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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: scottwildcat on March 21, 2014, 08:52:57 PM
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We just got T'd up for dunking in pregame
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Why is that a rule?
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Are you serious?
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Wow. Whats the protocol on that?
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:facepalm:
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Game over.
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Kentucky will start the game by shooting two free throws. Not sure what NCAA rule is on if there is a jump ball next or it Kentucky just gets the ball and the possession arrow points to KSU, though.
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JFC. Come on oscar!
Who in the eff is this Brian guy?
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What the eff guys
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eff IT BREAK ALL THE RULES
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rough ridin' moron jackass walkon, peace of crap. what a goddamned moron
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Kentucky Basketball ?@KentuckyMBB 31s
Kansas State was accessed a Class B technical foul during warm-ups. UK will shoot two free throws prior to the jump ball.
accessed?
SECSEC
goEMAW btw!
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Is getting a tech before a bball game the equivalent to calling a timeout for the very first play of the football season vs. NDSU?
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Kentucky Basketball ?@KentuckyMBB 31s
Kansas State was accessed a Class B technical foul during warm-ups. UK will shoot two free throws prior to the jump ball.
accessed?
SECSEC
goEMAW btw!
Go down south for some higher education :Ugh:
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Hmm was there a prop bet on pre game technical fouls? I suspect Brian is on the take.
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Hmm was there a prop bet on pre game technical fouls? I suspect Brian is on the take.
Thats why he was laughing. Just made 6k
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Hmm was there a prop bet on pre game technical fouls? I suspect Brian is on the take.
Thats why he was laughing. Just made 6k
Methinks he engineered quite the profit.
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But yeah, that's on oscar. My guess is that it's a stupid rule, but also an extremely easy rule to follow.
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But yeah, that's on oscar. My guess is that it's a stupid rule, but also an extremely easy rule to follow.
It was complete bullshit. I've seen pregame dunking hundreds of times. The refs were just letting everyone know that they were going to be sucking UK off from the get go.
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It ain't gonna matter...
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he didn't even hang on the rim
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Apparently the rule is you cant dunk when the clock is below 20:00. Rhodeler dunked at 19:58
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I could jump up and break the rim down and on my best day get a tennis ball down. I could have gotten this foul not long ago. hits home.
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I could jump up and break the rim down and on my best day get a tennis ball down. I could have gotten this foul not long ago. hits home.
SD brag. :cool:
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whole lotta dumb in here
how in the hell was that oscar's fault, that rule is in place on every level of sanctioned basketball
also there isn't a damn rule about 20 minutes, you can dunk until the officials enter the floor at that point you can't dunk anymore, that jackass knew the rule
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whole lotta dumb in here
how in the hell was that oscar's fault, that rule is in place on every level of sanctioned basketball
also there isn't a damn rule about 20 minutes, you can dunk until the officials enter the floor at that point you can't dunk anymore, that jackass knew the rule
Maybe they werent allowed to tunnel dance so this was the only way for them to get hype
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the question we should be asking is why is the 6'4"walk on dunking in warm-up when none of the studs including about 5 NBA draft picks not dunking
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Apparently the rule is you cant dunk when the clock is below 20:00. Rhodeler dunked at 19:58
is that serious?
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whole lotta dumb in here
how in the hell was that oscar's fault, that rule is in place on every level of sanctioned basketball
also there isn't a damn rule about 20 minutes, you can dunk until the officials enter the floor at that point you can't dunk anymore, that jackass knew the rule
perhaps roehlder never played organized basketball until now? did we win a contest to walk on the team maybe?
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Apparently the rule is you cant dunk when the clock is below 20:00. Rhodeler dunked at 19:58
is that serious?
Saw it on twitter. B- source. Must be true
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I never ever bitch about refs but this was the worst game Ive ever seen.
:Crybaby:
hopefully some dlewtucky puts this post in a thread
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whole lotta dumb in here
how in the hell was that oscar's fault, that rule is in place on every level of sanctioned basketball
also there isn't a damn rule about 20 minutes, you can dunk until the officials enter the floor at that point you can't dunk anymore, that jackass knew the rule
Why are you calling Vulture a jackass?
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Because the T?
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whole lotta dumb in here
how in the hell was that oscar's fault, that rule is in place on every level of sanctioned basketball
also there isn't a damn rule about 20 minutes, you can dunk until the officials enter the floor at that point you can't dunk anymore, that jackass knew the rule
Why are you calling Vulture a jackass?
probably because everyone knows you aren't suppose to dunk..
jackass
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Fwiw Vulture is a prick in real life.
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Fwiw Vulture is a prick in real life.
sub par LB genes as well
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whole lotta dumb in here
how in the hell was that oscar's fault, that rule is in place on every level of sanctioned basketball
also there isn't a damn rule about 20 minutes, you can dunk until the officials enter the floor at that point you can't dunk anymore, that jackass knew the rule
Why are you calling Vulture a jackass?
probably because everyone knows you aren't suppose to dunk..
jackass
Guess I'm a jackass then. Pretty sure I've seen that kind of "dunk" many times before basketball games and never seen a T called.
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whole lotta dumb in here
how in the hell was that oscar's fault, that rule is in place on every level of sanctioned basketball
also there isn't a damn rule about 20 minutes, you can dunk until the officials enter the floor at that point you can't dunk anymore, that jackass knew the rule
Why are you calling Vulture a jackass?
probably because everyone knows you aren't suppose to dunk..
jackass
Guess I'm a jackass then.
confirmed
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Calling other people jackasses makes me feel better about myself.
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Calling other people jackasses makes me feel better about myself.
maybe, I feel pretty good about myself either way. mirror don't lie
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Fake Vulture @FakeB_Rohleder: THAT DUNK THO
https://twitter.com/FakeB_Rohleder
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whole lotta dumb in here
how in the hell was that oscar's fault, that rule is in place on every level of sanctioned basketball
also there isn't a damn rule about 20 minutes, you can dunk until the officials enter the floor at that point you can't dunk anymore, that jackass knew the rule
Why are you calling Vulture a jackass?
probably because everyone knows you aren't suppose to dunk..
jackass
Guess I'm a jackass then. Pretty sure I've seen that kind of "dunk" many times before basketball games and never seen a T called.
I've already explained this, you've seen dunks in warm ups before the officials get on the court. You've seen guys touch the rim while the officials are on the court, Wes & Marcus did it right before Vulture got T'ed. You've never, in a real game, seen a player grasp the rim and pull down on it in front of officials in warm up.
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I'll bet Vulture is glad we didn't lose by a point after UK made one of the tech free throws.
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Didn't Wally Judge or Lu Colon or somebody do this before a KU game once? I smoked a bunch of herb in college, I could be making this up.
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nope
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How is that so many people were clueless about this rule? MIR's interpretation of the rule is what I always knew to be as well.
For pregame:
No refs=dunk.
Refs=no dunk.
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How is that so many people were clueless about this rule? MIR's interpretation of the rule is what I always knew to be as well.
For pregame:
No refs=dunk.
Refs=no dunk.
Yeah, I'm surprised many didn't know about the rule.
Vulture obviously still thought it was before the regular 20 minute warm up (it occurred inside the first minute) when the officials come onto the floor. It was an unfortunate mistake but really I'm not upset an anyone including Vulture or the officials that called it.
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I was surprised by the lack of "OH MY GOD, NEW K-STATE RULE!!" tweets that I saw by K-State fans. Most of the ones I saw were non-K-State beat writers.
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Brian is a guy who feels small, this made him feel big. Good for him, he doesn't give a crap about the rules. Just over achieving through adversity.
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brian "the struggle" Vulture
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Normally players get to come on the court about an hour before tipoff and that is when you see most of the dunking and goofing around before the normal warm-up routine. However since there was a game played on the same court right before that, the warm-up time was cut in half to about 30 minutes. So I'm sure it would be easy to forget about that rule when you just follow your normal routine before every game all season long and then suddenly you play a game with half as much warm-up time.
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I'm happy that it was brian who dunked it. I laughed my ass off for a solid 5 minutes.
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Who knew drinking in pregame was against the rules :dunno:
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I'm happy that it was brian who dunked it. I laughed my ass off for a solid 5 minutes.
Yes, smdh at anyone who got angry about it.
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I'm happy that it was brian who dunked it. I laughed my ass off for a solid 5 minutes.
Yes, smdh at anyone who got angry about it.
I find the lack of people questioning the intelligence of what he did curious. I can't imagine how many dumb assess, idiots, and morons I would have read if Shane did this.
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I'm happy that it was brian who dunked it. I laughed my ass off for a solid 5 minutes.
Yes, smdh at anyone who got angry about it.
I find the lack of people questioning the intelligence of what he did curious. I can't imagine how many dumb assess, idiots, and morons I would have read if Shane did this.
I also enjoyed Shane's T
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I'm happy that it was brian who dunked it. I laughed my ass off for a solid 5 minutes.
Yes, smdh at anyone who got angry about it.
I find the lack of people questioning the intelligence of what he did curious. I can't imagine how many dumb assess, idiots, and morons I would have read if Shane did this.
A lazy player wouldn't have expended the energy to dunk in pregame.
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I'm happy that it was brian who dunked it. I laughed my ass off for a solid 5 minutes.
Yes, smdh at anyone who got angry about it.
I find the lack of people questioning the intelligence of what he did curious. I can't imagine how many dumb assess, idiots, and morons I would have read if Shane did this.
I agree with you
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http://www.contracostatimes.com/top-stories/ci_11875738
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I'm happy that it was brian who dunked it. I laughed my ass off for a solid 5 minutes.
Yes, smdh at anyone who got angry about it.
I find the lack of people questioning the intelligence of what he did curious. I can't imagine how many dumb assess, idiots, and morons I would have read if Shane did this.
I also enjoyed Shane's T
what does one have to do with the other
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I'm happy that it was brian who dunked it. I laughed my ass off for a solid 5 minutes.
Yes, smdh at anyone who got angry about it.
I find the lack of people questioning the intelligence of what he did curious. I can't imagine how many dumb assess, idiots, and morons I would have read if Shane did this.
I also enjoyed Shane's T
what does one have to do with the other
Exactly, so why did you bring up Shane in the first place? I don't think anybody would have been dumping on Shane if he had done it. I don't understand why you want to open up a can of whoop-ass all over Vulture. It wasn't done on purpose, was the first time it has happened, and I forgive him for it. It cost us one freaking point. Bid deal.
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I'm happy that it was brian who dunked it. I laughed my ass off for a solid 5 minutes.
Yes, smdh at anyone who got angry about it.
I find the lack of people questioning the intelligence of what he did curious. I can't imagine how many dumb assess, idiots, and morons I would have read if Shane did this.
I also enjoyed Shane's T
what does one have to do with the other
My laughing at both
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I'm happy that it was brian who dunked it. I laughed my ass off for a solid 5 minutes.
Yes, smdh at anyone who got angry about it.
I find the lack of people questioning the intelligence of what he did curious. I can't imagine how many dumb assess, idiots, and morons I would have read if Shane did this.
I also enjoyed Shane's T
what does one have to do with the other
Exactly, so why did you bring up Shane in the first place? I don't think anybody would have been dumping on Shane if he had done it. I don't understand why you want to open up a can of whoop-ass all over Vulture. It wasn't done on purpose, was the first time it has happened, and I forgive him for it. It cost us one freaking point. Bid deal.
It wasn't done on purpose? Who said I didn't forgive him, whatever that means? It was really stupid for him to do, can I not make that observation?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqSDczD8Xsc
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I view the dunk as the same mental mistake as a bad pass. If you want to call a college athlete an unintelligent dumbass for making a mental mistake, then I guess that's your right mir.
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I'm happy that it was brian who dunked it. I laughed my ass off for a solid 5 minutes.
Yes, smdh at anyone who got angry about it.
I find the lack of people questioning the intelligence of what he did curious. I can't imagine how many dumb assess, idiots, and morons I would have read if Shane did this.
I also enjoyed Shane's T
what does one have to do with the other
Exactly, so why did you bring up Shane in the first place? I don't think anybody would have been dumping on Shane if he had done it. I don't understand why you want to open up a can of whoop-ass all over Vulture. It wasn't done on purpose, was the first time it has happened, and I forgive him for it. It cost us one freaking point. Bid deal.
It wasn't done on purpose? Who said I didn't forgive him, whatever that means? It was really stupid for him to do, can I not make that observation?
It wasn't done on purpose as in I don't believe he knew the refs had taken the court because the normal warm-up time had been dramatically shortened from a regular game. You did make your observation which is fine, but you went on to say this:
"I find the lack of people questioning the intelligence of what he did curious. I can't imagine how many dumb assess, idiots, and morons I would have read if Shane did this."
Which I wholeheartedly disagree with.
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I'm happy that it was brian who dunked it. I laughed my ass off for a solid 5 minutes.
Yes, smdh at anyone who got angry about it.
I find the lack of people questioning the intelligence of what he did curious. I can't imagine how many dumb assess, idiots, and morons I would have read if Shane did this.
I also enjoyed Shane's T
what does one have to do with the other
Exactly, so why did you bring up Shane in the first place? I don't think anybody would have been dumping on Shane if he had done it. I don't understand why you want to open up a can of whoop-ass all over Vulture. It wasn't done on purpose, was the first time it has happened, and I forgive him for it. It cost us one freaking point. Bid deal.
It wasn't done on purpose? Who said I didn't forgive him, whatever that means? It was really stupid for him to do, can I not make that observation?
It wasn't done on purpose as in I don't believe he knew the refs had taken the court because the normal warm-up time had been dramatically shortened from a regular game. You did make your observation which is fine, but you went on to say this:
"I find the lack of people questioning the intelligence of what he did curious. I can't imagine how many dumb assess, idiots, and morons I would have read if Shane did this."
Which I wholeheartedly disagree with.
He's saying that our fan base would treat a black player differently had they done it, which is true.
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I'm happy that it was brian who dunked it. I laughed my ass off for a solid 5 minutes.
Yes, smdh at anyone who got angry about it.
I find the lack of people questioning the intelligence of what he did curious. I can't imagine how many dumb assess, idiots, and morons I would have read if Shane did this.
I also enjoyed Shane's T
what does one have to do with the other
Exactly, so why did you bring up Shane in the first place? I don't think anybody would have been dumping on Shane if he had done it. I don't understand why you want to open up a can of whoop-ass all over Vulture. It wasn't done on purpose, was the first time it has happened, and I forgive him for it. It cost us one freaking point. Bid deal.
It wasn't done on purpose? Who said I didn't forgive him, whatever that means? It was really stupid for him to do, can I not make that observation?
It wasn't done on purpose as in I don't believe he knew the refs had taken the court because the normal warm-up time had been dramatically shortened from a regular game. You did make your observation which is fine, but you went on to say this:
"I find the lack of people questioning the intelligence of what he did curious. I can't imagine how many dumb assess, idiots, and morons I would have read if Shane did this."
Which I wholeheartedly disagree with.
He's saying that our fan base would treat a black player differently had they done it, which is true.
Yeah right. We are just a big-time racist fan base aren't we? I don't believe that to be true at all. Complete B.S.
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He's saying that our fan base would treat a black player differently had they done it, which is true.
Yeah right. We are just a big-time racist fan base aren't we? I don't believe that to be true at all. Complete B.S.
How long have you followed K-St8?
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I view the dunk as the same mental mistake as a bad pass. If you want to call a college athlete an unintelligent dumbass for making a mental mistake, then I guess that's your right mir.
that's stupid
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Oh hey, it's JesseJacksonRain again
:flush:
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Will Spradling will get a jersey hung before Jake Pullen. Of course our fan base is a bunch of racist hicks.
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He's saying that our fan base would treat a black player differently had they done it, which is true.
Yeah right. We are just a big-time racist fan base aren't we? I don't believe that to be true at all. Complete B.S.
meister, the reason I was diplomatic about my point is that people can't handle the nuanced conversation as evidenced by this post. I didn't call anyone or any group of people racist but most like kst8cat can't understand the difference.
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Oh hey, it's JesseJacksonRain again
:flush:
annnnd here's another
Do you understand how much of a moron you look like when you do this?
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Will Spradling will get a jersey hung before Jake Pullen. Of course our fan base is a bunch of racist hicks.
That's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and you know it.
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http://bcove.me/55cuyqi3
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He's saying that our fan base would treat a black player differently had they done it, which is true.
Yeah right. We are just a big-time racist fan base aren't we? I don't believe that to be true at all. Complete B.S.
meister, the reason I was diplomatic about my point is that people can't handle the nuanced conversation as evidenced by this post. I didn't call anyone or any group of people racist but most like kst8cat can't understand the difference.
I did not say you did MIR. Meister is the one who put words into your mouth and my response was entirely to him when he said "which is true". You have yet to explain why you think people would treat Southwell differently, so I am open to whatever your answer is.
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He's saying that our fan base would treat a black player differently had they done it, which is true.
Yeah right. We are just a big-time racist fan base aren't we? I don't believe that to be true at all. Complete B.S.
meister, the reason I was diplomatic about my point is that people can't handle the nuanced conversation as evidenced by this post. I didn't call anyone or any group of people racist but most like kst8cat can't understand the difference.
I did not say you did MIR. Meister is the one who put words into your mouth and my response was entirely to him when he said "which is true". You have yet to explain why you think people would treat Southwell differently, so I am open to whatever your answer is.
Because Shane is black, not from Kansas, and not a walk on. The rules are different for white people, in state players, and walk ons. Let's change Shane to Omari. One of the defenses of Vulture is that he's smart. Omari Lawrence is a college graduate, has any fan on any message board anywhere ever called Omari smart? How many have called him stupid?
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If Shane had been the dunk culprit MIR would have started a thread about how the refs are racist, and everyone else would have reacted the same.
Calling this T was just a precursor for how hard we were going to get rough ridin' by the refs last night. I would bet there were over a 1000 dunks yesterday when the refs "we're on the floor" and over 100000000 this season. This rule has been enforced exactly once, ever. Rohlader should go home and beat his wife with a stick not wider than his thumb, really push his luck.
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MIR, you are pathetic. Shut up
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mir, your best comparison would be victor ojelay. engineering, walk-on, from kansas, black. he even has a last name that i don't know how to spell, just like rhodeler
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mir, your best comparison would be victor ojelay. engineering, walk-on, from kansas, black. he even has a last name that i don't know how to spell, just like rhodeler
What if Marcus Foster was a white guy walk on from Seneca? Fans would love him so much!
What if oscar was black? Everyone would say he has anemia instead of aspergers.
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mir, your best comparison would be victor ojelay. engineering, walk-on, from kansas, black. he even has a last name that i don't know how to spell, just like rhodeler
If Vic or Energy had gotten T'd up for a pregame dunk, may K-State fans would've been disappointed that "one of the good ones" acted up.
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so I've been accused of being one who serially calls people racist 3 times in less than 24 hours
not that fanning, #LIFE, & FSD are listened to by anyone reading this board, they have a combined intellect of a 2 month old Jack Russell, but for the record a search of the word racist by poster makeitrain shows just how many times I've actually called someone racist in comparison to the times I'm actually accused of doing so
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mir, your best comparison would be victor ojelay. engineering, walk-on, from kansas, black. he even has a last name that i don't know how to spell, just like rhodeler
I'll take your ignoring of my point about Omari an acknowledgment that the point was well received
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mir, your best comparison would be victor ojelay. engineering, walk-on, from kansas, black. he even has a last name that i don't know how to spell, just like rhodeler
I'll take your ignoring of my point about Omari an acknowledgment that the point was well received
did i ever disagree with you? you're arguing with air
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so I've been accused of being one who serially calls people racist 3 times in less than 24 hours
not that fanning, #LIFE, & FSD are listened to by anyone reading this board, they have a combined intellect of a 2 month old Jack Russell, but for the record a search of the word racist by poster makeitrain shows just how many times I've actually called someone racist in comparison to the times I'm actually accused of doing so
:lol:
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so I've been accused of being one who serially calls people racist 3 times in less than 24 hours
not that fanning, #LIFE, & FSD are listened to by anyone reading this board, they have a combined intellect of a 2 month old Jack Russell, but for the record a search of the word racist by poster makeitrain shows just how many times I've actually called someone racist in comparison to the times I'm actually accused of doing so
Yeah, you never call ppl names. Never!
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Serial Race Accuser or Sociopath, take your pick
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I do apologize for calling you a racist tho. I just feel like that's a common topic with you. That was not right of me and I acted poorly in my drunken, raged, state. I was just sick of all the bitching after the loss by our fan base. It gets old. I'm not naive enough to not understand your perception on these things tho. You have your right to feel that way.
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I do apologize for calling you a racist tho. I just feel like that's a common topic with you. That was not right of me and I acted poorly in my drunken, raged, state. I was just sick of all the bitching after the loss by our fan base. It gets old. I'm not naive enough to not understand your perception on these things tho. You have your right to feel that way.
thank you
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Oh hey, it's JesseJacksonRain again
:flush:
You can't run Jesse Jackson smack once you're on the record with that 10 black dudes post.
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Oh hey, it's JesseJacksonRain again
:flush:
You can't run Jesse Jackson smack once you're on the record with that 10 black dudes post.
what's this, did I miss yet another #LIFE meltdown
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Oh hey, it's JesseJacksonRain again
:flush:
You can't run Jesse Jackson smack once you're on the record with that 10 black dudes post.
what's this, did I miss yet another #LIFE meltdown
no, i'm pretty sure it was with the marcus smart meltdown. something about 10 black guys gangraping a white girl.
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Wow. I thought this was a KSU sports message board. Guess I was wrong. I thought all three of our seniors had great moments this year. Being inconsistent can be caused by a wide variety of factors. I suspect injuries played more a part than most think.
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Wow. I thought this was a KSU sports message board. Guess I was wrong. I thought all three of our seniors had great moments this year. Being inconsistent can be caused by a wide variety of factors. I suspect injuries played more a part than most think.
:love:
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Wow. I thought this was a KSU sports message board. Guess I was wrong. I thought all three of our seniors had great moments this year. Being inconsistent can be caused by a wide variety of factors. I suspect injuries played more a part than most think.
Get off stevedave's message board
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Last 2 pages have been pretty great, guys. :popcorn:
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only read the last page, but omg fans would have absolutely lost their crap if shane would've been the dunker. like they would still be going crazy at him.
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our fanbase is definitely racist. i can't believe anyone would argue differently.
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our fanbase is definitely racist. i can't believe anyone would argue differently.
Does one drop of racism make the whole fanbase racist? I say yes.
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He's saying that our fan base would treat a black player differently had they done it, which is true.
Yeah right. We are just a big-time racist fan base aren't we? I don't believe that to be true at all. Complete B.S.
meister, the reason I was diplomatic about my point is that people can't handle the nuanced conversation as evidenced by this post. I didn't call anyone or any group of people racist but most like kst8cat can't understand the difference.
I did not say you did MIR. Meister is the one who put words into your mouth and my response was entirely to him when he said "which is true". You have yet to explain why you think people would treat Southwell differently, so I am open to whatever your answer is.
Because Shane is black, not from Kansas, and not a walk on. The rules are different for white people, in state players, and walk ons. Let's change Shane to Omari. One of the defenses of Vulture is that he's smart. Omari Lawrence is a college graduate, has any fan on any message board anywhere ever called Omari smart? How many have called him stupid?
Let me ask you this. If Shane were the culprit in dunking before the game, would you still have posted this (minus the walk-on part)?
"rough ridin' moron jackass walkon, peace of crap. what a goddamned moron"
You seem to be saying that would be the natural reaction of many people and perfectly justifiable. But since Vulture enjoys some sort of "protected status" in people's minds because he is a white walk-on from the state of Kansas, we look the other way and don't criticize him for screwing up. But just to clarify, who exactly are we talking about here? When you wrote "I can't imagine how many dumb assess, idiots, and morons I would have read if Shane did this", it sounds like a criticism of just goEMAW posters in this thread who did not share your reaction about the dunk. But I also get the sense that you may be trying to make a larger point about how your typical KSU fan looks at players as a whole.
As far as the dunk itself, I still don't think anyone would have reacted differently had it been Shane. I mean the vast majority of fans (myself included) had no idea that was even a rule to begin with. As far as typical KSU fans go in how they view players, I don't think race makes the slightest bit of difference. We all want the best players in every way possible to attend and represent our school. I don't think race factors into that even the slightest bit. People may cheer a little more for a Kansas kid now and then because people have state pride and enjoy knowing that our small state is capable of producing Division 1 level athletes, and we want to show that we appreciate them staying in the state to play for our school. When you have elite in-state talent like a Terrence Newman or Darren Sproles, the love-fest just goes off the charts. Same with guys like Wayne Simien or Perry Ellis at KU. I think everyone knows you can't be a successful Kansas team without pulling a lot of talent from out of state, but I don't see why anyone would have a problem with fans rooting or cheering for Kansas players to do well. I mean it may be a bias of sorts, but so what? As far as walk-ons, most people view them as the ultimate underdog because we seldom get to them play. So yeah you may hear extra loud cheering when one of them makes a 3-pointer or something, but again so what? It's not like fans actually love or appreciate them more than the starters. If all the walk-ons were starters we would be losing every single game and everyone knows that.
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He's saying that our fan base would treat a black player differently had they done it, which is true.
Yeah right. We are just a big-time racist fan base aren't we? I don't believe that to be true at all. Complete B.S.
meister, the reason I was diplomatic about my point is that people can't handle the nuanced conversation as evidenced by this post. I didn't call anyone or any group of people racist but most like kst8cat can't understand the difference.
I did not say you did MIR. Meister is the one who put words into your mouth and my response was entirely to him when he said "which is true". You have yet to explain why you think people would treat Southwell differently, so I am open to whatever your answer is.
Because Shane is black, not from Kansas, and not a walk on. The rules are different for white people, in state players, and walk ons. Let's change Shane to Omari. One of the defenses of Vulture is that he's smart. Omari Lawrence is a college graduate, has any fan on any message board anywhere ever called Omari smart? How many have called him stupid?
I don't follow message board discussion closely all the time, especially on other sites, but I take it you don't like that people in the past have referred to Vulture as smart. I didn't know much at all about Vulture before Friday night, but a quick look at his bio states that he "was named to both the Fall 2012 and Spring 2013 Big 12 Commissioner's Honor Roll, which included a 4.0 GPA in the fall". So based on that, why on earth would anybody have a problem with a message board poster referring to the guy as smart? I guess I don't get it. Are there all kinds of people out there calling Omari stupid or something?
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A lot of people call Omari stupid.
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roehleder (sp?) did it and people went huh that's weird. i didn't even know that was a rule and the ref should not have called it. if shane did it, 37 yr old soccer moms would've been cussing him out on facebook for the next 24 hours. those are facts. take whatever you want from them.
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I would've preferred that Shane or some other starter have gotten the T. Well, not Shane because he would've been ejected with the second T. It pisses me off more that it was a walk-on.
A walk-on's one job during a game is to not get a T and hurt the team. Ours did.
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A walk-on's one job during a game is to not get a T and hurt the team. Ours did.
what about "psych up the team with the first ever dunk of his life", huh?! you saw how shook the guy who took the freethrows was! He musta been like, "damn, if their walkons can do that, we're in trouble."
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Has it been mentioned how rough ridin' stupid this rule is?
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roehleder (sp?) did it and people went huh that's weird. i didn't even know that was a rule and the ref should not have called it. if shane did it, 37 yr old soccer moms would've been cussing him out on facebook for the next 24 hours. those are facts. take whatever you want from them.
Actually those are not facts. That is your assumption based on a hypothetical situation. Can you show some evidence based on a comparable situation? Let's take Adrian Hilburn's salute at the end of the Pinstripe Bowl a few years ago. I don't recall any K-State fans jumping all over Hilburn calling him dumb and stupid for doing it. Everyone I knew or read online talked about how the refs mumped us over and how the excessive celebration rule was not enforced in other games going on in the same day or even in the same game when Syracuse scored earlier. I recall nothing but sympathy for Hilburn in that situation. I was pissed beyond belief at the refs, not Hilburn, and I'm willing to bet that so were the "37 year old soccer moms" out there.
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roehleder (sp?) did it and people went huh that's weird. i didn't even know that was a rule and the ref should not have called it. if shane did it, 37 yr old soccer moms would've been cussing him out on facebook for the next 24 hours. those are facts. take whatever you want from them.
Actually those are not facts. That is your assumption based on a hypothetical situation. Can you show some evidence based on a comparable situation? Let's take Adrian Hilburn's salute at the end of the Pinstripe Bowl a few years ago. I don't recall any K-State fans jumping all over Hilburn calling him dumb and stupid for doing it. Everyone I knew or read online talked about how the refs mumped us over and how the excessive celebration rule was not enforced in other games going on in the same day or even in the same game when Syracuse scored earlier. I recall nothing but sympathy for Hilburn in that situation. I was pissed beyond belief at the refs, not Hilburn, and I'm willing to bet that so were the "37 year old soccer moms" out there.
like i said, facts. i mean, you can come up with all the five year old football hypotheticals you want but they don't dispute the truth that i've already laid out. sorry, man.
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Has it been mentioned how rough ridin' stupid this rule is?
What is the intent of the rule? How does it improve or protect the game?
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Has it been mentioned how rough ridin' stupid this rule is?
What is the intent of the rule? How does it improve or protect the game?
I've always assumed it was to prevent damage to the goal close to game time.
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I would've preferred that Shane or some other starter have gotten the T. Well, not Shane because he would've been ejected with the second T. It pisses me off more that it was a walk-on.
A walk-on's one job during a game is to not get a T and hurt the team. Ours did.
Yeah. I want Rholeder off the team.
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roehleder (sp?) did it and people went huh that's weird. i didn't even know that was a rule and the ref should not have called it. if shane did it, 37 yr old soccer moms would've been cussing him out on facebook for the next 24 hours. those are facts. take whatever you want from them.
Actually those are not facts. That is your assumption based on a hypothetical situation. Can you show some evidence based on a comparable situation? Let's take Adrian Hilburn's salute at the end of the Pinstripe Bowl a few years ago. I don't recall any K-State fans jumping all over Hilburn calling him dumb and stupid for doing it. Everyone I knew or read online talked about how the refs mumped us over and how the excessive celebration rule was not enforced in other games going on in the same day or even in the same game when Syracuse scored earlier. I recall nothing but sympathy for Hilburn in that situation. I was pissed beyond belief at the refs, not Hilburn, and I'm willing to bet that so were the "37 year old soccer moms" out there.
like i said, facts. i mean, you can come up with all the five year old football hypotheticals you want but they don't dispute the truth that i've already laid out. sorry, man.
Weak
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I would be pretty pissed if Shane did it, too. I wouldn't be as pissed because really all Roehleder should be doing in the pregame is chasing down the balls for the players on the team who are actually getting ready to play a basketball game. I'd still be pissed, though.
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:awesomethread
:popcorn:
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Has it been mentioned how rough ridin' stupid this rule is?
What is the intent of the rule? How does it improve or protect the game?
I've always assumed it was to prevent damage to the goal close to game time.
Mike Decourcey(sp??) was on 810 this morning and he said that is exactly the reason the rule was put in place. Back when basketball goals were made out of wood and peachbaskets they didn't want someone to damage or break the goal which would obviously delay the game. He says now with breakaway rims it's nearly impossible to break a backboard these days and that technology has passed that rule by.
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Has it been mentioned how rough ridin' stupid this rule is?
What is the intent of the rule? How does it improve or protect the game?
I've always assumed it was to prevent damage to the goal close to game time.
Mike Decourcey(sp??) was on 810 this morning and he said that is exactly the reason the rule was put in place. Back when basketball goals were made out of wood and peachbaskets they didn't want someone to damage or break the goal which would obviously delay the game. He says now with breakaway rims it's nearly impossible to break a backboard these days and that technology has passed that rule by.
Never forget the night Chocolate Thunder (that's what he called himself for you hypersensitive variation on Godwin's law types) broke the backboard at Municipal Auditorium.
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Has it been mentioned how rough ridin' stupid this rule is?
What is the intent of the rule? How does it improve or protect the game?
I've always assumed it was to prevent damage to the goal close to game time.
Mike Decourcey(sp??) was on 810 this morning and he said that is exactly the reason the rule was put in place. Back when basketball goals were made out of wood and peachbaskets they didn't want someone to damage or break the goal which would obviously delay the game. He says now with breakaway rims it's nearly impossible to break a backboard these days and that technology has passed that rule by.
Never forget the night Chocolate Thunder (that's what he called himself for you hypersensitive variation on Godwin's law types) broke the backboard at Municipal Auditorium.
Well if you let someone from planet Lovetron play on earth courts, that is what is going to happen
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roehleder (sp?) did it and people went huh that's weird. i didn't even know that was a rule and the ref should not have called it. if shane did it, 37 yr old soccer moms would've been cussing him out on facebook for the next 24 hours. those are facts. take whatever you want from them.
MIR may have been implying that there are way more 37 year old soccer moms here on goEMAW.com than many of us realize
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Has it been mentioned how rough ridin' stupid this rule is?
What is the intent of the rule? How does it improve or protect the game?
I've always assumed it was to prevent damage to the goal close to game time.
Mike Decourcey(sp??) was on 810 this morning and he said that is exactly the reason the rule was put in place. Back when basketball goals were made out of wood and peachbaskets they didn't want someone to damage or break the goal which would obviously delay the game. He says now with breakaway rims it's nearly impossible to break a backboard these days and that technology has passed that rule by.
Never forget the night Chocolate Thunder (that's what he called himself for you hypersensitive variation on Godwin's law types) broke the backboard at Municipal Auditorium.
Well if you let someone from planet Lovetron play on earth courts, that is what is going to happen
Pfft, I think that pretty much goes without saying doesn't it Chi?
Let's take a look. I made the starting point with his dunk over Walton, because I'd really like to hear the great and fabulous Bill Walton wax nostalgic on CT's dunk, and CT's game overall.
http://youtu.be/-sYJ2ItXiRo?t=1m35s
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Glad the refs didn't enforce that rule back when clams and I used to ball. :2handedrimrattler
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Has it been mentioned how rough ridin' stupid this rule is?
What is the intent of the rule? How does it improve or protect the game?
I've always assumed it was to prevent damage to the goal close to game time.
Mike Decourcey(sp??) was on 810 this morning and he said that is exactly the reason the rule was put in place. Back when basketball goals were made out of wood and peachbaskets they didn't want someone to damage or break the goal which would obviously delay the game. He says now with breakaway rims it's nearly impossible to break a backboard these days and that technology has passed that rule by.
Decourcey as usual is an idiot. I've seen a high schooler break a backboard; lets see what happens when we see guys 6'7" 255 with 6 percent body fat dunking as hard as they can undefended every night.
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roehleder (sp?) did it and people went huh that's weird. i didn't even know that was a rule and the ref should not have called it. if shane did it, 37 yr old soccer moms would've been cussing him out on facebook for the next 24 hours. those are facts. take whatever you want from them.
MIR may have been implying that there are way more 37 year old soccer moms here on goEMAW.com than many of us realize
When we talk about these things I usually speak from first hand experience and keeping with that, I don't think Shane would have too many problems with 37 year old soccer moms, they generally would like him a lot :fatty:
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It's not like teams are going to have dunk contests in pre-game. It's a dumb rough ridin' rule. Period.
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10. Vulture already has the tournament’s Most Outstanding Player award locked up.
If you missed it, Vulture is a Kansas State walk-on who received a technical for dunking in warm-ups before his team’s game against Kentucky. History will look back on this as the coolest trillion ever recorded. And yes, it’s still technically a trillion since he had one technical foul and no other stats, including minutes played. This means he very well could be the only person in the world to dunk and get a trillion in the same game. If I were Vulture, I would never stop reminding people of this glorious achievement.
http://grantland.com/features/ncaa-tournament-march-madness-mark-titus-kentucky-wichita-state-louisville-michigan/
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It's not like teams are going to have dunk contests in pre-game. It's a dumb rough ridin' rule. Period.
Great!
Anyway, I would be surprised if the rule went away. There isn't a clamoring to let players dunk during warm-ups and athletic directors don't want to risk having to replace the rims in pregame. The rule has been around for 40 years, no need to change a rule that so infrequently gets violated.
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So you can dunk the eff out of the ball twenty minutes and 1 second before tipoff, but not 19 minutes and 59 seconds before, because at 20 minutes the rim all of the sudden becomes susceptible to breaking and at that point in time it's too late to timely get a new one installed?
MIR, your blinding hatred of white people, Butch Redledder in this case, has caused you to take an unbelievably irrational and ignorant position regarding this archaic and seldom enforced rule from the pre-breakaway-rim era of basketball, back when pubic hair spewed from the confines of polyester thigh high form fitting shorts.
It's a stupid rough ridin' rule that is never enforced despite being broken 100 times per half. It's what jaywalking is, if jaywalking were enforced 1/100th of its current enforcement rate. Shut The eff Up
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:popcorn:
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Butch Redledder
Who? Aww who cares, I don't, peckerwood.
The term "Peckerwood," an inversion of "Woodpecker," is used as a pejorative term. This word was coined in the 19th century by Southern blacks to describe poor whites. They considered them loud and troublesome like the bird, and often with red hair like the woodpecker's head plumes
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Stan Weber discussed this in detail with Nate and Steven on the Border Patrol this morning. Pretty interesting. This is a link to the podcast in case you missed it. Also discusses the oscar to Marquette rumors later in the interview.
http://www.810whb.com/page.php?page_id=140 (http://www.810whb.com/page.php?page_id=140)
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should make this our thing. like, we get a guy to go up and just tomahawk slam it right before pregame ends every game and give the other team a 2 pt lead. its a lot like a coach getting a T to fire his guys up, except were trying to fire up the crowd and our players at the same time.
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Has it been mentioned how rough ridin' stupid this rule is?
What is the intent of the rule? How does it improve or protect the game?
I've always assumed it was to prevent damage to the goal close to game time.
Mike Decourcey(sp??) was on 810 this morning and he said that is exactly the reason the rule was put in place. Back when basketball goals were made out of wood and peachbaskets they didn't want someone to damage or break the goal which would obviously delay the game. He says now with breakaway rims it's nearly impossible to break a backboard these days and that technology has passed that rule by.
Decourcey as usual is an idiot. I've seen a high schooler break a backboard; lets see what happens when we see guys 6'7" 255 with 6 percent body fat dunking as hard as they can undefended every night.
not to nitpick here (i dont care about this dumb rough ridin' rule one way or the other) but im guessing most high school backboards arent as advanced as say a d-1 college or arena would have. carry on
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Butch Redledder
Who? Aww who cares, I don't, peckerwood.
The term "Peckerwood," an inversion of "Woodpecker," is used as a pejorative term. This word was coined in the 19th century by Southern blacks to describe poor whites. They considered them loud and troublesome like the bird, and often with red hair like the woodpecker's head plumes
Thanks for the vocabulary lesson. WTF? LOL
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mir, your best comparison would be victor ojelay. engineering, walk-on, from kansas, black. he even has a last name that i don't know how to spell, just like rhodeler
What if Marcus Foster was a white guy walk on from Seneca? Fans would love him so much!What if oscar was black? Everyone would say he has anemia instead of aspergers.
I cannot speak for the entire fanbase, but I would love it if we had this!
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should make this our thing. like, we get a guy to go up and just tomahawk slam it right before pregame ends every game and give the other team a 2 pt lead. its a lot like a coach getting a T to fire his guys up, except were trying to fire up the crowd and our players at the same time.
i'm all in
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Has it been mentioned how rough ridin' stupid this rule is?
What is the intent of the rule? How does it improve or protect the game?
I've always assumed it was to prevent damage to the goal close to game time.
Mike Decourcey(sp??) was on 810 this morning and he said that is exactly the reason the rule was put in place. Back when basketball goals were made out of wood and peachbaskets they didn't want someone to damage or break the goal which would obviously delay the game. He says now with breakaway rims it's nearly impossible to break a backboard these days and that technology has passed that rule by.
Decourcey as usual is an idiot. I've seen a high schooler break a backboard; lets see what happens when we see guys 6'7" 255 with 6 percent body fat dunking as hard as they can undefended every night.
not to nitpick here (i dont care about this dumb rough ridin' rule one way or the other) but im guessing most high school backboards arent as advanced as say a d-1 college or arena would have. carry on
most are though
Not very interestingly enough I ordered two basketball goals a couple of months ago also not very interestingly enough this is the second time I've had to do this. Anyway I could get into some real dorkiness about plexiglass and perforated polycarbonate but the bottom line is that the quality of the rim and boards don't vary much. Even if you can't be convinced that the quality isn't much different, you can certainly recognize the difference in strength from a high schooler and a college basketball player with the benefit of a S & C program.
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Backboards don't break anymore. It's basically impossible to do.
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Backboards don't break anymore. It's basically impossible to do.
Agreed, Wally Judge and Jam Sam used to routinely come out early and try to rip the rough ridin' rim off before warmups. I don't recall there ever being a problem with the goal after they were done with it.
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Backboards don't break anymore. It's basically impossible to do.
Has it ever been anything but "basically impossible?"
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Backboards don't break anymore. It's basically impossible to do.
Has it ever been anything but "basically impossible?"
Was probably easy when it was wood and a peach basket. :dunno:
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should make this our thing. like, we get a guy to go up and just tomahawk slam it right before pregame ends every game and give the other team a 2 pt lead. its a lot like a coach getting a T to fire his guys up, except were trying to fire up the crowd and our players at the same time.
i'm all in
Me too.
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Backboards don't break anymore. It's basically impossible to do.
Has it ever been anything but "basically impossible?"
Was probably easy when it was wood and a peach basket. :dunno:
no one dunked then,I guess we'll never know
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Part of the reason my new years resolution (for 3 years now) was to slam dunk a basketball was to live out the fantasy of getting called down onto the court at half time to do some silly game where I shoot for chipotle burritos or something and throw down an immense tomahawk chop monster jam and the cat fans just go wild and rush the court and I get one free burrito a week for a year.
would that be a technical?
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Part of the reason my new years resolution (for 3 years now) was to slam dunk a basketball was to live out the fantasy of getting called down onto the court at half time to do some silly game where I shoot for chipotle burritos or something and throw down an immense tomahawk chop monster jam and the cat fans just go wild and rush the court and I get one free burrito a week for a year.
would that be a technical?
technical-ly awesome!
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they used to not let you dunk at the rec during pick up games for this very reason but the guys and gals who worked there loved me and my dunks were mind blowing so they said eff it 'sclams, we can't cage your beautiful wings, be free to dunk at will and i did. still had a few n00bs kick me out from time to time but hey, that's the price you pay for having more hops than sam adams
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they used to not let you dunk at the rec during pick up games for this very reason but the guys and gals who worked there loved me and my dunks were mind blowing so they said eff it 'sclams, we can't cage your beautiful wings, be free to dunk at will and i did. still had a few n00bs kick me out from time to time but hey, that's the price you pay for having more hops than sam adams
:lol:
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being able to dunk a basketball has to be a great feeling
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Backboards don't break anymore. It's basically impossible to do.
Has it ever been anything but "basically impossible?"
Was probably easy when it was wood and a peach basket. :dunno:
no one dunked then,I guess we'll never know
Good point. That was back when kids actually learned the art of a left handed layup. Times have changed.
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being able to dunk a basketball has to be a great feeling
it is. nothing like tossing that bad boy up like youre in the sprite slam dunk contest, having it bounce once about 9.5 feet in the air and then jumping up and letting the whole gym know you came to party.
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being able to dunk a basketball has to be a great feeling
imagine being able to dunk being only 6'3" and 37 years old :Woot:
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being able to dunk a basketball has to be a great feeling
imagine being able to dunk being only 6'3" and 37 years old :Woot:
:dubious:
Sounds like another Farha challenge to me.
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being able to dunk a basketball has to be a great feeling
imagine being able to dunk being only 6'3" and 37 years old :Woot:
:dubious:
Sounds like another Farha challenge to me.
How'd that last one go? I'm in for a Chicago based challenge, like catching a tennis ball dropped from the top of the Sears Tower or whatever the hell they're calling it these days.
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willis tower, fwiw.
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being able to dunk a basketball has to be a great feeling
imagine being able to dunk being only 6'3" and 37 years old :Woot:
:dubious:
Sounds like another Farha challenge to me.
How'd that last one go? I'm in for a Chicago based challenge, like catching a tennis ball dropped from the top of the Sears Tower or whatever the hell they're calling it these days.
My memory is you passing the football throw and failing the basketball dunk. You definitely can't catch a tennis ball from the top of that Tower. BASE jumping?
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being able to dunk a basketball has to be a great feeling
imagine being able to dunk being only 6'3" and 37 years old :Woot:
only? :curse:
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should make this our thing. like, we get a guy to go up and just tomahawk slam it right before pregame ends every game and give the other team a 2 pt lead. its a lot like a coach getting a T to fire his guys up, except were trying to fire up the crowd and our players at the same time.
i'm all in
Me too.
:fistpump:
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00:55 mark....
http://deadspin.com/dumb-shining-moment-your-2014-ncaa-tournament-lowlight-1559929109 (http://deadspin.com/dumb-shining-moment-your-2014-ncaa-tournament-lowlight-1559929109)
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00:55 mark....
http://deadspin.com/dumb-shining-moment-your-2014-ncaa-tournament-lowlight-1559929109 (http://deadspin.com/dumb-shining-moment-your-2014-ncaa-tournament-lowlight-1559929109)
:lol:
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should make this our thing. like, we get a guy to go up and just tomahawk slam it right before pregame ends every game and give the other team a 2 pt lead. its a lot like a coach getting a T to fire his guys up, except were trying to fire up the crowd and our players at the same time.
i'm all in
Me too.
:fistpump:
Rotates through all of our studs. Their own private slam dunk contest, one player, one dunk before each game. This is a great idea. :emawkid:
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"now, traditionally Kansas State will have one of their players dunk the basketball at the end of pregame warm ups to get the team and crowd fired up and also spot their opponent a 2 point advantage to start the game but because this is an NCAA game they might take it a little more ser--- OH MY GOD MARCUS FOSTER WITH A MASSIVE 360 WINDMILL DUNK FROM THE FREE THROW LINE!!! THE WILDCATS WILL GET A TECHNICAL FOUL FOR THIS ONE AND WILL SURELY SPOT THEIR HATED RIVALS THE DUKE BLUE DEVILS A 2 POINT LEAD BUT OH BABY THAT WAS A BIG SLAMMA JAMMA!"
:emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid:
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Word has it that Vulture shattered the backboard while dunking over some kids this weekend at basketball camp. Ah, the irony.
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Word has it that Vulture shattered the backboard while dunking over some kids this weekend at basketball camp. Ah, the irony.
http://instagram.com/p/o8ljSnTLqV/ (http://instagram.com/p/o8ljSnTLqV/)
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STUD
Gonna win 'em all!
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lol, awesome
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Omg
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:lol:
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:surprised:
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what a rough ridin' loser. I hope some kid punched that miserable prick in the junk.
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:facepalm:
what a rough ridin' loser. I hope some kid punched that miserable prick in the junk.
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Hanging on the rim is against the rules.
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How many graduated players leach off of our basketball program after they should be gone.
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holy crap
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That was crappy D anyways
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:sdeek: :lol: :lol:
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That was crappy D anyways
i laughed
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what a rough ridin' loser. I hope some kid punched that miserable prick in the junk.
please, please just let it go.
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one time in high school we had an ice storm and the backboard in my driveway had a sheet of ice on it. i slowly lowered it down to 8 feet and got like a 5 step running start into a windmill slamma jamma. all the ice fell down on me and my bro eric got it on camera.
ill see if i can dig up that video. its pretty similar to the b-ro one in this thread.