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Just said it now during Aldrich's press conference on 810. Self also noted that they had known Cole was leaving since last year.
powerespect talking point #3,765 = DEAD
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Probably to avoid a civil law suit. Self already cost Cole millions for forcing him back last year.
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Both Cole and Collins should have left a long time ago, dude.
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Just said it now during Aldrich's press conference on 810. Self also noted that they had known Cole was leaving since last year.
powerespect talking point #3,765 = DEAD
Good to know this has been grinding on you. We will be sure to continue the talking point. FWIW, Self only knew that Cole was leaving because he knew nobody was stupid enough to see their stock drop 3 consecutive years and come back.
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Just said it now during Aldrich's press conference on 810. Self also noted that they had known Cole was leaving since last year.
powerespect talking point #3,765 = DEAD
"...his kind isn't welcome here anymore."
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Bill Self is a rough ridin' liar.
He lies with this head and his mouth.
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Ben is one of those kinds of kids who believes everything that comes out of the mouth of people at ku.
Sad how gullible some people are.
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lols, what was he suppose to say??? He's not gonna pull a Pete Carroll.
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i hope the heat draft him so he can get worked by an underachieving beasley during practice everyday.
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Probably to avoid a civil law suit. Self already cost Cole millions for forcing him back last year.
Was he projected higher than 6th overall in last year's draft?
http://www.draftexpress.com/ (http://www.draftexpress.com/)
The guy attended KU basketball camps as a kid. He always wanted to be a Jayhawk. Aldrich was also the Academic All-American of the Year and will be the first person in his family to get a college degree once he finishes 12 more hours.
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Probably to avoid a civil law suit. Self already cost Cole millions for forcing him back last year.
Was he projected higher than 6th overall in last year's draft?
http://www.draftexpress.com/ (http://www.draftexpress.com/)
The guy attended KU basketball camps as a kid. He always wanted to be a Jayhawk. Aldrich was also the Academic All-American of the Year and will be the first person in his family to get a college degree once he finishes 12 more hours.
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Looks like the video33productions vid is going just swell on YT. :combofan:
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Probably to avoid a civil law suit. Self already cost Cole millions for forcing him back last year.
Was he projected higher than 6th overall in last year's draft?
http://www.draftexpress.com/ (http://www.draftexpress.com/)
The guy attended KU basketball camps as a kid. He always wanted to be a Jayhawk. Aldrich was also the Academic All-American of the Year and will be the first person in his family to get a college degree once he finishes 12 more hours.
Time to get off his sack, he's gone.
Time to start pimping the mongloids.
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Both Cole and Collins should have left a long time ago, dude.
Yeah, dude... Sherron should have totally bolted for that 2nd round non-guaranteed contract.
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Let's take it fracking easy on the "college degree" bullshit here.
The RIGHT thing happened here. I personally believe that in this situation, Bill probably did tell him to GTFO and go get paid.
HOWEVER, I also believe that Bill SHOULD have done this last year....if Cole had gotten hurt this year, his family would have suffered to a much greater degree than Cole enjoyed this year. That was wreckless, but it worked.
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Probably to avoid a civil law suit. Self already cost Cole millions for forcing him back last year.
Was he projected higher than 6th overall in last year's draft?
http://www.draftexpress.com/ (http://www.draftexpress.com/)
The guy attended KU basketball camps as a kid. He always wanted to be a Jayhawk. Aldrich was also the Academic All-American of the Year and will be the first person in his family to get a college degree once he finishes 12 more hours.
Only at KU! :lol:
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Both Cole and Collins should have left a long time ago, dude.
Yeah, dude... Sherron should have totally bolted for that 2nd round non-guaranteed contract.
Agreed on Sherron.
Sherron stayed because that was the best option. He'll make a fine living if he can stay out of trouble....heck, he could make a mint playing Euro ball. Though, I really don't think that the EURO ball structure is sound enough to ensure that Sherron stays focused. He's his own worst enemy.
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a week ago Self was quoted as saying leaving might not be the best thing for him and his family.
So, which is it? Self was lying then or today?
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Everyone with an type of insidery information knows a financial deal was struck by Self/Compton to keep Collins and Aldrich around another year.
One more year like this year, and Aldrich's NBA stock plummets.
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Aldrich was also the Academic All-American of the Year and will be the first person in his family to get a college degree once he finishes 12 more hours.
What a garbage family.
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Probably to avoid a civil law suit. Self already cost Cole millions for forcing him back last year.
Was he projected higher than 6th overall in last year's draft?
http://www.draftexpress.com/ (http://www.draftexpress.com/)
The guy attended KU basketball camps as a kid. He always wanted to be a Jayhawk. Aldrich was also the Academic All-American of the Year and will be the first person in his family to get a college degree once he finishes 12 more hours.
Ben, hate owning you, bro. The Aldrich's should file a law suit to get back the millions and millions Self cost them by lying.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Cole-Aldrich-1250/ (http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Cole-Aldrich-1250/)
It’s still up in the air whether Aldrich will test the draft waters this year, but if he does, he should be firmly in lottery discussions right off the bat. Given his prototypical size, tremendous wingspan, solid athleticism, high motor, the learning curve he’s shown, and the fact that he already does a few things at an NBA level despite being very early in his development, teams could become quite enamored with his potential, and he could quite easily creep into the single digits.
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Everyone with an type of insidery information knows a financial deal was struck by Self/Compton to keep Collins and Aldrich around another year.
One more year like this year, and Aldrich's NBA stock plummets.
It's not like they got rich....it kept the bill collectors away long enough to commute back and forth to Lawrence for the games.
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Oh I know, they didn't reap the mother lode at all, just a nice "stipend".
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Probably to avoid a civil law suit. Self already cost Cole millions for forcing him back last year.
Was he projected higher than 6th overall in last year's draft?
http://www.draftexpress.com/ (http://www.draftexpress.com/)
The guy attended KU basketball camps as a kid. He always wanted to be a Jayhawk. Aldrich was also the Academic All-American of the Year and will be the first person in his family to get a college degree once he finishes 12 more hours.
Ben, hate owning you, bro. The Aldrich's should file a law suit to get back the millions and millions Self cost them by lying.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Cole-Aldrich-1250/ (http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Cole-Aldrich-1250/)
It’s still up in the air whether Aldrich will test the draft waters this year, but if he does, he should be firmly in lottery discussions right off the bat. Given his prototypical size, tremendous wingspan, solid athleticism, high motor, the learning curve he’s shown, and the fact that he already does a few things at an NBA level despite being very early in his development, teams could become quite enamored with his potential, and he could quite easily creep into the single digits.
My point was that Aldrich didn't lose any value. He's projected 6th overall by draftexpress for the 2010 NBA Draft.
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Re: Self: "I would strongly discourage him (Aldrich) from coming back"
translation: i'm throwing in the towel, this kid cannot be coached
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Probably to avoid a civil law suit. Self already cost Cole millions for forcing him back last year.
Was he projected higher than 6th overall in last year's draft?
http://www.draftexpress.com/ (http://www.draftexpress.com/)
The guy attended KU basketball camps as a kid. He always wanted to be a Jayhawk. Aldrich was also the Academic All-American of the Year and will be the first person in his family to get a college degree once he finishes 12 more hours.
Ben, hate owning you, bro. The Aldrich's should file a law suit to get back the millions and millions Self cost them by lying.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Cole-Aldrich-1250/ (http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Cole-Aldrich-1250/)
It’s still up in the air whether Aldrich will test the draft waters this year, but if he does, he should be firmly in lottery discussions right off the bat. Given his prototypical size, tremendous wingspan, solid athleticism, high motor, the learning curve he’s shown, and the fact that he already does a few things at an NBA level despite being very early in his development, teams could become quite enamored with his potential, and he could quite easily creep into the single digits.
My point was that Aldrich didn't lose any value. He's projected 6th overall by draftexpress for the 2010 NBA Draft.
Self cost the Aldrich's millions and millions of dollars by lying to him. JFC, Ben, Cole's projection not changing that much doesn't make his decision to come back a smarter one.
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Opportunity cost.
I though Cole was a personal finance major? Yikes.
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Just said it now during Aldrich's press conference on 810. Self also noted that they had known Cole was leaving since last year.
powerespect talking point #3,765 = DEAD
WTF did you expect him to say then if he knew Cole wasn't coming back? When he knows there's no chance a player is coming back, of course, he's going to say he discouraged him from coming back. When there's a chance the player will return he's going to STRONGLY encourage them to come back if he sees them as worthwhile to him. Self only cares about himself and proves it once again.
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Let's take it fracking easy on the "college degree" bullshit here.
The RIGHT thing happened here. I personally believe that in this situation, Bill probably did tell him to GTFO and go get paid.
HOWEVER, I also believe that Bill SHOULD have done this last year....if Cole had gotten hurt this year, his family would have suffered to a much greater degree than Cole enjoyed this year. That was wreckless, but it worked.
Why is it so hard to believe that Aldrich wanted to come back? I don't see why it's so inconceivable that a kid who grew up attending KU basketball camps, and a kid who obviously enjoyed the college experience, wanted to return for one more season at KU.
:dunno:
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Let's take it fracking easy on the "college degree" bullshit here.
The RIGHT thing happened here. I personally believe that in this situation, Bill probably did tell him to GTFO and go get paid.
HOWEVER, I also believe that Bill SHOULD have done this last year....if Cole had gotten hurt this year, his family would have suffered to a much greater degree than Cole enjoyed this year. That was wreckless, but it worked.
Why is it so hard to believe that Aldrich wanted to come back? I don't see why it's so inconceivable that a kid who grew up attending KU basketball camps, and a kid who obviously enjoyed the college experience, wanted to return for one more season at KU.
:dunno:
I know i would want to come back and lose in the first weekend of the tourney to a MVC school :dunno:
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Let's take it fracking easy on the "college degree" bullshit here.
The RIGHT thing happened here. I personally believe that in this situation, Bill probably did tell him to GTFO and go get paid.
HOWEVER, I also believe that Bill SHOULD have done this last year....if Cole had gotten hurt this year, his family would have suffered to a much greater degree than Cole enjoyed this year. That was wreckless, but it worked.
Why is it so hard to believe that Aldrich wanted to come back? I don't see why it's so inconceivable that a kid who grew up attending KU basketball camps, and a kid who obviously enjoyed the college experience, wanted to return for one more season at KU.
:dunno:
I know i would want to come back and lose in the first weekend of the tourney to a MVC school :dunno:
Yeah... everyone was totally expecting a 2nd round flameout after KU went 33-2 and entered the tourney as the #1 overall team.
:jerk:
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Let's take it fracking easy on the "college degree" bullshit here.
The RIGHT thing happened here. I personally believe that in this situation, Bill probably did tell him to GTFO and go get paid.
HOWEVER, I also believe that Bill SHOULD have done this last year....if Cole had gotten hurt this year, his family would have suffered to a much greater degree than Cole enjoyed this year. That was wreckless, but it worked.
Why is it so hard to believe that Aldrich wanted to come back? I don't see why it's so inconceivable that a kid who grew up attending KU basketball camps, and a kid who obviously enjoyed the college experience, wanted to return for one more season at KU.
:dunno:
Cause it's so incredibly, irresponsibly stupid that someone, hell I don't know his f'ing coach or something, should have told the freaking 20 year old about the real world.
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Let's take it fracking easy on the "college degree" bullshit here.
The RIGHT thing happened here. I personally believe that in this situation, Bill probably did tell him to GTFO and go get paid.
HOWEVER, I also believe that Bill SHOULD have done this last year....if Cole had gotten hurt this year, his family would have suffered to a much greater degree than Cole enjoyed this year. That was wreckless, but it worked.
Why is it so hard to believe that Aldrich wanted to come back? I don't see why it's so inconceivable that a kid who grew up attending KU basketball camps, and a kid who obviously enjoyed the college experience, wanted to return for one more season at KU.
:dunno:
I know i would want to come back and lose in the first weekend of the tourney to a MVC school :dunno:
Yeah... everyone was totally expecting a 2nd round flameout after KU went 33-2 and entered the tourney as the #1 overall team.
:jerk:
I know. Completely unacceptable, right???
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Let's take it fracking easy on the "college degree" bullshit here.
The RIGHT thing happened here. I personally believe that in this situation, Bill probably did tell him to GTFO and go get paid.
HOWEVER, I also believe that Bill SHOULD have done this last year....if Cole had gotten hurt this year, his family would have suffered to a much greater degree than Cole enjoyed this year. That was wreckless, but it worked.
Why is it so hard to believe that Aldrich wanted to come back? I don't see why it's so inconceivable that a kid who grew up attending KU basketball camps, and a kid who obviously enjoyed the college experience, wanted to return for one more season at KU.
:dunno:
Cause it's so incredibly, irresponsibly stupid that someone, hell I don't know his f'ing coach or something, should have told the freaking 20 year old about the real world.
You don't think Aldrich knew he would have been a lottery pick? Are you mildly Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) or something?
:confused:
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Let's take it fracking easy on the "college degree" bullshit here.
The RIGHT thing happened here. I personally believe that in this situation, Bill probably did tell him to GTFO and go get paid.
HOWEVER, I also believe that Bill SHOULD have done this last year....if Cole had gotten hurt this year, his family would have suffered to a much greater degree than Cole enjoyed this year. That was wreckless, but it worked.
Why is it so hard to believe that Aldrich wanted to come back? I don't see why it's so inconceivable that a kid who grew up attending KU basketball camps, and a kid who obviously enjoyed the college experience, wanted to return for one more season at KU.
:dunno:
I know i would want to come back and lose in the first weekend of the tourney to a MVC school :dunno:
Outside of attending ku in first place, not leaving last year was the biggest mistake of that kid's life.
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Let's take it fracking easy on the "college degree" bullshit here.
The RIGHT thing happened here. I personally believe that in this situation, Bill probably did tell him to GTFO and go get paid.
HOWEVER, I also believe that Bill SHOULD have done this last year....if Cole had gotten hurt this year, his family would have suffered to a much greater degree than Cole enjoyed this year. That was wreckless, but it worked.
Why is it so hard to believe that Aldrich wanted to come back? I don't see why it's so inconceivable that a kid who grew up attending KU basketball camps, and a kid who obviously enjoyed the college experience, wanted to return for one more season at KU.
:dunno:
I know i would want to come back and lose in the first weekend of the tourney to a MVC school :dunno:
Outside of attending ku in first place, not leaving last year was the biggest mistake of that kid's life.
So true, man. Academic All-American of the Year. 1st-team All Big 12. Big 12 Defensive Player of the Year. Back-to-back-to-back Big 12 regular season titles. Two Big 12 tournament titles. One National Championship. AP 3rd-team All-American.
What a terrible career.
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He would have gone so much higher had he left last season. What a god damn slave driver. :cry:
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Let's take it fracking easy on the "college degree" bullshit here.
The RIGHT thing happened here. I personally believe that in this situation, Bill probably did tell him to GTFO and go get paid.
HOWEVER, I also believe that Bill SHOULD have done this last year....if Cole had gotten hurt this year, his family would have suffered to a much greater degree than Cole enjoyed this year. That was wreckless, but it worked.
Why is it so hard to believe that Aldrich wanted to come back? I don't see why it's so inconceivable that a kid who grew up attending KU basketball camps, and a kid who obviously enjoyed the college experience, wanted to return for one more season at KU.
:dunno:
Cause it's so incredibly, irresponsibly stupid that someone, hell I don't know his f'ing coach or something, should have told the freaking 20 year old about the real world.
You don't think Aldrich knew he would have been a lottery pick? Are you mildly Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) or something?
:confused:
he only knows what bill and bill's "contacts" tell him. "uh, uh, they, uh, uh, said you'd probably be, uh, uh maybe go second round".
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Let's take it fracking easy on the "college degree" bullshit here.
The RIGHT thing happened here. I personally believe that in this situation, Bill probably did tell him to GTFO and go get paid.
HOWEVER, I also believe that Bill SHOULD have done this last year....if Cole had gotten hurt this year, his family would have suffered to a much greater degree than Cole enjoyed this year. That was wreckless, but it worked.
Why is it so hard to believe that Aldrich wanted to come back? I don't see why it's so inconceivable that a kid who grew up attending KU basketball camps, and a kid who obviously enjoyed the college experience, wanted to return for one more season at KU.
:dunno:
I know i would want to come back and lose in the first weekend of the tourney to a MVC school :dunno:
Outside of attending ku in first place, not leaving last year was the biggest mistake of that kid's life.
So true, man. Academic All-American of the Year. 1st-team All Big 12. Big 12 Defensive Player of the Year. Back-to-back-to-back Big 12 regular season titles. Two Big 12 tournament titles. One National Championship. AP 3rd-team All-American.
What a terrible career.
How much did he get paid for those "awards"? If your answer is "nothing", then it was a terrible career move. If your answer is "nobody is really sure but it was decent. Compton takes care of those who stay." then ku is cheating. Not that anyone would be surprised.
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Let's take it fracking easy on the "college degree" bullshit here.
The RIGHT thing happened here. I personally believe that in this situation, Bill probably did tell him to GTFO and go get paid.
HOWEVER, I also believe that Bill SHOULD have done this last year....if Cole had gotten hurt this year, his family would have suffered to a much greater degree than Cole enjoyed this year. That was wreckless, but it worked.
Why is it so hard to believe that Aldrich wanted to come back? I don't see why it's so inconceivable that a kid who grew up attending KU basketball camps, and a kid who obviously enjoyed the college experience, wanted to return for one more season at KU.
:dunno:
I know i would want to come back and lose in the first weekend of the tourney to a MVC school :dunno:
Yeah... everyone was totally expecting a 2nd round flameout after KU went 33-2 and entered the tourney as the #1 overall team.
Doesn't KU have the NCAA record for that exact same thing? Should everyone start expecting it?
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Honestly, I can't think of a more hilarious thing to discuss than a D1 college athlete's academics. Unless one actually didn't make grades. Now that would be something to discuss.
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Gurley on with Kietz shredding Cole's offensive game and also knocking X. Henry.
It is tru you can never go back. The second you tell Self you are leaving he burns you down, and his people do it too.
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He would have gone so much higher had he left last season. What a god damn slave driver. :cry:
www.draftexpress.com
1 Nets John Wall PG
Kentucky, Freshman
2 Timberwolves Evan Turner SG/SF
Ohio State, Junior
3 Warriors DeMarcus Cousins C
Kentucky, Freshman
4 Pacers Derrick Favors PF/C
Georgia Tech, Freshman
5 Wizards Al-Farouq Aminu SF/PF
Wake Forest, Sophomore
6 Pistons Cole Aldrich C
Kansas, Junior
7 76ers Ed Davis PF
North Carolina, Sophomore
8 Kings Wesley Johnson SF/PF
Syracuse, Junior
9 Jazz Greg Monroe PF/C
Georgetown, Sophomore
10 Clippers Patrick Patterson PF
Kentucky, Junior
11 Bulls Jan Vesely SF
KK Partizan Belgrade, International
12 Hornets Donatas Motiejunas PF/C
Benetton Treviso, International
13 Grizzlies Ekpe Udoh PF/C
Baylor, Junior
14 Rockets Xavier Henry SG
Kansas, Freshman
Which one of these guys does Aldrich beat out for 5th in the '09 NBA Draft, Steve?
1. Blake Griffin
2. Hasheem Thabeet
3. James Harden
4. Tyreke Evans
5. Ricky Rubio
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Gurley on with Kietz shredding Cole's offensive game and also knocking X. Henry.
It is tru you can never go back. The second you tell Self you are leaving he burns you down, and his people do it too.
Gurley just said, "If they're (NBA) gonna take you, and they're gonna pay you, go."
Are we living in an alternate universe or something?
:confused:
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He would have gone so much higher had he left last season. What a god damn slave driver. :cry:
www.draftexpress.com
1 Nets John Wall PG
Kentucky, Freshman
2 Timberwolves Evan Turner SG/SF
Ohio State, Junior
3 Warriors DeMarcus Cousins C
Kentucky, Freshman
4 Pacers Derrick Favors PF/C
Georgia Tech, Freshman
5 Wizards Al-Farouq Aminu SF/PF
Wake Forest, Sophomore
6 Pistons Cole Aldrich C
Kansas, Junior
7 76ers Ed Davis PF
North Carolina, Sophomore
8 Kings Wesley Johnson SF/PF
Syracuse, Junior
9 Jazz Greg Monroe PF/C
Georgetown, Sophomore
10 Clippers Patrick Patterson PF
Kentucky, Junior
11 Bulls Jan Vesely SF
KK Partizan Belgrade, International
12 Hornets Donatas Motiejunas PF/C
Benetton Treviso, International
13 Grizzlies Ekpe Udoh PF/C
Baylor, Junior
14 Rockets Xavier Henry SG
Kansas, Freshman
Which one of these guys does Aldrich beat out for 5th in the '09 NBA Draft, Steve?
1. Blake Griffin
2. Hasheem Thabeet
3. James Harden
4. Tyreke Evans
5. Ricky Rubio
I bet the Wolves grab him at 5.
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Gurley on with Kietz shredding Cole's offensive game and also knocking X. Henry.
It is tru you can never go back. The second you tell Self you are leaving he burns you down, and his people do it too.
Gurley just said, "If they're (NBA) gonna take you, and they're gonna pay you, go."
Are we living in an alternate universe or something?
:confused:
it would appear we are living in one where somehow you got into college without being able to read even simple sentences.
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Gurley on with Kietz shredding Cole's offensive game and also knocking X. Henry.
It is tru you can never go back. The second you tell Self you are leaving he burns you down, and his people do it too.
Gurley just said, "If they're (NBA) gonna take you, and they're gonna pay you, go."
Are we living in an alternate universe or something?
:confused:
it would appear we are living in one where somehow you got into college without being able to read even simple sentences.
I must be dreaming... I thought you implied Gurley was tearing apart Aldrich for leaving KU.
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Gurley on with Kietz shredding Cole's offensive game and also knocking X. Henry.
It is tru you can never go back. The second you tell Self you are leaving he burns you down, and his people do it too.
Gurley just said, "If they're (NBA) gonna take you, and they're gonna pay you, go."
Are we living in an alternate universe or something?
:confused:
it would appear we are living in one where somehow you got into college without being able to read even simple sentences.
I must be dreaming... I thought you implied Gurley was tearing apart Aldrich for leaving KU.
No, you just aren't very quick.
He was tearing apart his offensive game, as I obviously said in the first part of my post. I can see why you prefer to beat KSU in the regular season as opposed to advanceing past the first round of the NCAA tornament.
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"uh, uh, they, uh, uh, said you'd probably be, uh, uh maybe go second round".
That reminds me, how did the closed captioning handle Stuttering Bill's performance in studio on Saturday?
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"I would strongly discourage him (Aldrich) from coming back"
Just because Self said he would doesn't mean he did. Self should have said "did discourage him"
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Gurley on with Kietz shredding Cole's offensive game and also knocking X. Henry.
It is tru you can never go back. The second you tell Self you are leaving he burns you down, and his people do it too.
Gurley just said, "If they're (NBA) gonna take you, and they're gonna pay you, go."
Are we living in an alternate universe or something?
:confused:
it would appear we are living in one where somehow you got into college without being able to read even simple sentences.
I must be dreaming... I thought you implied Gurley was tearing apart Aldrich for leaving KU.
No, you just aren't very quick.
He was tearing apart his offensive game, as I obviously said in the first part of my post. I can see why you prefer to beat KSU in the regular season as opposed to advanceing past the first round of the NCAA tornament.
Let me rephrase... You implied Gurley was tearing apart Aldrich's offensive game because he was leaving KU. Hence the whole "the second you tell Self you are leaving he burns you down, and his people do it too."
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Ben is one of those kinds of kids who believes everything that comes out of the mouth of people at ku.
Sad how gullible some people are.
IIRC, aren't you a republican? HYPOCRITE
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So wait, you want us to applaud Self for saying "Good for Cole to leave now" after Cole already made up his mind. If he knew Cole was leaving last year, why would he say in the X-Henry piece "Leaving early might not be best for Cole?" He was still trying to convince Cole to stay. See the post that Pete made after the UNI loss about Self talking him into staying. I have a friend who works on the team who told me that Self tried to talk him into staying before they all left the locker room.
Self is such a selfish ass.
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If Self knew over a year ago that Cole would be gone this year, Cole should have gone a year ago. No way you can argue that, really.
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If Self knew over a year ago that Cole would be gone this year, Cole should have gone a year ago. No way you can argue that, really.
Argue what? Cole wanted to return to KU for his junior season. There's nothing to argue.
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If Self knew over a year ago that Cole would be gone this year, Cole should have gone a year ago. No way you can argue that, really.
Argue what? Cole wanted to return to KU for his junior season. There's nothing to argue.
If you're 100% sure that's the case, then his coach gave him poor advice. No way you can argue that, really.
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If Self knew over a year ago that Cole would be gone this year, Cole should have gone a year ago. No way you can argue that, really.
Argue what? Cole wanted to return to KU for his junior season. There's nothing to argue.
If you're 100% sure that's the case, then his coach gave him poor advice. No way you can argue that, really.
I think what we all can agree on is that Self couldn't give a sh*t less about what's best for his players.
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Ben is one of those kinds of kids who believes everything that comes out of the mouth of people at ku.
Sad how gullible some people are.
IIRC, aren't you a republican? HYPOCRITE
For chrissake, coolhawks.
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Gurley on with Kietz shredding Cole's offensive game and also knocking X. Henry.
It is tru you can never go back. The second you tell Self you are leaving he burns you down, and his people do it too.
Gurley just said, "If they're (NBA) gonna take you, and they're gonna pay you, go."
Are we living in an alternate universe or something?
:confused:
it would appear we are living in one where somehow you got into college without being able to read even simple sentences.
I must be dreaming... I thought you implied Gurley was tearing apart Aldrich for leaving KU.
No, you just aren't very quick.
He was tearing apart his offensive game, as I obviously said in the first part of my post. I can see why you prefer to beat KSU in the regular season as opposed to advanceing past the first round of the NCAA tornament.
Let me rephrase... You implied Gurley was tearing apart Aldrich's offensive game because he was leaving KU. Hence the whole "the second you tell Self you are leaving he burns you down, and his people do it too."
The day Cole announced, Gurley is on 810 trashing Cole's offensive game. This is a fact. His comments about going to the NBA are ridiculous considering the NBA was going to take Cole and was paying last year.
LOL at Self's hit squads.
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Re: Self: "I would strongly discourage him (Aldrich) from coming back"
translation: i'm throwing in the towel, this kid cannot be coached ruined.
FYP
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The only reason Seff attempted to make it seem like he wanted a player to go was for damage control from the YT vid and the perception on the cruiting trail that he holds kids back. Or, he's racist and only promotes/pushes white kids.
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Watching him when X leaves will be hilarious.
Did anyone hear Self's forced/overly boisterous laugh when Cole pointed out that Morningstar is probably the oldest man on any campus in America?
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Really hate seeing Ben flail around like he has today.
Sad . . .
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If Self knew over a year ago that Cole would be gone this year, Cole should have gone a year ago. No way you can argue that, really.
Argue what? Cole wanted to return to KU for his junior season. There's nothing to argue.
If you're 100% sure that's the case, then his coach gave him poor advice. No way you can argue that, really.
How was it poor advice? He's 12 hours from getting his degree, which would be a first for his family. Aldrich is projected to go lottery, just like he was in last year's draft.
:dunno:
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If Self knew over a year ago that Cole would be gone this year, Cole should have gone a year ago. No way you can argue that, really.
Argue what? Cole wanted to return to KU for his junior season. There's nothing to argue.
Yeah but he was also really close to making like 10 million dollars
If you're 100% sure that's the case, then his coach gave him poor advice. No way you can argue that, really.
How was it poor advice? He's 12 hours from getting his degree, which would be a first for his family. Aldrich is projected to go lottery, just like he was in last year's draft.
:dunno:
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If Self knew over a year ago that Cole would be gone this year, Cole should have gone a year ago. No way you can argue that, really.
Argue what? Cole wanted to return to KU for his junior season. There's nothing to argue.
If you're 100% sure that's the case, then his coach gave him poor advice. No way you can argue that, really.
How was it poor advice? He's 12 hours from getting his degree, which would be a first for his family. Aldrich is projected to go lottery, just like he was in last year's draft.
:dunno:
It's poor advice because he was a lottery last year, like you admitted. Unbelievably stupid. Sure, he cost himself millions of dollars, but he's only 12 hours away from that precious degree! :lol:
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If Self knew over a year ago that Cole would be gone this year, Cole should have gone a year ago. No way you can argue that, really.
Argue what? Cole wanted to return to KU for his junior season. There's nothing to argue.
If you're 100% sure that's the case, then his coach gave him poor advice. No way you can argue that, really.
How was it poor advice? He's 12 hours from getting his degree, which would be a first for his family. Aldrich is projected to go lottery, just like he was in last year's draft.
:dunno:
Being 12 hours from a degree means you have no rough ridin' degree.
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If Self knew over a year ago that Cole would be gone this year, Cole should have gone a year ago. No way you can argue that, really.
Argue what? Cole wanted to return to KU for his junior season. There's nothing to argue.
If you're 100% sure that's the case, then his coach gave him poor advice. No way you can argue that, really.
How was it poor advice? He's 12 hours from getting his degree, which would be a first for his family. Aldrich is projected to go lottery, just like he was in last year's draft.
:dunno:
It's poor advice because he was a lottery last year, like you admitted. Unbelievably stupid. Sure, he cost himself millions of dollars, but he's only 12 hours away from that precious degree! :lol:
A ku degree. I might let him roof my lake house.
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If Self knew over a year ago that Cole would be gone this year, Cole should have gone a year ago. No way you can argue that, really.
Argue what? Cole wanted to return to KU for his junior season. There's nothing to argue.
If you're 100% sure that's the case, then his coach gave him poor advice. No way you can argue that, really.
How was it poor advice? He's 12 hours from getting his degree, which would be a first for his family. Aldrich is projected to go lottery, just like he was in last year's draft.
:dunno:
It's poor advice because he was a lottery last year, like you admitted. Unbelievably stupid. Sure, he cost himself millions of dollars, but he's only 12 hours away from that precious degree! :lol:
A ku degree. I might let him roof my lake house.
KU fans say the exact same thing about K-State. There's really not much difference between either school.
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If Self knew over a year ago that Cole would be gone this year, Cole should have gone a year ago. No way you can argue that, really.
Argue what? Cole wanted to return to KU for his junior season. There's nothing to argue.
If you're 100% sure that's the case, then his coach gave him poor advice. No way you can argue that, really.
How was it poor advice? He's 12 hours from getting his degree, which would be a first for his family. Aldrich is projected to go lottery, just like he was in last year's draft.
:dunno:
It's poor advice because he was a lottery last year, like you admitted. Unbelievably stupid. Sure, he cost himself millions of dollars, but he's only 12 hours away from that precious degree! :lol:
A ku degree. I might let him roof my lake house.
KU fans say the exact same thing about K-State. There's really not much difference between either school.
ku fans are copying us?
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Funny crap. A couple of KU fans that I am friends with on FB said that they just saw a commercial of adult swim's next episode and I guess they made fun of KU's loss to UNI and called them a bunch of wheat eaters. Would LOVE to see that. Exact quote....
just saw a commercial on adult swim hating on KU for losing to UNI....wtf
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He would have gone so much higher had he left last season. What a god damn slave driver. :cry:
www.draftexpress.com
1 Nets John Wall PG
Kentucky, Freshman
2 Timberwolves Evan Turner SG/SF
Ohio State, Junior
3 Warriors DeMarcus Cousins C
Kentucky, Freshman
4 Pacers Derrick Favors PF/C
Georgia Tech, Freshman
5 Wizards Al-Farouq Aminu SF/PF
Wake Forest, Sophomore
6 Pistons Cole Aldrich C
Kansas, Junior
7 76ers Ed Davis PF
North Carolina, Sophomore
8 Kings Wesley Johnson SF/PF
Syracuse, Junior
9 Jazz Greg Monroe PF/C
Georgetown, Sophomore
10 Clippers Patrick Patterson PF
Kentucky, Junior
11 Bulls Jan Vesely SF
KK Partizan Belgrade, International
12 Hornets Donatas Motiejunas PF/C
Benetton Treviso, International
13 Grizzlies Ekpe Udoh PF/C
Baylor, Junior
14 Rockets Xavier Henry SG
Kansas, Freshman
Which one of these guys does Aldrich beat out for 5th in the '09 NBA Draft, Steve?
1. Blake Griffin
2. Hasheem Thabeet
3. James Harden
4. Tyreke Evans
5. Ricky Rubio
We all know (or at least any of us who have ever paid attention to the NBA draft and/or read a Bill Simmons column) that with all the trades and movements, the draft is a total crapshoot. Nobody knew how it would go down last year after Griffin and Thabeet. Nobody knows how it will go down this year after Wall, Turner and Cousins. If Aldrich ends up top 10 this year, I'll be stunned. Bottom line- Cole cost himself a year of amazing salary by staying for an extra year. He may have been drafted a few spots higher or a few spots lower last year. Doesn't matter. The difference is that he didn't get paid (by the NBA) for 2009-2010 and he'll never get that $$$ back (legally).
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If Self knew over a year ago that Cole would be gone this year, Cole should have gone a year ago. No way you can argue that, really.
Argue what? Cole wanted to return to KU for his junior season. There's nothing to argue.
If you're 100% sure that's the case, then his coach gave him poor advice. No way you can argue that, really.
How was it poor advice? He's 12 hours from getting his degree, which would be a first for his family. Aldrich is projected to go lottery, just like he was in last year's draft.
:dunno:
It's poor advice because he was a lottery last year, like you admitted. Unbelievably stupid. Sure, he cost himself millions of dollars, but he's only 12 hours away from that precious degree! :lol:
A ku degree. I might let him roof my lake house.
KU fans say the exact same thing about K-State. There's really not much difference between either school.
Diff is in departments not overall uni.
For instance, our Eng dept smokes yours.
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BMW- getting owned again.
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BMW- getting owned again.
In fairness to beems, Self doesn't make it easy on anyone defending ku. He does/says some really crappy stuff when it comes to any player leaving early. The Cole fiasco was bad but no worse than anything before. Bill, if you knew Cole was leaving a year ago, why tell the media it might be best for him to stay only a week ago? Pretty F'ed up to drag the kid down.
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9. Indiana Pacers: Cole Aldrich, C, Kansas
Big, white and stiff? It'd
be funny if it weren't sad.
Cole: the next Hans-bro.
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If Self knew over a year ago that Cole would be gone this year, Cole should have gone a year ago. No way you can argue that, really.
Argue what? Cole wanted to return to KU for his junior season. There's nothing to argue.
If you're 100% sure that's the case, then his coach gave him poor advice. No way you can argue that, really.
How was it poor advice? He's 12 hours from getting his degree, which would be a first for his family. Aldrich is projected to go lottery, just like he was in last year's draft.
:dunno:
It's poor advice because he was a lottery last year, like you admitted. Unbelievably stupid. Sure, he cost himself millions of dollars, but he's only 12 hours away from that precious degree! :lol:
So you think every decision made in life should be money-based? You sound like a Republican.
:rolleyes:
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If Self knew over a year ago that Cole would be gone this year, Cole should have gone a year ago. No way you can argue that, really.
shocking, bmw is a hippy liberal from low-rents :jerk:
Argue what? Cole wanted to return to KU for his junior season. There's nothing to argue.
If you're 100% sure that's the case, then his coach gave him poor advice. No way you can argue that, really.
How was it poor advice? He's 12 hours from getting his degree, which would be a first for his family. Aldrich is projected to go lottery, just like he was in last year's draft.
:dunno:
It's poor advice because he was a lottery last year, like you admitted. Unbelievably stupid. Sure, he cost himself millions of dollars, but he's only 12 hours away from that precious degree! :lol:
So you think every decision made in life should be money-based? You sound like a Republican.
:rolleyes:
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When your family is unemployed trailer trash, money SHOULD be the top priority.
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I think you pretty much nailed moonbeam's family there.
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When your family is unemployed trailer trash, money SHOULD be the top priority.
What is it with you people? Is there a course at K-State called Assholes 101?
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Its more like a 220 course.
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But really Beems, good comeback. I think you pretty much shut us up with the idea of K-State offering a class on how to be mean. Right to the heart with that one.
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9. Indiana Pacers: Cole Aldrich, C, Kansas
Big, white and stiff? It'd
be funny if it weren't sad.
Cole: the next Hans-bro.
sounds like I've got a new nickname for my penis.
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But really Beems, good comeback. I think you pretty much shut us up with the idea of K-State offering a class on how to be mean. Right to the heart with that one.
I don't see anything mean about what OK said. What is mean is Self trying to deny that white trash family their pay day by keeping their boy in school.
Seriously, it is time for them to buy a fancy house and start measuring for their cement pond.
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You guys are the main reason I'm happy that Butler beat that ass in the Elite Eight, and your school hasn't sniffed a Final Four since the 1960's. Just a bunch of trashy fans with a chip on their shoulder when it comes to KU.
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You guys are the main reason I'm happy that Butler beat that ass in the Elite Eight, and your school hasn't sniffed a Final Four since the 1960's. Just a bunch of trashy fans with a chip on their shoulder when it comes to KU.
Right. Otherwise you would be cheering us on.
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Actually, I probably would. I gained a ton of respect for Frank after listening to his press conferences and following his program over the years. Your fanbase, aside from the occasional Pete, is primarily made up of a bunch of redneck assholes (with a huge chip on their shoulder when it comes to KU).
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You guys are the main reason I'm happy that Butler beat that ass in the Elite Eight, and your school hasn't sniffed a Final Four since the 1960's. Just a bunch of trashy fans with a chip on their shoulder when it comes to KU.
:D
That's the spirit! Pretend UNI didn't make ku the most embarassing sports story of the year.
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Actually, I probably would. I gained a ton of respect for Frank after listening to his press conferences and following his program over the years. Your fanbase, aside from the occasional Pete, is primarily made up of a bunch of redneck assholes (with a huge chip on their shoulder when it comes to KU).
petty. school, state, conf
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Actually, I probably would. I gained a ton of respect for Frank after listening to his press conferences and following his program over the years. Your fanbase, aside from the occasional Pete, is primarily made up of a bunch of redneck assholes (with a huge chip on their shoulder when it comes to KU).
Not buying it.
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We're hearing Xavier Henry has decided he's entering the draft. Announcement is expected soon.
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We're hearing Xavier Henry has decided he's entering the draft. Announcement is expected soon.
Isn't that quote from last October? :dunno:
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We're hearing Xavier Henry has decided he's entering the draft. Announcement is expected soon.
Isn't that quote from last October? :dunno:
NBAdraft just tweeted he was gone.
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You guys are the main reason I'm happy that Butler beat that ass in the Elite Eight, and your school hasn't sniffed a Final Four since the 1960's. Just a bunch of trashy fans with a chip on their shoulder when it comes to KU.
Shucks! We almost had another fan! I will never overcome the guilt I have from making fun of UK! NEVER!!!!
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We're hearing Xavier Henry has decided he's entering the draft. Announcement is expected soon.
Isn't that quote from last October? :dunno:
NBAdraft just tweeted he was gone.
Joke. Pretty sure this has been finalized in everyone's mind since before this school year started. Bill may have been the only other one with any plans of a second year.
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Grow a set, Ben. It's a fact that his trailer trash dad is unemployed. I don't think "getting a degree from ku" is more important than "getting millions." Dumbass.
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Actually, I probably would. I gained a ton of respect for Frank after listening to his press conferences and following his program over the years. Your fanbase, aside from the occasional Pete, is primarily made up of a bunch of redneck assholes (with a huge chip on their shoulder when it comes to KU).
:cheers:
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Beems with a mancrush on Pete. How cute!
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Beems with a mancrush on Pete. How cute!
Get in line, bro.
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Beems with a mancrush on Pete. How cute!
And Pete with the reach around for Bennie. :blindfold:
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Beems with a mancrush on Pete. How cute!
And Pete with the reach around for Bennie. :blindfold:
Don't be hateful, Az.
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Beems with a mancrush on Pete. How cute!
And Pete with the reach around for Bennie. :blindfold:
Don't be hateful, Az.
I call 'em as I see 'em Pete. :users:
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For BMW:
There is a reason the nation hates uk, no reason to take it out on us...your non rival
http://www.nbcactionnews.com/sports/story/Why-Other-Fans-Revel-in-Jayhawks-Misery/_srZ48FmqUe_U4fWOHBE1w.cspx
I warned you.
I told you last week the Kansas Jayhawks would break your hearts in the NCAA Tournament, but many of you wouldn’t listen.
Lots of fans became confrontational, and I’m okay with that. I love to verbally spar.
I don’t think there was a KU fan out there who honestly thought the Jayhawks could lose to a mid-major team like Northern Iowa.
That’s the problem.
This KU team was too full of itself. They lost because they don’t have a whole lot of respect for anyone who is considered a lesser opponent.
In this tournament, you cannot be a snob and turn up your nose to any opponent. The rest of the basketball world doesn’t give a flip that the game was invented at your school.
Jayhawk fans are spoiled and take way too much for granted. It’s no wonder that K-State and Mizzou fans take such joy and delight in your pain and misery.
Remember Jayhawkers. It’s only a game. Good luck next year.
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Someone may want to remind them that the game was not invented in or even near Lawrence.
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https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/A48962EE461164794554491510784_3aadf14ba92.1.5.5194792806448536407.mp4?versionId=7V.9L_EqohOabtcoGiQqBlAG46mQIwzf
scrub
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Anybody that makes melo sad makes me sad
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https://vine.co/v/OHigVrj7Y6Z
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:lol:
what a scrub, i wouldn't have picked him up on my team at the rec. junior varsity player at best.
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:lol:
what a scrub, i wouldn't have picked him up on my team at the rec. junior varsity player at best.
where's Beasley at again? oh yeah, in the rice fields in China.
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:lol:
what a scrub, i wouldn't have picked him up on my team at the rec. junior varsity player at best.
where's Beasley at again? oh yeah, in the rice fields in China.
get your racist ass off my board
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:lol:
what a scrub, i wouldn't have picked him up on my team at the rec. junior varsity player at best.
where's Beasley at again? oh yeah, in the rice fields in China.
:jayhook: