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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: kslim on March 24, 2014, 04:17:07 PM
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Being combo season and all, i have always been curious what is at the bottom of the deep ocean. Do megladons still chill down there? Just frightening to think about all of the different things that could be at the ocean floor (including a Malaysian plane)
Anyone else curious what the depths of our earth hold and why we have only explored about 10% of it?
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Creepy fish.
Case closed.
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why are you trying to open up my nightmares
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why are you trying to open up my nightmares
i just find it extremely interesting. Such a vast place that nobody knows anything about
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so is the water down there really cold or really hot?
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Have you seen transformers?
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Those are totes adorbs. Id buy one
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that one fish looks like he keeps his brains in his mouth
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Why do super deep fish have to look all extra horror-filmy?
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Have you seen transformers?
:thumbs:
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Have you seen Pacific Rim?
FYP.
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Why do super deep fish have to look all extra horror-filmy?
see, right here. Think about the crap 10k plus deep thats never even been discovered
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so is the water down there really cold or really hot?
Neither.
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so is the water down there really cold or really hot?
Neither.
so in a place of extremes, the water temp is average
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Probably.
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Probably.
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well, that answer scores a point for the OP. WHY DON'T WE KNOW
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so is the water down there really cold or really hot?
Neither.
so in a place of extremes, the water temp is average
If it was super cold, it would freeze. If it was hot, it would rise. Unless around a geological cause of constant heating, I would imagine it is cold but not some super cold temperature
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After 600ft the temp is barely above freezing, but consistent to the bottom
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After 600ft the temp is barely above freezing, but consistent to the bottom
except at thermal vents, of course!
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After 600ft the temp is barely above freezing, but consistent to the bottom
i would file that under extremely cold, being as you could only be in in a couple minutes before hypothermia sets in
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Probs a ton of skeletons and old trash down there
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Lots of whale crap.
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King Triton
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Just spitballin' here, but couldn't the immense pressure change the properties of the "water" at that depth, allowing it to actually be colder than the normal freezing point at sea level and 1.0 atm but still remain in a liquid state? Plus, salt water freezes slightly below the regular freezing point of water, anyway. I'm guessing it's a weird soupy sea of cold coldness.
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Geysers
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I love you tobia's
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Aren't there squids big enough to take down whales? No thanks bro, I'm good on land.
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Just spitballin' here, but couldn't the immense pressure change the properties of the "water" at that depth, allowing it to actually be colder than the normal freezing point at sea level and 1.0 atm but still remain in a liquid state? Plus, salt water freezes slightly below the regular freezing point of water, anyway. I'm guessing it's a weird soupy sea of cold coldness.
2 degrees Celsius in the Mariana trench.
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Aren't there squids big enough to take down whales? No thanks bro, I'm good on land.
I think now we all know what happened to the Malaysia flight after it crash landed
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@tobias :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Fwiw it only takes 15 minutes for hypothermia in like 70 degree water.
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Fwiw it only takes 15 minutes for hypothermia in like 70 degree water.
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I don't think that is true.
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:impatient:
Fwiw it only takes 15 minutes for hypothermia in like 70 degree water.
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I don't think that is true.
You know, I thought so too, but that's what it said in a book I'm reading. Maybe it was clarified by "hypothermic symptoms" and not hypothermia itself. If I can find the quote (search function in Kindle?) I'll post it.
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Also, here's the thing with the deep ocean. Assuming heat flow is linear (straight up or straight down), and maybe that's a really shitty assumption...
We know the Earth's mantle is super rough ridin' hot relative to the water temperature, and we know the surface temperature should average 60 or 70 degrees F worldwide...so I'd guess there is a steady temperature gradient from the depths to the surface. Apparently this isn't true and I wonder why.
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Also, here's the thing with the deep ocean. Assuming heat flow is linear (straight up or straight down), and maybe that's a really shitty assumption...
We know the Earth's mantle is super rough ridin' hot relative to the water temperature, and we know the surface temperature should average 60 or 70 degrees F worldwide...so I'd guess there is a steady temperature gradient from the depths to the surface. Apparently this isn't true and I wonder why.
crap b lurkin', yo.
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Also, here's the thing with the deep ocean. Assuming heat flow is linear (straight up or straight down), and maybe that's a really shitty assumption...
We know the Earth's mantle is super rough ridin' hot relative to the water temperature, and we know the surface temperature should average 60 or 70 degrees F worldwide...so I'd guess there is a steady temperature gradient from the depths to the surface. Apparently this isn't true and I wonder why.
and that is why i initally asked the question. i mean goethermal heat and the such yet the cool water would need to stay at the bottom less it rise. weird science going on in the abyss, that's for sure
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:impatient:Fwiw it only takes 15 minutes for hypothermia in like 70 degree water.
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I don't think that is true.
You know, I thought so too, but that's what it said in a book I'm reading. Maybe it was clarified by "hypothermic symptoms" and not hypothermia itself. If I can find the quote (search function in Kindle?) I'll post it.
Well I can't C&P from kindle, but I messed up the numbers..."just under 60 degrees = 15 minutes" before symptoms set in.
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Okay, everyone realizes how far away the core of the Earth is even from the bottom of the ocean, yes? The temperature of earth's core has zero effect on the temperature of the ocean.
Fun fact: If you can imagine Planet Earth to the same scale of an apple, the skin of the apple would be the same size as the top of the sky to the bottom of the ocean.
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Okay, everyone realizes how far away the core of the Earth is even from the bottom of the ocean, yes? The temperature of earth's core has zero effect on the temperature of the ocean.
Fun fact: If you can imagine Planet Earth to the same scale of an apple, the skin of the apple would be the same size as the top of the sky to the bottom of the ocean.
Hmmm... I'm gonna need a visual to help me process the words that you are saying.
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Okay, everyone realizes how far away the core of the Earth is even from the bottom of the ocean, yes? The temperature of earth's core has zero effect on the temperature of the ocean.
Fun fact: If you can imagine Planet Earth to the same scale of an apple, the skin of the apple would be the same size as the top of the sky to the bottom of the ocean.
I'm glad you set these fools straight
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i also know that you only have to drill a well a couple of hundred feet deep to get the geothermal energy required to keep your house/pool 70 degrees year round.
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i also know that you only have to drill a well a couple of hundred feet deep to get the geothermal energy required to keep your house/pool 70 degrees year round.
Smaller Apple or thinner skin?
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i also know that you only have to drill a well a couple of hundred feet deep to get the geothermal energy required to keep your house/pool 70 degrees year round.
Smaller Apple or thinner skin?
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pb&j
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i also know that you only have to drill a well a couple of hundred feet deep to get the geothermal energy required to keep your house/pool 70 degrees year round.
In South Africa, the ambient temperature of rock 2.4 miles below the surface is 131F, guys!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TauTona_Mine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TauTona_Mine)
The Mariana Trench is 6.3 mi deep, yet 36F, someone science this thread up, plz. tia.
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if i was to make an uneducated guess, the geothermal energy below the deeps is just enough to keep that huge mass of water from freezing but not enough to get it warm.
but to say it makes no difference is just silliness
oh, and i for one never mentiined the earth's core, that's like half way to china. learnt that in a bugs bunny episode.
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400lbs of lithium ion batteries should make some weird crap in about 1,000 years.
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fascinating
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it's mostly a whole lot of nothing
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it's mostly a whole lot of nothing
but do you know that?
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it's mostly a whole lot of nothing
but do you know that?
yes
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it's mostly a whole lot of nothing
but do you know that?
yes
i don't believe you. data is inconclusive
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i also know that you only have to drill a well a couple of hundred feet deep to get the geothermal energy required to keep your house/pool 70 degrees year round.
You really only have to get below the frost line. They still use a refrigeration cycle, though.
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Okay, everyone realizes how far away the core of the Earth is even from the bottom of the ocean, yes? The temperature of earth's core has zero effect on the temperature of the ocean.
Fun fact: If you can imagine Planet Earth to the same scale of an apple, the skin of the apple would be the same size as the top of the sky to the bottom of the ocean.
It must have some effect according to the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Anyway, from the NOAA:
Cold, salty water is dense and sinks to the bottom of the ocean while warm water is less dense and rises to the surface. Cold water has a higher density than warm water. Deep water gets colder at depth because cold, salty ocean water sinks to the bottom of the ocean basins.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lCNie2lIhk#t=332
I have to believe the cold ass brine flowing from antarctica would find it's way to the deepest parts of the oceans.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lCNie2lIhk#t=332
I have to believe the cold ass brine flowing from antarctica would find it's way to the deepest parts of the oceans.
that current is the equivalent of 500 million niagra falls combined
:horrorsurprise:
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So, just penis sharks then? Case closed.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lCNie2lIhk#t=332
I have to believe the cold ass brine flowing from antarctica would find it's way to the deepest parts of the oceans.
that current is the equivalent of 500 million niagra falls combined
:horrorsurprise:
The vid also says it takes over a thousand years before that crap resurfaces. :surprised:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lCNie2lIhk#t=332
I have to believe the cold ass brine flowing from antarctica would find it's way to the deepest parts of the oceans.
that current is the equivalent of 500 million niagra falls combined
:horrorsurprise:
The vid also says it takes over a thousand years before that crap resurfaces. :surprised:
incredible
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It's me mario
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Why do super deep fish have to look all extra horror-filmy?
No light?
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According to Spongebob, these live down there...
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It is very interesting though. Think of all the fish and creatures are yet to be discovered! :sdeek: :surprised:
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Okay, everyone realizes how far away the core of the Earth is even from the bottom of the ocean, yes? The temperature of earth's core has zero effect on the temperature of the ocean.
Fun fact: If you can imagine Planet Earth to the same scale of an apple, the skin of the apple would be the same size as the top of the sky to the bottom of the ocean.
It must have some effect according to the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Anyway, from the NOAA:
Cold, salty water is dense and sinks to the bottom of the ocean while warm water is less dense and rises to the surface. Cold water has a higher density than warm water. Deep water gets colder at depth because cold, salty ocean water sinks to the bottom of the ocean basins.
To a point yes, water's most important property for life anyways it that it's densest at 4 degrees Celsius (39 F). Water at freezing is actually less dense, and floats to the top, hence why lakes, oceans, rivers, really any body of water freezes from the top down (and why ice floats). This ability to stay above freezing and have the protection of ice at the top is probably the biggest reason why water is such a unique and necessary component of life. It's nearly impossible to freeze deep down because you would have to cool it so much, and the thicker the ice above it becomes, the better protected it is from actually getting colder. Add in pressure and geothermal activity, life is quite able to survive at 39F. Big reason why NASA and others think Europa, one of Jupiter's moon might have life, cause while icy on the outside, once you get below it, it's above freezing.
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Okay, everyone realizes how far away the core of the Earth is even from the bottom of the ocean, yes? The temperature of earth's core has zero effect on the temperature of the ocean.
Fun fact: If you can imagine Planet Earth to the same scale of an apple, the skin of the apple would be the same size as the top of the sky to the bottom of the ocean.
It must have some effect according to the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Anyway, from the NOAA:
Cold, salty water is dense and sinks to the bottom of the ocean while warm water is less dense and rises to the surface. Cold water has a higher density than warm water. Deep water gets colder at depth because cold, salty ocean water sinks to the bottom of the ocean basins.
To a point yes, water's most important property for life anyways it that it's densest at 4 degrees Celsius (39 F). Water at freezing is actually less dense, and floats to the top, hence why lakes, oceans, rivers, really any body of water freezes from the top down (and why ice floats). This ability to stay above freezing and have the protection of ice at the top is probably the biggest reason why water is such a unique and necessary component of life. It's nearly impossible to freeze deep down because you would have to cool it so much, and the thicker the ice above it becomes, the better protected it is from actually getting colder. Add in pressure and geothermal activity, life is quite able to survive at 39F. Big reason why NASA and others think Europa, one of Jupiter's moon might have life, cause while icy on the outside, once you get below it, it's above freezing.
pretty drunk but blew my mind
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So, about these razor-toothed penis sharks... They're pretty deep in the ocean, right?
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That knowledge mushroom stamp cfbandyman just slapped down on this blog was very interesting to my brain.
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Bacteria, holding it down...down there
http://ocean.si.edu/ocean-videos/hydrothermal-vent-creatures
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What temp is Vodka densest at, cause I love pulling it out of the fridge and it pours like oil. Yum
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What temp is Vodka densest at, cause I love pulling it out of the fridge and it pours like oil. Yum
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