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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: AtlantaWildcat on March 24, 2014, 01:13:57 PM
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K-State missed out on yet another Kansas recruit, this time not to the team to the east. Michigan State came in a took a recruit right out from underneath oscar Weber's nose.
Marvin Clark 6'7 PF from Wichita
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Probably not the right fit and didn't fit oscar's system.
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man if only we had a thread where we talk about recruits....
:buh-bye:
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Never heard of him. Probably sucks.
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lacks work ethic
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Not a team player.
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Izzo is going to eat him for breakfast.
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will spradling could drive the lane through that tooth gap. no thanks.
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maybe he wanted to win, and oscar could just promise him that we would try really hard. :dunno:
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Was afraid oscar would leave for MArquette
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To much adversity to land this kid.
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He'll not be competing at Michigan State. That much is certain.
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Maybe he got caught in the Great Twitter Block of 3/23/14?
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let's bulldoze the btf and build a newer shinier one. the current is obviously not working.
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We get this kid to courtstorm at fOOD, and oscar and Co. still can't land a local kid. sad
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let's bulldoze the btf and build a newer shinier one. the current is obviously not working.
oscar couldn't figure out which remote worked the touchscreen tv
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We get this kid to courtstorm at fOOD, and oscar and Co. still can't land a local kid. sad
Guys, this is a direct reflection on our pud conference. Just look at the tournament.
I mean, if we had other teams in our conf that could occasionally rise up and challenge oscar at home, it may have made a difference. This kid is probably just looking for more competition and ultimately more tournament success and we just can't offer that continually playing teams that prevent us from tuning up to the level needed to succeed in the the big dance.
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He chose to play for a team that lost to Nebraska at home, over oscar. :'bye cruel world:
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let's bulldoze the btf and build a newer shinier one. the current is obviously not working.
I am with the rowdy boyy here. The BTF had a nice run, #titletown and all, but you can't live in the past...
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Next one should be a three story replica of the big12 troph, imo.
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Next one should be a three story replica of the big12 troph, imo.
We already have a trophycam, just broadcast it on a daktronics.
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oscar told him he was going to marquette.
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Sorry we lost out, Mr Clark :frown:
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oscar thought this Marquez Clark wouldn't qualify.
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Was thinking about the big-time Kansas kids we've landed in the last couple decades...
In chronological order:
My gracious.
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Was thinking about the big-time Kansas kids we've landed in the last couple decades...
In chronological order:
My gracious.
It's not for lack of trying. We offered Victor to get Semi, and they pulled a fast one on us.
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we just had a very average local kid log roughly 3,600 minutes over the course of his career, having started nearly every game beginning with his sophomore year. i can't imagine why a kid like clark would want to come here. :flush:
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K-State missed out on yet another Kansas recruit, this time not to the team to the east. Michigan State came in a took a recruit right out from underneath oscar Weber's nose.
Marvin Clark 6'7 PF from Wichita
This is a double whammy.
#1 He's actually a Missouri kid who transferred to Sunrise and reclassified. Pretty strange situation.
#2 He played for Mokan so they control the recruiting.
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gE should organize a fund that we all put money into every year and annually dump on some AAU coach or someone's uncle.
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Was thinking about the big-time Kansas kids we've landed in the last couple decades...
In chronological order:
My gracious.
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You forgot Will Spradling.
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Focusing on Kansas kids is a losing strategy.
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Nino is from STL, only ended up at Leavenworth when a strip mall "basketball factory" school folded.
Manny Dies continues to be the Sunflower State product all other KS kids are measured by
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Focusing on Kansas kids is a losing strategy.
Who said anything about focusing on Kansas kids, there's like one or two a year? You don't think it is a problem that we can't land kids that play in this state?
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gE should organize a fund that we all put money into every year and annually dump on some AAU coach or someone's uncle.
Maybe Sunrises coach? Pretty sure MSU has three Sunrise kids in this class... (But I don't think any are actually from Kansas.)
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Focusing on Kansas kids is a losing strategy.
Who said anything about focusing on Kansas kids, there's like one or two a year? You don't think it is a problem that we can't land kids that play in this state?
Well when pretty much none are actually from Kansas then I don't see the problem.
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gE should organize a fund that we all put money into every year and annually dump on some AAU coach or someone's uncle.
Maybe Sunrises coach? Pretty sure MSU has three Sunrise kids in this class... (But I don't think any are actually from Kansas.)
Oh, I don't care if any of our players are from Kansas.
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gE should organize a fund that we all put money into every year and annually dump on some AAU coach or someone's uncle.
Maybe Sunrises coach? Pretty sure MSU has three Sunrise kids in this class... (But I don't think any are actually from Kansas.)
Oh, I don't care if any of our players are from Kansas.
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No one cares. People cares when a high end talent actually does come out of the state and he splits. Don't pretend we want a team of Kansas players. No one does. #tomasbury
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gE should organize a fund that we all put money into every year and annually dump on some AAU coach or someone's uncle.
Maybe Sunrises coach? Pretty sure MSU has three Sunrise kids in this class... (But I don't think any are actually from Kansas.)
Oh, I don't care if any of our players are from Kansas.
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No one cares. People cares when a high end talent actually does come out of the state and he splits. Don't pretend we want a team of Kansas players. No one does. #tomasbury
it's amazing that you had to explain this, shocked that three posters doesn't understand this basic point
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gE should organize a fund that we all put money into every year and annually dump on some AAU coach or someone's uncle.
Maybe Sunrises coach? Pretty sure MSU has three Sunrise kids in this class... (But I don't think any are actually from Kansas.)
Oh, I don't care if any of our players are from Kansas.
Sent from my KFTT using Tapatalk
No one cares. People cares when a high end talent actually does come out of the state and he splits. Don't pretend we want a team of Kansas players. No one does. #tomasbury
it's amazing that you had to explain this, shocked that three posters doesn't understand this basic point
How do you feel about the new WBB coach locking down the borders?
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gE should organize a fund that we all put money into every year and annually dump on some AAU coach or someone's uncle.
Maybe Sunrises coach? Pretty sure MSU has three Sunrise kids in this class... (But I don't think any are actually from Kansas.)
Oh, I don't care if any of our players are from Kansas.
Sent from my KFTT using Tapatalk
No one cares. People cares when a high end talent actually does come out of the state and he splits. Don't pretend we want a team of Kansas players. No one does. #tomasbury
it's amazing that you had to explain this, shocked that three posters doesn't understand this basic point
Rereading my posts, I am curious as to why it sounds like I don't understand that? I fully get locking down in state talent worth having.
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gE should organize a fund that we all put money into every year and annually dump on some AAU coach or someone's uncle.
Maybe Sunrises coach? Pretty sure MSU has three Sunrise kids in this class... (But I don't think any are actually from Kansas.)
Oh, I don't care if any of our players are from Kansas.
Sent from my KFTT using Tapatalk
No one cares. People cares when a high end talent actually does come out of the state and he splits. Don't pretend we want a team of Kansas players. No one does. #tomasbury
it's amazing that you had to explain this, shocked that three posters doesn't understand this basic point
Rereading my posts, I am curious as to why it sounds like I don't understand that? I fully get locking down in state talent worth having.
Splitting the state with Kansas makes getting good instate talent really difficult to land. Selling out of state kids has always seemed easier. :dunno:
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In the last 30 years I think 8 Kansans have gone to the NBA (Steve Henson, Gaylon Nickerson, Wayne Simien, Matt Freije, Earl Watson, Paul Shirley, Muarice Evans, and Danny Manning -- and Manning wasn't really from Kansas). There were some other Kansans from that era who shone at the college level: Taj Gray, Val Barnes, Kris Weems, B.J. Williams, Manny Dies, Perry Ellis, Cauley-Stein. Semi could be one of these guys, I'm sure. I'm also sure I'm missing 3-4 others.
That's about 20 high-quality players in 30 years. Only three went to KSU. Only four went to KU, and that's counting Manning, who transferred to Lawrence High as a package deal with this dad.
It would be very nice to just count on this level of player going to KSU, but surpisingly enough neither school really has the state "locked down."
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adrian griffin-east high, blue aces, blue aces!
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In the last 30 years I think 8 Kansans have gone to the NBA (Steve Henson, Gaylon Nickerson, Wayne Simien, Matt Freije, Earl Watson, Paul Shirley, Muarice Evans, and Danny Manning -- and Manning wasn't really from Kansas). There were some other Kansans from that era who shone at the college level: Taj Gray, Val Barnes, Kris Weems, B.J. Williams, Manny Dies, Perry Ellis, Cauley-Stein. Semi could be one of these guys, I'm sure. I'm also sure I'm missing 3-4 others.
That's about 20 high-quality players in 30 years. Only three went to KSU. Only four went to KU, and that's counting Manning, who transferred to Lawrence High as a package deal with this dad.
It would be very nice to just count on this level of player going to KSU, but surpisingly enough neither school really has the state "locked down."
I agree, the best pros that were really products of the state are Evans and Watson and maybe the Kansas guy with the 3rd best NBA career was Adrian Griffin out of Wichita East that managed to stick in the league for 6 or 7 years.
As much as I wish Ron Baker was a Cat it is very enlightening to see that KU has been a top 10 program for the last 25+ years and Simen's short run with Heat is the best instate NBA guy they have had.
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Would be pretty boss if Marshall got a new gig and Baker wanted to transfer because of it.
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In the last 30 years I think 8 Kansans have gone to the NBA (Steve Henson, Gaylon Nickerson, Wayne Simien, Matt Freije, Earl Watson, Paul Shirley, Muarice Evans, and Danny Manning -- and Manning wasn't really from Kansas). There were some other Kansans from that era who shone at the college level: Taj Gray, Val Barnes, Kris Weems, B.J. Williams, Manny Dies, Perry Ellis, Cauley-Stein. Semi could be one of these guys, I'm sure. I'm also sure I'm missing 3-4 others.
That's about 20 high-quality players in 30 years. Only three went to KSU. Only four went to KU, and that's counting Manning, who transferred to Lawrence High as a package deal with this dad.
It would be very nice to just count on this level of player going to KSU, but surpisingly enough neither school really has the state "locked down."
also, i would include johnny murdock and steve woodbury on your quality guy list. whooo, whooo whooo whooo whooo..south!
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Would be pretty boss if Marshall got a new gig and Baker wanted to transfer because of it.
810 was talking about how Baker will be great in the NBA. I didn't realize he had those intangibles. What's his size?
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Would be pretty boss if Marshall got a new gig and Baker wanted to transfer because of it.
didn't gE poster and Scott City native CAS inform us Baker grew up a KU fan? I imagine Bill could find a way to get Baker to Lawrence if that scenario plays out. Hell, it wouldn't be the worst idea for Baker to graduate from WSU early and do it anyway.
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Would be pretty boss if Marshall got a new gig and Baker wanted to transfer because of it.
810 was talking about how Baker will be great in the NBA. I didn't realize he had those intangibles. What's his size?
6'3" 215ish, he does not strike me as an NBA player at all.
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Would be pretty boss if Marshall got a new gig and Baker wanted to transfer because of it.
810 was talking about how Baker will be great in the NBA. I didn't realize he had those intangibles. What's his size?
ESPN has him at 6-3, 213.
I was impressed with how he was able to play point vs UK when Van Fleet was in foul trouble and he did a nice job of staying in front of which ever Harrison twin he was defending even if he had to just let them shoot over him after they put a shoulder in to him :curse:
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In the last 30 years I think 8 Kansans have gone to the NBA (Steve Henson, Gaylon Nickerson, Wayne Simien, Matt Freije, Earl Watson, Paul Shirley, Muarice Evans, and Danny Manning -- and Manning wasn't really from Kansas). There were some other Kansans from that era who shone at the college level: Taj Gray, Val Barnes, Kris Weems, B.J. Williams, Manny Dies, Perry Ellis, Cauley-Stein. Semi could be one of these guys, I'm sure. I'm also sure I'm missing 3-4 others.
That's about 20 high-quality players in 30 years. Only three went to KSU. Only four went to KU, and that's counting Manning, who transferred to Lawrence High as a package deal with this dad.
It would be very nice to just count on this level of player going to KSU, but surpisingly enough neither school really has the state "locked down."
also, i would include johnny murdock and steve woodbury on your quality guy list. whooo, whooo whooo whooo whooo..south!
Murdock, Woodbury and Adrian Griffin should all have been metioned by me. I should start running all my posts by RowdyBoi before putting them up on this blog.
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In the last 30 years I think 8 Kansans have gone to the NBA (Steve Henson, Gaylon Nickerson, Wayne Simien, Matt Freije, Earl Watson, Paul Shirley, Muarice Evans, and Danny Manning -- and Manning wasn't really from Kansas). There were some other Kansans from that era who shone at the college level: Taj Gray, Val Barnes, Kris Weems, B.J. Williams, Manny Dies, Perry Ellis, Cauley-Stein. Semi could be one of these guys, I'm sure. I'm also sure I'm missing 3-4 others.
That's about 20 high-quality players in 30 years. Only three went to KSU. Only four went to KU, and that's counting Manning, who transferred to Lawrence High as a package deal with this dad.
It would be very nice to just count on this level of player going to KSU, but surpisingly enough neither school really has the state "locked down."
also, i would include johnny murdock and steve woodbury on your quality guy list. whooo, whooo whooo whooo whooo..south!
Murdock, Woodbury and Adrian Griffin should all have been metioned by me. I should start running all my posts by RowdyBoi before putting them up on this blog.
when we started this blog, we all drew different sports and such out of a hat that we were required to learn all about so that it would be a well rounded and well moderated blog site. i drew early nineties wichita city league basketball.
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I seem to recall a certain coach in his opening press conference claiming something about locking down the KS talent. Well, that seems to be going well. That said, I cannot blame anyone for choosing to play for Coach Izzo.
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Would be pretty boss if Marshall got a new gig and Baker wanted to transfer because of it.
810 was talking about how Baker will be great in the NBA. I didn't realize he had those intangibles. What's his size?
6'3" 215ish, he does not strike me as an NBA player at all.
Nope, not at all. He has no position. 810 knows the NBA as well as I know mycenaean pottery
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6'3 Baker and 6'2 Foster won't be shooting guards in Nba. Baker can't play the Point. Right now Foster isn't NBA PG material either.
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6'3 Baker and 6'2 Foster won't be shooting guards in Nba. Baker can't play the Point. Right now Foster isn't NBA PG material either.
Foster is a much better athlete than Baker. 6'2" doesn't mean you have to be a one in the league. Starters? Yes. But neither project that anyway. I will say Bakers athleticism was exposed against Kentucky. I felt bad for the kid when he attacked the goal for a surefire dunk (against mvc talent) only to be fiercly denied by Cauley.
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It seems to me the best one or two players in the state are generally pretty good college players and worth adding if they fill a need.
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It seems to me the best one or two players in the state are generally pretty good college players and worth adding if they fill a need.
Agreed, but we can't seem to ever land these guys.
As for Foster and Baker in the NBA. Yea right guys, come on. It does in fact matter if you are 6'2", cannot play the point or defend the point; Baker and Foster fall squarely into that category. Let's stick to mycenaean pottery and the like.