Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on January 16, 2014, 09:23:06 PM
Post by: EMAWmeister on January 16, 2014, 09:34:42 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on January 16, 2014, 09:37:48 PM
http://rocksmith.ubi.com/rocksmith/en-US/home/index.aspx
Post by: bones129 on January 16, 2014, 10:10:33 PM
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on January 16, 2014, 10:11:10 PM
I was thinking about learning to play the acoustic guitar just for a hobby. I'm just wondering if anyone here plays guitar and how long did it take you to learn? I plan on learning by myself, because eff paying for lessons.
'meister taught me to be pretty decent in under 10, 1 hour lessons last summer. It was a great way to begin and all he asked for was a 6-pack at our last lesson. Should pm him, I'm sure he's willing to help out.
Post by: Tobias on January 16, 2014, 10:16:04 PM
Post by: Diamond Dave on January 16, 2014, 11:16:21 PM
I've wondered for a long time if this works.
http://rocksmith.ubi.com/rocksmith/en-US/home/index.aspx
I have this and it is awesome if you want to learn the songs in the games or the ones you can purchase. However, in terms of reading music, scales and such, it's not all that's much help. It works for me because I'm not very interested in writing and composing my own music. I'm more into covering songs as a hobby. I guess it ultimately depends on what exactly you're looking to get out of it.
Post by: mocat on January 16, 2014, 11:26:55 PM
Post by: 8manpick on January 16, 2014, 11:33:08 PM
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on January 17, 2014, 02:33:39 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 17, 2014, 03:15:32 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on January 17, 2014, 03:28:29 AM
i'll teach you to play drums.
:Woot:
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 17, 2014, 03:30:07 AM
Post by: mocat on January 17, 2014, 06:58:49 AM
Post by: XocolateThundarr on January 17, 2014, 08:48:03 AM
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 17, 2014, 12:22:53 PM
ya I'm in college guys, but I only have one year left after this year.
congrats on almost graduating, Luke! youre going to hate the real world. it sucks ass.
Post by: AzagthothForKSU on January 17, 2014, 12:30:30 PM
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Post by: Asteriskhead on January 17, 2014, 12:33:12 PM
ya I'm in college guys, but I only have one year left after this year.
congrats on almost graduating, Luke! youre going to hate the real world. it sucks ass.
he could pull a metalhead and go to grad school because he isn't ready to grow up quite yet.
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on January 17, 2014, 12:45:15 PM
this might be me :excited:ya I'm in college guys, but I only have one year left after this year.
congrats on almost graduating, Luke! youre going to hate the real world. it sucks ass.
he could pull a metalhead and go to grad school because he isn't ready to grow up quite yet.
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 17, 2014, 12:58:43 PM
this might be me :excited:ya I'm in college guys, but I only have one year left after this year.
congrats on almost graduating, Luke! youre going to hate the real world. it sucks ass.
he could pull a metalhead and go to grad school because he isn't ready to grow up quite yet.
it's really not a strategy that I recommend. but, like, TRIM3:16, man
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on January 17, 2014, 01:23:28 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 17, 2014, 01:26:47 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on January 17, 2014, 08:51:13 PM
ya I'm in college guys, but I only have one year left after this year.
congrats on almost graduating, Luke! youre going to hate the real world. it sucks ass.
he could pull a metalhead and go to grad school because he isn't ready to grow up quite yet.
oh man, wait till he hears about the seven strategy!
Post by: CHONGS on January 17, 2014, 09:45:24 PM
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Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on June 08, 2014, 08:52:25 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 08, 2014, 08:59:50 PM
So, update on my learning guitar. I'm shredding Wonderwall by Oasis now and started learning Even if It Breaks Your Heart by the Eli Young Band the other day. I've pretty much been slaying bitches with this thing.
Insert the name of a babe into Wonderwall.
"So maybe...... Alison's the one who'll save me...... And after all, Alison's my Wonderwall...."
Works like you would not believe.
Post by: Tobias on December 10, 2014, 11:51:09 PM
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 14, 2025, 09:30:20 AM
ANYWAY here's my sitch. I'm kinda hitting a point where i'm getting a little frustrated. The songs I've been practicing the most i haven't been making much progress and its discouraging. A couple of examples, the (second, longer) solo from My Sharona. The solo at the end of Black Dog.
my instructor gave me some good advice he says to me he says "i know you're frustrated but its important to remember that you actually do know how to play the guitar, you should just bring in a couple songs that are a little easier" and he suggested Mother by Pink Floyd (absolutely beautiful solo, btw)
so anyway, i'm soliciting recommendos on songs i should learn that are a little more mid level (unless you think the songs i've mentioned above are mid level, in which case beginner level). i realize i probably should have just pm'd mocat and/or spracs (is he still here? i miss that dude) but i'm also curious the suggestions from folks on this blog who like music but don't necessarily know whether or not its technically challenging to play.
if it matters, i'm married and almost 40, so like, droppin panties isn't the top priority here. Don't get me wrong if its a panty dropper that's outstanding, but my objective here is to push through this rut and to start feeling like i'm making gains. No genres off limits. Would prefer stuff that isn't strictly acoustic, mostly b/c in the last year i bought a couple hot POA Gibson Les Paul solid body electrics and they are set up real nice by a professional luthier and my acoustic is old and cheap and most definitely needs the strings changed and i don't feel like messing with any of that right now.
TIA, fellow rockers and music-enjoyers!
Post by: Stupid Fitz on February 14, 2025, 09:46:52 AM
man, so many good threads to bump it was hard to choose which one.
ANYWAY here's my sitch. I'm kinda hitting a point where i'm getting a little frustrated. The songs I've been practicing the most i haven't been making much progress and its discouraging. A couple of examples, the (second, longer) solo from My Sharona. The solo at the end of Black Dog.
my instructor gave me some good advice he says to me he says "i know you're frustrated but its important to remember that you actually do know how to play the guitar, you should just bring in a couple songs that are a little easier" and he suggested Mother by Pink Floyd (absolutely beautiful solo, btw)
so anyway, i'm soliciting recommendos on songs i should learn that are a little more mid level (unless you think the songs i've mentioned above are mid level, in which case beginner level). i realize i probably should have just pm'd mocat and/or spracs (is he still here? i miss that dude) but i'm also curious the suggestions from folks on this blog who like music but don't necessarily know whether or not its technically challenging to play.
if it matters, i'm married and almost 40, so like, droppin panties isn't the top priority here. Don't get me wrong if its a panty dropper that's outstanding, but my objective here is to push through this rut and to start feeling like i'm making gains. No genres off limits. Would prefer stuff that isn't strictly acoustic, mostly b/c in the last year i bought a couple hot POA Gibson Les Paul solid body electrics and they are set up real nice by a professional luthier and my acoustic is old and cheap and most definitely needs the strings changed and i don't feel like messing with any of that right now.
TIA, fellow rockers and music-enjoyers!
Can't help you but am curious. I've been saying for like 3 years that i'm going to go to a music store and buy a guitar and try and teach myself. Probably just an acoustic and learn some songs. Mainly a "I am about to stab everything in the winter" type thing. Just something to do and feed my brain a bit. I have never played and don't know how to read music. Is this a terrible idea? I'm not opposed to taking a lesson, but i'm wondering how much harder it will be to learn from online/youtube classes coming from scratch. If it wasn't obvious, i'm not trying to get a gig at a coffee shop or anything, just a new project to attach and connect some neurons.
Post by: mocat on February 14, 2025, 09:57:47 AM
that said, i'm not much of a lead player; are you only looking for solos/lead parts to learn, or songs in general?
Post by: mocat on February 14, 2025, 10:00:36 AM
Post by: Stupid Fitz on February 14, 2025, 10:10:28 AM
stupid fitz, what's stopping you? go learn some chords and see if it sparks something in you!
Good point. I think mainly that I don't want to try and it be too difficult for me so i give up. I know that's stupid. I'm not really the give up type, but i'm worried I won't have the time.
Post by: mocat on February 14, 2025, 10:21:44 AM
stupid fitz, what's stopping you? go learn some chords and see if it sparks something in you!
Good point. I think mainly that I don't want to try and it be too difficult for me so i give up. I know that's stupid. I'm not really the give up type, but i'm worried I won't have the time.
if your fingers are unable to make chord shapes and it ends up not going anywhere, you will have lost nothing and gained a new life experience. and maybe one of your kids or spouse or friend picks it up and takes a liking to it.
also as another encouragement, you absolutely do not have to know how to read music, and i would say the majority of guitar players are self-taught. and while of course there are certain techniques you can learn, there is no right or wrong way to play. you just do what sounds good to your own ears.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on February 14, 2025, 11:12:42 AM
stupid fitz, what's stopping you? go learn some chords and see if it sparks something in you!
Good point. I think mainly that I don't want to try and it be too difficult for me so i give up. I know that's stupid. I'm not really the give up type, but i'm worried I won't have the time.
if your fingers are unable to make chord shapes and it ends up not going anywhere, you will have lost nothing and gained a new life experience. and maybe one of your kids or spouse or friend picks it up and takes a liking to it.
also as another encouragement, you absolutely do not have to know how to read music, and i would say the majority of guitar players are self-taught. and while of course there are certain techniques you can learn, there is no right or wrong way to play. you just do what sounds good to your own ears.
:cheers:
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 14, 2025, 11:19:27 AM
jimmy page solos are tough to categorize because they sound like expert mode, but the guy was a pretty sloppy player; have you tried just diming every knob? :D
that said, i'm not much of a lead player; are you only looking for solos/lead parts to learn, or songs in general?
I suppose up until this past summer, like 99% of my guitar playing has been rhythm. I sucked (still do, honestly) at soloing, or just like, improvising in general. So that's sort of been my focus. Leaning more into playing lead, hopefully picking up some habits/recognizing some common patterns that make for an ass kicking solo or just being the guy that makes the jam sesh 1000% more fun for everyone.
when it comes to songs that don't have solos (or at least nothing more than a lick here and there, as a treat) i've been trying to figure out how to play those songs by ear, just as a way of becoming a better guitar player and also developing that muscle of recognizing what the I, IV, V chords are in a song. I'm finding this works fine for songs where its just major and minor chords. No chance in hell i can just pick out a suspended 4th or diminished 7th or whatever by ear. at least not at this point.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 14, 2025, 11:31:32 AM
stupid fitz, what's stopping you? go learn some chords and see if it sparks something in you!
Good point. I think mainly that I don't want to try and it be too difficult for me so i give up. I know that's stupid. I'm not really the give up type, but i'm worried I won't have the time.
I have found that for like, 90% of songs you'd ever want to listen to...there is a beginner/intermediate/expert way of playing that song, which definitely lowers the barrier to entry. A great example would be Can't You See by Marshall Tucker Band. Like for real you could be playing that song prettayyy....prettay goood by the end of your first day ever holding a guitar if someone showed you how to position your hand.
that is a song that if i tried to play it technically correct right now i would fail miserably b/c there are a lot of individually plucked notes, but someone who just kinda knows that song from hearing it on the radio isn't going to pick up on it b/c they haven't listened to it a billion times on repeat trying to learn how to play it.
Not to mention...once you learn one of those "campfire songs" like, just a fairly simple song and its a crowd pleaser...makes it very easy to want to keep going with it!
Post by: mocat on February 14, 2025, 11:53:34 AM
jimmy page solos are tough to categorize because they sound like expert mode, but the guy was a pretty sloppy player; have you tried just diming every knob? :D
that said, i'm not much of a lead player; are you only looking for solos/lead parts to learn, or songs in general?
I suppose up until this past summer, like 99% of my guitar playing has been rhythm. I sucked (still do, honestly) at soloing, or just like, improvising in general. So that's sort of been my focus. Leaning more into playing lead, hopefully picking up some habits/recognizing some common patterns that make for an ass kicking solo or just being the guy that makes the jam sesh 1000% more fun for everyone.
when it comes to songs that don't have solos (or at least nothing more than a lick here and there, as a treat) i've been trying to figure out how to play those songs by ear, just as a way of becoming a better guitar player and also developing that muscle of recognizing what the I, IV, V chords are in a song. I'm finding this works fine for songs where its just major and minor chords. No chance in hell i can just pick out a suspended 4th or diminished 7th or whatever by ear. at least not at this point.
same. i've been just playing at home, learning songs, whatever, for like 15+ years. no music theory background, can't read music, etc. anyway not too long ago i mentioned to a guitar tech at GC that i felt like my playing was sort of plateauing, and that i was interested in taking some lessons. he asked how often i practice scales. i sort of looked at him blankly. he said, ok yeah go ahead and learn a couple of scales ("you rough ridin' idiot" was implied but left unsaid). so i went home and learned the major scale "box" just from a single diagram, and since then it's like the instrument has been unlocked. i can improvise over any song like almost immediately, it's f'ing nuts. i'm still not great at solo techniques, mind you, but still. being able to improvise confidently is crazy. now i'm dabbling in minor, pentatonic, "gypsy jazz" scales, etc. it's bananas. i also feel dumb for waiting so long.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 14, 2025, 12:48:20 PM
b/c like, funny story, i think you and i are in very similar situations. self taught, no music theory background, etc. so since ive been hitting a wall, my mindset was like okay i'm just going to listen for any songs that sound interesting and on the 80s channel i hear Weird Science by Oingo Boingo. Not really a guitar song, but it has some tasty licks that sound fun. So i try to look it up and can't really find much in the way of tabs for it (UltimateGuitar) other than i know its in B.
so alright i've got it playing on loop and i'm just messin around with it and okay i got this box where the notes sound more or less like they belong so i'm trying some of the different CAGED scale patterns and nothing is sounding quite right, so at my lesson this week i tell my instructor and i'm like should i be doing a major or minor scale or like, some secret 3rd thing? and he puts it on and he's like this sounds like a dorian scale.
and b/c he's really good he just starts improving right there and ofcourse it fits perfectly. 3 days ago, i'd never even heard the term dorian scale. it is my understanding that this pattern is frequently used in jazz.
Post by: mocat on February 14, 2025, 01:30:05 PM
i'm going to be out over my skis a bit here but dorian scale (or dorian mode) is one of the seven diatonic (7-note) scales/modes in modern western music. it's actually the same as the typical "minor" scale but has a sharp 6th. it's rare but not unheard of in modern pop music; i'm sure it's more common in jazz.
Post by: DQ12 on February 14, 2025, 02:01:41 PM
Post by: mocat on February 14, 2025, 02:45:25 PM
i got my wife an acoustic guitar for christmas and she realized she couldn't play it because of her nails so i started playing it. i learned a few chords. it's been fun.Dolly Parton is rolling in her castle
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 14, 2025, 05:40:22 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on February 20, 2025, 09:31:04 AM
Adding island in the stream to the set list.
Worst Bee Gees song ever.
Post by: mocat on February 20, 2025, 09:42:24 AM
There are way worse and you know it.Adding island in the stream to the set list.
Worst Bee Gees song ever.
Sidenote I've been playing how deep is your love. The chorus has some unbelievable chords. Gmaj7 to Gm6? Divine. Am/C to B7 is diabolical, and while the B7 holds an extra bar, you can walk down the bass with G and F# just in time to land the next chord Em7, before going back again to the Gm6. Unreal
Post by: Institutional Control on February 20, 2025, 10:09:40 AM
There are way worse and you know it.Adding island in the stream to the set list.
Worst Bee Gees song ever.
Sidenote I've been playing how deep is your love. The chorus has some unbelievable chords. Gmaj7 to Gm6? Divine. Am/C to B7 is diabolical, and while the B7 holds an extra bar, you can walk down the bass with G and F# just in time to land the next chord Em7, before going back again to the Gm6. Unreal
It's not in the top 20.
Post by: mocat on March 07, 2025, 11:21:14 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/guitars/s/OLOvOumxHz
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 07, 2025, 11:46:51 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/guitars/s/OLOvOumxHz
I swear that dude has an extra hand or two that we just can't see. that was amazing.
Post by: Spracne on March 07, 2025, 01:57:47 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/guitars/s/OLOvOumxHz
I swear that dude has an extra hand or two that we just can't see. that was amazing.
Did you guys know that Locrian, Aeolian, etc. modes are just the major scale but starting and ending at a different note? Whoah ...
Post by: mocat on March 07, 2025, 02:02:07 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/guitars/s/OLOvOumxHz
I swear that dude has an extra hand or two that we just can't see. that was amazing.
Did you guys know that Locrian, Aeolian, etc. modes are just the major scale but starting and ending at a different note? Whoah ...
wow you're pretty sharp, are you a lydian 4th? lmao
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 08, 2025, 08:07:41 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/guitars/s/OLOvOumxHz
I swear that dude has an extra hand or two that we just can't see. that was amazing.
Did you guys know that Locrian, Aeolian, etc. modes are just the major scale but starting and ending at a different note? Whoah ...
Are you Phrygian kidding me?