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How much fun is this gonna be! :Woohoo:
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How much fun is this gonna be! :Woohoo:
Not much. NIT.
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How much fun is this gonna be! :Woohoo:
Not much. NIT.
:flush:
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How much fun is this gonna be! :Woohoo:
Not much. NIT.
:flush:
We shall see, WS08, we shall see. I hope I'm wrong.
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We probably lay as a 10 seed right now.
Resume wins: Zags, GW, ole miss, OU, and OK. State. Get to .500 in league play and 1 win vs the next two, we're clearly in. Much further than anyone expected here.
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We probably lay as a 10 seed right now.
Resume wins: Zags, GW,ole miss, OU, and OK. State. Get to .500 in league play and a 1 win vs the next two, we're clearly in. Much further than anyone expected here.
Hope you're right and will be the first to :cheers: if you are. :)
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We probably lay as a 10 seed right now.
Resume wins: Zags, GW, ole miss, OU, and OK. State. Get to .500 in league play and 1 win vs the next two, we're clearly in. Much further than anyone expected here.
Disagree on 10 seed. Look at the teams around us. We are 5-4 in the best conf and have 4 top 35 wins.
Lunardi is not all that, but some of his seeds that lost today=
8 seed Xavier lost at home to a crappy team (rpi136)
8 seed Minn lost at home to a crappy team (rpi 93)
9 seed G wash lost today
9 seed FSU lost at home today to a crappy team(rpi 79)
Lunardi has us as a 8 seed, and I tend to think we were on the 7/8 seed border coming into today.
For now, we are safe, and we are in that 8/9 seed game (much closer to an 8 than a 10 right now IMO)
2 tough games at home vs top 20 teams await us next Sat/Mon. Time for our boys to man up. 1-1 at the worst .... or we are 5-6 and then the worry of the bubble may start to loom
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OSU is going to eff around and not be a signature win for us :frown:
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.500 in confy gets us in.
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.500 in confy gets us in.
I would imagine this would be the case, because by doing so we would have beaten two of RPI #25 (UT), #9 (ISU), or #55 (Baylor), and found a way to not slip up vs. TCU and @ TT. I don't think we should have any expectation to win on the road vs anyone but TT (and while imo that is a reasonable expectation, having to have that as a reasonable expectation is kind of pathetic).
02/08/14 vs. Texas
02/10/14 vs. Kansas
02/15/14 at Baylor
02/19/14 vs. TCU
02/22/14 at Oklahoma
02/25/14 at Texas Tech
03/01/14 vs. Iowa State
03/03/14 at Oklahoma State
03/08/14 vs. Baylor
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will we go into the big12 tourney thinking we might need to win one and maybe even two to be sure? you bet your ass we will! :Woohoo:
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.500 in confy gets us in.
I would imagine this would be the case, because by doing so we would have beaten two of RPI #25 (UT), #9 (ISU), or #55 (Baylor), and found a way to not slip up vs. TCU and @ TT. I don't think we should have any expectation to win on the road vs anyone but TT (and while imo that is a reasonable expectation, having to have that as a reasonable expectation is kind of pathetic).
02/08/14 vs. Texas
02/10/14 vs. Kansas
02/15/14 at Baylor
02/19/14 vs. TCU
02/22/14 at Oklahoma
02/25/14 at Texas Tech
03/01/14 vs. Iowa State
03/03/14 at Oklahoma State
03/08/14 vs. Baylor
Yeesh, really could have used a W yesterday. I will feel a lot better if we knock off UT next week. If we lose, we may get an extra home game this year.
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will we go into the big12 tourney thinking we might need to win one and maybe even two to be sure? you bet your ass we will! :Woohoo:
No.
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Each year is different, but last season the Big 10 was the best conference. Illinois had 4 wins vs top 25 and 6 wins vs top 50. Their SOS was in top 10 They went 8-10 in the conf and got a 7 seed in the NCAA
I don't think we want to flirt around with going 8-10, but getting to 9-9 we are going to get 1 maybe 2 more good resume wins. Our SOS is projected to be in the top 20 by seasons end
At 9-9, I could see us getting a 10 seed. The last 4 teams that get in that don't play in those "first round games" will be 11 seeds for the most part and the 4 teams that have to play in the "first round" are usually seeded 12 or higher
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You never know what to expect with Baylor, but I wouldn't be surprised if we beat them twice.
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Just imagine the suspense this could add to your hobby sport! :Woohoo:
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It's pretty obvious we're about to lose the next 3. I, for one, am looking forward to hosting a NIT game or two.
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Remember, Wichita State won the NIT in 2011.
Guys, we could be 2 years away from a final four run and 3 years away from being undefeated!!!
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Being Wichita state would suck
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How much fun is this gonna be! :Woohoo:
Not much. NIT.
I think we probably make it to the tournament, but I am going to go back to wanting oscar fired if this happens.
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We either win the NIT(as long as we don't have to leave home) or lose in the first round of the tournament
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we really are a bubble team though. our remaining 9-
vs UT W (6-4)
vs KU L (6-5)
@ BU L (6-6)
vs TCU W (7-6)
@ OU L (7-7)
@ TT W (8-7)
vs ISU W (9-7)
@ OSU L (9-8)
vs BU W (10-8)
we need to win every "winnable" game from here on and can't screw up. i don't see our team winning any upset games.
like rick daris said, we'll head into the b12 needing a win/two to help our seeding.
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we play and will continue to play a lot of close games and i can't quite decide if we're the team that beat ou and osu in close ones or the team that just lost to wvu, iowa st and texas in close ones. more than likely we are what we are, but instead of thinking how good of a position we'd be in if we would've pulled off texas or wvu, think about how ugly and desperate things would seem if we would've just lost one of those close oklahoma or osu games. texas at home in a week is huge. can't lose at home to anyone but ku.
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we play and will continue to play a lot of close games and i can't quite decide if we're the team that beat ou and osu in close ones or the team that just lost to wvu, iowa st and texas in close ones.
we are both.
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We'll be on the wrong side of the bubble after losses to Texas, KU and Baylor
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We'll be on the wrong side of the bubble after losses to Texas, KU and Baylor
I think we win at least 1 of those, but we might need to win 2. :frown:
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pretty important stretch. 0-3 and it'd be a tough road in. 2-1 or 3-0 and they're in really great shape. 1-2 would be pretty much status quo.
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Well, we better beat Texas (we won't) because we're not beating KU and lol at going on the road to Waco and coming home with a W
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I hate being a bubble team, I just hate it.
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I hate being a bubble team, I just hate it.
that feeling where you expect your name to be called, but it never is: THE rough ridin' WORST
so horrible.
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Baylor is really bad, if we don't go 2-0 then we are definitely NIT
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We're beating Texas Saturday. I'm not worried about this at all.
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We're beating Texas Saturday. I'm not worried about this at all.
Didn't you say we were going to win in Lawrence? Does that mean we're going to lose by 26 to Texas?
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We're beating Texas Saturday. I'm not worried about this at all.
Didn't you say we were going to win in Lawrence? Does that mean we're going to lose by 26 to Texas?
No. I never said that. That would have been a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thing to say.
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We're beating Texas Saturday. I'm not worried about this at all.
Didn't you say we were going to win in Lawrence? Does that mean we're going to lose by 26 to Texas?
No. I never said that. That would have been a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thing to say.
:lol:
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We're beating Texas Saturday. I'm not worried about this at all.
I will literally bet you any amount of money.
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We're beating Texas Saturday. I'm not worried about this at all.
I will literally bet you any amount of money.
Let's just double or nothing on our previous bet. You can mix and match your 6 packs now. :D
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We're beating Texas Saturday. I'm not worried about this at all.
I will literally bet you any amount of money.
Let's just double or nothing on our previous bet. You can mix and match your 6 packs now. :D
Are we waiting on the spread or just straight up?
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We can do straight up. What do you think it will be? I would image 2 or 3 points in favor of Texas. :dunno:
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Should be interesting to see how Vegas sees both teams now that we've been sucking and Texas is on a roll. I can see anywhere from pk to -7. I'd make it -5
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I'm sure it has been discussed at nauseum before, but what is better for the team going forward. An NIT championship or a loss in the second round of the NCAA?
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I'm sure it has been discussed at nauseum before, but what is better for the team going forward. An NIT championship or a loss in the second round of the NCAA?
Coaching change would be best.
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I'm sure it has been discussed at nauseum before, but what is better for the team going forward. An NIT championship or a loss in the second round of the NCAA?
Losing in one of the play-in games of the NCAA would be better than not making the NCAA and winning the NIT.
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Oh man we are about 2 weeks away from being forced to root against other bubble teams. How much fun will that be! :surprised:
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Oh man we are about 2 weeks away from being forced to root against other bubble teams. How much fun will that be! :surprised:
I'm sure it's at least more fun than watching your team play week in and week out knowing damn good and well they're not going to make the cut, let alone be anywhere near any bubble. :frown:
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NIT.
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I have only had one enjoyable experience watching the Cats in the NIT, and that was when a young ksudeuce sat in the bleachers at Bramlage and watched Ski Jones go for 62 points. Still would have rather been in the tourney though. The NIT is for losers, just ask Jake Pullen.
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We'll be beating Texas if Ridley gets volcanic diarrhea. Unpleasant for him, good for us.
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We'll be beating Texas if Ridley gets volcanic diarrhea. Unpleasant for him, good for us.
the DOOM tho
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I'm sure it has been discussed at nauseum before, but what is better for the team going forward. An NIT championship or a loss in the second round of the NCAA?
Losing in one of the play-in games of the NCAA would be better than not making the NCAA and winning the NIT.
No
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I'm sure it has been discussed at nauseum before, but what is better for the team going forward. An NIT championship or a loss in the second round of the NCAA?
Losing in one of the play-in games of the NCAA would be better than not making the NCAA and winning the NIT.
No
Yes. Without question.
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I'm sure it has been discussed at nauseum before, but what is better for the team going forward. An NIT championship or a loss in the second round of the NCAA?
Losing in one of the play-in games of the NCAA would be better than not making the NCAA and winning the NIT.
No
Would rather win the NIT than lose a play in game by a million times.
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I'm sure it has been discussed at nauseum before, but what is better for the team going forward. An NIT championship or a loss in the second round of the NCAA?
Losing in one of the play-in games of the NCAA would be better than not making the NCAA and winning the NIT.
No
Yes. Without question.
No
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Wanting to win the NIT over being in the NCAA Tourney is pretty dumbassery logic. But hey, we're all entitled to our own opinions.
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Wanting to win the NIT over being in the NCAA Tourney is pretty dumbassery logic. But hey, we're all entitled to our own oppinions.
I'll take post season home games, winning 5 in a row, playing in Madison Square Garden and winning a trophy over a play in game loss to Boise St. I don't find it that dumbassery.
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oscar has the dumbasses choosing the NIT over the NCAA torn-a-ment already :lol:
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Wanting to win the NIT over being in the NCAA Tourney is pretty dumbassery logic. But hey, we're all entitled to our own oppinions.
I'll take post season home games, winning 5 in a row, playing in Madison Square Garden and winning a trophy over a play in game loss to Boise St. I don't find it that dumbassery.
Ugh. I like to travel to the games. Maybe you'd like the home games cause it's right there for you. Which I understand, I guess. However, on a national stage, no one gives two craps about the NIT winner. There's a special kind of magic spark that comes in me come March when I see my team on the bracket. It means anything could happen and that's exciting for me. I could give two craps less about beating some pud teams at home, in a half pak'd f00d.
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Wanting to win the NIT over being in the NCAA Tourney is pretty dumbassery logic. But hey, we're all entitled to our own oppinions.
I'll take post season home games, winning 5 in a row, playing in Madison Square Garden and winning a trophy over a play in game loss to Boise St. I don't find it that dumbassery.
Ugh. I like to travel to the games. Maybe you'd like the home games cause it's right there for you. Which I understand, I guess. However, on a national stage, no one gives two craps about the NIT winner. There's a special kind of magic spark that comes in me come March when I see my team on the bracket. It means anything could happen and that's exciting for me. I could give two craps less about beating some pud teams at home, in a half pak'd f00d.
I guess I like winning more than seeing "Kansas State" on my bracket. And yea, traveling to Pittsburgh to see us lose opening round sounds super fun.
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Wanting to win the NIT over being in the NCAA Tourney is pretty dumbassery logic. But hey, we're all entitled to our own oppinions.
I'll take post season home games, winning 5 in a row, playing in Madison Square Garden and winning a trophy over a play in game loss to Boise St. I don't find it that dumbassery.
Ugh. I like to travel to the games. Maybe you'd like the home games cause it's right there for you. Which I understand, I guess. However, on a national stage, no one gives two craps about the NIT winner. There's a special kind of magic spark that comes in me come March when I see my team on the bracket. It means anything could happen and that's exciting for me. I could give two craps less about beating some pud teams at home, in a half pak'd f00d.
I guess I like winning more than seeing "Kansas State" on my bracket. And yea, traveling to Pittsburgh to see us lose opening round sounds super fun.
We beat Southern Miss first round, I partied the whole day off, and watched us lose to Syracuse the next day (sitting next to JO's mom) and was around all the JAMSam drama. I made $ on the trip selling extra tickets purchased and given by Cassidy. It was a blast. I also ran into felixrex. That would have never happened in the NIT. :D
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Also, staying relevant in the NCAA tourney scene has to be a lot better for a program when it comes to recruiting.
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Do you think winning the NIT would benefit this young team more than an opening round NCAA loss?
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Also the question was posed as losing in a play in game vs winning the NIT. If it was simply play in game vs NIT then you might have an argument.
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Do you think winning the NIT would benefit this young team more than an opening round NCAA loss?
:dubious:
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Do you think winning the NIT would benefit this young team more than an opening round NCAA loss?
:dubious:
So your answer is no?
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Do you think winning the NIT would benefit this young team more than an opening round NCAA loss?
:dubious:
So your answer is no?
still not sure if serious
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Do you think winning the NIT would benefit this young team more than an opening round NCAA loss?
:dubious:
So your answer is no?
still not sure if serious
I'm dead serious.
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I know what one of my favorite cats ever thinks about the NIT and that's good enough for me.
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NIT bids shouldn't even be accepted. We lose money on them, and they do not help recruiting.
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NIT bids shouldn't even be accepted. We lose money on them, and they do not help recruiting.
we should accept them only if we get to play home games and then just pull out as soon as we've played our home games and have to go on the road.
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like we win our first one at home but then have to go play somewhere else and we tell them we quit. then when the NIT people call and tell us we can't quit we just say, "my team is on the floor" and hang up.
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NIT bids shouldn't even be accepted. We lose money on them, and they do not help recruiting.
we should accept them only if we get to play home games and then just pull out as soon as we've played our home games and have to go on the road.
OK, but they have to sell booze at the NIT home games.
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did not even know the nit still existed until the last page of this thread. true story.
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The people who would rather win the NIT have the same mentality as those who would rather beat some crappy team in a worthless bowl game than lose to a good team in the Cotton Bowl.
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Good grief
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5, 10, 15 years down the road, no one remembers if you lost first round or second round, but they certainly will know you made the NCAA's that year. No one cares about winning some exhibition NIT dumpster fire.
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5, 10, 15 years down the road, no one remembers if you lost first round or second round, but they certainly will know you made the NCAA's that year. No one cares about winning some exhibition NIT dumpster fire.
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DUMBASS
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I think the women won that one WNIT like 5-6 years ago and the school banned them from playing after that. Atleast, I think that's what happened, cause I haven't heard about them since. :lol:
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The people who would rather win the NIT have the same mentality as those who would rather beat some crappy team in a worthless bowl game than lose to a good team in the Cotton Bowl.
no, not the same
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5, 10, 15 years down the road, no one remembers if you lost first round or second round, but they certainly will know you made the NCAA's that year. No one cares about winning some exhibition NIT dumpster fire.
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DUMBASS
So 15 years down the road, you're gonna take huge offense to the difference between losing to LaSalle first round or losing to 'Cuse 2nd round? Yeah okay, sure.
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5, 10, 15 years down the road, no one remembers if you lost first round or second round, but they certainly will know you made the NCAA's that year. No one cares about winning some exhibition NIT dumpster fire.
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DUMBASS
So 15 years down the road, you're gonna take huge offense to the difference between losing to LaSalle first round or losing to 'Cuse 2nd round? Yeah okay, sure.
I won't give a crap 15 years down the road. Right now I'm talking about this season and the immediate future. It would be infinitely better for this team to go win the NIT this year rather than lose in the opening round of the NCAA. If you think otherwise you're a rough ridin' idiot.
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There is no correlation that winning the NIT leads to future success for a program.
NCAA appearances are better than the NIT under any circumstance, regardless of success/failure in either tournament. IMHO.
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that's a weird opinion erii
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If we win the NIT, it's going to be the most K-STATEO thing in the entire world. Our athletic department would pretend we just won the NCAA tournament. They would make it seem like a bigger deal than winning the Big 12 last year. That's a pretty good reason to never want to win the NIT.
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If we win the NIT, it's going to be the most K-STATEO thing in the entire world. Our athletic department would pretend we just won the NCAA tournament. They would make it seem like a bigger deal than winning the Big 12 last year. That's a pretty good reason to never want to win the NIT.
It might be worth going to the NIT just to see our athletic department call us national champs. :D
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Also, can you guys imagine ERII the day that the bracket is announced. Going into the final bracket,
"Please don't say K-State, please don't say K-State, please don't say K-State."
"And number 10, out of Manhattan, KS, THE KANSAS STATE WILDCATS!!"
"ARE YOU EFFING KIDDING ME!! WE NEVER CATCH ANY BREAKS!""
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Here are the past 20 years NIT titles (since no one really remembers). Occasionally programs build off a good showing (Wichita State, Iowa recently), but the majority of teams did nothing of significance after their NIT run.
Year Champion Runner-up MVP
2013 Baylor Iowa
2012 Stanford Minnesota
2011 Wichita State Alabama
2010 Dayton North Carolina
2009 Penn State Baylor
2008 Ohio State Massachusetts
2007 West Virginia Clemson
2006 South Carolina Michigan
2005 South Carolina Saint Joseph's
2004 Michigan Rutgers
2003 St. John's Georgetown
2002 Memphis South Carolina
2001 Tulsa Alabama
2000 Wake Forest Notre Dame
1999 California Clemson
1998 Minnesota Penn State
1997 Michigan Florida State
1996 Nebraska Saint Joseph's
1995 Virginia Tech Marquette
1994 Villanova Vanderbilt
All that said, if this team falls to the NIT, I will follow it closely.
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i'm just, baffled by what is happening here.
Baylor won it last year (had to google, had no rough ridin' clue) and it's not really doing anything for them this year. there, one example, you're wrong.
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5, 10, 15 years down the road, no one remembers if you lost first round or second round, but they certainly will know you made the NCAA's that year. No one cares about winning some exhibition NIT dumpster fire.
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DUMBASS
So 15 years down the road, you're gonna take huge offense to the difference between losing to LaSalle first round or losing to 'Cuse 2nd round? Yeah okay, sure.
Yea, I will. I will never forget what our sleezeball athletic department did to Jamar.
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holy crap, Nebraska won the entire NIT in 1996 but has never won an NCAA game. lol.
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Also, can you guys imagine ERII the day that the bracket is announced. Going into the final bracket,
"Please don't say K-State, please don't say K-State, please don't say K-State."
"And number 10, out of Manhattan, KS, THE KANSAS STATE WILDCATS!!"
"ARE YOU EFFING KIDDING ME!! WE NEVER CATCH ANY BREAKS!""
:D
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i'm just, baffled by what is happening here.
Baylor won it last year (had to google, had no rough ridin' clue) and it's not really doing anything for them this year. there, one example, you're wrong.
The only reason I remember that Baylor won it last year is because they did exactly what Toolfan60 is describing above and it was a lulzfest. DO NOT WANT.
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Toolfan60
:lol: :confused:
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South Carolina won it back-to-back. :gocho: Frank took over an NIT monster! :D
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South Carolina won it back-to-back. :gocho: Frank took over an NIT monster! :D
I was actually agreeing with you for once and you had to go and do this.
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South Carolina won it back-to-back. :gocho: Frank took over an NIT monster! :D
I was actually agreeing with you for once and you had to go and do this.
:D :tongue:
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Why wouldn't you want to continue building a streak of consecutive NCAA appearances?
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Also, can you guys imagine ERII the day that the bracket is announced. Going into the final bracket,
"Please don't say K-State, please don't say K-State, please don't say K-State."
"And number 10, out of Manhattan, KS, THE KANSAS STATE WILDCATS!!"
"ARE YOU EFFING KIDDING ME!! WE NEVER CATCH ANY BREAKS!""
:lol:
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Also, can you guys imagine ERII the day that the bracket is announced. Going into the final bracket,
"Please don't say K-State, please don't say K-State, please don't say K-State."
"And number 10, out of Manhattan, KS, THE KANSAS STATE WILDCATS!!"
"ARE YOU EFFING KIDDING ME!! WE NEVER CATCH ANY BREAKS!""
:lol:
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don't care
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don't care
shocking
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kinda a weird argument since it's not possible for us to be in the ncaa play-in game, let alone lose it...
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edit, facepalm
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for a moment i thought that those were my lyndon tigers and got really excited.
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don't care
shocking
why?
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Tough day for our guy ERII:
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@mhkEMAW NCAA just because it looks good
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Tough day for our guy ERII:
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This is such a terrible talking point though.
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Anybody remember at the madness in Manhattan pep rally, the year after we won the wNIT, when Deb said "We're returning a National Championship Team" and everyone was just like "what on earth?"
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Anybody remember at the madness in Manhattan pep rally, the year after we won the wNIT, when Deb said "We're returning a National Championship Team" and everyone was just like "what on earth?"
You just know that oscar would use that talking point at next year's nut fry.
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Was the NIT game vs. DePaul the towniest game of all time?
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Was the NIT game vs. DePaul the towniest game of all time?
confirmed
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if the royals won the NIT, dayton would say that in a way we are national champions, and nobody could argue with him
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More likely to happen...We win 1 game in the NCAAs or 5 in the NIT? This team is more likely to make the S16 than win an NIT. Big Dance or bust.
:bball:
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if the royals won the NIT, dayton would say that in a way we are national champions, and nobody could argue with him
They wouldn't have to win the NIT. They would just have to narrowly miss making the NCAAs.
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More likely to happen...We win 1 game in the NCAAs or 5 in the NIT? This team is more likely to make the S16 than win an NIT. Big Dance or bust.
:bball:
this is a really good point. Winning the NIT ain't easy.
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Doesn't matter. The question posed was would you rather win the NIT or lose 1st round. I'm clearly on the right side of this argument and everyone else is stupid.
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Whenever I think of the winner of the NIT, I think of the 69th best team in college basketball.
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Whenever I think of the winner of the NIT, I think of the 69th best team in college basketball.
well that's not a very smart view.
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Lets be honest. If you don't win the whole thing it really doesn't even matter.
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Lets be honest. If you don't win the whole thing it really doesn't even matter.
:dubious:
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Man, I wish that 2010 team would have won the NIT instead of ending their season in the Elite 8. That would have been way more fun.
-ERII Logic
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Well it did save us from losing a crap ton of money like WSU did last year
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Well it did save us from losing a crap ton of money like WSU did last year
What?
I suppose you could say winning the NIT is really nice consolation for a disappointing season. Because if your school's name isn't called on selection Sunday, there is no doubt it's a disappointing season.
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If we win the NIT, it's going to be the most K-STATEO thing in the entire world. Our athletic department would pretend we just won the NCAA tournament. They would make it seem like a bigger deal than winning the Big 12 last year. That's a pretty good reason to never want to win the NIT.
I'd like to see this.
But yeah, you should want your team to be in the NCAA tournament.