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Title: LEED Buildings in DC . . .
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 03, 2014, 10:11:12 AM
sounds like the certification is pretty much worthless, but a great publicity/money stunt.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/02/report-dcs-green-approved-buildings-using-more-energy/
Title: Re: LEED Buildings in DC . . .
Post by: SdK on March 03, 2014, 10:15:28 AM
MisLEEDing
Title: Re: LEED Buildings in DC . . .
Post by: CNS on March 03, 2014, 10:16:06 AM
sounds like the certification is pretty much worthless, but a great publicity/money stunt.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/02/report-dcs-green-approved-buildings-using-more-energy/

LEED is about more than just power consumption. That is just one of the main four or five categories of what LEED is.  But still, that is pretty stupid.
Title: Re: LEED Buildings in DC . . .
Post by: michigancat on March 03, 2014, 10:48:22 AM
sounds like the certification is pretty much worthless, but a great publicity/money stunt.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/02/report-dcs-green-approved-buildings-using-more-energy/

comments are great
Title: Re: LEED Buildings in DC . . .
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 03, 2014, 09:37:12 PM
Those light bulbs  :cool: :aspirin:
Title: Re: LEED Buildings in DC . . .
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 04, 2014, 09:10:40 AM
The thing with LEED is there isn't enough, if any, emphasis put on commissioning.  These building owners/consulting engineers spec some superior equipment, but it's never set up properly, and therefore runs inefficiently.  Usually the commissioning gets axed as the project runs over schedule and over budget.
Title: Re: LEED Buildings in DC . . .
Post by: CNS on March 04, 2014, 12:06:31 PM
The thing with LEED is there isn't enough, if any, emphasis put on commissioning.  These building owners/consulting engineers spec some superior equipment, but it's never set up properly, and therefore runs inefficiently.  Usually the commissioning gets axed as the project runs over schedule and over budget.

Like the OP, that only addresses a component of LEED. 

The problem with almost all of LEED is that there are ways to get creative and skew the results.  For instance, when a local KC company turned the old Post Office in KCMO into the new IRS, they counted every ton of the old concrete building as "recycled material" stating that they would have torn the building down but instead "recycled" it.

Title: Re: LEED Buildings in DC . . .
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on March 05, 2014, 01:24:00 PM
It's possible this is true, and that it's a problem.

But before I put much stock in it, I'd like to see some analysis that doesn't come from a workgroup called "LEED Exposed."  (Though kudos to them for making their anti-LEED biases clear.)
Title: Re: LEED Buildings in DC . . .
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 05, 2014, 02:22:29 PM
What are the incentives, other than using less energy, for building a LEED certified structure? Are there tax credits involved?
Title: Re: LEED Buildings in DC . . .
Post by: CNS on March 05, 2014, 02:26:19 PM
I believe ther was at one time
  LEED  had a bunch of stats for good reasons though. Productivity of employees being one of them
Title: Re: LEED Buildings in DC . . .
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2014, 02:52:18 PM
It's good marketing.
Title: Re: LEED Buildings in DC . . .
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 05, 2014, 02:59:53 PM
It's good marketing.