about 130 students per district. I think they would probably manage ok.
Do you have kids in school? Pretty sure they are already struggling with not being able to hire enough teachers.
I don't have kids at all.
Thank you for your contribution via your tax dollars! :cheers:
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why wouldn't the public schools be able to handle private school kids?
Need to hire more teachers, maybe build more schools?
Why wouldn't they go attend the school that they are in the attendance area of?
I don't recall where you live, but yes, I am sure the state of KS public school system could absorb the 210 private schools, which serve 42,000 students, without any expansion.
That would be about 130 students per district. I think they would probably manage ok.
Do you have kids in school? Pretty sure they are already struggling with not being able to hire enough teachers.
I don't have kids at all.
Thank you for your contribution via your tax dollars! :cheers:
You're welcome. Gotta make sure the hiring pool looks good in 10 years.
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why wouldn't the public schools be able to handle private school kids?
Need to hire more teachers, maybe build more schools?
Why wouldn't they go attend the school that they are in the attendance area of?
I don't recall where you live, but yes, I am sure the state of KS public school system could absorb the 210 private schools, which serve 42,000 students, without any expansion.
That would be about 130 students per district. I think they would probably manage ok.
Do you have kids in school? Pretty sure they are already struggling with not being able to hire enough teachers.
If only there were a work force of recently laid off private school teachers. Never going to solve that I guess. welp
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Sometimes I drive on the Turnpike. Can I get a credit for the time that I was not driving on the public roads?
NO, you benefitted from goods and services being delivered to you on public roads
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I really thought the sensitivity related to a child's education could be looked at a little more closely than trash service and roads.
I think this is an area where we could offer some sort of help for those wishing to educate their kids elsewhere while still paying for a large service they don't use.
I don't have a problem with this.
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I really thought the sensitivity related to a child's education could be looked at a little more closely than trash service and roads.
I think this is an area where we could offer some sort of help for those wishing to educate their kids elsewhere while still paying for a large service they don't use.
I don't have a problem with this.
Public education provides an enormous benefit to everyone. It's a better benefit than trash and roads, anyway.
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What about people who home school their kids? Do they get a credit?
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I really thought the sensitivity related to a child's education could be looked at a little more closely than trash service and roads.
I think this is an area where we could offer some sort of help for those wishing to educate their kids elsewhere while still paying for a large service they don't use.
I don't have a problem with this.
Public education provides an enormous benefit to everyone. It's a better benefit than trash and roads, anyway.
I understand that. The credit should expire upon graduation.
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What about people who home school their kids? Do they get a credit?
I say they should at least be eligible for a partial credit since no tuition is involved.
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Sometimes I drive on the Turnpike. Can I get a credit for the time that I was not driving on the public roads?
NO, you benefitted from goods and services being delivered to you on public roads
Yeah, but the people who I am paying to provide those services already paid their taxes to cover their use of the roads.
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Private schools are a luxury and if someone wants them, they can pay out of pocket. As has been mentioned, whether I have kids or not I pay into the school system as educated young people are a benefit to society. Subsidizing private school allows parents to not pay for the net benefit of society while still extending that benefit to their children.
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Private schools are a luxury and if someone wants them, they can pay out of pocket. As has been mentioned, whether I have kids or not I pay into the school system as educated young people are a benefit to society. Subsidizing private school allows parents to not pay for the net benefit of society while still extending that benefit to their children.
well put, chicat
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I really thought the sensitivity related to a child's education could be looked at a little more closely than trash service and roads.
I think this is an area where we could offer some sort of help for those wishing to educate their kids elsewhere while still paying for a large service they don't use.
I don't have a problem with this.
to your first, this is a meta argument from people who want our government to look like Somalia instead of the organs and instituions which built America into the greatest country ever on the face of the world
second, you'd have to be pretty damn foolish, damn near stupid to think the tax credits being offered are in line with the amount of money the individual pays to public education. hint, its not a dollar in dollar out system.
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why wouldn't the public schools be able to handle private school kids?
Need to hire more teachers, maybe build more schools?
Why wouldn't they go attend the school that they are in the attendance area of?
I don't recall where you live, but yes, I am sure the state of KS public school system could absorb the 210 private schools, which serve 42,000 students, without any expansion.
That would be about 130 students per district. I think they would probably manage ok.
Christ
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slightly OT but we should just get rid of public schools period. problem solved.
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get rid of public schools
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slightly OT but we should just get rid of public schools period. problem solved.
What problem is solved?
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slightly OT but we should just get rid of public schools period. problem solved.
What problem is solved?
you could like choose a school for your kids and not pay for anyone else's kids' education. So to answer your question...all problems are solved.
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I really thought the sensitivity related to a child's education could be looked at a little more closely than trash service and roads.
I think this is an area where we could offer some sort of help for those wishing to educate their kids elsewhere while still paying for a large service they don't use.
I don't have a problem with this.
to your first, this is a meta argument from people who want our government to look like Somalia instead of the organs and instituions which built America into the greatest country ever on the face of the world
second, you'd have to be pretty damn foolish, damn near stupid to think the tax credits being offered are in line with the amount of money the individual pays to public education. hint, its not a dollar in dollar out system.
Well I'm not sure how you arrived that I'm somehow pining for some pro-Somali structure, or whatever.. I still believe in increased public education funding, and especially at the University level where real economic gain can be found.
You're right the proposal is too high, maybe a 500-700 dollar credit would be more reasonable..
I'm trying to find a win-win here for those who support public education (me), and those who choose to educate elsewhere.
If it doesn't exist how about an interest deduction for loans taken out on private prep school?
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Sometimes I drive on the Turnpike. Can I get a credit for the time that I was not driving on the public roads?
NO, you benefitted from goods and services being delivered to you on public roads
Yeah, but the people who I am paying to provide those services already paid their taxes to cover their use of the roads.
Well good luck just strictly driving the turnpike throughout your living existence.
Quit being dumb.
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slightly OT but we should just get rid of public schools period. problem solved.
What problem is solved?
you could like choose a school for your kids and not pay for anyone else's kids' education. So to answer your question...all problems are solved.
Well, you still haven't identified any problems that need solving.
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slightly OT but we should just get rid of public schools period. problem solved.
What problem is solved?
you could like choose a school for your kids and not pay for anyone else's kids' education. So to answer your question...all problems are solved.
Well, you still haven't identified any problems that need solving.
This would create a market where you'd see more schools that are okay with teaching kids Jesus rode dinosaurs.
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What's wrong with that??
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public parks are sooooooooooooo crowded, the government should give a park to just me and my friends
Pro Tip- All the land along major rivers is public access up to the high water mark(defined as where debris is clearly visible from past floods). This is basically ben ji's personal park along the ks river...I go out there all the time and have only ran into a couple of fisherman and 1 hippie looking for morels.
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What about people who home school their kids? Do they get a credit?
They get a deduction for bringing weirdos into our world.
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How could anyone possibly care whether a child's state allotment goes to one school over another. Public schools let out of district kids enroll everywhere for the very reason of grabbing that allotment. Why shouldn't private schools be able to do the same?
Dems seem to be hitting some historic level of irrational butt hurt
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If they want to allow more government funds into private schools then they should increase regulations on the private schools. Which is what weird private school parents are running from to begin with.
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How could anyone possibly care whether a child's state allotment goes to one school over another. Public schools let out of district kids enroll everywhere for the very reason of grabbing that allotment. Why shouldn't private schools be able to do the same?
Dems seem to be hitting some historic level of irrational butt hurt
Then they should have no problem being regulated and not teaching a generation of kids that the earth is 6000 years old.
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If they want to allow more government funds into private schools then they should increase regulations on the private schools. Which is what weird private school parents are running from to begin with.
I'm for that too..
If government funds are supporting a private school then you can't fire a teacher because he's gay or because she is unmarried and went on a date.
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If they want to allow more government funds into private schools then they should increase regulations on the private schools. Which is what weird private school parents are running from to begin with.
I'm for that too..
If government funds are supporting a private school then you can't fire a teacher because he's gay or because she is unmarried and went on a date.
What if she goes boobs out on a college basketball player?
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How could anyone possibly care whether a child's state allotment goes to one school over another. Public schools let out of district kids enroll everywhere for the very reason of grabbing that allotment. Why shouldn't private schools be able to do the same?
Dems seem to be hitting some historic level of irrational butt hurt
Then they should have no problem being regulated and not teaching a generation of kids that the earth is 6000 years old.
Sounds like a magnet school.
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How could anyone possibly care whether a child's state allotment goes to one school over another. Public schools let out of district kids enroll everywhere for the very reason of grabbing that allotment. Why shouldn't private schools be able to do the same?
Dems seem to be hitting some historic level of irrational butt hurt
Then they should have no problem being regulated and not teaching a generation of kids that the earth is 6000 years old.
Sounds like a magnet school.
Catholic school
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I thought conservatives were the people with irrational fears.
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I thought conservatives were the people with irrational fears.
Relevant
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Sometimes I drive on the Turnpike. Can I get a credit for the time that I was not driving on the public roads?
NO, you benefitted from goods and services being delivered to you on public roads
Yeah, but the people who I am paying to provide those services already paid their taxes to cover their use of the roads.
Well good luck just strictly driving the turnpike throughout your living existence.
Quit being dumb.
OK, so this credit thing is for parents who only send all their kids to private school their whole life and not for those who move to a private school after some years in public school. So only for the people who are so rich they can afford to send all their kids to private school their whole life.
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Sometimes I drive on the Turnpike. Can I get a credit for the time that I was not driving on the public roads?
NO, you benefitted from goods and services being delivered to you on public roads
Yeah, but the people who I am paying to provide those services already paid their taxes to cover their use of the roads.
Well good luck just strictly driving the turnpike throughout your living existence.
Quit being dumb.
She just wants credit for the times she chose not to use the public services. Why can't she just save her receipts and then take that total off of her next car tag? It's the same thing.
I mean, if all of those people on the private toll roads started driving on the public roads, those public roads would start getting really clogged really fast.
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Sometimes I drive on the Turnpike. Can I get a credit for the time that I was not driving on the public roads?
NO, you benefitted from goods and services being delivered to you on public roads
Yeah, but the people who I am paying to provide those services already paid their taxes to cover their use of the roads.
Well good luck just strictly driving the turnpike throughout your living existence.
Quit being dumb.
She just wants credit for the times she chose not to use the public services. Why can't she just save her receipts and then take that total off of her next car tag? It's the same thing.
I mean, if all of those people on the private toll roads started driving on the public roads, those public roads would start getting really clogged really fast.
Good idea.
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I really thought the sensitivity related to a child's education could be looked at a little more closely than trash service and roads.
I think this is an area where we could offer some sort of help for those wishing to educate their kids elsewhere while still paying for a large service they don't use.
I don't have a problem with this.
to your first, this is a meta argument from people who want our government to look like Somalia instead of the organs and instituions which built America into the greatest country ever on the face of the world
second, you'd have to be pretty damn foolish, damn near stupid to think the tax credits being offered are in line with the amount of money the individual pays to public education. hint, its not a dollar in dollar out system.
Well I'm not sure how you arrived that I'm somehow pining for some pro-Somali structure, or whatever.. I still believe in increased public education funding, and especially at the University level where real economic gain can be found.
You're right the proposal is too high, maybe a 500-700 dollar credit would be more reasonable..
I'm trying to find a win-win here for those who support public education (me), and those who choose to educate elsewhere.
If it doesn't exist how about an interest deduction for loans taken out on private prep school?
Sorry, I took your initial musings as a question rather than a position, I didn't mean to pigeonhole you into the FSD/John anti-intellectual, anti-gov somali movement.
I'd have to think about your tax proposal. I'm generally in favor of using taxation as a motivator instead of direct public monies, its definitely an interesting position.
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Sometimes I drive on the Turnpike. Can I get a credit for the time that I was not driving on the public roads?
NO, you benefitted from goods and services being delivered to you on public roads
Yeah, but the people who I am paying to provide those services already paid their taxes to cover their use of the roads.
Well good luck just strictly driving the turnpike throughout your living existence.
Quit being dumb.
She just wants credit for the times she chose not to use the public services. Why can't she just save her receipts and then take that total off of her next car tag? It's the same thing.
I mean, if all of those people on the private toll roads started driving on the public roads, those public roads would start getting really clogged really fast.
Good idea.
Yes. More pot holes for everyone!
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I really thought the sensitivity related to a child's education could be looked at a little more closely than trash service and roads.
I think this is an area where we could offer some sort of help for those wishing to educate their kids elsewhere while still paying for a large service they don't use.
I don't have a problem with this.
to your first, this is a meta argument from people who want our government to look like Somalia instead of the organs and instituions which built America into the greatest country ever on the face of the world
second, you'd have to be pretty damn foolish, damn near stupid to think the tax credits being offered are in line with the amount of money the individual pays to public education. hint, its not a dollar in dollar out system.
Well I'm not sure how you arrived that I'm somehow pining for some pro-Somali structure, or whatever.. I still believe in increased public education funding, and especially at the University level where real economic gain can be found.
You're right the proposal is too high, maybe a 500-700 dollar credit would be more reasonable..
I'm trying to find a win-win here for those who support public education (me), and those who choose to educate elsewhere.
If it doesn't exist how about an interest deduction for loans taken out on private prep school?
Sorry, I took your initial musings as a question rather than a position, I didn't mean to pigeonhole you into the FSD/John anti-intellectual, anti-gov somali movement.
I'd have to think about your tax proposal. I'm generally in favor of using taxation as a motivator instead of direct public monies, its definitely an interesting position.
The only anti-intellectual thinking going on here is believing our government is efficient and effective at education.
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I really thought the sensitivity related to a child's education could be looked at a little more closely than trash service and roads.
I think this is an area where we could offer some sort of help for those wishing to educate their kids elsewhere while still paying for a large service they don't use.
I don't have a problem with this.
to your first, this is a meta argument from people who want our government to look like Somalia instead of the organs and instituions which built America into the greatest country ever on the face of the world
second, you'd have to be pretty damn foolish, damn near stupid to think the tax credits being offered are in line with the amount of money the individual pays to public education. hint, its not a dollar in dollar out system.
Well I'm not sure how you arrived that I'm somehow pining for some pro-Somali structure, or whatever.. I still believe in increased public education funding, and especially at the University level where real economic gain can be found.
You're right the proposal is too high, maybe a 500-700 dollar credit would be more reasonable..
I'm trying to find a win-win here for those who support public education (me), and those who choose to educate elsewhere.
If it doesn't exist how about an interest deduction for loans taken out on private prep school?
Sorry, I took your initial musings as a question rather than a position, I didn't mean to pigeonhole you into the FSD/John anti-intellectual, anti-gov somali movement.
I'd have to think about your tax proposal. I'm generally in favor of using taxation as a motivator instead of direct public monies, its definitely an interesting position.
The only anti-intellectual thinking going on here is believing our government is efficient and effective at education.
Seems like maybe we should try to do some things the way that those countries with better systems are doing them.
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I really thought the sensitivity related to a child's education could be looked at a little more closely than trash service and roads.
I think this is an area where we could offer some sort of help for those wishing to educate their kids elsewhere while still paying for a large service they don't use.
I don't have a problem with this.
to your first, this is a meta argument from people who want our government to look like Somalia instead of the organs and instituions which built America into the greatest country ever on the face of the world
second, you'd have to be pretty damn foolish, damn near stupid to think the tax credits being offered are in line with the amount of money the individual pays to public education. hint, its not a dollar in dollar out system.
Well I'm not sure how you arrived that I'm somehow pining for some pro-Somali structure, or whatever.. I still believe in increased public education funding, and especially at the University level where real economic gain can be found.
You're right the proposal is too high, maybe a 500-700 dollar credit would be more reasonable..
I'm trying to find a win-win here for those who support public education (me), and those who choose to educate elsewhere.
If it doesn't exist how about an interest deduction for loans taken out on private prep school?
Sorry, I took your initial musings as a question rather than a position, I didn't mean to pigeonhole you into the FSD/John anti-intellectual, anti-gov somali movement.
I'd have to think about your tax proposal. I'm generally in favor of using taxation as a motivator instead of direct public monies, its definitely an interesting position.
The only anti-intellectual thinking going on here is believing our government is efficient and effective at education.
Seems like maybe we should try to do some things the way that those countries with better systems are doing them.
i think he wants to move to the central american model where there is no public school and only rich kids get educated :dunno:
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You know the public education system here has failed when there are more English speaking people in China than in our own country.
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You know the public education system here has failed when there are more English speaking people in China than in our own country.
i wonder if that has anything to do with china having a legit 1billion more people than the usa and english being the "world" language.
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You know the public education system here has failed when there are more English speaking people in China than in our own country.
i wonder if that has anything to do with china having a legit 1billion more people than the usa and english being the "world" language.
Maybe? I'm still pissed though.
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england, what a giant pile of crap
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I really thought the sensitivity related to a child's education could be looked at a little more closely than trash service and roads.
I think this is an area where we could offer some sort of help for those wishing to educate their kids elsewhere while still paying for a large service they don't use.
I don't have a problem with this.
to your first, this is a meta argument from people who want our government to look like Somalia instead of the organs and instituions which built America into the greatest country ever on the face of the world
second, you'd have to be pretty damn foolish, damn near stupid to think the tax credits being offered are in line with the amount of money the individual pays to public education. hint, its not a dollar in dollar out system.
Well I'm not sure how you arrived that I'm somehow pining for some pro-Somali structure, or whatever.. I still believe in increased public education funding, and especially at the University level where real economic gain can be found.
You're right the proposal is too high, maybe a 500-700 dollar credit would be more reasonable..
I'm trying to find a win-win here for those who support public education (me), and those who choose to educate elsewhere.
If it doesn't exist how about an interest deduction for loans taken out on private prep school?
Sorry, I took your initial musings as a question rather than a position, I didn't mean to pigeonhole you into the FSD/John anti-intellectual, anti-gov somali movement.
I'd have to think about your tax proposal. I'm generally in favor of using taxation as a motivator instead of direct public monies, its definitely an interesting position.
The only anti-intellectual thinking going on here is believing our government is efficient and effective at education.
This is always the blanket bomb that anti-society types always throw around about everything government.
Considering education budgets have decreased in this state and that kids still graduate with a chance to gain good employment then I would say they've done pretty well with what has been provided.
If your so anti-government then why not just stick to watching the NFL and NBA. Let me warn you though, they're union.
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What if she goes boobs out on a college basketball player?
I saw her jogging yesterday at about noon...clearly has a lot of free time on her hands now. For those wondering, her boobs looked much better in her tank top than pressed against Naadir.
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What if she goes boobs out on a college basketball player?
I saw her jogging yesterday at about noon...clearly has a lot of free time on her hands now. For those wondering, her boobs looked much better in her tank top than pressed against Naadir.
getting exercise is important in times of stress
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Anti-intellectual and Anti-society? Small Govt somali movement!
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So blessed to be around so many thoughtful, sophisticated, first world people.