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Title: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 20, 2014, 05:59:33 PM
so some guy that is just a horrible guy gives you twenty five dollars to give to some other guy that is also probably just a horrible guy. anyway you begrudgingly agree because the first guy has his kids with him and you don't want to punch his lights out in front of them (even though you obvs could). anyway and totally hypothetical here...let's say that he gives you 25 dollars and you are all like year whatever fine i'll get it to him for you and then you have the oppy to exchange the money off and you realize that you only have 24 dollars cashola on you. i mean you probably don't really owe that other guy a dollar do you? i mean gosh darn i don't know how much free time you guys have but if i'm relaying money/dollars/cash real time then we can prob just let bygones be bygones, no? thoughts?
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: star seed 7 on March 20, 2014, 06:04:35 PM
wonder what the police would have to say bout this
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: wetwillie on March 20, 2014, 06:07:59 PM
any reasonable person considers that one dollar a transaction fee. 
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: star seed 7 on March 20, 2014, 06:09:17 PM
any reasonable person considers that one dollar a transaction fee.

the the payer should have given 26 dollars.  you can't take that out of the receivers end.
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: sys on March 20, 2014, 06:12:16 PM
what you are contemplating is not ethical.
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: chum1 on March 20, 2014, 06:19:52 PM
You don't owe the second guy crap.  The first guy owes him.  You have the first guy's $25, though.  So, the next time you see the first guy, give him $25 and say, "This is the money you gave me for [the second guy].  I just couldn't do it, man."
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: sys on March 20, 2014, 06:24:22 PM
You don't owe the second guy crap.  The first guy owes him.  You have the first guy's $25, though.  So, the next time you see the first guy, give him $25 and say, "This is the money you gave me for [the second guy].  I just couldn't do it, man."

giving the one guy $24 and the original guy one dollar back would be funnier.
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: kso_FAN on March 20, 2014, 06:27:19 PM
You are absolutely fine.
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 20, 2014, 06:29:13 PM
i mean this is all up in the air you guys because i already used an additional "middle man" to get the money from guy a to guy b. what if this middle man keeps a dollar for himself? should i have vetted that? is that my responsibility? man what a messed up situation. i mean someone would darn near have to quit their job to have the free time to make this exchange happen. i mean wtf right?
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: michigancat on March 20, 2014, 06:29:47 PM
i'm so confused
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: AST on March 20, 2014, 06:30:25 PM
i know what's going on here!  rick, it's totally cool to pinch a little out of the sack to fill your bong before passing the sack along.
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: Mr Bread on March 20, 2014, 06:30:55 PM
What happened to the missing dollar?
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: sys on March 20, 2014, 06:37:14 PM
What happened to the missing dollar?

missing dollars, afawk.
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: kso_FAN on March 20, 2014, 06:41:42 PM
Whose to say the middle man didn't take the dollar. I mean if there were some very ethical witnesses present when the money changed hands and they all say the middle man received the correct amount, how will the ultimate person receiving the money know who took the dollar?
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: sys on March 20, 2014, 06:44:19 PM
what a slippery slope.
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: Mr Bread on March 20, 2014, 06:47:33 PM
I don't like what this new name is doing to daris. 
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: chum1 on March 20, 2014, 06:48:28 PM
You don't owe the second guy crap.  The first guy owes him.  You have the first guy's $25, though.  So, the next time you see the first guy, give him $25 and say, "This is the money you gave me for [the second guy].  I just couldn't do it, man."

giving the one guy $24 and the original guy one dollar back would be funnier.

I don't think rowdyboyy wants to be that helpful to the first guy (who he described as horrible).
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: michigancat on March 20, 2014, 07:05:30 PM
What happened to the missing dollar?

FAN needed a friggin iced tea at mcdonald's or something
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: kso_FAN on March 20, 2014, 07:32:43 PM
What happened to the missing dollar?

FAN needed a friggin iced tea at mcdonald's or something

No.

I am just (hypothetically) a witness to a portion of the transaction.

What we have here is a classic A to B to C to D transaction. For whatever reason A owed D money, but instead of using mail or finding another way to directly deal with D, A asked B for help. B is very nice person so he complied. B realized he wouldn't probably see D anytime soon. During an interaction with C, who D sees on a regular basis apparently, B asked if C could help with the transaction. B then gave C the money to give to D at a more convenient time.

With all of these moving parts who knows the real issue.

Maybe A never gave B a full $25 dollars. Maybe B has a thief living with him that stole the money. Maybe someone stole the dollar stealthily while B handed the money to C. Maybe C took the dollar for his part in the transaction.

I'm not sure we'll ever know the answer.
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: star seed 7 on March 20, 2014, 07:38:04 PM
sounds like A is a really horrible person
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: AST on March 20, 2014, 07:38:20 PM
so does $24 really stand for $24,000 and $25 for $25,000.  i mean this whole episode is not very :kstategrad: if it is over $1

solution.  give the payee $25 and have no more interactions with the payer. 
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: Tobias on March 20, 2014, 07:43:48 PM
this is the rake-iest thread ever
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: Johnny Wichita on March 21, 2014, 08:11:10 AM
Sounds a lot like theft to me.  Also, what happened to the 25th dollar?  Daris, did you check the between the couch cushions?  Sure maybe this fine, upstanding gentleman who pays his debts, accidentally only gave you $24.  Another likely scenario: as you sat on the couch drooling and watching cartoons, your hands, slippery with cheeto cheese, lost one of the dollars into the depths of the couch.  Also, have you asked an adult to double check your math?
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: Institutional Control on March 21, 2014, 08:16:07 AM
any reasonable person considers that one dollar a transaction fee.

the the payer should have given 26 dollars.  you can't take that out of the receivers end.

Paypal does.
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: slobber on March 21, 2014, 08:23:29 AM
This looks like a great place to get some advice on a similar situation:

Say you go to a charity event that this guy (DUDE from here on) spent like a ton of time to get set up. This was a real fancy thing and there was a silent auction, live auction, open bar, great food, ect.ect. ( ;) ). Anyway, you bid on several silent auction items (it's for the kids and you are not an animal for Christ's sake) and even raise your paddle for a few live auction items that really aren't going to work in your schedule so you were just bidding to run up the price.

At the end of the night, you win 4 or 5 silent auction items, which can be taken home from the auction or picked up later. You pick up all of the items that you won except for one. That item happens to be a 6 pack of Boulevard beer, a gift certificate to a craft beer store, and a few trinkets. One of the ladies helping the DUDE run the event texts you a few days later and says, "DUDE drank your beer, but dobber Jr. has your gift certificate and trinkets and is bringing them home from school."

Do you let it go that DUDE drank your beer, or do you hunt him down and beat a six pack of Boulevard (don't recall the flavor) out of him?
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on March 21, 2014, 08:26:04 AM
This looks like a great place to get some advice on a similar situation:

Say you go to a charity event that this guy (DUDE from here on) spent like a ton of time to get set up. This was a real fancy thing and there was a silent auction, live auction, open bar, great food, ect.ect. ( ;) ). Anyway, you bid on several silent auction items (it's for the kids and you are not an animal for Christ's sake) and even raise your paddle for a few live auction items that really aren't going to work in your schedule so you were just bidding to run up the price.

At the end of the night, you win 4 or 5 silent auction items, which can be taken home from the auction or picked up later. You pick up all of the items that you won except for one. That item happens to be a 6 pack of Boulevard beer, a gift certificate to a craft beer store, and a few trinkets. One of the ladies helping the DUDE run the event texts you a few days later and says, "DUDE drank your beer, but dobber Jr. has your gift certificate and trinkets and is bringing them home from school."

Do you let it go that DUDE drank your beer, or do you hunt him down and beat a six pack of Boulevard (don't recall the flavor) out of him?

Every time you see him "jokingly" bring up how he owes you a 6 pack of Blvd.
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: Bloodfart on March 21, 2014, 08:43:23 AM
I say judge him.
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 21, 2014, 08:45:04 AM
Imagine that, Officer RowdyBoyy sticking his fat, corrupt fingers where they don't belong. We'll meet again daris, ohhhhhh we'll meet again. This debt is on you now.
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: star seed 7 on March 21, 2014, 08:45:46 AM
Mrs. Gooch is great at this
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 21, 2014, 09:23:09 AM
thanks for all of the help you guys. after reading this thread and thinking on it quite a bit, i've decided that i will just keep the one dollar and beat up the payer or the payee if they ever try to "force the issue" with me. saul, close this ticket and i'll see everybody at ribcrib for some poppers and wing zings later this afternoon.
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 21, 2014, 09:26:19 AM
just pay trim the $25, jesus.
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: Johnny Wichita on March 21, 2014, 09:27:39 AM
That's our RowdyBoyyyyy. 
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: Bloodfart on March 21, 2014, 09:28:57 AM
Do you accept checks?
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 21, 2014, 04:39:34 PM
Overheard ERII on the phone with BSAC about this whole situation. So this begs the question, "Rowdy Boyyyy, Rowdy Boyyyy, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do with BSAC comes for you?"
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 22, 2014, 10:04:54 PM
Your name is Rowdy Boyy for Christ sakes, start acting like it
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 22, 2014, 10:13:09 PM
RRByD got all up in my face at Station last night. That psycho pulled a 1 dollar bill out of his pocket, lit the thing on fire and told me to go "eff myself".
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: Asteriskhead on March 22, 2014, 10:20:49 PM
RRByD got all up in my face at Station last night. That psycho pulled a 1 dollar bill out of his pocket, lit the thing on fire and told me to go "eff myself".

i witnessed it. the bar tender was pissed, but what was he going to do? that rick rowdy boy is a scary dude.
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on March 22, 2014, 10:28:49 PM
RRByD got all up in my face at Station last night. That psycho pulled a 1 dollar bill out of his pocket, lit the thing on fire and told me to go "eff myself".

i witnessed it. the bar tender was pissed, but what was he going to do? that rick rowdy boy is a scary dude.

The high 5 to KK as he walked away is what infuriated me the most. BTW, that nameless bartender who won't be named should be fired for over serving that pyro.
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 22, 2014, 10:35:40 PM
RRByD got all up in my face at Station last night. That psycho pulled a 1 dollar bill out of his pocket, lit the thing on fire and told me to go "eff myself".

Big time Rowdy Boyy move
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 23, 2014, 03:25:49 AM
RRByD got all up in my face at Station last night. That psycho pulled a 1 dollar bill out of his pocket, lit the thing on fire and told me to go "eff myself".

i witnessed it. the bar tender was pissed, but what was he going to do? that rick rowdy boy is a scary dude.

The high 5 to KK as he walked away is what infuriated me the most. BTW, that nameless bartender who won't be named should be fired for over serving that pyro.

But without said bartender, who was going to start the "Rowdy Boyy! *clap* Rowdy Boyy! *clap*" chant?
Title: Re: hypothetical money sitch
Post by: star seed 7 on March 23, 2014, 04:39:17 AM
Goofy rowdyy