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Title: The Few? The Proud? The oscar! Gonzaga ADV
Post by: kso_FAN on December 21, 2013, 05:52:49 PM
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Great defense, holding the #3 kenpom efficiency offense to 1.02 points per possession, BUT also pretty efficient offense at nearly 1.2 points per possession. Overall a lot nice things going into Big 12 play for this team.

And this guy...

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Title: Re: The Few? The Proud? The oscar! Gonzaga ADV
Post by: Trogdor on December 21, 2013, 06:08:55 PM
And this guy...

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Title: Re: The Few? The Proud? The oscar! Gonzaga ADV
Post by: pvegs on December 21, 2013, 06:13:18 PM
And this guy...

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 :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

probably my favorite ksate bball play since the jake layup that set the school scoring record
Title: Re: The Few? The Proud? The oscar! Gonzaga ADV
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 21, 2013, 06:29:13 PM
And this guy...

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 :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

probably my favorite ksate bball play since the jake layup that set the school scoring record

McGruder game winner. Angel to JO oop.
Title: Re: The Few? The Proud? The oscar! Gonzaga ADV
Post by: 8manpick on December 21, 2013, 06:29:34 PM
Finally have something to replace the Bill Walker missed dunk on the intro video
Title: Re: The Few? The Proud? The oscar! Gonzaga ADV
Post by: Panjandrum on December 21, 2013, 06:42:15 PM
The TO rate...

That was nearly perfectly executed Bruceketball.
Title: Re: The Few? The Proud? The oscar! Gonzaga ADV
Post by: Mr Bread on December 21, 2013, 06:46:06 PM
Yeah that turnover percentage is tasty.  I don't want to alarm anyone, but I might be a seer guys.  Will report back after some lotto runs. 
Title: Re: The Few? The Proud? The oscar! Gonzaga ADV
Post by: kso_FAN on December 21, 2013, 09:24:34 PM
@RealBenBoyle: Baylor (No. 6 CU) and #KState (No. 13 Gonzaga) have the top two RPI wins in #Big12 to date.
Title: Re: The Few? The Proud? The oscar! Gonzaga ADV
Post by: CNS on December 21, 2013, 11:41:25 PM
This was the first game we played this year that had solid flow without a feeling of WTF.  D looked good, gip looked smooth, Foster was very boss, shane looked like shane from last yr.  We didn't appear to make an abundance of mistakes.  We could really do quite well in conf if this game is what we look like rather.than the last dozen or so.

Zags have good guards and a powerful big.  A combo I thought we would gave lots of troubs with
 
We seemed to push for a faster pace. Is this what a week incorporating Jevon does?  If so, will rough ridin' take.


Very happy w tonight.
Title: Re: The Few? The Proud? The oscar! Gonzaga ADV
Post by: wetwillie on December 21, 2013, 11:46:50 PM
Didn't hurt that DJamer TKO'd one of their bigs.  I felt like this gonzaga team was very soft though. 
Title: Re: The Few? The Proud? The oscar! Gonzaga ADV
Post by: Powercat Posse on December 22, 2013, 01:20:45 AM
Gonz was very good first 10 min of the 2nd hf =  10-15 fg and 26 pts in 10 minutes

Rest of the game ---Gonzaga 36 pts in 30 minutes, 40% FG and 11 TOs. 

For a bad team.... this was a very good win.   12 months from now.... 24 months from now.   look out!!!!

Title: Re: The Few? The Proud? The oscar! Gonzaga ADV
Post by: 0.42 on December 22, 2013, 05:02:17 AM
That thread title?

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Title: Re: The Few? The Proud? The oscar! Gonzaga ADV
Post by: kso_FAN on December 22, 2013, 08:47:47 AM
This was the first game we played this year that had solid flow without a feeling of WTF.  D looked good, gip looked smooth, Foster was very boss, shane looked like shane from last yr.  We didn't appear to make an abundance of mistakes.  We could really do quite well in conf if this game is what we look like rather.than the last dozen or so.

Zags have good guards and a powerful big.  A combo I thought we would gave lots of troubs with
 
We seemed to push for a faster pace. Is this what a week incorporating Jevon does?  If so, will rough ridin' take.


Very happy w tonight.

We pushed the ball a few times, but it was actually our lowest possession game of the season. I think better flow came from the lack of turnovers.
Title: Re: The Few? The Proud? The oscar! Gonzaga ADV
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 22, 2013, 09:12:06 AM
Didn't hurt that DJamer TKO'd one of their bigs.

On what appeared to be a clean block.

Our bigs (all 2 of them) have improved drastically, as have overall rebounding. Great job staff!


_Fan, what were the metrics typically required for a oscar win (efg/to%/???)?  The same metrics apply to this team or is revision warranted? I ask, because 50% efg games don't seem to be the norm this season (maybe with continued improvement will be?)
Title: Re: The Few? The Proud? The oscar! Gonzaga ADV
Post by: kso_FAN on December 22, 2013, 10:02:25 AM
_Fan, what were the metrics typically required for a oscar win (efg/to%/???)?  The same metrics apply to this team or is revision warranted? I ask, because 50% efg games don't seem to be the norm this season (maybe with continued improvement will be?)

Yes, it will have to be adjusted. I'll put updated advanced stats up later today and that will give a better picture. Yesterday we had a 14% advantage in TO% and a 4% advantage in OR%, so that was enough to overcome shooting <30% from 3 and getting outshot (eFG%) overall by nearly 6%.
Title: Re: The Few? The Proud? The oscar! Gonzaga ADV
Post by: TownieCat on December 22, 2013, 10:09:32 AM
Didn't hurt that DJamer TKO'd one of their bigs.

On what appeared to be a clean block.

Our bigs (all 2 of them) have improved drastically, as have overall rebounding. Great job staff!


_Fan, what were the metrics typically required for a oscar win (efg/to%/???)?  The same metrics apply to this team or is revision warranted? I ask, because 50% efg games don't seem to be the norm this season (maybe with continued improvement will be?)

Nino played about 5 minutes at center yesterday...   :gocho:
Title: Re: The Few? The Proud? The oscar! Gonzaga ADV
Post by: ChiComCat on December 22, 2013, 10:26:20 AM
They should of taken the big european on more pick n' rolls.  He couldn't defend those to save his life
Title: Re: The Few? The Proud? The oscar! Gonzaga ADV
Post by: EMAWzified on December 22, 2013, 10:36:19 AM
Four turnovers is outrageous, but also I think reflective of Gonzaga's lack of athleticism. Sincerely couldn't see that team finishing in the top five of the Big 12 even with a healthy Gower.
Title: Re: The Few? The Proud? The oscar! Gonzaga ADV
Post by: Panjandrum on December 22, 2013, 11:25:22 AM
Four turnovers is outrageous, but also I think reflective of Gonzaga's lack of athleticism. Sincerely couldn't see that team finishing in the top five of the Big 12 even with a healthy Gower.

I kept thinking that David Stockton has to be their Will Spradling.  Probably pretty divisive amongst their fans.

I haven't looked at stats, but I'm shocked they let him play as much as he does.
Title: Re: The Few? The Proud? The oscar! Gonzaga ADV
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 22, 2013, 12:52:51 PM
Four turnovers is outrageous, but also I think reflective of Gonzaga's lack of athleticism. Sincerely couldn't see that team finishing in the top five of the Big 12 even with a healthy Gower.

I kept thinking that David Stockton has to be their Will Spradling.  Probably pretty divisive amongst their fans.

I haven't looked at stats, but I'm shocked they let him play as much as he does.

i rewatched the game(thanks houcat!) this morning. I don't know how many times Pangos and Stockton got knocked down. Refs rarely called anything.
Title: Re: The Few? The Proud? The oscar! Gonzaga ADV
Post by: CNS on December 22, 2013, 12:59:08 PM
Yeah, but there were some bigs stuff called both ways that has no chance of being called in conf.  Evens out.
Title: Re: The Few? The Proud? The oscar! Gonzaga ADV
Post by: Bloodfart on December 22, 2013, 11:36:35 PM
Dat FT%!  :Carl: