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Gonna be tough. I expect like all the good teams to improve over 2013
OU - better than 2013
KSU - better than 2013
Baylor - dunno. If Briles stays could COULD be better than 2013, probably will drop off a bit tho
Texas - :lol: yeah they'll improve
Tech - Better than 2013
TCU - should improve I think
OSU - might not be as good as 2013 but I dunno really
ISU/KU/WVU - these teams could get a little bit better or a little worse but who cares they suck
Man. Winning the league in 2014 will be impressive
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It's gonna be a blast, man. So much fun.
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Gonna be tough. I expect like all the good teams to improve over 2013
OU - better than 2013
KSU - better than 2013
Baylor - dunno. If Briles stays could COULD be better than 2013, probably will drop off a bit tho
Texas - :lol: yeah they'll improve
Tech - Better than 2013
TCU - should improve I think
OSU - might not be as good as 2013 but I dunno really
ISU/KU/WVU - these teams could get a little bit better or a little worse but who cares they suck
Man. Winning the league in 2014 will be impressive
Could be the Big XII biggest yr. :Woohoo:
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Man we are just going to beat the eff out of each other every week. Glad we have a stable of qb's.
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i started to type that the big XII is going to cannibalize itself again in 2014 which would result in not having a team in the natty again
BUT
PLAYOFF tho!
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Gonna be tough. I expect like all the good teams to improve over 2013
OU - better than 2013
KSU - better than 2013
Baylor - dunno. If Briles stays could COULD be better than 2013, probably will drop off a bit tho
Texas - :lol: yeah they'll
Tech - Better than 2013
TCU - should improve I think
OSU - might not be as good as 2013 but I dunno really
ISU/KU/WVU - these teams could get a little bit better or a little worse but who cares they suck
Man. Winning the league in 2014 will be impressive
Thinking tech drops off.
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Man we are just going to beat the eff out of each other every week. Glad we have a stable of qb's.
Only if the coaches can keep #Life. :pray:
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BIG X!!
:lynchmob:
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I think ku is going to a bowl game next year
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I think ku is going to a bowl game next year
YLA you slay me
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The Big 12 should be almost as good as it was in 2012.
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I think ku is going to a bowl game next year
Some ppl will do anything for a LOL. :Lolrun:
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The Big 12 should be almost as good as it was in 2012.
Way better.
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The Big 12 should be almost as good as it was in 2012.
Way better.
I really don't see us having 9 teams in bowl games next year, and the best teams won't be any better than they are just about every other year.
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i started to type that the big XII is going to cannibalize itself again in 2014 which would result in not having a team in the natty again
BUT
PLAYOFF tho!
Someone read to me how teams will be chosen next year. The ranking system is out, there will be no more AQ, so the Pokes need to win tomorrow night to take the Big XII into next season as THE dominant conference. Since we are the only conference that plays head-to-head, it should help us more than teams that play divisional ball.
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i started to type that the big XII is going to cannibalize itself again in 2014 which would result in not having a team in the natty again
BUT
PLAYOFF tho!
Someone read to me how teams will be chosen next year. The ranking system is out, there will be no more AQ, so the Pokes need to win tomorrow night to take the Big XII into next season as THE dominant conference. Since we are the only conference that plays head-to-head, it should help us more than teams that play divisional ball.
Us beating auburn would help the conference, and us obviously, as well.
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Was looking forward to Saban at Texas, but now I guess I understand his reason for staying...
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Do returning starting QBs. That is always important.
KSU - Yes (2)
OU - Yes
TTech - Yes mostly
Texas - Yes mostly (sketti brains, tho)
OSU - No
TCU - No
Baylor - Yes
KU - No idea
ISU - No idea
WVU - No idea
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Do returning starting QBs. That is always important.
KSU - Yes (2)
OU - Yes
TTech - Yes mostly
Texas - Yes mostly (sketti brains, tho)
OSU - No
TCU - No
Baylor - I'd guess no?
KU - No idea
ISU - No idea
WVU -No idea yes, and both KSU and Texas parentheticals apply.
FYP. :cheers:
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TCU needs to be grouped with KU/ISU/WVU, they suck and don't have a good qb coming back. They've basically been Iowa State, crybaby ass coach included, the last two years.
Bryce Petty has already said he's staying. He isn't a top qb prospect, that position is stacked this year.
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Bryce Petty has already said he's staying. He isn't a top qb prospect, that position is stacked this year.
didn't know that. updated.
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Do returning starting QBs. That is always important.
KSU - Yes (2)
OU - Yes
TTech - Yes mostly
Texas - Yes mostly (sketti brains, tho)
OSU - No
TCU - No
Baylor - I'd guess no?
KU - No idea
ISU - No idea
WVU -No idea yes, and both KSU and Texas parentheticals apply.
FYP. :cheers:
no, original disregarding of WVU applies. NO UPDATE!
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The conference is too good and too balanced for a team to go through 9-0. The problem with the last two years is that the champ was blown out in their one loss. 11-1 is a lock to get in the playoffs as long as the loss isn't by 4+ TDs like it was in '12 and '13.
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Going to be real fun bros
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I think ku is going to a bowl game next year
Some ppl will do anything for a LOL. :Lolrun:
woof, just saw there OOC schedule.. gotta play at duke and central michigan is coming to town..
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also if we beat auburn.. hold on to your hats boys because its going to be a fun ride
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also if we beat auburn.. hold on to your hats boys because its going to be a fun ride
will be a great day at BSFS
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also if we beat auburn.. hold on to your hats boys because its going to be a fun ride
will be a great day at BSFS
night ;)
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also if we beat auburn.. hold on to your hats boys because its going to be a fun ride
will be a great day at BSFS
night ;)
both! :excited:
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HOPEFULLY NOT A THURSDAY NIGHT :curse:
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yeah i kinda forgot about the Thursday night thing. i dunno, mixed feelings.
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yeah i kinda forgot about the Thursday night thing. i dunno, mixed feelings.
I love it. National TV and everyone in the world tuning in to see us beat the defending champs or runners up. :love:
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yeah i kinda forgot about the Thursday night thing. i dunno, mixed feelings.
I love it. National TV and everyone in the world tuning in to see us beat the defending champs or runners up. :love:
yes this is the pro-thursday portion of my feelings.
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yeah i kinda forgot about the Thursday night thing. i dunno, mixed feelings.
I love it. National TV and everyone in the world tuning in to see us beat the defending champs or runners up. :love:
yes this is the pro-thursday portion of my feelings.
what's the anti? not wanting to take off work friday? I see that a lot on THE OTHER BOARD!
:surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:
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it would feel amazing to beat a team who just finished playing in the national title game
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between my wedding, other weddings, my honeymoon, and my bachelor party, I won't have the pto to go up to mhk on a thursday. :cry:
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between my wedding, other weddings, my honeymoon, and my bachelor party, I won't have the pto to go up to mhk on a thursday. :cry:
do u even sick leave bro
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what's the anti? not wanting to take off work friday? I see that a lot on THE OTHER BOARD!
:surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:
lol no, sd. vacation days i can do. plus with my new job i'll probably just get to fly in directly to mhk for the long weekend :gocho:
it's more that, just in general, big primetime saturday games are a lot of fun to me. college gameday possibly? who knows!? thursday would take a little bit of the luster off it. just a little though!
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Last time we played on a Thursday I just left work a couple hours early and still worked the next AM. Just don't pak too hard and its no big deal.
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between my wedding, other weddings, my honeymoon, and my bachelor party, I won't have the pto to go up to mhk on a thursday. :cry:
Weddings during football season...
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between my wedding, other weddings, my honeymoon, and my bachelor party, I won't have the pto to go up to mhk on a thursday. :cry:
Weddings during football season...
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If it's anything like my job, you get your PTO at the beginning of the year and don't get any more until the next year. If you have a bunch of weddings scheduled for that summer, you won't still have any PTO left come football season.
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TCU needs to be grouped with KU/ISU/WVU, they suck and don't have a good qb coming back. They've basically been Iowa State, crybaby ass coach included, the last two years.
Bryce Petty has already said he's staying. He isn't a top qb prospect, that position is stacked this year.
If Briles bolts I wouldn't be shocked if Petty changes his mind
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I'm still bracing my self for the K.I.T.N "scheduling conflict" that Bill will find. Then this game becomes a buy out where we play Eastern Wyoming Vo-tech Fighting Cornish Game Hens, for an 11 A.M kick off. :frown:
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yeah i kinda forgot about the Thursday night thing. i dunno, mixed feelings.
I love it. National TV and everyone in the world tuning in to see us beat the defending champs or runners up. :love:
yes this is the pro-thursday portion of my feelings.
what's the anti? not wanting to take off work friday? I see that a lot on THE OTHER BOARD!
:surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:
Translation: hit the road 'blast.
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yeah i kinda forgot about the Thursday night thing. i dunno, mixed feelings.
I love it. National TV and everyone in the world tuning in to see us beat the defending champs or runners up. :love:
Hell yeah!!
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The conference is too good and too balanced for a team to go through 9-0. The problem with the last two years is that the champ was blown out in their one loss. 11-1 is a lock to get in the playoffs as long as the loss isn't by 4+ TDs like it was in '12 and '13.
assuming that close loss doesn't come at the hands of ISU/KU/WVU/TCU
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between my wedding, other weddings, my honeymoon, and my bachelor party, I won't have the pto to go up to mhk on a thursday. :cry:
Weddings during football season...
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none of them are during football season. did you read the post?
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between my wedding, other weddings, my honeymoon, and my bachelor party, I won't have the pto to go up to mhk on a thursday. :cry:
Weddings during football season...
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none of them are during football season. did you read the post?
He didn't.
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didn't know Bryce petty was staying until this thread and now im kinda sad because were gonna lose that game for sure. :bawl:
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I think ku is going to a bowl game next year
Some ppl will do anything for a LOL. :Lolrun:
woof, just saw there OOC schedule.. gotta play at duke and central michigan is coming to town..
Duke is good this yr. and should be next season.
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nice work as us' katdaddy
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nice work as us' katdaddy
Where were you last night?
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didn't know Bryce petty was staying until this thread and now im kinda sad because were gonna lose that game for sure. :bawl:
Shut up loser.
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didn't know Bryce petty was staying until this thread and now im kinda sad because were gonna lose that game for sure. :bawl:
Shut up loser.
Yea, that's what he's saying. :D
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I don't think we'll win 11 or 12 games or anything crazy next year, but I think it will actually be MORE FUN than we think!
Our SOS will be through the roof, and we'll peak, especially on defense, towards the end of the year, probably win a nice bowl game and finish somewhere around the top 15. But maybe we'll finish higher than that because one of our team rules is we DON'T LIMIT EXPECTATIONS GUYS.
Also, I don't hate waters anymore, which is nice. My only stipulation for fun next year now is that somehow, someway, Sams can be happy.
Go cats.
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I'm still bracing my self for the K.I.T.N "scheduling conflict" that Bill will find. Then this game becomes a buy out where we play Eastern Wyoming Vo-tech Fighting Cornish Game Hens, for an 11 A.M kick off. :frown:
Not 100% sure you realize Currie will never let this happen. He is going to fleece the ever loving crap out of our fan base for this gave. Single game tix with be at least $100.
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I don't think we'll win 11 or 12 games or anything crazy next year, but I think it will actually be MORE FUN than we think!
Our SOS will be through the roof, and we'll peak, especially on defense, towards the end of the year, probably win a nice bowl game and finish somewhere around the top 15. But maybe we'll finish higher than that because one of our team rules is we DON'T LIMIT EXPECTATIONS GUYS.
Also, I don't hate waters anymore, which is nice. My only stipulation for fun next year now is that somehow, someway, Sams can be happy.
Go cats.
If not the playoffs, then the Sugar Bowl it is. ;)
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you guys see the plane leavin Austin to T-Town, got diverted to Lincoln?
bo to Texas!
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nice work as us' katdaddy
Where were you last night?
Missed your words to the wise.
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I don't think we'll win 11 or 12 games or anything crazy next year, but I think it will actually be MORE FUN than we think!
Our SOS will be through the roof, and we'll peak, especially on defense, towards the end of the year, probably win a nice bowl game and finish somewhere around the top 15. But maybe we'll finish higher than that because one of our team rules is we DON'T LIMIT EXPECTATIONS GUYS.
Also, I don't hate waters anymore, which is nice. My only stipulation for fun next year now is that somehow, someway, Sams can be happy.
Go cats.
sams is happy when we win. he goes nuts every time we score whether it's him or waters or whoever.
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I don't think we'll win 11 or 12 games or anything crazy next year, but I think it will actually be MORE FUN than we think!
Our SOS will be through the roof, and we'll peak, especially on defense, towards the end of the year, probably win a nice bowl game and finish somewhere around the top 15. But maybe we'll finish higher than that because one of our team rules is we DON'T LIMIT EXPECTATIONS GUYS.
Also, I don't hate waters anymore, which is nice. My only stipulation for fun next year now is that somehow, someway, Sams can be happy.
Go cats.
That's interesting because we're going to.
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I'm still bracing my self for the K.I.T.N "scheduling conflict" that Bill will find. Then this game becomes a buy out where we play Eastern Wyoming Vo-tech Fighting Cornish Game Hens, for an 11 A.M kick off. :frown:
Not 100% sure you realize Currie will never let this happen. He is going to fleece the ever loving crap out of our fan base for this gave. Single game tix with be at least $100.
I'm good with that, we need to start playing some big OOC games(would prefer SEC) We need to show up when we do play though, it will only help our nation perception of the university and the conference.
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you guys see the plane leavin Austin to T-Town, got diverted to Lincoln?
bo to Texas!
I'm not sure if that would make Nebraska fans joyous or more spiteful....
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I don't think we'll win 11 or 12 games or anything crazy next year, but I think it will actually be MORE FUN than we think!
Our SOS will be through the roof, and we'll peak, especially on defense, towards the end of the year, probably win a nice bowl game and finish somewhere around the top 15. But maybe we'll finish higher than that because one of our team rules is we DON'T LIMIT EXPECTATIONS GUYS.
Also, I don't hate waters anymore, which is nice. My only stipulation for fun next year now is that somehow, someway, Sams can be happy.
Go cats.
That's interesting because we're going to.
14 wins
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I don't think we'll win 11 or 12 games or anything crazy next year, but I think it will actually be MORE FUN than we think!
Our SOS will be through the roof, and we'll peak, especially on defense, towards the end of the year, probably win a nice bowl game and finish somewhere around the top 15. But maybe we'll finish higher than that because one of our team rules is we DON'T LIMIT EXPECTATIONS GUYS.
Also, I don't hate waters anymore, which is nice. My only stipulation for fun next year now is that somehow, someway, Sams can be happy.
Go cats.
That's interesting because we're going to.
14 wins
Right, exactly. 11-12 is the bare minimum.
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sunny calling his shot.
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sunny calling his shot.
Can't remember what I had in my predicto thread. I may have to edit it when a new thread is started. Basically we'll win every game 49-3.
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I don't think we'll win 11 or 12 games or anything crazy next year, but I think it will actually be MORE FUN than we think!
Our SOS will be through the roof, and we'll peak, especially on defense, towards the end of the year, probably win a nice bowl game and finish somewhere around the top 15. But maybe we'll finish higher than that because one of our team rules is we DON'T LIMIT EXPECTATIONS GUYS.
Also, I don't hate waters anymore, which is nice. My only stipulation for fun next year now is that somehow, someway, Sams can be happy.
Go cats.
That's interesting because we're going to.
I LIKE IT SUNNY!
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I don't think we'll win 11 or 12 games or anything crazy next year, but I think it will actually be MORE FUN than we think!
Our SOS will be through the roof, and we'll peak, especially on defense, towards the end of the year, probably win a nice bowl game and finish somewhere around the top 15. But maybe we'll finish higher than that because one of our team rules is we DON'T LIMIT EXPECTATIONS GUYS.
Also, I don't hate waters anymore, which is nice. My only stipulation for fun next year now is that somehow, someway, Sams can be happy.
Go cats.
That's interesting because we're going to.
I LIKE IT SUNNY!
:fistpump:
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Bold move by a guy who is not projected to be drafted...
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Oil spill on mesh
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Am I luking this?
http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2014/story/_/id/10252468/lache-seastrunk-going-pro-2-seasons-playing-baylor-bears?src=mobile
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Kansas State quarterback Jake Waters:
The Wildcats signal caller was overshadowed by a stellar performance from Tyler Lockett (10 receptions, 116 yards, three touchdowns). But Waters was pretty good in his own right, particularly on third down. He finished with a 100 raw QBR (scale of 0-100 with 50 being average) on third-down plays during the Wildcats’ 31-14 win over Michigan in the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl. Waters was 4 of 7 for 44 yards and one touchdown and added three carries for 25 yards. He was the main reason KSU converted 7 of 11 third down attempts. Waters' strong play at the end of the year is one reason the Wildcats should be right in the mix to be crowned the Big 12 preseason favorite.
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Way-Too-Early 2014 Big 12 power poll
January, 7, 2014
By Jake Trotter | ESPN.com
Immediately after the national championship game, colleague Mark Schlabach released his Way-Too-Early Top 25. In concert, below is our Way-Too-Early Big 12 power poll. This could change between now and the end of the spring. In fact, it probably will. But this is a first look at how the Big 12 teams stack up against one another for 2014:
1. Oklahoma Sooners
In the Allstate Sugar Bowl, freshman Trevor Knight finally played like the quarterback that had been drawing comparisons to Johnny Manziel behind Oklahoma’s closed practices. The Sooners lose some cornerstone players to graduation, notably running back Brennan Clay, center Gabe Ikard, receiver Jalen Saunders and cornerback Aaron Colvin. But with Knight and budding running back Keith Ford returning to man the backfield, and nine starters coming back defensively, including menacing outside linebacker Eric Striker, Oklahoma could be a favorite in every game next season -- and a force once again on the national stage.
2. Baylor Bears
Even with running back Lache Seastrunk going pro, the Bears return plenty of firepower offensively. Bryce Petty will be the reigning All-Big 12 quarterback, and Antwan Goodley will be coming off a monster junior season. Rising sophomore Shock Linwood showed he could shoulder the rushing load, too, when Seastrunk and Glasco Martin were banged up late in the season. The Bears, however, could take a step back defensively. Baylor, which got torched for 52 points in the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl, loses six starters there, including All-American safety Ahmad Dixon and All-Big 12 linebacker Eddie Lackey. Former blue-chip defensive tackle recruit Andrew Billings will need to step up and become more of a force. Even if the defense stumbles, Baylor should be capable of scoring enough points to win every game on its schedule, thanks to coach Art Briles being back on its sidelines.
3. Kansas State Wildcats
Along with Missouri, the Wildcats were the first two teams left out of Schlabach’s Top 25. But they make a compelling case for inclusion. Quarterback Jake Waters improved dramatically during the second half of the season, eventually squeezing Daniel Sams out of the QB rotation. Wideout Tyler Lockett could be a preseason All-American, after torching Texas, Oklahoma and Michigan for a combined 631 receiving yards and six touchdowns. The defense should be better, too, with sack artist Ryan Mueller back at end, and rising junior safety Dante Barnett set to take over for the outgoing Ty Zimmerman as leader of the secondary. The Wildcats will be tested early with national runner-up Auburn visiting Manhattan on Sept. 20. If K-State can win that game, the rest of the Big 12 will be on notice.
4. Texas Longhorns
During his introductory news conference on Monday, new Texas coach Charlie Strong said Mack Brown left him with a team that could win right away. Strong might be right. The Longhorns return eight starters off a defense that found its stride under interim coordinator Greg Robinson. Texas also brings back six starters offensively and its entire running back corps, including Malcolm Brown, who rushed for more than 100 yards in the Valero Alamo Bowl. A big part of Mack Brown’s downfall, however, was quarterback play, and that once again will be a huge question mark in Strong’s first season. David Ash sat out most of this season with concussion issues, making his football future tenuous. Tyrone Swoopes is athletic with a big arm but needs polish. The other option will be incoming freshman Jerrod Heard, who just led his high school team to a Texas state championship. If one of those three emerges, Strong could have Texas on the way back ahead of schedule.
5. Oklahoma State Cowboys
The Cowboys were 19 seconds away from playing in a BCS bowl game. But two losses to end the year soured what could have been a stellar season. Now, Oklahoma State must replace the bulk of its team, including quarterback Clint Chelf and seven starters defensively. Star slot receiver Josh Stewart is also reportedly mulling over leaving early, too. Either way, 2014 will be a retooling season for coach Mike Gundy, whose first order of business will be settling on a quarterback. J.W. Walsh, who started the first half of the season before losing the job back to Chelf, would have to be considered the favorite. But Gundy has shown before he’s not afraid of turning the keys of the offense to a true freshman, and the Cowboys have an intriguing freshman QB enrolling for the spring in Mason Rudolph, who threw 64 touchdown passes this fall as a high school senior in South Carolina. That could result in some growing pains for Oklahoma State, which opens the season against defending national champion Florida State. But if Rudolph proves to be the long-term answer at QB, it shouldn’t be more than a year before the Cowboys are contending in the Big 12 again.
6. Texas Tech Red Raiders
Texas Tech completely changed the tenor of its offseason with a dominating 37-23 win over Pac-12 South Division champ Arizona State in the National University Holiday Bowl. Finally healthy again, the Red Raiders showed they were better than a five-game losing streak to end the regular season indicated. Now, Tech returns eight starters offensively, including quarterback Davis Webb, who torched the Sun Devils and had several other encouraging moments as a true freshman. Tech has to replace most of its defense. But if Webb settles in at quarterback, the Red Raiders should be improved in coach Kliff Kingsbury’s second season in Lubbock.
7. TCU Horned Frogs
TCU was the 2013 preseason pick of many people to win the Big 12. Instead, injuries ravaged the roster, and the Horned Frogs failed to go to a bowl game for just second time with Gary Patterson as coach. Patterson shook up his offensive staff after the season, bringing in Houston’s Doug Meacham and Texas Tech’s Sonny Cumbie as co-coordinators to revamp TCU’s offensive attack. TCU should be stout again defensively, especially if 2012 Big 12 defensive freshman of the year Devonte Fields returns to form from a broken foot. But the key to a better season will be whether Meacham and Cumbie can squeeze more offense out of the Horned Frogs and find the answer at quarterback. The answer, however, might not be on campus yet. Trevone Boykin has 15 career QB starts, but is probably a better fit as a receiver. Meanwhile, TCU’s top incoming recruits, Foster Sawyer and Grayson Muehlstein, are both quarterbacks, and could factor into the wide-open competition.
8. Iowa State Cyclones
Even though Iowa State just finished in the bottom three of the Big 12 in points per game (24.8), yards per game (363), yards per play (4.82), rushing yards (143.8) and passing yards (219.2), the Cyclones return some offensive firepower. Tailback Aaron Wimberly was effective when healthy, and Quenton Bundrage flashed signs of a legit No. 1 receiver. The key will be QB, and whether Grant Rohach builds on his late-season surge. But with a proven offensive coordinator in Mark Mangino now on board, the Cyclones have the pieces to form one of the better offenses in the league next season.
9. West Virginia Mountaineers
The Mountaineers careened off the road late this season with back-to-back losses to Kansas and Iowa State. Now, the pressure is on coach Dana Holgorsen, who will have to win games to keep his job even though the 2014 schedule is brutal. Like so many other teams in the Big 12, West Virginia must find a solution at quarterback. Holgorsen has options. Clint Trickett, Paul Millard and Ford Childress are all back after getting at least two starts apiece last year. Junior-college transfer Skyler Howard will be enrolling early and joining the fray. Four-star recruit William Crest will be in the mix, too. Even if Holgorsen finds his answer at quarterback, a winning season won’t come easy. The Mountaineers have one of the toughest schedules in the country, beginning with the Chick-fil-A Kickoff Game against Alabama in Atlanta.
10. Kansas Jayhawks
Kansas showed only modest improvement in Charlie Weis’ second season as head coach. This will be a key season for Weis as he attempts to rebuild the program. He desperately needs Montell Cozart to develop into the answer at quarterback. Cozart still has a ways to go with his passing, but he showed he could hurt defenses with his legs. Defensively, the Jayhawks bring back some solid players, notably linebackers Ben Goodman and Ben Heeney and safety Isaiah Johnson. But Kansas will take the next step only if Cozart -- or somebody else -- emerges at quarterback.
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Way-Too-Early 2014 Big 12 power poll
January, 7, 2014
By Jake Trotter | ESPN.com
Immediately after the national championship game, colleague Mark Schlabach released his Way-Too-Early Top 25. In concert, below is our Way-Too-Early Big 12 power poll. This could change between now and the end of the spring. In fact, it probably will. But this is a first look at how the Big 12 teams stack up against one another for 2014:
1. Oklahoma Sooners
In the Allstate Sugar Bowl, freshman Trevor Knight finally played like the quarterback that had been drawing comparisons to Johnny Manziel behind Oklahoma’s closed practices. The Sooners lose some cornerstone players to graduation, notably running back Brennan Clay, center Gabe Ikard, receiver Jalen Saunders and cornerback Aaron Colvin. But with Knight and budding running back Keith Ford returning to man the backfield, and nine starters coming back defensively, including menacing outside linebacker Eric Striker, Oklahoma could be a favorite in every game next season -- and a force once again on the national stage.
2. Baylor Bears
Even with running back Lache Seastrunk going pro, the Bears return plenty of firepower offensively. Bryce Petty will be the reigning All-Big 12 quarterback, and Antwan Goodley will be coming off a monster junior season. Rising sophomore Shock Linwood showed he could shoulder the rushing load, too, when Seastrunk and Glasco Martin were banged up late in the season. The Bears, however, could take a step back defensively. Baylor, which got torched for 52 points in the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl, loses six starters there, including All-American safety Ahmad Dixon and All-Big 12 linebacker Eddie Lackey. Former blue-chip defensive tackle recruit Andrew Billings will need to step up and become more of a force. Even if the defense stumbles, Baylor should be capable of scoring enough points to win every game on its schedule, thanks to coach Art Briles being back on its sidelines.
3. Kansas State Wildcats
Along with Missouri, the Wildcats were the first two teams left out of Schlabach’s Top 25. But they make a compelling case for inclusion. Quarterback Jake Waters improved dramatically during the second half of the season, eventually squeezing Daniel Sams out of the QB rotation. Wideout Tyler Lockett could be a preseason All-American, after torching Texas, Oklahoma and Michigan for a combined 631 receiving yards and six touchdowns. The defense should be better, too, with sack artist Ryan Mueller back at end, and rising junior safety Dante Barnett set to take over for the outgoing Ty Zimmerman as leader of the secondary. The Wildcats will be tested early with national runner-up Auburn visiting Manhattan on Sept. 20. If K-State can win that game, the rest of the Big 12 will be on notice.
4. Texas Longhorns
During his introductory news conference on Monday, new Texas coach Charlie Strong said Mack Brown left him with a team that could win right away. Strong might be right. The Longhorns return eight starters off a defense that found its stride under interim coordinator Greg Robinson. Texas also brings back six starters offensively and its entire running back corps, including Malcolm Brown, who rushed for more than 100 yards in the Valero Alamo Bowl. A big part of Mack Brown’s downfall, however, was quarterback play, and that once again will be a huge question mark in Strong’s first season. David Ash sat out most of this season with concussion issues, making his football future tenuous. Tyrone Swoopes is athletic with a big arm but needs polish. The other option will be incoming freshman Jerrod Heard, who just led his high school team to a Texas state championship. If one of those three emerges, Strong could have Texas on the way back ahead of schedule.
5. Oklahoma State Cowboys
The Cowboys were 19 seconds away from playing in a BCS bowl game. But two losses to end the year soured what could have been a stellar season. Now, Oklahoma State must replace the bulk of its team, including quarterback Clint Chelf and seven starters defensively. Star slot receiver Josh Stewart is also reportedly mulling over leaving early, too. Either way, 2014 will be a retooling season for coach Mike Gundy, whose first order of business will be settling on a quarterback. J.W. Walsh, who started the first half of the season before losing the job back to Chelf, would have to be considered the favorite. But Gundy has shown before he’s not afraid of turning the keys of the offense to a true freshman, and the Cowboys have an intriguing freshman QB enrolling for the spring in Mason Rudolph, who threw 64 touchdown passes this fall as a high school senior in South Carolina. That could result in some growing pains for Oklahoma State, which opens the season against defending national champion Florida State. But if Rudolph proves to be the long-term answer at QB, it shouldn’t be more than a year before the Cowboys are contending in the Big 12 again.
6. Texas Tech Red Raiders
Texas Tech completely changed the tenor of its offseason with a dominating 37-23 win over Pac-12 South Division champ Arizona State in the National University Holiday Bowl. Finally healthy again, the Red Raiders showed they were better than a five-game losing streak to end the regular season indicated. Now, Tech returns eight starters offensively, including quarterback Davis Webb, who torched the Sun Devils and had several other encouraging moments as a true freshman. Tech has to replace most of its defense. But if Webb settles in at quarterback, the Red Raiders should be improved in coach Kliff Kingsbury’s second season in Lubbock.
7. TCU Horned Frogs
TCU was the 2013 preseason pick of many people to win the Big 12. Instead, injuries ravaged the roster, and the Horned Frogs failed to go to a bowl game for just second time with Gary Patterson as coach. Patterson shook up his offensive staff after the season, bringing in Houston’s Doug Meacham and Texas Tech’s Sonny Cumbie as co-coordinators to revamp TCU’s offensive attack. TCU should be stout again defensively, especially if 2012 Big 12 defensive freshman of the year Devonte Fields returns to form from a broken foot. But the key to a better season will be whether Meacham and Cumbie can squeeze more offense out of the Horned Frogs and find the answer at quarterback. The answer, however, might not be on campus yet. Trevone Boykin has 15 career QB starts, but is probably a better fit as a receiver. Meanwhile, TCU’s top incoming recruits, Foster Sawyer and Grayson Muehlstein, are both quarterbacks, and could factor into the wide-open competition.
8. Iowa State Cyclones
Even though Iowa State just finished in the bottom three of the Big 12 in points per game (24.8), yards per game (363), yards per play (4.82), rushing yards (143.8) and passing yards (219.2), the Cyclones return some offensive firepower. Tailback Aaron Wimberly was effective when healthy, and Quenton Bundrage flashed signs of a legit No. 1 receiver. The key will be QB, and whether Grant Rohach builds on his late-season surge. But with a proven offensive coordinator in Mark Mangino now on board, the Cyclones have the pieces to form one of the better offenses in the league next season.
9. West Virginia Mountaineers
The Mountaineers careened off the road late this season with back-to-back losses to Kansas and Iowa State. Now, the pressure is on coach Dana Holgorsen, who will have to win games to keep his job even though the 2014 schedule is brutal. Like so many other teams in the Big 12, West Virginia must find a solution at quarterback. Holgorsen has options. Clint Trickett, Paul Millard and Ford Childress are all back after getting at least two starts apiece last year. Junior-college transfer Skyler Howard will be enrolling early and joining the fray. Four-star recruit William Crest will be in the mix, too. Even if Holgorsen finds his answer at quarterback, a winning season won’t come easy. The Mountaineers have one of the toughest schedules in the country, beginning with the Chick-fil-A Kickoff Game against Alabama in Atlanta.
10. Kansas Jayhawks
Kansas showed only modest improvement in Charlie Weis’ second season as head coach. This will be a key season for Weis as he attempts to rebuild the program. He desperately needs Montell Cozart to develop into the answer at quarterback. Cozart still has a ways to go with his passing, but he showed he could hurt defenses with his legs. Defensively, the Jayhawks bring back some solid players, notably linebackers Ben Goodman and Ben Heeney and safety Isaiah Johnson. But Kansas will take the next step only if Cozart -- or somebody else -- emerges at quarterback.
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