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Title: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: AtlantaWildcat on March 24, 2014, 01:13:57 PM
K-State missed out on yet another Kansas recruit, this time not to the team to the east. Michigan State came in a took a recruit right out from underneath oscar Weber's nose.

Marvin Clark 6'7 PF from Wichita
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 24, 2014, 01:15:45 PM
Probably not the right fit and didn't fit oscar's system. 
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: kslim on March 24, 2014, 01:22:06 PM
man if only we had a thread where we talk about recruits....

 :buh-bye:
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: sunny_cat on March 24, 2014, 01:23:23 PM
Never heard of him. Probably sucks.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: 'taterblast on March 24, 2014, 01:30:16 PM
lacks work ethic
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 24, 2014, 01:31:26 PM
Not a team player.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 24, 2014, 01:33:26 PM
Izzo is going to eat him for breakfast.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: steve dave on March 24, 2014, 01:35:48 PM
will spradling could drive the lane through that tooth gap. no thanks.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: meow meow on March 24, 2014, 01:37:08 PM
maybe he wanted to win, and oscar could just promise him that we would try really hard.  :dunno:
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 24, 2014, 01:38:10 PM
Was afraid oscar would leave for MArquette
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Gooch on March 24, 2014, 01:38:13 PM
To much adversity to land this kid.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 24, 2014, 01:38:27 PM
He'll not be competing at Michigan State. That much is certain.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 24, 2014, 01:42:56 PM
Maybe he got caught in the Great Twitter Block of 3/23/14?
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 24, 2014, 01:46:09 PM
let's bulldoze the btf and build a newer shinier one. the current is obviously not working.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: meow meow on March 24, 2014, 01:46:29 PM
We get this kid to courtstorm at fOOD, and oscar and Co. still can't land a local kid.  sad
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: meow meow on March 24, 2014, 01:47:23 PM
let's bulldoze the btf and build a newer shinier one. the current is obviously not working.

oscar couldn't figure out which remote worked the touchscreen tv
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: CNS on March 24, 2014, 01:50:29 PM
We get this kid to courtstorm at fOOD, and oscar and Co. still can't land a local kid.  sad

Guys, this is a direct reflection on our pud conference. Just look at the tournament.

I mean, if we had other teams in our conf that could occasionally rise up and challenge oscar at home, it may have made a difference.  This kid is probably just looking for more competition and ultimately more tournament success and we just can't offer that continually playing teams that prevent us from tuning up to the level needed to succeed in the the big dance.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: meow meow on March 24, 2014, 01:52:05 PM
He chose to play for a team that lost to Nebraska at home, over oscar.  :'bye cruel world:
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 24, 2014, 01:56:37 PM
let's bulldoze the btf and build a newer shinier one. the current is obviously not working.

I am with the rowdy boyy here.  The BTF had a nice run, #titletown and all, but you can't live in the past...
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: CNS on March 24, 2014, 01:57:32 PM
Next one should be a three story replica of the big12 troph, imo.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Trim on March 24, 2014, 02:02:08 PM
Next one should be a three story replica of the big12 troph, imo.

We already have a trophycam, just broadcast it on a daktronics.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Cire on March 24, 2014, 03:43:48 PM
oscar told him he was going to marquette.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 24, 2014, 04:00:54 PM
Sorry we lost out, Mr Clark :frown:
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 24, 2014, 05:00:41 PM
oscar thought this Marquez Clark wouldn't qualify.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on March 24, 2014, 06:45:40 PM
Was thinking about the big-time Kansas kids we've landed in the last couple decades...

In chronological order:
My gracious.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Pete on March 24, 2014, 06:53:52 PM

Was thinking about the big-time Kansas kids we've landed in the last couple decades...

In chronological order:
  • Nino Williams (3/4 star)
My gracious.

It's not for lack of trying.  We offered Victor to get Semi, and they pulled a fast one on us.

Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: pissclams on March 24, 2014, 07:18:18 PM
we just had a very average local kid log roughly 3,600 minutes over the course of his career, having started nearly every game beginning with his sophomore year.  i can't imagine why a kid like clark would want to come here.  :flush:
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: b1gern on March 26, 2014, 03:41:13 PM
K-State missed out on yet another Kansas recruit, this time not to the team to the east. Michigan State came in a took a recruit right out from underneath oscar Weber's nose.

Marvin Clark 6'7 PF from Wichita

This is a double whammy.
#1  He's actually a Missouri kid who transferred to Sunrise and reclassified.  Pretty strange situation.
#2  He played for Mokan so they  control the recruiting.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2014, 03:48:28 PM
gE should organize a fund that we all put money into every year and annually dump on some AAU coach or someone's uncle.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 26, 2014, 04:40:18 PM
Was thinking about the big-time Kansas kids we've landed in the last couple decades...

In chronological order:
  • Nino Williams (3/4 star)
My gracious.

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You forgot Will Spradling.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 26, 2014, 05:02:02 PM
Focusing on Kansas kids is a losing strategy. 
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Skipper44 on March 26, 2014, 05:08:26 PM
Nino is from STL, only ended up at Leavenworth when a strip mall "basketball factory" school folded. 

Manny Dies continues to be the Sunflower State product all other KS kids are measured by
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2014, 05:39:08 PM
Focusing on Kansas kids is a losing strategy.

Who said anything about focusing on Kansas kids, there's like one or two a year? You don't think it is a problem that we can't land kids that play in this state?
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: jtksu on March 26, 2014, 06:03:26 PM
gE should organize a fund that we all put money into every year and annually dump on some AAU coach or someone's uncle.

Maybe Sunrises coach?   Pretty sure MSU has three Sunrise kids in this class... (But I don't think any are actually from Kansas.)
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: FranklyFrankYou on March 26, 2014, 06:29:00 PM
Focusing on Kansas kids is a losing strategy.

Who said anything about focusing on Kansas kids, there's like one or two a year? You don't think it is a problem that we can't land kids that play in this state?
Well when pretty much none are actually from Kansas then I don't see the problem.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2014, 07:23:53 PM
gE should organize a fund that we all put money into every year and annually dump on some AAU coach or someone's uncle.

Maybe Sunrises coach?   Pretty sure MSU has three Sunrise kids in this class... (But I don't think any are actually from Kansas.)
Oh, I don't care if any of our players are from Kansas. 

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Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 26, 2014, 07:42:22 PM
gE should organize a fund that we all put money into every year and annually dump on some AAU coach or someone's uncle.

Maybe Sunrises coach?   Pretty sure MSU has three Sunrise kids in this class... (But I don't think any are actually from Kansas.)
Oh, I don't care if any of our players are from Kansas. 

Sent from my KFTT using Tapatalk

No one cares.  People cares when a high end talent actually does come out of the state and he splits.  Don't pretend we want a team of Kansas players.  No one does.  #tomasbury
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2014, 11:01:03 PM
gE should organize a fund that we all put money into every year and annually dump on some AAU coach or someone's uncle.

Maybe Sunrises coach?   Pretty sure MSU has three Sunrise kids in this class... (But I don't think any are actually from Kansas.)
Oh, I don't care if any of our players are from Kansas. 

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No one cares.  People cares when a high end talent actually does come out of the state and he splits.  Don't pretend we want a team of Kansas players.  No one does.  #tomasbury

it's amazing that you had to explain this, shocked that three posters doesn't understand this basic point
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: jtksu on March 27, 2014, 04:51:04 AM
gE should organize a fund that we all put money into every year and annually dump on some AAU coach or someone's uncle.

Maybe Sunrises coach?   Pretty sure MSU has three Sunrise kids in this class... (But I don't think any are actually from Kansas.)
Oh, I don't care if any of our players are from Kansas. 

Sent from my KFTT using Tapatalk

No one cares.  People cares when a high end talent actually does come out of the state and he splits.  Don't pretend we want a team of Kansas players.  No one does.  #tomasbury

it's amazing that you had to explain this, shocked that three posters doesn't understand this basic point

How do you feel about the new WBB coach  locking down the borders?   
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: CNS on March 27, 2014, 09:32:56 AM
gE should organize a fund that we all put money into every year and annually dump on some AAU coach or someone's uncle.

Maybe Sunrises coach?   Pretty sure MSU has three Sunrise kids in this class... (But I don't think any are actually from Kansas.)
Oh, I don't care if any of our players are from Kansas. 

Sent from my KFTT using Tapatalk

No one cares.  People cares when a high end talent actually does come out of the state and he splits.  Don't pretend we want a team of Kansas players.  No one does.  #tomasbury

it's amazing that you had to explain this, shocked that three posters doesn't understand this basic point

Rereading my posts, I am curious as to why it sounds like I don't understand that?  I fully get locking down in state talent worth having.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 27, 2014, 09:59:44 AM
gE should organize a fund that we all put money into every year and annually dump on some AAU coach or someone's uncle.

Maybe Sunrises coach?   Pretty sure MSU has three Sunrise kids in this class... (But I don't think any are actually from Kansas.)
Oh, I don't care if any of our players are from Kansas. 

Sent from my KFTT using Tapatalk

No one cares.  People cares when a high end talent actually does come out of the state and he splits.  Don't pretend we want a team of Kansas players.  No one does.  #tomasbury

it's amazing that you had to explain this, shocked that three posters doesn't understand this basic point

Rereading my posts, I am curious as to why it sounds like I don't understand that?  I fully get locking down in state talent worth having.
Splitting the state with Kansas makes getting good instate talent really difficult to land. Selling out of state kids has always seemed easier.  :dunno:
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on March 27, 2014, 11:02:04 AM
In the last 30 years I think 8 Kansans have gone to the NBA (Steve Henson, Gaylon Nickerson, Wayne Simien, Matt Freije, Earl Watson, Paul Shirley, Muarice Evans, and Danny Manning -- and Manning wasn't really from Kansas).  There were some other Kansans from that era who shone at the college level: Taj Gray, Val Barnes, Kris Weems, B.J. Williams, Manny Dies, Perry Ellis, Cauley-Stein.  Semi could be one of these guys, I'm sure.  I'm also sure I'm missing 3-4 others.

That's about 20 high-quality players in 30 years.  Only three went to KSU.  Only four went to KU, and that's counting Manning, who transferred to Lawrence High as a package deal with this dad.

It would be very nice to just count on this level of player going to KSU, but surpisingly enough neither school really has the state "locked down."
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 27, 2014, 11:13:13 AM
adrian griffin-east high, blue aces, blue aces!
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Skipper44 on March 27, 2014, 11:22:27 AM
In the last 30 years I think 8 Kansans have gone to the NBA (Steve Henson, Gaylon Nickerson, Wayne Simien, Matt Freije, Earl Watson, Paul Shirley, Muarice Evans, and Danny Manning -- and Manning wasn't really from Kansas).  There were some other Kansans from that era who shone at the college level: Taj Gray, Val Barnes, Kris Weems, B.J. Williams, Manny Dies, Perry Ellis, Cauley-Stein.  Semi could be one of these guys, I'm sure.  I'm also sure I'm missing 3-4 others.

That's about 20 high-quality players in 30 years.  Only three went to KSU.  Only four went to KU, and that's counting Manning, who transferred to Lawrence High as a package deal with this dad.

It would be very nice to just count on this level of player going to KSU, but surpisingly enough neither school really has the state "locked down."
I agree, the best pros that were really products of the state are Evans and Watson and maybe the Kansas guy with the 3rd best NBA career was Adrian Griffin out of Wichita East that managed to stick in the league for 6 or 7 years. 

As much as I wish Ron Baker was a Cat it is very enlightening to see that KU has been a top 10 program for the last 25+ years and Simen's short run with Heat is the best instate NBA guy they have had.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: CNS on March 27, 2014, 11:23:33 AM
Would be pretty boss if Marshall got a new gig and Baker wanted to transfer because of it. 
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 27, 2014, 11:30:34 AM
In the last 30 years I think 8 Kansans have gone to the NBA (Steve Henson, Gaylon Nickerson, Wayne Simien, Matt Freije, Earl Watson, Paul Shirley, Muarice Evans, and Danny Manning -- and Manning wasn't really from Kansas).  There were some other Kansans from that era who shone at the college level: Taj Gray, Val Barnes, Kris Weems, B.J. Williams, Manny Dies, Perry Ellis, Cauley-Stein.  Semi could be one of these guys, I'm sure.  I'm also sure I'm missing 3-4 others.

That's about 20 high-quality players in 30 years.  Only three went to KSU.  Only four went to KU, and that's counting Manning, who transferred to Lawrence High as a package deal with this dad.

It would be very nice to just count on this level of player going to KSU, but surpisingly enough neither school really has the state "locked down."

also, i would include johnny murdock and steve woodbury on your quality guy list. whooo, whooo whooo whooo whooo..south!
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 27, 2014, 11:35:07 AM
Would be pretty boss if Marshall got a new gig and Baker wanted to transfer because of it.
810 was talking about how Baker will be great in the NBA. I didn't realize he had those intangibles. What's his size?
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Skipper44 on March 27, 2014, 11:46:05 AM
Would be pretty boss if Marshall got a new gig and Baker wanted to transfer because of it.
didn't gE poster and Scott City native CAS inform us Baker grew up a KU fan?  I imagine Bill could find a way to get Baker to Lawrence if that scenario plays out.  Hell, it wouldn't be the worst idea for Baker to graduate from WSU early and do it anyway.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Fedor on March 27, 2014, 11:46:30 AM
Would be pretty boss if Marshall got a new gig and Baker wanted to transfer because of it.
810 was talking about how Baker will be great in the NBA. I didn't realize he had those intangibles. What's his size?
6'3" 215ish, he does not strike me as an NBA player at all.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Skipper44 on March 27, 2014, 11:48:41 AM
Would be pretty boss if Marshall got a new gig and Baker wanted to transfer because of it.
810 was talking about how Baker will be great in the NBA. I didn't realize he had those intangibles. What's his size?
ESPN has him at 6-3, 213. 

I was impressed with how he was able to play point vs UK when Van Fleet was in foul trouble and he did a nice job of staying in front of which ever Harrison twin he was defending even if he had to just let them shoot over him after they put a shoulder in to him  :curse:
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on March 27, 2014, 11:56:41 AM
In the last 30 years I think 8 Kansans have gone to the NBA (Steve Henson, Gaylon Nickerson, Wayne Simien, Matt Freije, Earl Watson, Paul Shirley, Muarice Evans, and Danny Manning -- and Manning wasn't really from Kansas).  There were some other Kansans from that era who shone at the college level: Taj Gray, Val Barnes, Kris Weems, B.J. Williams, Manny Dies, Perry Ellis, Cauley-Stein.  Semi could be one of these guys, I'm sure.  I'm also sure I'm missing 3-4 others.

That's about 20 high-quality players in 30 years.  Only three went to KSU.  Only four went to KU, and that's counting Manning, who transferred to Lawrence High as a package deal with this dad.

It would be very nice to just count on this level of player going to KSU, but surpisingly enough neither school really has the state "locked down."

also, i would include johnny murdock and steve woodbury on your quality guy list. whooo, whooo whooo whooo whooo..south!

Murdock, Woodbury and Adrian Griffin should all have been metioned by me.  I should start running all my posts by RowdyBoi before putting them up on this blog.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 27, 2014, 12:46:12 PM
In the last 30 years I think 8 Kansans have gone to the NBA (Steve Henson, Gaylon Nickerson, Wayne Simien, Matt Freije, Earl Watson, Paul Shirley, Muarice Evans, and Danny Manning -- and Manning wasn't really from Kansas).  There were some other Kansans from that era who shone at the college level: Taj Gray, Val Barnes, Kris Weems, B.J. Williams, Manny Dies, Perry Ellis, Cauley-Stein.  Semi could be one of these guys, I'm sure.  I'm also sure I'm missing 3-4 others.

That's about 20 high-quality players in 30 years.  Only three went to KSU.  Only four went to KU, and that's counting Manning, who transferred to Lawrence High as a package deal with this dad.

It would be very nice to just count on this level of player going to KSU, but surpisingly enough neither school really has the state "locked down."

also, i would include johnny murdock and steve woodbury on your quality guy list. whooo, whooo whooo whooo whooo..south!

Murdock, Woodbury and Adrian Griffin should all have been metioned by me.  I should start running all my posts by RowdyBoi before putting them up on this blog.

when we started this blog, we all drew different sports and such out of a hat that we were required to learn all about so that it would be a well rounded and well moderated blog site. i drew early nineties wichita city league basketball.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on March 27, 2014, 01:21:45 PM
I seem to recall a certain coach in his opening press conference claiming something about locking down the KS talent. Well, that seems to be going well. That said, I cannot blame anyone for choosing to play for Coach Izzo.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: MakeItRain on March 29, 2014, 12:33:27 AM
Would be pretty boss if Marshall got a new gig and Baker wanted to transfer because of it.
810 was talking about how Baker will be great in the NBA. I didn't realize he had those intangibles. What's his size?
6'3" 215ish, he does not strike me as an NBA player at all.

Nope, not at all. He has no position. 810 knows the NBA as well as I know mycenaean pottery
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 29, 2014, 12:43:38 AM
6'3 Baker and 6'2 Foster won't be shooting guards in Nba. Baker can't play the Point.  Right now Foster isn't NBA PG material either.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: jtksu on March 29, 2014, 02:38:08 AM
6'3 Baker and 6'2 Foster won't be shooting guards in Nba. Baker can't play the Point.  Right now Foster isn't NBA PG material either.

Foster is a much better athlete than Baker.   6'2" doesn't mean you have to be a one in the league.  Starters?  Yes.   But neither project that anyway.   I will say Bakers athleticism was exposed against Kentucky.   I felt bad for the kid when he attacked the goal for a surefire dunk (against mvc talent) only to be fiercly denied by Cauley.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: EMAWzified on March 29, 2014, 10:40:41 AM
It seems to me the best one or two players in the state are generally pretty good college players and worth adding if they fill a need.
Title: Re: K-State Marvin Clark
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on March 29, 2014, 12:34:52 PM
It seems to me the best one or two players in the state are generally pretty good college players and worth adding if they fill a need.

Agreed, but we can't seem to ever land these guys.

As for Foster and Baker in the NBA. Yea right guys, come on. It does in fact matter if you are 6'2", cannot play the point or defend the point; Baker and Foster fall squarely into that category. Let's stick to mycenaean pottery and the like.