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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: sys on March 23, 2014, 01:41:29 PM
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be nice if isu or baylor could advance.
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Hard to tell.
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A bunch of pretty good teams. No great teams.
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tournament performance is no indicator of conference strength
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ku sucked without embiid. isu sucks without niang. baylor sucks.
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tournament performance is no indicator of conference strength
well, it's not a great indicator. but it's a lot better than how the teams did playing 18 games against each other.
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sys, i could have told you this a long time ago
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sys, i could have told you this a long time ago
i wouldn't have listened.
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ku sucked without embiid. isu sucks without niang. baylor sucks.
Baylor does not suck.
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sys, i could have told you this a long time ago
i wouldn't have listened.
yeah, well thats your mistake. i may be controversial but i'm never wrong.
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tournament performance is no indicator of conference strength
but it's a good indicator of coaching prowess?
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tournament performance is no indicator of conference strength
but it's a good indicator of coaching prowess?
To an extent, of course it does. Don't be so obtuse. Does your conference recruit for you, train your players, or determine what you run?
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tournament performance is no indicator of conference strength
but it's a good indicator of coaching prowess?
Does this mean Coach K can't coach anymore because he's lost his first game 2 of the last 3 years to 14 and 15 seeds? Tourney is all about matchups, getting hot at the right time of the year, or riding some stud player like Kemba.
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tournament performance is no indicator of conference strength
but it's a good indicator of coaching prowess?
Does this mean Coach K can't coach anymore because he's lost his first game 2 of the last 3 years to 14 and 15 seeds? Tourney is all about matchups, getting hot at the right time of the year, or riding some stud player like Kemba.
michigancat isn't saying that, he's taking a completely different conversation we were having about oscar last night and is intentionally misapplying it here
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tournament performance is no indicator of conference strength
but it's a good indicator of coaching prowess?
To an extent, of course it does. Don't be so obtuse. Does your conference recruit for you, train your players, or determine what you run?
I just don't think you can have it both ways. It's a poor indicator for both conference strength and coaching ability.
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it's a much better indicator of conference strength.
big 12 teams will play a minimum of 11 tournament games against quality competition. that's probably about 1/2 to 1/4 as many games against tournament-level teams as were played in the non-conference season. so, it's not insubstantial.
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tournament performance is no indicator of conference strength
but it's a good indicator of coaching prowess?
To an extent, of course it does. Don't be so obtuse. Does your conference recruit for you, train your players, or determine what you run?
I just don't think you can have it both ways. It's a poor indicator for both conference strength and coaching ability.
yeah, or its a good indicator for both.
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tournament performance is no indicator of conference strength
but it's a good indicator of coaching prowess?
To an extent, of course it does. Don't be so obtuse. Does your conference recruit for you, train your players, or determine what you run?
I just don't think you can have it both ways. It's a poor indicator for both conference strength and coaching ability.
If you are equating this to our conversation you shouldn't, because I never said that oscar is a bad coach because his recent tournament record is terrible. As a matter of fact I don't think I have ever made a post that references oscar's coaching ability as bad. Good coaches get fired a lot.
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tournament performance is no indicator of conference strength
but it's a good indicator of coaching prowess?
To an extent, of course it does. Don't be so obtuse. Does your conference recruit for you, train your players, or determine what you run?
I just don't think you can have it both ways. It's a poor indicator for both conference strength and coaching ability.
If you are equating this to our conversation you shouldn't, because I never said that oscar is a bad coach because his recent tournament record is terrible. As a matter of fact I don't think I have ever made a post that references oscar's coaching ability as bad. Good coaches get fired a lot.
do you think it's smart to fire good coaches?
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tournament performance is no indicator of conference strength
but it's a good indicator of coaching prowess?
To an extent, of course it does. Don't be so obtuse. Does your conference recruit for you, train your players, or determine what you run?
I just don't think you can have it both ways. It's a poor indicator for both conference strength and coaching ability.
If you are equating this to our conversation you shouldn't, because I never said that oscar is a bad coach because his recent tournament record is terrible. As a matter of fact I don't think I have ever made a post that references oscar's coaching ability as bad. Good coaches get fired a lot.
do you think it's smart to fire good coaches?
Depends on the circumstance, it was smart for Illinois to do it
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tournament performance is no indicator of conference strength
but it's a good indicator of coaching prowess?
To an extent, of course it does. Don't be so obtuse. Does your conference recruit for you, train your players, or determine what you run?
I just don't think you can have it both ways. It's a poor indicator for both conference strength and coaching ability.
If you are equating this to our conversation you shouldn't, because I never said that oscar is a bad coach because his recent tournament record is terrible. As a matter of fact I don't think I have ever made a post that references oscar's coaching ability as bad. Good coaches get fired a lot.
do you think it's smart to fire good coaches?
Depends on the circumstance, it was smart for Illinois to do it
You could argue that oscar isn't a good coach and deserved to be fired without considering his tournament record.
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This conference is woefully bad.
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You could argue that oscar isn't a good coach and deserved to be fired without considering his tournament record.
You could but that would involve us having involving elements from a conversation that we aren't currently having.
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Drew, you're our only hope :lightsaber:
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The A-10, ACC, BE & MWC sucked worse. Also, we were saddled with a lot of 5 - 9 seeds which would explain few S 16 finishers.
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the SEC is going to get 3 of 3 teams into the sweet 16, we might get one. they're better in football and basketball.
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we have a sweet 16 team u guys!
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I was pretty impressed with ISU. Skating without Niang they still won and got into the 16. I wish the Flood Aggies luck the rest of the way.
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Dumb question, but why was KU not better? Even minus Embiid they have great size and talent. Was it PG, shooting? That loss to Stanford was embarrassing.
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Dumb question, but why was KU not better? Even minus Embiid they have great size and talent. Was it PG, shooting? That loss to Stanford was embarrassing.
Stanford's length really bothered everyone but Black and Selden and Wiggins pretty terrible
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hoiball and drewball have redeemed us all.
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ku sucked without embiid. isu sucks without niang. baylor sucks.
Baylor does not suck.
:gocho:
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ku sucked without embiid. isu sucks without niang. baylor sucks.
ISU and Baylor won, tho
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ku sucked without embiid. isu sucks without niang. baylor sucks.
ISU and Baylor won, tho
But we suck, remember?
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The fact that ku wins this conference every year show how bad it is. Both are over-rated.
And to OK-Clone... Happy for you guys. It's nice to see you finally have a modicum of success at something. Too bad about Niang.
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sys, i could have told you this a long time ago
i wouldn't have listened.
yeah, well thats your mistake. i may be controversial but i'm never wrong.
You're wrong if you believe that you're controversial.
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I think the lack of size in this league is partly to blame. Only KU, Baylor and Texas have the kind of size that can exploit teams inside. The small ball OU, KSU, OSU and ISU play is easier for lower seeds to matchup with - when you can depend on dominating the boards you are more susceptible to getting upset like OU this year and KSU last year.
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The two teams that met in the Big 12 final both made the Sweet 16. The two teams that lost in the semis both made the round of 32. Everyone else who lost in the quarters lost in the round of 64. According to this pattern, Hoiball will make the elite 8 while Drewball will lose in the Sweet 16.
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The fact that ku wins this conference every year show how bad it is. Both are over-rated.
And to OK-Clone... Happy for you guys. It's nice to see you finally have a modicum of success at something. Too bad about Niang.
KU has a national title, a title game, and two more elite 8s in their 10 yr conference run. They aren't overrated.
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