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Title: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 20, 2014, 08:51:41 AM
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/headlines/20140118-as-wendy-davis-touts-life-story-in-race-for-governor-key-facts-blurred.ece (http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/headlines/20140118-as-wendy-davis-touts-life-story-in-race-for-governor-key-facts-blurred.ece)

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FORT WORTH — Wendy Davis has made her personal story of struggle and success a centerpiece of her campaign to become the first Democrat elected governor of Texas in almost a quarter-century.

While her state Senate filibuster last year captured national attention, it is her biography — a divorced teenage mother living in a trailer who earned her way to Harvard and political achievement — that her team is using to attract voters and boost fundraising.

The basic elements of the narrative are true, but the full story of Davis’ life is more complicated, as often happens when public figures aim to define themselves. In the shorthand version that has developed, some facts have been blurred.

Davis was 21, not 19, when she was divorced. She lived only a few months in the family mobile home while separated from her husband before moving into an apartment with her daughter.

A single mother working two jobs, she met Jeff Davis, a lawyer 13 years older than her, married him and had a second daughter. He paid for her last two years at Texas Christian University and her time at Harvard Law School, and kept their two daughters while she was in Boston. When they divorced in 2005, he was granted parental custody, and the girls stayed with him. Wendy Davis was directed to pay child support.

In an extensive interview last week, Davis acknowledged some chronological errors and incomplete details in what she and her aides have said about her life. “My language should be tighter,” she said. “I’m learning about using broader, looser language. I need to be more focused on the detail.”  :lol: :lol:

Apparently, Wendy left her second husband the day after he made the final tuition payment for her Harvard education.

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Jeff Davis said that was right around the time the final payment on their Harvard Law School loan was due. “It was ironic,” he said. “I made the last payment, and it was the next day she left.”

 :eek: :lol:
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 20, 2014, 08:58:54 AM
Too bad I don't live in Texas. I'd love to vote against her.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: 8manpick on January 20, 2014, 09:04:08 AM
2x hero, sounds like a total stud
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Institutional Control on January 20, 2014, 09:06:11 AM
Still better than Greg Abbott.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 20, 2014, 10:52:53 AM
A 13 year older lawyer should know the single mother with a kid is not marrying him.  She is marrying his money
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: 0.42 on January 20, 2014, 12:40:07 PM
Still better than Greg Abbott.

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 20, 2014, 12:51:42 PM
oh, someone running for political office is manipulative? interesting.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: ChiComCat on January 20, 2014, 01:00:08 PM
She only lived a few months in a mobile home :horrorsurprise:  I only vote for candidates that spend a solid year there.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: OK_Cat on January 20, 2014, 01:03:22 PM
the only thing she should have done differently was to leave the day before the final school payment.  then he'd be sad and then a big bill would show up.   :ROFL:
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 20, 2014, 01:07:00 PM
She bossed that guys face off
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 20, 2014, 01:34:41 PM
Admittedly, Wendy is pretty awesome. She's already worn a catheter to filibuster tighter abortion restrictions, lied about her background, lied under oath, married a husband for his money, and then divorced him after she didn't need the money anymore. I'm not sure what else she can do to enhance her liberal cred. Maybe drive a young intern into a lake and leave him for dead? Wendy has a bright future in the Democrat party!
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 20, 2014, 02:54:18 PM
I can't think of a politician I don't assume is a huge liar
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: bubbles4ksu on January 20, 2014, 03:02:11 PM
I can't think of a politician I don't assume is a huge liar
yeah but this one is a SLUT too so it's noteworthy for some
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 20, 2014, 03:10:54 PM
I can't think of a politician I don't assume is a huge liar

Everyone has flaws. Marrying for money and then getting divorced immediately after your final tuition bill is paid off is pretty low, though. So is going for a run right after a storm and suing a homeowner for $10 million because an oak tree falls on your dumb ass. Looks like Texas is going to get a real winner as their next governor.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: star seed 7 on January 20, 2014, 04:01:35 PM
What a slut whore bitch. She should be executed like all dumb slut whore bitches. Thanks for bringing this very important information to our attention ksu fucktard.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 20, 2014, 04:09:19 PM
I just went back and reviewed and, nope, never said or implied anything about Wendy being a "slut," nor do I care. I guess this is one of those "dog whistle" things? Libtards gonna libtard.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 20, 2014, 04:11:24 PM
I just went back and reviewed and, nope, never said or implied anything about Wendy being a "slut," nor do I care. I guess this is one of those "dog whistle" things? Libtards gonna libtard.

Yeah, she's clearly a bad person. I think you called it right.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Jackstack99EMAW on January 20, 2014, 04:18:09 PM
Has this board had the discussion of how incredibly stupid and unimaginative the word libtard is?  I mean if youre gonna try to insult someone, put some effort into it.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 20, 2014, 04:18:59 PM
Has this board had the discussion of how incredibly stupid and unimaginative the word libtard is?  I mean if youre gonna try to insult someone, put some effort into it.

Maybe use D-tard instead? :dunno:
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: ChiComCat on January 20, 2014, 05:41:29 PM
Trashing somebody that married for money in a profession where many men have trophy wives/cheat on their wives seems sexist to me.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: steve dave on January 20, 2014, 06:42:17 PM

Trashing somebody that married for money in a profession where many men have trophy wives/cheat on their wives seems sexist to me.

but abortions tho
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: DQ12 on January 20, 2014, 07:59:29 PM
I'm not sure what else she can do to enhance her liberal cred. Maybe drive a young intern into a lake and leave him for dead?
Now that's funny.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 20, 2014, 09:22:26 PM
This woman sounds like a genuine terrible human being, even for a politician.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 20, 2014, 09:23:07 PM
Trashing somebody that married for money in a profession where many men have trophy wives/cheat on their wives seems sexist to me.

Nah. John Kerry was ridiculed mercilessly for marrying into the Heinz ketchup fortune - as he should have been. At least John had the decency to not ditch Teresa just as soon as his tuition was paid.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 20, 2014, 09:23:48 PM

Trashing somebody that married for money in a profession where many men have trophy wives/cheat on their wives seems sexist to me.

but abortions tho

#libtard
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: ben ji on January 20, 2014, 09:32:52 PM
Since when is it wrong to marry into money? My pops gave me 3 "words" of advice when i left for college

1. Graduate in 4 years
2. Don't get arrested
3. Marry rich
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Jackstack99EMAW on January 20, 2014, 10:12:11 PM
lets try some new names for the conservatives to use to say mean things to liberals.  I'll start, Mad Libs.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 20, 2014, 10:16:20 PM
Since when is it wrong to marry into money? My pops gave me 3 "words" of advice when i left for college

1. Graduate in 4 years
2. Don't get arrested
3. Marry rich

Not wrong at all.  Just don't feed voters a story of boot strappery when you screwed some dude over to take care of you and your illegitimate kid
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: 8manpick on January 20, 2014, 11:39:36 PM
Since when is it wrong to marry into money? My pops gave me 3 "words" of advice when i left for college

1. Graduate in 4 years
2. Don't get arrested
3. Marry rich

Not wrong at all.  Just don't feed voters a story of boot strappery when you screwed some dude to take care of you and your illegitimate kid

Fyp
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 20, 2014, 11:46:50 PM
Since all politicians are liars and just all-around bad people, we need to expand the scope of government and trust them to care for us in every aspect of our lives.  :'bye cruel world:
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Brock Landers on January 21, 2014, 09:10:05 AM
This woman sounds like a genuine terrible human being, even for a politician.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 21, 2014, 09:22:14 AM
"hey bro, my 21 year old daughter who has a kid wants to date you"
 :dubious:
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: slobber on January 21, 2014, 09:24:56 AM
"hey bro, my 21 year old daughter who has a kid wants to date you"
 :dubious:
Trophy.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 21, 2014, 09:41:48 AM
"hey bro, my 21 year old daughter who has a kid wants to date you"
 :dubious:
Trophy.

Real trophies don't come with kids.  It's not hard to find a 21 year old trophy without some other dude's child
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: slobber on January 21, 2014, 09:47:45 AM
"hey bro, my 21 year old daughter who has a kid wants to date you"
 :dubious:
Trophy.

Real trophies don't come with kids.  It's not hard to find a 21 year old trophy without some other dude's child
Limestone, you don't get me, and that makes me sad, because I get you and I think we would be buds irl.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 21, 2014, 09:53:11 AM
"hey bro, my 21 year old daughter who has a kid wants to date you"
 :dubious:
Trophy.

Real trophies don't come with kids.  It's not hard to find a 21 year old trophy without some other dude's child
Limestone, you don't get me, and that makes me sad, because I get you and I think we would be buds irl.

I think I get you.  My reply was really just to point out this guy is a huge toolbag
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: slobber on January 21, 2014, 10:00:59 AM
"hey bro, my 21 year old daughter who has a kid wants to date you"
 :dubious:
Trophy.

Real trophies don't come with kids.  It's not hard to find a 21 year old trophy without some other dude's child
Limestone, you don't get me, and that makes me sad, because I get you and I think we would be buds irl.

I think I get you.  My reply was really just to point out this guy is a huge toolbag
:cheers: YOU GET ME!

My reply was to point out that this guy was a huge toolbag if he was going to marry a 21 year old with a kid when he was 35 and think that he was marrying a trophy wife and then he seemed shocked that she left him right after he finished paying for her education.

Conversely, she is probably an bad person as well (political affiliation having nothing to do with that).
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 21, 2014, 10:42:48 AM
The poor guy cashed in his 401(k) and took out a loan to finance Wendy's Harvard education, then took custody of her two daughters, one of whom was fathered by Wendy's first husband. Maybe he's a fool, a saint, or probably somewhere in between. But I think we can all agree that Wendy sure sounds like a great human being.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: slobber on January 21, 2014, 10:51:25 AM
The poor guy cashed in his 401(k) and took out a loan to finance Wendy's Harvard education, then took custody of her two daughters, one of whom was fathered by Wendy's first husband. Maybe he's a fool, a saint, or probably somewhere in between. But I think we can all agree that Wendy sure sounds like a great human being.
I think most people are just tired of the "Hey look at this <republican/democrat> and how much of an ass hat they are" talk. I mean, does her political affiliation bring anything to the table? Share the story about what an bad person she is and if somebody wants to know more about her, they can find it out on their own, or they will ask. To try to paint either party as bad based on one or two people seems stupid to me. That's my  :th_twocents:



FTR, if anyone isn't aware of it, I am extremely conservative, but I just don't post much in the dungeon because I don't think I will change your political views unless you want to change, and if you want to change you probably won't be looking here to do so.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: bubbles4ksu on January 21, 2014, 11:00:39 AM
I'm out of the loop. What kind of play is Wendy Davis getting versus Christie versus that brain dead pregnant woman that Texas law is keeping alive.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 21, 2014, 11:31:54 AM
Trashing somebody that married for money in a profession where many men have trophy wives/cheat on their wives seems sexist to me.

Nah. John Kerry was ridiculed mercilessly for marrying into the Heinz ketchup fortune - as he should have been. At least John had the decency to not ditch Teresa just as soon as his tuition was paid.

Why should he have been?
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 21, 2014, 11:36:46 AM
I'm out of the loop. What kind of play is Wendy Davis getting versus Christie versus that brain dead pregnant woman that Texas law is keeping alive.

It depends on where you go to get your news, really.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: ChiComCat on January 21, 2014, 04:41:31 PM
Waiting for the K-S-U Wildcat outrage thread on this

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/01/21/former-virginia-gov-robert-mcdonnell-faces-charges-over-gifts/?hpt=hp_t1
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 21, 2014, 06:20:24 PM
If we're gonna muck this up with other bad person politicians this belongs here as well:

All vets are mentally ill in some way and government should prevent them from owning firearms.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: bubbles4ksu on January 21, 2014, 06:35:15 PM
If we're gonna muck this up with other bad person politicians this belongs here as well:

All vets are mentally ill in some way and government should prevent them from owning firearms.
you luked yourself, dumbass.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 21, 2014, 06:41:08 PM
Bubbles,

Come sit on my lap and I'll explain the significance of putting the word "as" immediately before the word "well" in a statement.

Your Daddy,
Sugar Dick
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: 8manpick on January 21, 2014, 06:44:39 PM
The poor guy cashed in his 401(k) and took out a loan to finance Wendy's Harvard education, then took custody of her two daughters, one of whom was fathered by Wendy's first husband. Maybe he's a fool, a saint, or probably somewhere in between. But I think we can all agree that Wendy sure sounds like a great human being.
I think most people are just tired of the "Hey look at this <republican/democrat> and how much of an ass hat they are" talk. I mean, does her political affiliation bring anything to the table? Share the story about what an bad person she is and if somebody wants to know more about her, they can find it out on their own, or they will ask. To try to paint either party as bad based on one or two people seems stupid to me. That's my  :th_twocents:



FTR, if anyone isn't aware of it, I am extremely conservative, but I just don't post much in the dungeon because I don't think I will change your political views unless you want to change, and if you want to change you probably won't be looking here to do so.

I think I'd enjoy talking politics with you Dobbs. Be in Manhattan for Labor Day weekend. TIA
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: bubbles4ksu on January 21, 2014, 06:54:10 PM
Bubbles,

Come sit on my lap and I'll explain the significance of putting the word "as" immediately before the word "well" in a statement.

Your Daddy,
Sugar Dick
i loathe feinstein, but your post was worthless in both places. can you provide a link or some context or is that just what sean and rush were saying earlier?
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 21, 2014, 06:59:17 PM
It should be noted that Wendy Davis is an abortion zealot and the only reason anyone knows who the eff she is was because she was made a hero by left for her "fearless" filibuster of some pro life law while wearing pink tennis shoes.  So, while to find out she is a liar and awful human being is unsurprising, her political affiliation is relevant as its the only reason her phony story was even news to begin with.

Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 21, 2014, 07:02:22 PM
Bubbles,

Come sit on my lap and I'll explain the significance of putting the word "as" immediately before the word "well" in a statement.

Your Daddy,
Sugar Dick
i loathe feinstein, but your post was worthless in both places. can you provide a link or some context or is that just what sean and rush were saying earlier?

Well, its certainly relevant in the anti civil liberty anti gun pro police state thread.  And also relevant in what's arguably become become the "meh, all politicians are bad people thread"

But to answer your question:  the LA Times and she said it on the record at a congressional hearing
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: 8manpick on January 21, 2014, 07:24:15 PM
Well I mean being a zealot isn't good, but I appreciate her standing up for her beliefs on abortion
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 22, 2014, 10:18:33 AM
Handicapped candidates cause all sorts of problems for political campaigns...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/sns-rt-us-usa-texas-davis-20140121,0,4838257.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/sns-rt-us-usa-texas-davis-20140121,0,4838257.story)

Davis's response to the outcry over her fudged biography:

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We’re not surprised by Greg Abbott’s campaign attacks on the personal story of my life as a single mother who worked hard to get ahead. But they won’t work, because my story is the story of millions of Texas women who know the strength it takes when you’re young, alone and a mother. I’ve always been open about my life not because my story is unique, but because it isn’t.

The truth is that at age 19, I was a teenage mother living alone with my daughter in a trailer and struggling to keep us afloat on my way to a divorce. And I knew then that I was going to have to work my way up and out of that life if I was going to give my daughter a better life and a better future and that’s what I’ve done. I am proud of where I came from and I am proud of what I’ve been able to achieve through hard work and perseverance. And I guarantee you that anyone who tries to say otherwise hasn’t walked a day in my shoes.

I bet Abbott would love to walk a day in Davis's shoes.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsacurrent.com%2Fpolopoly_fs%2F1.1521232%21%2FfileImage%2FhttpImage%2Fimage.jpg_gen%2Fderivatives%2Flandscape_804%2Fimage.jpg&hash=35d8b406ffe3c85dc2b92dbc3bb8bf965d34d8e8)
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: michigancat on January 22, 2014, 10:35:23 AM
LMAO, K-S-U trying to tug at our heartstrings.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 22, 2014, 11:22:41 AM
She's a total loser and user.  :buh-bye:
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 22, 2014, 12:47:22 PM
The wheelchair is the only reason Abbott has gotten to where he is, though. If he doesn't go for a run under a decaying oak tree and that tree doesn't fall on him, he doesn't get to sue the landowner for $10 million, and he likely never gets into politics.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 22, 2014, 12:59:20 PM
The wheelchair is the only reason Abbott has gotten to where he is, though. If he doesn't go for a run under a decaying oak tree and that tree doesn't fall on him, he doesn't get to sue the landowner for $10 million, and he likely never gets into politics.

Wow, a tree fell on him? That sucks. Davis should really roll a mile in Abbott's chair before accusing him of calling her fake bio into question.

I just thought her choice of words (let's be honest, some campaign flack's choice of words) was kinda funny. Reminds me of a certain Joe Biden moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2mzbuRgnI4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2mzbuRgnI4)  :lol:
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 22, 2014, 01:16:57 PM
Hard working guy, suing wealthy landowners for acts of god.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 22, 2014, 01:26:40 PM
This one's for you, Wendy Davis: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/01/22/statement-president-roe-v-wade-anniversary (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/01/22/statement-president-roe-v-wade-anniversary)

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Statement by the President on Roe v. Wade Anniversary

Today, as we reflect on the 41st anniversary of the Supreme Court decision in Roe v. Wade, we recommit ourselves to the decision’s guiding principle: that every woman should be able to make her own choices about her body and her health.  We reaffirm our steadfast commitment to protecting a woman’s access to safe, affordable health care and her constitutional right to privacy, including the right to reproductive freedom.  [We'll recommit ourselves to it, but we won't actually use the word "abortion" anywhere in this statement, 'cause, you know, the less we have to actually think about what "reproductive freedom" actually entails, the better.] And we resolve to reduce the number of unintended pregnancies, support maternal and child health, and continue to build safe and healthy communities for all our children. [Except for the 55 million or so that have been aborted since RvW.] Because this is a country where everyone [except unborn babies, even the viable ones] deserves the same freedom and opportunities to fulfill their dreams.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 22, 2014, 04:17:53 PM
I bet the insurance paid the $10M, not the rich landowner.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: star seed 7 on January 22, 2014, 06:03:28 PM
i figured out what ksu fucktard is confused about.  he thinks unborn babies are people, and they aren't.  maybe he won't be so confused anymore.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 22, 2014, 06:13:33 PM
i figured out what ksu fucktard is confused about.  he thinks unborn babies are people, and they aren't.  maybe he won't be so confused anymore.

So a perfectly viable baby is not a "person" entitled to protections until it clears the birth canal? Seems like an awfully arbitrary line without a logical basis that would lead to monstrous results (think Gosnell).

Perhaps a better line would be to confer personhood when one is capable of rational thought. You still wouldn't qualify.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 22, 2014, 06:23:52 PM
Unborn fetuses are without a doubt living human organisms, and I view abortion as highly immoral. However, as fetuses are not yet members of society, I don't view abortion as a threat to society. I am firmly against the government legislating morality, so I lean toward abortion being legal. Who am I to judge? Abortion is definitely one of the issues that I can actually somewhat sympathize with the hard line, borderline extremists of the right wing, though.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 22, 2014, 06:40:04 PM
Unborn fetuses are without a doubt living human organisms, and I view abortion as highly immoral. However, as fetuses are not yet members of society, I don't view abortion as a threat to society. I am firmly against the government legislating morality, so I lean toward abortion being legal. Who am I to judge? Abortion is definitely one of the issues that I can actually somewhat sympathize with the hard line, borderline extremists of the right wing, though.

So it's not a threat to society, just to the unborn (or partially born) babies. I'm a little confused about your "society" argument though. Again, seems arbitrary to say that you don't join society until youre out of the birth canal, and I'm not sure how being a part of "society" really matters.

Murder affects those who are murdered. Abortion affects those who are aborted. Of course both murder and abortion have indirect victims too, so I'm still not seeing your "society" distinction.

As for the "who am I to judge" position, when viable babies are killed in the womb or after being partially delivered feet first (sever the spine, burn the skin away with a saline solution, inject the heart - take your pick), I judge. I'm perfectly comfortable judging that to be an abomination.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 22, 2014, 06:51:22 PM
Unborn fetuses are without a doubt living human organisms, and I view abortion as highly immoral. However, as fetuses are not yet members of society, I don't view abortion as a threat to society. I am firmly against the government legislating morality, so I lean toward abortion being legal. Who am I to judge? Abortion is definitely one of the issues that I can actually somewhat sympathize with the hard line, borderline extremists of the right wing, though.

So it's not a threat to society, just to the unborn (or partially born) babies. I'm a little confused about your "society" argument though. Again, seems arbitrary to say that you don't join society until youre out of the birth canal, and I'm not sure how being a part of "society" really matters.

Murder affects those who are murdered. Abortion affects those who are aborted. Of course both murder and abortion have indirect victims too, so I'm still not seeing your "society" distinction.

As for the "who am I to judge" position, when viable babies are killed in the womb or after being partially delivered feet first (sever the spine, burn the skin away with a saline solution, inject the heart - take your pick), I judge. I'm perfectly comfortable judging that to be an abomination.

As I said, I definitely view it to be wrong. I just don't believe in setting up laws and sentences with the goal of punishing people who I believe to be immoral. I believe in jailing those who have proven themselves to be threats to society, and I just don't think people who get abortions qualify.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: star seed 7 on January 22, 2014, 06:59:33 PM
Unborn fetuses are without a doubt living human organisms, and I view abortion as highly immoral. However, as fetuses are not yet members of society, I don't view abortion as a threat to society. I am firmly against the government legislating morality, so I lean toward abortion being legal. Who am I to judge? Abortion is definitely one of the issues that I can actually somewhat sympathize with the hard line, borderline extremists of the right wing, though.

So it's not a threat to society, just to the unborn (or partially born) babies. I'm a little confused about your "society" argument though. Again, seems arbitrary to say that you don't join society until youre out of the birth canal, and I'm not sure how being a part of "society" really matters.

Murder affects those who are murdered. Abortion affects those who are aborted. Of course both murder and abortion have indirect victims too, so I'm still not seeing your "society" distinction.

As for the "who am I to judge" position, when viable babies are killed in the womb or after being partially delivered feet first (sever the spine, burn the skin away with a saline solution, inject the heart - take your pick), I judge. I'm perfectly comfortable judging that to be an abomination.

they aren't people.  and generally an abortion is for the best.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 22, 2014, 07:22:41 PM
Unborn fetuses are without a doubt living human organisms, and I view abortion as highly immoral. However, as fetuses are not yet members of society, I don't view abortion as a threat to society. I am firmly against the government legislating morality, so I lean toward abortion being legal. Who am I to judge? Abortion is definitely one of the issues that I can actually somewhat sympathize with the hard line, borderline extremists of the right wing, though.

So it's not a threat to society, just to the unborn (or partially born) babies. I'm a little confused about your "society" argument though. Again, seems arbitrary to say that you don't join society until youre out of the birth canal, and I'm not sure how being a part of "society" really matters.

Murder affects those who are murdered. Abortion affects those who are aborted. Of course both murder and abortion have indirect victims too, so I'm still not seeing your "society" distinction.

As for the "who am I to judge" position, when viable babies are killed in the womb or after being partially delivered feet first (sever the spine, burn the skin away with a saline solution, inject the heart - take your pick), I judge. I'm perfectly comfortable judging that to be an abomination.

they aren't people.  and generally an abortion is for the best.

I disagree with that wholeheartedly.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Institutional Control on January 22, 2014, 07:39:38 PM
Who knew so many people cared about Texas politics?

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Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: ChiComCat on January 24, 2014, 02:19:04 PM
I don't get how Repubs want people to have the baby but do not want to provide social services for it.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 24, 2014, 02:30:00 PM
I don't get how Repubs want people to have the baby but do not want to provide social services for it.

That has always been the parent's responsibility. Not sure when it changed to government responsibility  :dunno:
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 24, 2014, 03:11:16 PM
I don't get how Repubs want people to have the baby but do not want to provide social services for it.

That has always been the parent's responsibility. Not sure when it changed to government responsibility  :dunno:

But I can see ChiCat's point. Because Republicans don't want to expand entitlements any more than they already are to take care of people kids, they're hypocrites for wanting to restrict the ability to kill them. Damned hypocrites. :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 24, 2014, 03:39:50 PM
Unborn fetuses are without a doubt living human organisms, and I view abortion as highly immoral. However, as fetuses are not yet members of society, I don't view abortion as a threat to society. I am firmly against the government legislating morality, so I lean toward abortion being legal. Who am I to judge? Abortion is definitely one of the issues that I can actually somewhat sympathize with the hard line, borderline extremists of the right wing, though.

So it's not a threat to society, just to the unborn (or partially born) babies. I'm a little confused about your "society" argument though. Again, seems arbitrary to say that you don't join society until youre out of the birth canal, and I'm not sure how being a part of "society" really matters.

Murder affects those who are murdered. Abortion affects those who are aborted. Of course both murder and abortion have indirect victims too, so I'm still not seeing your "society" distinction.

As for the "who am I to judge" position, when viable babies are killed in the womb or after being partially delivered feet first (sever the spine, burn the skin away with a saline solution, inject the heart - take your pick), I judge. I'm perfectly comfortable judging that to be an abomination.

they aren't people.  and generally an abortion is for the best.

Serious question: At what point in the pregnancy do you believe they become people?
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: star seed 7 on January 24, 2014, 03:56:36 PM
When you are born. Obviously there are situations that might not follow that, but it's a good general rule.

How about you?
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on January 24, 2014, 04:09:14 PM
Serious question: At what point in the pregnancy do you believe they become people?

7 months
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 24, 2014, 04:16:59 PM
When you are born. Obviously there are situations that might not follow that, but it's a good general rule.

How about you?

well, I would say when they start to show brain activity which is at about 3 months. I also think that's long enough to make a decision whether to keep it or not.

What would be your time limit on abortion?
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: star seed 7 on January 24, 2014, 04:20:20 PM
That's a tough question. My heart and head are at odds.

7ish months seems like a decent compromise
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: massofcatfan on January 24, 2014, 04:33:46 PM
Serious question: At what point in the pregnancy do you believe they become people?

7 months

8.5 years of age
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: ChiComCat on January 24, 2014, 04:44:54 PM
I don't get how Repubs want people to have the baby but do not want to provide social services for it.

That has always been the parent's responsibility. Not sure when it changed to government responsibility  :dunno:

Some parents aren't capable and thus have the abortion.  Over half of the people that have an abortion are low income.  A much higher percentage are unmarried.  Between generally being low income and not having a second income to help, if these people have kids they are most likely going to need government assistance.  If people want to say an innocent baby dying is terrible and outlaw it, fine.  They should also recognize that an innocent baby being born into a crap life and not having opportunity because of crap parents is terrible.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 24, 2014, 05:58:02 PM
I don't get how Repubs want people to have the baby but do not want to provide social services for it.

That has always been the parent's responsibility. Not sure when it changed to government responsibility  :dunno:

Some parents aren't capable and thus have the abortion.  Over half of the people that have an abortion are low income.  A much higher percentage are unmarried.  Between generally being low income and not having a second income to help, if these people have kids they are most likely going to need government assistance.  If people want to say an innocent baby dying is terrible and outlaw it, fine.  They should also recognize that an innocent baby being born into a crap life and not having opportunity because of crap parents is terrible.

I'd rather pay for free government vasectomies and hysterectomies than abortions.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Tobias on January 24, 2014, 09:08:04 PM
sounds expensive
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 24, 2014, 09:31:14 PM
sounds expensive

You only need to do it once.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: star seed 7 on January 25, 2014, 03:32:34 AM
sounds expensive

You only need to do it once.

hey, everyone get a look at this tax and spend liberal!
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 25, 2014, 11:44:33 AM
sounds expensive

You only need to do it once.

hey, everyone get a look at this tax and spend liberal!

It's a consequence of being a true moderate. Attacked from both sides.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 25, 2014, 02:51:55 PM
A little fudge there, a little mis-speak here, it's all okay though:  She's a Democrat

Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 25, 2014, 03:31:39 PM
A little fudge there, a little mis-speak here, it's all okay though:  She's a Democrat

Wonder if she's native American, too?
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 25, 2014, 10:07:53 PM
A little fudge there, a little mis-speak here, it's all okay though:  She's a Democrat

Wonder if she's native American, too?

Unfortunately for Wendy, she's not running in Massahussets. Elizabeth Fauxcahontas Warren basically needed a pulse and a (D) after name.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: star seed 7 on January 25, 2014, 11:40:07 PM
A little fudge there, a little mis-speak here, it's all okay though:  She's a Democrat

Wonder if she's native American, too?

Unfortunately for Wendy, she's not running in Massahussets. Elizabeth Fauxcahontas Warren basically needed a pulse and a (D) after name.

interesting since she replaced a guy with (R) after his name.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 26, 2014, 12:50:05 AM
A little fudge there, a little mis-speak here, it's all okay though:  She's a Democrat

Wonder if she's native American, too?

Unfortunately for Wendy, she's not running in Massahussets. Elizabeth Fauxcahontas Warren basically needed a pulse and a (D) after name.

I don't even think lying to a school about your ethnicity even qualifies as a character flaw, honestly. Good for her on that one.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: ednksu on January 26, 2014, 02:07:07 AM
That's a tough question. My heart and head are at odds.

7ish months seems like a decent compromise
By the way at that age the fetus can recognize their parent's voices and are already learning language. 


Easy solution to the abortion question: Let the gblt community have a crack, the pill dispensed in coin op gumball machines, and de-stigmatizing adoption as an option.


To the Texas issue, the walk a mile in my shoes comment is brilliant, the aide who wrote that speech is going places. 
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 26, 2014, 08:36:29 AM
You can hear the MSM Sunday morning talk shows now if the commentary were reversed.   The outrage...


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Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 26, 2014, 01:58:41 PM
You can hear the MSM Sunday morning talk shows now if the commentary were reversed.   The outrage...


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I doubt they would cover this much. They are really only still talking about Christie because he wants to be president.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Headinjun on January 27, 2014, 01:13:18 AM
A little fudge there, a little mis-speak here, it's all okay though:  She's a Democrat

Wonder if she's native American, too?

There's a great possibility that she does have Indian lineage considering her birth in Oklahoma.

Not all people of Native American ancestry are red faces and dark hair. There  are a large number of white people throughout the Midwest  who have mixed genetics and  are non registered.

Her story is believable.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 27, 2014, 06:28:39 AM
A little fudge there, a little mis-speak here, it's all okay though:  She's a Democrat

Wonder if she's native American, too?

There's a great possibility that she does have Indian lineage considering her birth in Oklahoma.

Not all people of Native American ancestry are red faces and dark hair. There  are a large number of white people throughout the Midwest  who have mixed genetics and  are non registered.

Her story is believable.

Yes, if you're willing to just forgo some highly relevant details and facts the story is extremely "believable". 
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: OregonSmock on January 27, 2014, 09:47:39 AM
In the world of the right wing herd, everyone who leans left of center loves Wendy Davis. 
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 27, 2014, 10:48:10 AM
In the world of the right wing herd, everyone who leans left of center loves Wendy Davis.

But the left leaners won't come out and say why the don't love her. Toe the liberal line, beems.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 27, 2014, 10:51:52 AM
In the world of the right wing herd, everyone who leans left of center loves Wendy Davis.

But the left leaners won't come out and say why the don't love her. Toe the liberal line, beems.

Yeah, she seems like a pretty bad person. I wouldn't expect many lefties to turn on her, though, just like I don't expect much of the right wing to turn on Christie.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 27, 2014, 10:57:26 AM
In the world of the right wing herd, everyone who leans left of center loves Wendy Davis.

But the left leaners won't come out and say why the don't love her. Toe the liberal line, beems.

Yeah, she seems like a pretty bad person. I wouldn't expect many lefties to turn on her, though, just like I don't expect much of the right wing to turn on Christie.

I think Christie gets the benefit of the doubt until there is at least one piece of evidence that he set up the traffic jam. That's one thing you have to respect about the right.  The left is "guilty until proven innocent".
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 27, 2014, 11:00:03 AM
In the world of the right wing herd, everyone who leans left of center loves Wendy Davis.

But the left leaners won't come out and say why the don't love her. Toe the liberal line, beems.

Yeah, she seems like a pretty bad person. I wouldn't expect many lefties to turn on her, though, just like I don't expect much of the right wing to turn on Christie.

I think Christie gets the benefit of the doubt until there is at least one piece of evidence that he set up the traffic jam. That's one thing you have to respect about the right.  The left is "guilty until proven innocent".

He's not on trial. If I don't believe him, that's all it takes for me to stop liking him.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 27, 2014, 11:17:25 AM
In the world of the right wing herd, everyone who leans left of center loves Wendy Davis.

But the left leaners won't come out and say why the don't love her. Toe the liberal line, beems.

Yeah, she seems like a pretty bad person. I wouldn't expect many lefties to turn on her, though, just like I don't expect much of the right wing to turn on Christie.

I think Christie gets the benefit of the doubt until there is at least one piece of evidence that he set up the traffic jam. That's one thing you have to respect about the right.  The left is "guilty until proven innocent".

Besides the emails of his right hand administrator setting up the traffic jams?
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: ChiComCat on January 27, 2014, 11:31:45 AM
Not a big Wendy Davis fan and don't hate her.  I think the filibuster was good to prevent state laws trying to undercut Roe v Wade but by and large not a huge deal for me.  Don't know anything else about her but I don't care if she lived in a mobile home for 8 months or a year or whatever.  I don't imagine it would make a difference for me if any politician did.  I don't care that she married a guy way older who paid for her college, as I think most male politicians do just as bad if not worse.  Doesn't endear me to her at all, but I don't care that she did it.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 27, 2014, 12:02:03 PM
In the world of the right wing herd, everyone who leans left of center loves Wendy Davis.

But the left leaners won't come out and say why the don't love her. Toe the liberal line, beems.

Yeah, she seems like a pretty bad person. I wouldn't expect many lefties to turn on her, though, just like I don't expect much of the right wing to turn on Christie.

I think Christie gets the benefit of the doubt until there is at least one piece of evidence that he set up the traffic jam. That's one thing you have to respect about the right.  The left is "guilty until proven innocent".

Besides the emails of his right hand administrator setting up the traffic jams?

She was fired for doing that. I'm not naive, but if they're smart enough to not have a paper or electronic trail, he gets the benefit of the doubt, just like Obama. The problem Obama has is he didn't fire anybody, indicating he may be afraid they would implicate him.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: ChiComCat on January 27, 2014, 12:10:05 PM
In the world of the right wing herd, everyone who leans left of center loves Wendy Davis.

But the left leaners won't come out and say why the don't love her. Toe the liberal line, beems.

Yeah, she seems like a pretty bad person. I wouldn't expect many lefties to turn on her, though, just like I don't expect much of the right wing to turn on Christie.

I think Christie gets the benefit of the doubt until there is at least one piece of evidence that he set up the traffic jam. That's one thing you have to respect about the right.  The left is "guilty until proven innocent".

Besides the emails of his right hand administrator setting up the traffic jams?

She was fired for doing that. I'm not naive, but if they're smart enough to not have a paper or electronic trail, he gets the benefit of the doubt, just like Obama. The problem Obama has is he didn't fire anybody, indicating he may be afraid they would implicate him.

No way the president fears firing someone will get him implicated.  All these aides in politics know their job is to fall on the sword.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: OregonSmock on January 27, 2014, 12:33:41 PM
In the world of the right wing herd, everyone who leans left of center loves Wendy Davis.

But the left leaners won't come out and say why the don't love her. Toe the liberal line, beems.


Why would anyone outside of Texas spend any time discussing Wendy Davis?  From what I've gathered in this thread, she's just another lying, POS politician. 
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: sys on January 27, 2014, 12:36:52 PM
There's a great possibility that she does have Indian lineage considering her birth in Oklahoma.

Not all people of Native American ancestry are red faces and dark hair. There  are a large number of white people throughout the Midwest  who have mixed genetics and  are non registered.

Her story is believable.

i don't think her (warren) story is believable (in its whole, it's believable that she thought she had cherokee ancestry), and i do think that it reflects on her character that she tried to claim herself as native american, presumably in order to gain favorable placement for employment.

at the same time, it annoys me that the media swallowed the cherokee mafia's assertion that your ancestors were other listed on the rolls and then you're a cherokee, or they weren't, and then you're not.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 27, 2014, 12:57:35 PM
There's a great possibility that she does have Indian lineage considering her birth in Oklahoma.

Not all people of Native American ancestry are red faces and dark hair. There  are a large number of white people throughout the Midwest  who have mixed genetics and  are non registered.

Her story is believable.

i don't think her (warren) story is believable (in its whole, it's believable that she thought she had cherokee ancestry), and i do think that it reflects on her character that she tried to claim herself as native american, presumably in order to gain favorable placement for employment.

at the same time, it annoys me that the media swallowed the cherokee mafia's assertion that your ancestors were other listed on the rolls and then you're a cherokee, or they weren't, and then you're not.

I think Harvard is the real culprit in this story in that they used her to bolster their appearance of having a more diverse faculty simply based on her thinking she may be part Cherokee. She is obviously very Caucasian and would have never been singled out or discriminated against as a minority. She was a useful tool towards their liberal cause, and she played along.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 27, 2014, 01:14:47 PM
In the world of the right wing herd, everyone who leans left of center loves Wendy Davis.

But the left leaners won't come out and say why the don't love her. Toe the liberal line, beems.

Yeah, she seems like a pretty bad person. I wouldn't expect many lefties to turn on her, though, just like I don't expect much of the right wing to turn on Christie.

I think Christie gets the benefit of the doubt until there is at least one piece of evidence that he set up the traffic jam. That's one thing you have to respect about the right.  The left is "guilty until proven innocent".

Besides the emails of his right hand administrator setting up the traffic jams?

She was fired for doing that. I'm not naive, but if they're smart enough to not have a paper or electronic trail, he gets the benefit of the doubt, just like Obama. The problem Obama has is he didn't fire anybody, indicating he may be afraid they would implicate him.

He may get your benefit of the doubt, but he isn't getting the majority BOTD.  He screwed some of his constituents over a petty political ploy and got caught.  That's the risk you run.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: 0.42 on January 27, 2014, 01:22:18 PM
A lying Wendy Davis would still be a better governor than an honest Greg Abbott tho.

Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 27, 2014, 01:23:15 PM
Even if Christie knew nothing at all about the traffic jam (I think he most likely knew everything), he hired those who created it, and they wouldn't have done it if they didn't think he would approve. Christie obviously has the type of personality and creates the type of work environment where these guys thought they would just stop traffic and then go pound some brews with Christie and laugh about the whole thing.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 27, 2014, 01:24:37 PM
Even if Christie knew nothing at all about the traffic jam (I think he most likely knew everything), he hired those who created it, and they wouldn't have done it if they didn't think he would approve. Christie obviously has the type of personality and creates the type of work environment where these guys thought they would just stop traffic and then go pound some brews with Christie and laugh about the whole thing.

Indeed.  He has shown he is awful at hiring people, can't be trusted.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 27, 2014, 01:27:01 PM
A lying Wendy Davis would still be a better governor than an honest Greg Abbott tho.

All politicians are liars. Wendy marrying some guy and cashing in his 401k to pay for her education, then divorcing him as soon as she graduated is what makes her a bad person, imo. I really don't know much about Abbott.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 27, 2014, 01:29:56 PM
A lying Wendy Davis would still be a better governor than an honest Greg Abbott tho.

Probably a racist.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 27, 2014, 01:34:34 PM
A lying Wendy Davis would still be a better governor than an honest Greg Abbott tho.

Probably a racist.

You'd be afraid of ebony, too, if a tree fell on you. :nono:
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Institutional Control on January 27, 2014, 01:36:12 PM
A lying Wendy Davis would still be a better governor than an honest Greg Abbott tho.

All politicians are liars. Wendy marrying some guy and cashing in his 401k to pay for her education, then divorcing him as soon as she graduated is what makes her a bad person, imo. I really don't know much about Abbott.

You shouldn't be so bitter about that, her ex-husband isn't'.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/01/22/ex-husband-wendy-davis-would-be-a-very-capable-governor/

Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: 0.42 on January 27, 2014, 01:39:36 PM
A lying Wendy Davis would still be a better governor than an honest Greg Abbott tho.

Probably a racist.

Yes, because Texas Republicans are bastions of racial tolerance.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 27, 2014, 01:41:06 PM
A lying Wendy Davis would still be a better governor than an honest Greg Abbott tho.

All politicians are liars. Wendy marrying some guy and cashing in his 401k to pay for her education, then divorcing him as soon as she graduated is what makes her a bad person, imo. I really don't know much about Abbott.

You shouldn't be so bitter about that, her ex-husband isn't'.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/01/22/ex-husband-wendy-davis-would-be-a-very-capable-governor/

He probably still loves her, and that is clouding his judgement.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 27, 2014, 01:44:39 PM
A lying Wendy Davis would still be a better governor than an honest Greg Abbott tho.

All politicians are liars. Wendy marrying some guy and cashing in his 401k to pay for her education, then divorcing him as soon as she graduated is what makes her a bad person, imo. I really don't know much about Abbott.

You shouldn't be so bitter about that, her ex-husband isn't'.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/01/22/ex-husband-wendy-davis-would-be-a-very-capable-governor/

You don't burn bridges with the possible governor. He might make some of his money back.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 27, 2014, 02:14:58 PM
A lying Wendy Davis would still be a better governor than an honest Greg Abbott tho.

Probably a racist.

Yes, because Texas Republicans are bastions of racial tolerance.

His wife is Mexican.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Mr Bread on January 27, 2014, 03:07:26 PM
"hey bro, my 21 year old daughter who has a kid wants to date you"
 :dubious:
Trophy.

Real trophies don't come with kids.  It's not hard to find a 21 year old trophy without some other dude's child

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.culturemap.com%2Fcrop%2F1a%2F11%2F600x450%2FWendy-Davis-Harvard-Law-yearbook-Spring-1991_142422.jpg&hash=d8ba63d69f6d41e6492f721d3337b9ac029fe8f5)
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 27, 2014, 03:10:22 PM
The guy she married wasn't wealthy. That's why he had to cash in his 401k to pay for her school. Some people just buy their trophies at the flea market.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: EMAWmeister on January 27, 2014, 03:49:52 PM
Even if Christie knew nothing at all about the traffic jam (I think he most likely knew everything), he hired those who created it, and they wouldn't have done it if they didn't think he would approve. Christie obviously has the type of personality and creates the type of work environment where these guys thought they would just stop traffic and then go pound some brews with Christie and laugh about the whole thing.

The reason I blame Christie for this is because he created an environment and fostered a culture where this type of thing is okay.  It's just like how Obama and his staff have created a culture where targeting conservative groups is okay until we run into things like the IRS scandal
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: sys on January 27, 2014, 04:28:53 PM
I think Harvard is the real culprit in this story in that they used her to bolster their appearance of having a more diverse faculty simply based on her thinking she may be part Cherokee. She is obviously very Caucasian and would have never been singled out or discriminated against as a minority. She was a useful tool towards their liberal cause, and she played along.

i don't agree.  harvard merely reported the information that was given to them.  warren knowingly provided false information.  additionally, whatever benefit that accrued to harvard for appearing to have a slightly more diverse workforce than they actually had, was slight to nil.  on the other hand, it's possible that warren received employment opportunities that would not have otherwise been available to her.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 27, 2014, 06:12:48 PM
I think Harvard is the real culprit in this story in that they used her to bolster their appearance of having a more diverse faculty simply based on her thinking she may be part Cherokee. She is obviously very Caucasian and would have never been singled out or discriminated against as a minority. She was a useful tool towards their liberal cause, and she played along.

i don't agree.  harvard merely reported the information that was given to them.  warren knowingly provided false information.  additionally, whatever benefit that accrued to harvard for appearing to have a slightly more diverse workforce than they actually had, was slight to nil.  on the other hand, it's possible that warren received employment opportunities that would not have otherwise been available to her.

She claims she told them after she was already hired and didn't know they were claiming she was a minority faculty member. Universities are strange in that they put as much emphasis on diversity as they do academics. Uber libs are a strange subset of society.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 27, 2014, 06:22:59 PM
In the world of the right wing herd, everyone who leans left of center loves Wendy Davis.

But the left leaners won't come out and say why the don't love her. Toe the liberal line, beems.


Why would anyone outside of Texas spend any time discussing Wendy Davis?  From what I've gathered in this thread, she's just another lying, POS politician.

Granted you're a moron and a fool, but haven't you also gathered she's running for governor of Texas? Not exactly an obscure political position.

Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: sys on January 27, 2014, 06:39:48 PM
She claims she told them after she was already hired and didn't know they were claiming she was a minority faculty member.

i didn't know that.  i don't believe the latter, but i suppose i should look into the matter more before i blithely impugn her character.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 27, 2014, 06:55:26 PM
She claims she told them after she was already hired and didn't know they were claiming she was a minority faculty member.

i didn't know that.  i don't believe the latter, but i suppose i should look into the matter more before i blithely impugn her character.

It's OK, she doesn't have a lot of character to impugn. She went ahead an published a book of native American recipes knowing she was less than 1/32 Cherokee at the very most.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: michigancat on January 27, 2014, 07:44:49 PM
When I think uber-liberal, I think Harvard. :lol:
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 28, 2014, 08:21:46 AM
She claims she told them after she was already hired and didn't know they were claiming she was a minority faculty member.

i didn't know that.  i don't believe the latter, but i suppose i should look into the matter more before i blithely impugn her character.

It's OK, she doesn't have a lot of character to impugn. She went ahead an published a book of native American recipes knowing she was less than 1/32 Cherokee at the very most.

Why does that matter? I'd love to learn how to cook Indian food and publish an Indian cookbook.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Kat Kid on January 29, 2014, 09:04:08 PM
When I think uber-liberal, I think Harvard. :lol:

Books!  Learnin!  Ivory Towers!  LIBS!
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Kat Kid on January 29, 2014, 09:09:03 PM
Incomplete list of people that I know personally that went to Harvard:

Berkshire-Hathaway analyst/exec
Bain Capital exec
Corporate lawyer
Women's Studies Professor
Entrepreneur
Newspaper men
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 29, 2014, 09:21:54 PM
She claims she told them after she was already hired and didn't know they were claiming she was a minority faculty member.

i didn't know that.  i don't believe the latter, but i suppose i should look into the matter more before i blithely impugn her character.

It's OK, she doesn't have a lot of character to impugn. She went ahead an published a book of native American recipes knowing she was less than 1/32 Cherokee at the very most.

Why does that matter? I'd love to learn how to cook Indian food and publish an Indian cookbook.

Maybe you could write a book about how difficult it was being a slave and then take a black guy's NAACP scholarship you obtuse half wit
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 29, 2014, 10:17:12 PM
She claims she told them after she was already hired and didn't know they were claiming she was a minority faculty member.

i didn't know that.  i don't believe the latter, but i suppose i should look into the matter more before i blithely impugn her character.

It's OK, she doesn't have a lot of character to impugn. She went ahead an published a book of native American recipes knowing she was less than 1/32 Cherokee at the very most.

Why does that matter? I'd love to learn how to cook Indian food and publish an Indian cookbook.

Maybe you could write a book about how difficult it was being a slave and then take a black guy's NAACP scholarship you obtuse half wit

You don't have to be Cherokee to cook Cherokee, dumbass.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 29, 2014, 10:50:58 PM
Cherokee or Indian, you racist nitwit?

Lying about your heritage to advance your career is about as bad as it gets. Elizabeth Warren is a sociopath
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 30, 2014, 08:13:35 AM
Cherokee or Indian, you racist nitwit?

Lying about your heritage to advance your career is about as bad as it gets. Elizabeth Warren is a sociopath

Warren did a Cherokee cookbook. I've never had that, though. I like Indian food. Indian from India, to be clear. The fact that lying about your heritage can actually advance your career is far worse than actually lying about your heritage, imo, but you are probably just more liberal than me, so I'll let it go.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Institutional Control on January 30, 2014, 08:34:02 AM
I've got a pretty good recipe for enchiladas. I'm not Mexican so I'll keep it to myself.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 30, 2014, 08:37:36 AM
Do you use flour tortillas or corn?
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Institutional Control on January 30, 2014, 08:39:21 AM
Do you use flour tortillas or corn?

Corn.

#imasociopath
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 30, 2014, 08:41:02 AM
Do you use flour tortillas or corn?

Corn.

#imasociopath

Well, maybe if you go back far enough, you are actually part Mexican. I think you should share the recipe.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 31, 2014, 08:21:18 AM
Krauthammer gets it. http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-how-to-debunk-the-war-on-women/2014/01/30/73151f4a-89d6-11e3-916e-e01534b1e132_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-how-to-debunk-the-war-on-women/2014/01/30/73151f4a-89d6-11e3-916e-e01534b1e132_story.html)
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: slucat on January 31, 2014, 09:05:54 AM
Krauthammer gets it. http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-how-to-debunk-the-war-on-women/2014/01/30/73151f4a-89d6-11e3-916e-e01534b1e132_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-how-to-debunk-the-war-on-women/2014/01/30/73151f4a-89d6-11e3-916e-e01534b1e132_story.html)

I can't look at that guy, he reminds me of a creepier version of count chocula.  If he comes on TV, I'm outta the room.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 31, 2014, 09:45:12 AM
Krauthammer gets it. http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-how-to-debunk-the-war-on-women/2014/01/30/73151f4a-89d6-11e3-916e-e01534b1e132_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-how-to-debunk-the-war-on-women/2014/01/30/73151f4a-89d6-11e3-916e-e01534b1e132_story.html)

I can't look at that guy, he reminds me of a creepier version of count chocula.  If he comes on TV, I'm outta the room.

He remind me of the Cryptkeeper, but he's also brilliant.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: ChiComCat on January 31, 2014, 06:47:55 PM
Krauthammer gets it. http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-how-to-debunk-the-war-on-women/2014/01/30/73151f4a-89d6-11e3-916e-e01534b1e132_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-how-to-debunk-the-war-on-women/2014/01/30/73151f4a-89d6-11e3-916e-e01534b1e132_story.html)

That they should challenge her based on her political views and not meticulously attacking small inconsistencies in her biography?  Because if you agree, I have to question what the point of this whole rough ridin' thread was.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 31, 2014, 07:45:08 PM
Krauthammer gets it. http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-how-to-debunk-the-war-on-women/2014/01/30/73151f4a-89d6-11e3-916e-e01534b1e132_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-how-to-debunk-the-war-on-women/2014/01/30/73151f4a-89d6-11e3-916e-e01534b1e132_story.html)

That they should challenge her based on her political views and not meticulously attacking small inconsistencies in her biography?  Because if you agree, I have to question what the point of this whole rough ridin' thread was.

I think I see where you're getting confused. There's a difference between political strategy a party/campaign should follow and what is posted on an internet message board. Wendy's a fraud, and the more potent political attack is to focus on the monstrous nature of her filibuster.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: star seed 7 on January 31, 2014, 07:47:08 PM
Krauthammer gets it. http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-how-to-debunk-the-war-on-women/2014/01/30/73151f4a-89d6-11e3-916e-e01534b1e132_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-how-to-debunk-the-war-on-women/2014/01/30/73151f4a-89d6-11e3-916e-e01534b1e132_story.html)

That they should challenge her based on her political views and not meticulously attacking small inconsistencies in her biography?  Because if you agree, I have to question what the point of this whole rough ridin' thread was.

I think I see where you're getting confused. There's a difference between political strategy a party/campaign should follow and what is posted on an internet message board. Wendy's a fraud, and the more potent political attack is to focus on the monstrous nature of her filibuster.

lol
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: ChiComCat on January 31, 2014, 08:38:15 PM
Krauthammer gets it. http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-how-to-debunk-the-war-on-women/2014/01/30/73151f4a-89d6-11e3-916e-e01534b1e132_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-how-to-debunk-the-war-on-women/2014/01/30/73151f4a-89d6-11e3-916e-e01534b1e132_story.html)

That they should challenge her based on her political views and not meticulously attacking small inconsistencies in her biography?  Because if you agree, I have to question what the point of this whole rough ridin' thread was.

I think I see where you're getting confused. There's a difference between political strategy a party/campaign should follow and what is posted on an internet message board. Wendy's a fraud, and the more potent political attack is to focus on the monstrous nature of her filibuster.

Multiple responses to the State of the Union shows that right's political strategy is basically letting everyone post as though on a message board, though I would agree on focusing on issues
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 28, 2014, 03:21:05 PM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/28/planned_parenthood_president_when_life_begins_not_relevant_to_conversation.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/28/planned_parenthood_president_when_life_begins_not_relevant_to_conversation.html)
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 28, 2014, 04:34:42 PM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/28/planned_parenthood_president_when_life_begins_not_relevant_to_conversation.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/28/planned_parenthood_president_when_life_begins_not_relevant_to_conversation.html)

I didn't watch the video, but the headline is pretty much right. People aren't arguing over when life begins so much as when rights begin.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on February 28, 2014, 05:31:20 PM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/28/planned_parenthood_president_when_life_begins_not_relevant_to_conversation.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/28/planned_parenthood_president_when_life_begins_not_relevant_to_conversation.html)

I didn't watch the video, but the headline is pretty much right. People aren't arguing over when life begins so much as when rights begin.

She said "for her life begins at birth".  This is really the only answer she can give without laying in bed at night wondering if she an accessory to millions of murders. It has to be a difficult position to defend without sounding like an uncaring monster.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 01, 2014, 02:16:18 PM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/28/planned_parenthood_president_when_life_begins_not_relevant_to_conversation.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/28/planned_parenthood_president_when_life_begins_not_relevant_to_conversation.html)

I didn't watch the video, but the headline is pretty much right. People aren't arguing over when life begins so much as when rights begin.

She said "for her life begins at birth".  This is really the only answer she can give without laying in bed at night wondering if she an accessory to millions of murders. It has to be a difficult position to defend without sounding like an uncaring monster.

We don't lose sleep over millions of people who die around the world from illness/starvation/war because they aren't a part of our society. Why should the unborn be any different? They are clearly alive, in my scientific opinion.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 01, 2014, 02:19:37 PM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/28/planned_parenthood_president_when_life_begins_not_relevant_to_conversation.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/28/planned_parenthood_president_when_life_begins_not_relevant_to_conversation.html)

I didn't watch the video, but the headline is pretty much right. People aren't arguing over when life begins so much as when rights begin.

She said "for her life begins at birth".  This is really the only answer she can give without laying in bed at night wondering if she an accessory to millions of murders. It has to be a difficult position to defend without sounding like an uncaring monster.

We don't lose sleep over millions of people who die around the world from illness/starvation/war because they aren't a part of our society. Why should the unborn be any different? They are clearly alive, in my scientific opinion.

Exactly, we can't pass laws reducing war around the world, just like we can't pass laws reducing abortion. Exactly.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 01, 2014, 02:21:32 PM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/28/planned_parenthood_president_when_life_begins_not_relevant_to_conversation.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/28/planned_parenthood_president_when_life_begins_not_relevant_to_conversation.html)

I didn't watch the video, but the headline is pretty much right. People aren't arguing over when life begins so much as when rights begin.

She said "for her life begins at birth".  This is really the only answer she can give without laying in bed at night wondering if she an accessory to millions of murders. It has to be a difficult position to defend without sounding like an uncaring monster.

We don't lose sleep over millions of people who die around the world from illness/starvation/war because they aren't a part of our society. Why should the unborn be any different? They are clearly alive, in my scientific opinion.

Exactly, we can't pass laws reducing war around the world, just like we can't pass laws reducing abortion. Exactly.

I never said that we can't pass laws. We probably shouldn't, though. Less government involvement in people's lives is a good thing, and the people that abortion laws would target really aren't threats to society in need of incarceration.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 01, 2014, 02:36:31 PM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/28/planned_parenthood_president_when_life_begins_not_relevant_to_conversation.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/28/planned_parenthood_president_when_life_begins_not_relevant_to_conversation.html)

I didn't watch the video, but the headline is pretty much right. People aren't arguing over when life begins so much as when rights begin.

She said "for her life begins at birth".  This is really the only answer she can give without laying in bed at night wondering if she an accessory to millions of murders. It has to be a difficult position to defend without sounding like an uncaring monster.

We don't lose sleep over millions of people who die around the world from illness/starvation/war because they aren't a part of our society. Why should the unborn be any different? They are clearly alive, in my scientific opinion.

Exactly, we can't pass laws reducing war around the world, just like we can't pass laws reducing abortion. Exactly.

I never said that we can't pass laws. We probably shouldn't, though. Less government involvement in people's lives is a good thing, and the people that abortion laws would target really aren't threats to society in need of incarceration.

No, I agree with you - the less government involvement in people's lives (as long as you've been born, anyway), the better. Totally agree. Of course, if you haven't been born yet, you'd probably appreciate a little more protection, but minor point. Minor point.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 01, 2014, 06:08:33 PM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/28/planned_parenthood_president_when_life_begins_not_relevant_to_conversation.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/28/planned_parenthood_president_when_life_begins_not_relevant_to_conversation.html)

I didn't watch the video, but the headline is pretty much right. People aren't arguing over when life begins so much as when rights begin.

She said "for her life begins at birth".  This is really the only answer she can give without laying in bed at night wondering if she an accessory to millions of murders. It has to be a difficult position to defend without sounding like an uncaring monster.

We don't lose sleep over millions of people who die around the world from illness/starvation/war because they aren't a part of our society. Why should the unborn be any different? They are clearly alive, in my scientific opinion.

Exactly, we can't pass laws reducing war around the world, just like we can't pass laws reducing abortion. Exactly.

I never said that we can't pass laws. We probably shouldn't, though. Less government involvement in people's lives is a good thing, and the people that abortion laws would target really aren't threats to society in need of incarceration.

No, I agree with you - the less government involvement in people's lives (as long as you've been born, anyway), the better. Totally agree. Of course, if you haven't been born yet, you'd probably appreciate a little more protection, but minor point. Minor point.

You aren't a citizen until you are born, and as a non-citizen, you really shouldn't expect government protections.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 01, 2014, 09:14:10 PM
So, rage, in your mind partial birth abortion must be premeditated murder then. That seems logical.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 02, 2014, 12:40:19 AM
So, rage, in your mind partial birth abortion must be premeditated murder then. That seems logical.

Morally, there really isn't much difference between abortion and murder. I really don't believe in legislating morality and setting laws up that only serve to punish people, though. People who go get abortions really aren't a threat to anybody other than their future children, and imprisoning these people for murder will make those children every bit as nonexistent as future abortions would.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 02, 2014, 07:09:21 AM
Yeah, but in a "partial" birth abortion the doctor delivers the baby then cuts his head off. So the baby is born for a short period of time. I cant believe this is even allowed, but Wendy Davis tho
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 02, 2014, 07:19:48 AM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/28/planned_parenthood_president_when_life_begins_not_relevant_to_conversation.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/02/28/planned_parenthood_president_when_life_begins_not_relevant_to_conversation.html)

I didn't watch the video, but the headline is pretty much right. People aren't arguing over when life begins so much as when rights begin.

She said "for her life begins at birth".  This is really the only answer she can give without laying in bed at night wondering if she an accessory to millions of murders. It has to be a difficult position to defend without sounding like an uncaring monster.

We don't lose sleep over millions of people who die around the world from illness/starvation/war because they aren't a part of our society. Why should the unborn be any different? They are clearly alive, in my scientific opinion.

Exactly, we can't pass laws reducing war around the world, just like we can't pass laws reducing abortion. Exactly.

I never said that we can't pass laws. We probably shouldn't, though. Less government involvement in people's lives is a good thing, and the people that abortion laws would target really aren't threats to society in need of incarceration.

No, I agree with you - the less government involvement in people's lives (as long as you've been born, anyway), the better. Totally agree. Of course, if you haven't been born yet, you'd probably appreciate a little more protection, but minor point. Minor point.

You aren't a citizen until you are born, and as a non-citizen, you really shouldn't expect government protections.

Again, just an excellent point. Our government provides no protections to non citizens. Can't argue that.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 02, 2014, 07:26:37 AM
So, rage, in your mind partial birth abortion must be premeditated murder then. That seems logical.

Morally, there really isn't much difference between abortion and murder. I really don't believe in legislating morality and setting laws up that only serve to punish people, though. People who go get abortions really aren't a threat to anybody other than their future children, and imprisoning these people for murder will make those children every bit as nonexistent as future abortions would.

Exactly. We shouldn't legislate morality, and there isn't much difference between abortion and murder. Really pisses me off that we have all this legislation against murder. Government ought to mind its own business and not legislate morality.

Also, I agree it makes me sooooo mad that abortion opponents want to imprison women getting abortions - as opposed to the doctors performing them.

Also, I agree there's really no practical difference between abortion and someone not getting pregnant. Either way, no kid, amiright?
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 02, 2014, 01:07:27 PM
So, rage, in your mind partial birth abortion must be premeditated murder then. That seems logical.

Morally, there really isn't much difference between abortion and murder. I really don't believe in legislating morality and setting laws up that only serve to punish people, though. People who go get abortions really aren't a threat to anybody other than their future children, and imprisoning these people for murder will make those children every bit as nonexistent as future abortions would.

Exactly. We shouldn't legislate morality, and there isn't much difference between abortion and murder. Really pisses me off that we have all this legislation against murder. Government ought to mind its own business and not legislate morality.

Also, I agree it makes me sooooo mad that abortion opponents want to imprison women getting abortions - as opposed to the doctors performing them.

Also, I agree there's really no practical difference between abortion and someone not getting pregnant. Either way, no kid, amiright?

Better to have lived and been aborted than to have never lived at all.

I realize that we basically just imprison people in this country as punishment for things that we perceive as immoral, and that is largely why our penal system is among the worst in the civilized world. Murderers should be imprisoned because they have proven that they are capable of killing others and it is somewhat likely that they will do it again. People getting or performing abortions pose no threat to others in society, and I think that those others should just practice what they preach and leave the judgment to god.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 03, 2014, 11:27:32 AM
Russia would think twice about invading Crimea if Wendy would STFU
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Institutional Control on March 03, 2014, 11:38:49 AM
Russia would think twice about invading Crimea if Wendy would STFU

I think I missed Wendy's comments about Crimea.  Could sway me to Greg Abbott.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Institutional Control on March 03, 2014, 11:39:34 AM
Russia would think twice about invading Crimea if Wendy would STFU

I think I missed Wendy's comments about Crimea.  Could sway me to Greg Abbott.

JK, I will never vote for Abbott.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 29, 2014, 09:04:39 AM
More proof that radical outlets like NARAL aren't just "pro choice" - they're "pro abortion."

http://thehill.com/policy/technology/204571-google-removes-anti-abortion-ads-after-pressure (http://thehill.com/policy/technology/204571-google-removes-anti-abortion-ads-after-pressure)
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: star seed 7 on April 29, 2014, 09:20:38 AM
lol
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 29, 2014, 01:33:10 PM
Cong. Tim Huelskamp ?@CongHuelskamp  20h
Google caves to pro-aborts and their allies #ProLife pic.twitter.com/exkMyFo4RS
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Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 29, 2014, 02:08:00 PM
More proof that radical outlets like NARAL aren't just "pro choice" - they're "pro abortion."

http://thehill.com/policy/technology/204571-google-removes-anti-abortion-ads-after-pressure (http://thehill.com/policy/technology/204571-google-removes-anti-abortion-ads-after-pressure)

What kind of monster would try to convince a woman not to have an abortion? Just awful human beings.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 11, 2014, 09:09:26 PM
Abortion Hero Wendy sinks lower. Hard to believe. http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/wendy-davis-greg-abbott-wheelchair-ad-111783.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/wendy-davis-greg-abbott-wheelchair-ad-111783.html)
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: renocat on October 11, 2014, 11:04:46 PM
When this ripper wore a catheter to fight against abortion resrictions did it clog up and back up piss into her brain.  Verbally attackimg this guy in a wheel chair  and blaming him for others not getting help is low for even Texas.   Proaboters want abortion to be treated like a medical procedure, so be it.  We restrict medical procedures all of the time such as doctors can't castrate winos for testical transplants.  This woman started on the low fruit level of the nut tree, and has fallen to the ground where dung beetles live.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 12, 2014, 12:00:48 PM
That ad was a lot more truthful than most political ads.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 12, 2014, 02:38:08 PM
That ad was a lot more truthful than most political ads.

Abbott is a lawyer that does lawyer stuff. Not a hypocrite.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: star seed 7 on October 12, 2014, 03:43:19 PM
Why did obama ban wino castration?
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 12, 2014, 04:50:24 PM
That ad was a lot more truthful than most political ads.

Abbott is a lawyer that does lawyer stuff. Not a hypocrite.

He definitely is a hypocrite, and I don't think he has a leg to stand on.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 12, 2014, 09:29:06 PM
That ad was a lot more truthful than most political ads.

Abbott is a lawyer that does lawyer stuff. Not a hypocrite.

He definitely is a hypocrite, and I don't think he has a leg to stand on.

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Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 12, 2014, 10:10:52 PM
That ad is abhorrent, even for an abortion zealot
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 12, 2014, 11:11:02 PM
It's amazing to me that any political consultant thought that ad would be a good idea. It's almost as if she knows the race is over, she's still got some money to burn, and just thought "well, eff it, and eff him."
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 12, 2014, 11:18:50 PM
It's amazing to me that any political consultant thought that ad would be a good idea. It's almost as if she knows the race is over, she's still got some money to burn, and just thought "well, eff it, and eff him."

I thought the ad was par for the course. Is it bad because Abbott is crippled?
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Institutional Control on October 13, 2014, 07:37:06 AM
What's wrong with the ad? Was Abbott not hit by a tree? I thought he was.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 13, 2014, 03:16:22 PM
Wendy responds to blow back over wheelchair ad... https://twitter.com/WILLisms/status/521696362359193600/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/WILLisms/status/521696362359193600/photo/1)

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 13, 2014, 04:31:46 PM
Looks like she is just doubling down on it. She isn't as good at spinning in circles as Abbott, apparently.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 13, 2014, 10:20:21 PM
Wendy responds to blow back over wheelchair ad... https://twitter.com/WILLisms/status/521696362359193600/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/WILLisms/status/521696362359193600/photo/1)

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

What an embarrassment
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Spracne on October 13, 2014, 10:30:10 PM
Eh, I think good move. The people who are pissed are people who wouldnt vote for her anyway. Their reaction has created a lot of buzz, and the hypocrisy charge will stick with many people because most people dont understand law. Of course a crip AG should decide in favor of other crips without regard for the facts of the case and legal precedents. Duh.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 13, 2014, 10:36:51 PM
Watch out for that tree! :lol:
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 13, 2014, 10:39:09 PM
Eh, I think good move. The people who are pissed are people who wouldnt vote for her anyway. Their reaction has created a lot of buzz, and the hypocrisy charge will stick with many people because most people dont understand law. Of course a crip AG should decide in favor of other crips without regard for the facts of the case and legal precedents. Duh.

I don't think feeding on ignorance is a "good move"
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Spracne on October 13, 2014, 10:40:21 PM
Eh, I think good move. The people who are pissed are people who wouldnt vote for her anyway. Their reaction has created a lot of buzz, and the hypocrisy charge will stick with many people because most people dont understand law. Of course a crip AG should decide in favor of other crips without regard for the facts of the case and legal precedents. Duh.

I don't think feeding on ignorance is a "good move"
This is a joke, right?
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 13, 2014, 10:40:46 PM
Eh, I think good move. The people who are pissed are people who wouldnt vote for her anyway. Their reaction has created a lot of buzz, and the hypocrisy charge will stick with many people because most people dont understand law. Of course a crip AG should decide in favor of other crips without regard for the facts of the case and legal precedents. Duh.

I don't think feeding on ignorance is a "good move"

Well, it certainly seems to be the basic strategy of every political campaign ever run.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Institutional Control on October 14, 2014, 11:29:38 AM
http://youtu.be/foGE_s1Wq1M

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Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Spracne on October 14, 2014, 03:31:05 PM
That's the only ad ole' Greg needed to run.  He could have done nothing at all up until this point, then ran that spot and won easily.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 14, 2014, 09:57:23 PM
That's the only ad ole' Greg needed to run.  He could have done nothing at all up until this point, then ran that spot and won easily.

Obama is such a dumpster fire, any way to tie your opponent to him is kryptonite.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Spracne on October 14, 2014, 09:58:33 PM
That's the only ad ole' Greg needed to run.  He could have done nothing at all up until this point, then ran that spot and won easily.

Obama is such a dumpster fire, any way to tie your opponent to him is kryptonite.
Well, I was referring specifically to politics in Texas.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 14, 2014, 09:59:52 PM
That's the only ad ole' Greg needed to run.  He could have done nothing at all up until this point, then ran that spot and won easily.

Obama is such a dumpster fire, any way to tie your opponent to him is kryptonite.
Well, I was referring specifically to politics in Texas.

I wasn't
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: renocat on November 04, 2014, 10:00:21 PM
Wonder Witch , hater of wheelchair republicans and darling of abortion supporters - is a loooooser and lost her election.  Dang some Texans still are okay.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 04, 2014, 10:23:06 PM
Her career is over. One less lunatic in the public eye
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Kat Kid on November 04, 2014, 11:03:24 PM
Whoa, you are telling me that a Republican won the Texas Governor race?
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2014, 06:32:04 AM
Oh yeah, because history has shown us again and again that a Dem can't win the governorship in Texas.   :jerk:



Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Kat Kid on November 05, 2014, 07:24:26 AM
Oh yeah, because history has shown us again and again that a Dem can't win the governorship in Texas.   :jerk:

Was the last Texas democrat in Texas unseated by George W. Bush?  I since LBJ "los[ing] the South for a generation" not sure what you are trying to say.  I think we are entering an era of no statewide Democrats in the South until further notice.  Florida and the upper coastal (NC, Virginia) are the only exceptions.
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 05, 2014, 08:19:32 AM
When was the last time there was a republican governor in Maryland or a republican senator in Montana? This was a blood bath.

The outrage and denial from the resident libtards is so childish and cute.

The NYT calling the Kansas governor election a referendum on conservative policy (experiment?). Wonder how they'll explain away losses in leftist strongholds (experiments?), particularly the president's own state.

Word on the street is that the dems haven't been beaten this badly since Gettysburg
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on November 05, 2014, 08:30:31 AM
The NYT calling the Kansas governor election a referendum on conservative policy (experiment?).

Something tells me the NYT is going to change their tune on that, right quick. It will be something more along the lines of "deep red Kansas, midterm favoring Republican turnout, Davis was a weak candidate, etc., etc." - and that will actually be much closer to the mark. :lol:
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on November 05, 2014, 11:17:14 AM
Can't believe I overlooked this. Sandra Fluke, whose entire platform seemed to be "you need to pay for my birth control" was trounced yesterday in her CA state senate race.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/05/sandra-fluke-champion-for-free-birth-control-also-lost-on-tuesday/ (http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/05/sandra-fluke-champion-for-free-birth-control-also-lost-on-tuesday/)

Sorry Sandra...

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.tvgcdn.net%2FMediaBin%2FContent%2F140120%2FNews%2F7_sun%2Fthumbs%2F140124mag-lena-dunham-girls1_300x206.jpg&hash=25ed691410922c0b0ceaa6b5c74ab0ac3a780f07)
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Tobias on November 05, 2014, 11:48:09 AM
one of my favorite things about politics is how much neocons get enraged about the fact that lena dunham exists :love:
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: EMAWmeister on November 05, 2014, 12:35:26 PM
one of my favorite things about politics is how much neocons get enraged about the fact that lena dunham exists :love:

Can I hate Lena Dunham without being a neocon?
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 05, 2014, 12:47:53 PM
one of my favorite things about politics is how much neocons get enraged about the fact that lena dunham exists :love:

Everyone should be upset about her being naked on their TV screen. It just isn't right.   :sdeek:
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: star seed 7 on November 05, 2014, 12:59:36 PM
'bias, have you seen that one neocon blog that is claiming lena molested her infant sister? Very  :sdeek: + :lol:
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 05, 2014, 01:11:28 PM
Wendy Davis is a subhuman. Don't know who Lena Dunham is
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on November 05, 2014, 01:11:35 PM
I'm disappointed nobody fell for the Lena Dunham picture. She and Sandra Fluke do look like twins, no?
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Tobias on November 05, 2014, 01:33:08 PM
well, they are both white chicks
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: Tobias on November 05, 2014, 01:33:29 PM
'bias, have you seen that one neocon blog that is claiming lena molested her infant sister? Very  :sdeek: + :lol:

omg link plz
Title: Re: Wendy Davis: Liberal Hero, Abortion Hero (but I repeat myself), Liar
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on November 05, 2014, 01:42:23 PM
'bias, have you seen that one neocon blog that is claiming lena molested her infant sister? Very  :sdeek: + :lol:

omg link plz

I had to google it because I had no idea what seven was talking about. It's pretty gross, not unlike Ms. Dunham herself. I wouldn't describe what Dunham did, as a kid herself, as molestation, but to later write about it in graphic detail as an adult is repulsive.