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Title: Westicles
Post by: Winters on January 15, 2014, 12:13:17 AM
I really like his zeal
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on January 15, 2014, 12:21:23 AM
me too. I also like it when he makes 3's
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Post by: i poo crabs on January 15, 2014, 12:23:31 AM
I like how he rebounds
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Post by: Asteriskhead on January 15, 2014, 02:56:45 AM
I really like his zeal

me too, winters. me too.
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: nicname on January 15, 2014, 05:52:55 AM
I like his length and studliness and how he is learning to use it.


Oh.... and THREEEEEEE!
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: HerrSonntag on January 15, 2014, 08:19:33 AM
He's just Wunderful.
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Post by: scottwildcat on January 15, 2014, 08:28:04 AM
Love the kid, I'm afraid he is going to chuck up and go 0-5 from 3 next game
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: CNS on January 15, 2014, 08:34:57 AM
He is going to be a well rounded player.  Has great handles for his size, moves very well, rebounds, threes, etc.  Get a little muscle and experience and he could be a very tough match up.
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: TownieCat on January 15, 2014, 08:47:04 AM
He is going to be a well rounded player.  Has great handles for his size, moves very well, rebounds, threes, etc.  Get a little muscle and experience and he could be a very tough match up.

I'm not the first person to say this, but it bears repeating... Wesley is Shane 2.0.
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: kso_FAN on January 15, 2014, 09:19:10 AM
He is going to be a well rounded player.  Has great handles for his size, moves very well, rebounds, threes, etc.  Get a little muscle and experience and he could be a very tough match up.

I'm not the first person to say this, but it bears repeating... Wesley is Shane 2.0.

Not the ball handler/passer. He doesn't have the ability to slide to PG if needed.

Wesley is Tim Ellis 2.0 IMHO.
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: CNS on January 15, 2014, 09:22:52 AM
He is going to be a well rounded player.  Has great handles for his size, moves very well, rebounds, threes, etc.  Get a little muscle and experience and he could be a very tough match up.

I'm not the first person to say this, but it bears repeating... Wesley is Shane 2.0.



Not the ball handler/passer. He doesn't have the ability to slide to PG if needed.

Wesley is Tim Ellis 2.0 IMHO.
I also think he is more naturally suited to production in the post.  Shane has been successful as our stretch 4, but I think that has more to do with the offense we run being more guard oriented than shane actually being able to play a traditional 4 role.  With some muscle added to the frosh Westicles, I think he could do more as a stretch 4 than shane and still have the handles and shot to extend out as needed.
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: Belvis Noland on January 15, 2014, 09:35:47 AM

Not the ball handler/passer. He doesn't have the ability to slide to PG if needed.

Wesley is Tim Ellis 2.0 IMHO.


I don't view Shane as a good ball handler. 

And, freshman Wes is light years ahead of freshman Shane, IMHO.
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: TownieCat on January 15, 2014, 09:40:39 AM

Not the ball handler/passer. He doesn't have the ability to slide to PG if needed.

Wesley is Tim Ellis 2.0 IMHO.


I don't view Shane as a good ball handler. 

And, freshman Wes is light years ahead of freshman Shane, IMHO.

Wes is an above average ball handler for his position and has brought the ball up the court several times. His style may be a little more similar to Ellis', but Wes is much taller/longer.

We also didn't get to see Ellis at 18 y/o like we did Shane. It's hard to make accurate comparisons to a guy that we didn't see until his body/game was more developed.
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: CNS on January 15, 2014, 09:45:01 AM

Not the ball handler/passer. He doesn't have the ability to slide to PG if needed.

Wesley is Tim Ellis 2.0 IMHO.


I don't view Shane as a good ball handler. 

And, freshman Wes is light years ahead of freshman Shane, IMHO.

Shane is a very good ball handler for a guy that doesn't play traditional guard.  Shane is a tweener.  A jack of all trades but master of none.  It is good coaching that has created the opportunity for shane to do what he has done, imo.
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: kso_FAN on January 15, 2014, 09:46:16 AM
Wes is an above average ball handler for his position and has brought the ball up the court several times. His style may be a little more similar to Ellis', but Wes is much taller/longer.

We also didn't get to see Ellis at 18 y/o like we did Shane. It's hard to make accurate comparisons to a guy that we didn't see until his body/game was more developed.

Good points. My comparison was mainly in terms of their style of play.

Shane reminds me more of Akeem Wright.
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 15, 2014, 09:53:11 AM
Westicles reminds me a lot of Westicles its uncanny really
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Post by: kso_FAN on January 15, 2014, 10:29:47 AM
I don't think it will be the case, but Westicles's 3PT shooting did bring back memories of Sutton vs Nebraska in the OOD, though that game (besides Dom's shooting) was unexpected on a lot of levels.
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: Skipper44 on January 15, 2014, 10:39:22 AM
I don't think it will be the case, but Westicles's 3PT shooting did bring back memories of Sutton vs Nebraska in the OOD, though that game (besides Dom's shooting) was unexpected on a lot of levels.
yeah, and Dom's jumper looked considerably better than Westicles's at this point. 

I think we are going to be disappointed if we expect Wes to replicate what Shane developed into, he just doesn't have the length or size to defend Big 12 post players.  I hope he puts in the time and adds a little more arc on his jumper and develops into a very effective wing player. 
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 15, 2014, 10:44:13 AM
Westicles reminds me of sophomore in high school Michael Jordan.. Yeah he got cut his freshman year but man he worked his ass of in the offseason! He's good at this point, not great. But could greatness come??.. ITS POSSIBLE!
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: sunny_cat on January 15, 2014, 10:47:42 AM
Wes is Jamar. :dunno:
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: kso_FAN on January 15, 2014, 11:04:34 AM
Westicles reminds me of sophomore in high school Michael Jordan.. Yeah he got cut his freshman year but man he worked his ass of in the offseason! He's good at this point, not great. But could greatness come??.. ITS POSSIBLE!

The "Michael Jordan got cut" story is one of the most ridiculous stories ever. Jordan was just like the majority of freshman basketball players and didn't make his varsity/jv team, he still played freshman basketball at his high school and was probably pretty good.

/end/sorry
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 15, 2014, 11:10:08 AM
Wesley reminds me a lot of Lola Bunny in Space Jam.. Sure he has the skills and a little bit of swagger but he's going to get monstared on by bigger opponents.
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: Skipper44 on January 15, 2014, 11:17:00 AM
Westicles reminds me of sophomore in high school Michael Jordan.. Yeah he got cut his freshman year but man he worked his ass of in the offseason! He's good at this point, not great. But could greatness come??.. ITS POSSIBLE!

The "Michael Jordan got cut" story is one of the most ridiculous stories ever. Jordan was just like the majority of freshman basketball players and didn't make his varsity/jv team, he still played freshman basketball at his high school and was probably pretty good.

/end/sorry
According to this, it was actually Jordan being on the JV as soph - http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1193740/index.htm (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1193740/index.htm)
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: kso_FAN on January 15, 2014, 11:21:43 AM
Westicles reminds me of sophomore in high school Michael Jordan.. Yeah he got cut his freshman year but man he worked his ass of in the offseason! He's good at this point, not great. But could greatness come??.. ITS POSSIBLE!

The "Michael Jordan got cut" story is one of the most ridiculous stories ever. Jordan was just like the majority of freshman basketball players and didn't make his varsity/jv team, he still played freshman basketball at his high school and was probably pretty good.

/end/sorry
According to this, it was actually Jordan being on the JV as soph - http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1193740/index.htm (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1193740/index.htm)

Thanks for finding/posting that. I remember reading that and forgot it was SO, not FR.
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: sunny_cat on January 15, 2014, 11:24:39 AM
Westicles reminds me of sophomore in high school Michael Jordan.. Yeah he got cut his freshman year but man he worked his ass of in the offseason! He's good at this point, not great. But could greatness come??.. ITS POSSIBLE!

The "Michael Jordan got cut" story is one of the most ridiculous stories ever. Jordan was just like the majority of freshman basketball players and didn't make his varsity/jv team, he still played freshman basketball at his high school and was probably pretty good.

/end/sorry

To be fair though, we're used to hearing about eventual superstars playing varsity all four years. Some make it as 8th graders.
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: kso_FAN on January 15, 2014, 11:28:15 AM
Westicles reminds me of sophomore in high school Michael Jordan.. Yeah he got cut his freshman year but man he worked his ass of in the offseason! He's good at this point, not great. But could greatness come??.. ITS POSSIBLE!

The "Michael Jordan got cut" story is one of the most ridiculous stories ever. Jordan was just like the majority of freshman basketball players and didn't make his varsity/jv team, he still played freshman basketball at his high school and was probably pretty good.

/end/sorry

To be fair though, we're used to hearing about eventual superstars playing varsity all four years. Some make it as 8th graders.

True, especially now. But Jordan in high school wasn't that far removed from when freshman didn't even play in college, just a much different time.
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 15, 2014, 12:58:42 PM
Wesley reminds me a lot of Lola Bunny in Space Jam.. Sure he has the skills and a little bit of swagger but he's going to get monstared on by bigger opponents.

this is a great post. only y-l_a comes up with stuff like this, folks.
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 15, 2014, 02:19:08 PM
I doubt he starts making 3s at a consistent rate, but I think Westicles has a OK stroke from 3pt.   I never liked Sutton's stroke from deep (for whatever reason)

I think a key is for Westicles to only shoot 3s when he is wide open.   Last year, when Shane started shooting 3s, a lot of them were wide open shots because he was playing that stretch 4 and the big on him was not really concerned about going out there to guard him

All 3 of Westicles's 3s were from the wing.  Maybe that can be his comfort spot.  Remember, Jamar always loved to shoot 3s from top of the key.

Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 29, 2014, 03:19:25 PM
Apparently our guy (oscar Juice) said he's grown 2 inches since he first came to campus. That puts him at 6'8" and still growing... :love:
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 29, 2014, 03:25:52 PM
Apparently our guy (oscar Juice) said he's grown 2 inches since he first came to campus. That puts him at 6'8" and still growing... :love:

The new Training Table!  :love:
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 29, 2014, 03:35:46 PM
Apparently our guy (oscar Juice) said he's grown 2 inches since he first came to campus. That puts him at 6'8" and still growing... :love:

The new Training Table!  :love:
They have a machine that streches players out an inch or two. it's part of oscar's recruiting strategy. He goes after guys that no one wants and strecthes their height out with this machine. - B+ Source  :surprised:
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: puniraptor on January 29, 2014, 03:37:03 PM
his defense has improved enormously throughout the season to this point. he turned from a full time liability to a guy I want in at the end.

*lbbiq
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 29, 2014, 03:40:34 PM
He's so good @  :alleyoop:
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Post by: wiley on January 29, 2014, 04:01:40 PM
i was heartbroken that his dunk didn't go down  :cry:
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: ydarg2012 on January 29, 2014, 04:21:28 PM
i was heartbroken that his dunk didn't go down  :cry:

It might have even outshone Foster's dunk against that Stockton kid.  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: Benja on January 29, 2014, 06:47:57 PM
I like to call him Wesley "That-one-dude" during games because it sounds like Westicles. Feel free to go ahead and try it.
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 29, 2014, 07:35:46 PM
I like to call him Wesley "That-one-dude" during games because it sounds like Westicles. Feel free to go ahead and try it.

Wesley That One Dude . . . yup, just kinda flows that way doesn't it?

Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: Benja on January 29, 2014, 07:50:35 PM
I like to call him Wesley "That-one-dude" during games because it sounds like Westicles. Feel free to go ahead and try it.

Wesley That One Dude . . . yup, just kinda flows that way doesn't it?



Yes it does. Just feels right on the tongue.
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: slobber on January 30, 2014, 04:00:47 AM
Do you guys know how oscar recruited Westicles? Here is the story from an A- source:

oscar was gaming at home, source says CoD B (for oscar) Ops II, Chet calls oscar on the cell phone while oscar is still wearing the 1/2 headset that came with his Xbox. Just as oscar was putting the finishing touches on some internet pud dude, Chet says, "oscar, we got room for one more. Who should I get?" Well, at that moment, the last bullet leaves Bruces AK47 and it is game over for the internet sucker who thought he could beat #DJBrucieBruce,YEAH" and oscar yells into the Xbox headset, "I WON DUDE!" and jumped out of his bean bag and accidentally hung up on Chet. Chet, being the stud recruiter that he is, uses the google to search out who "IWONDUDE" is and low and behold, Westicles is now a K-State PurpleCat.

Cats, man. Cats.
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: 75cat on January 30, 2014, 06:22:23 AM
Do you guys know how oscar recruited Westicles? Here is the story from an A- source:

oscar was gaming at home, source says CoD B (for oscar) Ops II, Chet calls oscar on the cell phone while oscar is still wearing the 1/2 headset that came with his Xbox. Just as oscar was putting the finishing touches on some internet pud dude, Chet says, "oscar, we got room for one more. Who should I get?" Well, at that moment, the last bullet leaves Bruces AK47 and it is game over for the internet sucker who thought he could beat #DJBrucieBruce,YEAH" and oscar yells into the Xbox headset, "I WON DUDE!" and jumped out of his bean bag and accidentally hung up on Chet. Chet, being the stud recruiter that he is, uses the google to search out who "IWONDUDE" is and low and behold, Westicles is now a K-State PurpleCat.

Cats, man. Cats.

 :ROFL:
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 30, 2014, 04:11:37 PM
Apparently our guy (oscar Juice) said he's grown 2 inches since he first came to campus. That puts him at 6'8" and still growing... :love:

That one dude is not 6'8".
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 30, 2014, 04:15:15 PM
Apparently our guy (oscar Juice) said he's grown 2 inches since he first came to campus. That puts him at 6'8" and still growing... :love:

That one dude is not 6'8".
He came in at 6'6". Are you calling oscar a liar?!
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 30, 2014, 04:33:03 PM
Apparently our guy (oscar Juice) said he's grown 2 inches since he first came to campus. That puts him at 6'8" and still growing... :love:

The new Training Table!  :love:
Apparently our guy (oscar Juice) said he's grown 2 inches since he first came to campus. That puts him at 6'8" and still growing... :love:

That one dude is not 6'8".
He came in at 6'6". Are you calling oscar a liar?!
Sounds like he is basically growing into a more badass version of Kevin Durant. Will take.
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: Trogdor on January 30, 2014, 08:27:49 PM
Apparently our guy (oscar Juice) said he's grown 2 inches since he first came to campus. That puts him at 6'8" and still growing... :love:

The new Training Table!  :love:
Apparently our guy (oscar Juice) said he's grown 2 inches since he first came to campus. That puts him at 6'8" and still growing... :love:

That one dude is not 6'8".
He came in at 6'6". Are you calling oscar a liar?!
Sounds like he is basically growing into a more badass version of Kevin Durant. Will take.
OH MY GOD YES :love: :love: :love:
Title: Re: Westicles
Post by: ShellShock on January 31, 2014, 01:57:02 PM
i was heartbroken that his dunk didn't go down  :cry:

It might have even outshone Foster's dunk against that Stockton kid.  :horrorsurprise:

It would have been easily top 2 or 3 on SCTop10 purely for the fact that it was a mirror image of Jordan't famous dunk with his legs stretched out and such...except that WI didn't jump from the FT line