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Title: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Havs on November 25, 2013, 11:45:26 AM
Closing in south endzone by 2015.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Skipper44 on November 25, 2013, 11:47:12 AM
Closing in south endzone by 2015.
that should push you well past 60K, right?
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: eastcat on November 25, 2013, 11:51:18 AM
Need rendo's Hav.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Super PurpleCat on November 25, 2013, 11:55:56 AM
Came for the images, was flooded with nothing.   :impatient:
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: steve dave on November 25, 2013, 11:59:19 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.huffpost.com%2Fgen%2F1364773%2Foriginal.jpg&hash=a3f1a55c1f7f3dae4153e40dc33f4082b9b7fad9)
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Havs on November 25, 2013, 12:48:16 PM
This is rendering from 2008 when the comp plan was released:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwPwbJWo.jpg&hash=3b0c26bd4be6fe3f2345216850efdbbf0a31eb51)
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: mocat on November 25, 2013, 12:51:05 PM
This is rendering from 2008 when the comp plan was released:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwPwbJWo.jpg&hash=3b0c26bd4be6fe3f2345216850efdbbf0a31eb51)

why would you post a rendering from 5 years ago?

why would you post a rendering with circus tent material where seats should be?
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: 0.42 on November 25, 2013, 12:51:38 PM
That's clearly a spaceship. Our engineering department is getting outworked :Wha:
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Havs on November 25, 2013, 12:53:07 PM
This is rendering from 2008 when the comp plan was released:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwPwbJWo.jpg&hash=3b0c26bd4be6fe3f2345216850efdbbf0a31eb51)

why would you post a rendering from 5 years ago?

why would you post a rendering with circus tent material where seats should be?

Because they didn't post any. http://www.cyclones.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=209323627&DB_OEM_ID=10700

 :bawl:
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Panjandrum on November 25, 2013, 12:55:33 PM
ISU: We're going to close the stadium.

Fans: How do you plan on doing it?

ISU: Very carefully.  It's going to be great.  Trust me.  Thank you.  Have a nice day.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: michigancat on November 25, 2013, 01:02:52 PM
sledding on that hill looked fun
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 25, 2013, 01:07:13 PM
We'll be proud if it happens.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: KITNfury on November 25, 2013, 01:07:19 PM
This is rendering from 2008 when the comp plan was released:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwPwbJWo.jpg&hash=3b0c26bd4be6fe3f2345216850efdbbf0a31eb51)

why would you post a rendering from 5 years ago?

why would you post a rendering with circus tent material where seats should be?

Because they didn't post any. http://www.cyclones.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=209323627&DB_OEM_ID=10700

 :bawl:
That would be a big improvement.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on November 25, 2013, 01:44:13 PM
Amazing what a team like ISU can parlay a 34-0 thrashing of ku into...  Congrats on lapping ku again in facilities improvments, Havs!!

 :cheers:
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: ew2x4 on November 25, 2013, 02:22:43 PM
Are you sure someone on an ISU forum didn't make that in sketch up? It's free you know.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Havs on November 25, 2013, 02:54:34 PM
Are you sure someone on an ISU forum didn't make that in sketch up? It's free you know.

Oh I know, I've been known to enjoy a Sketchup or two. That came in a press release.

This came along with it (note the old logos, this has been in worse for a while, unfortunately) : (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com%2Fpics3%2F640%2FON%2FONRMQDNDRFVPHIL.20070202151136.jpg&hash=efd084b98fff5b71b13e6a476ee7309236e3b91b)
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Havs on November 25, 2013, 02:59:31 PM
Looks like ISU has a few creative photoshop-ers like seen on this board.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZ8TEo0CIAA8XnK.jpg:large)
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Gooch on November 25, 2013, 03:00:17 PM
Looks like ISU has a few creative photoshop-ers like seen on this board.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZ8TEo0CIAA8XnK.jpg:large)
Needs more mold for accuracy.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: KITNfury on November 25, 2013, 03:01:33 PM
Looks like ISU has a few creative photoshop-ers like seen on this board.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZ8TEo0CIAA8XnK.jpg:large)
I would be very jealous of this depending on what ours looks like.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Havs on November 25, 2013, 04:26:49 PM
Looks like ISU has a few creative photoshop-ers like seen on this board.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZ8TEo0CIAA8XnK.jpg:large)
Needs more mold for accuracy.

Mold was contained to the Hilton complex only, Gooch. I expect better of you.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Gooch on November 25, 2013, 04:47:14 PM
Looks like ISU has a few creative photoshop-ers like seen on this board.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZ8TEo0CIAA8XnK.jpg:large)
Needs more mold for accuracy.

Mold was contained to the Hilton complex only, Gooch. I expect better of you.
:dubious: JTS is down stream from Hilton
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Belvis Noland on November 25, 2013, 05:05:59 PM
how does being terrible at football factor into the likelihood of this ever happening?  serious answers only.  tia. 
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: kslim on November 25, 2013, 06:40:44 PM
What are you talking cash wise here havs? 25 mil doesn't go too far these days
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 25, 2013, 08:46:02 PM
Looks like a cruise ship. Needs more bare cement scaffolding and places for Nazis to shoot WW2 machine guns out of.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 25, 2013, 08:51:12 PM
JK, looks pretty cool. I like the idea of having a retail strip center on top. Could get runza, auto insurance quotes, eye glasses and pick up a prescription all before halftime.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: MakeItRain on November 25, 2013, 10:27:47 PM
Looks like ISU has a few creative photoshop-ers like seen on this board.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZ8TEo0CIAA8XnK.jpg:large)

You can go back to cf and tell them that you aren't getting that for $25 million. They are using that as the unofficial welcome entrance to the campus, sound familiar? With redoing the exterior $25 mil will leave enough money for the seats, concrete, and a concourse. There won't be suites, hall of, fame, or really any amenities at all.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: GoodForAnother on November 25, 2013, 10:35:08 PM
the article said the $25 million is a lead gift, which I'm pretty sure is more than any lead gift we've ever had, so I'm sure ISU will do something very nice
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Havs on November 25, 2013, 10:53:04 PM
the article said the $25 million is a lead gift, which I'm pretty sure is more than any lead gift we've ever had, so I'm sure ISU will do something very nice
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: MakeItRain on November 25, 2013, 10:58:30 PM
the article said the $25 million is a lead gift, which I'm pretty sure is more than any lead gift we've ever had, so I'm sure ISU will do something very nice

They haven't determined number of seats, cost, or even finalized a completion date. They go to the regents in February. The ad said if everything goes right they hope to have it completed to open the 2015 season. It doesn't sound like they don't even know how much money to raise.

I'm glad our athletic department doesn't go public with hopes and dreams.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: DQ12 on November 26, 2013, 12:00:35 AM
that picture (the one havs originally posted -- the sketchup looking one) has been floating around for forever.  seems like it's always been "1 or 2 years off." 

i'll believe it when i see it is what i'm saying here.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: EMAWmeister on November 26, 2013, 01:25:36 AM
I think this is very cool and I'd be pumped if I were you ISU bros
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: eastcat on November 26, 2013, 02:05:08 AM
the article said the $25 million is a lead gift, which I'm pretty sure is more than any lead gift we've ever had, so I'm sure ISU will do something very nice

They haven't determined number of seats, cost, or even finalized a completion date. They go to the regents in February. The ad said if everything goes right they hope to have it completed to open the 2015 season. It doesn't sound like they don't even know how much money to raise.

I'm glad our athletic department doesn't go public with hopes and dreams.

Seriously

They basically announced that they have 25mil cash and want to building some crap onto the stadium with it, but they have no idea what/how/when/why?

Rookies.

Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: KSUBrian on November 26, 2013, 02:17:45 AM
Looks like ISU has a few creative photoshop-ers like seen on this board.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZ8TEo0CIAA8XnK.jpg:large)

Needs an interstate sign standard to hold up the video board.

Also looked at the photo gallery of JT ob the official ISIU website.  Those large parking lots are  :barf:  Might be good for flood control.  :dunno:
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: wabash909 on November 26, 2013, 02:40:19 AM
'Grats on the new project, Havs.  I'm sure it will be amazing!


Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Havs on November 26, 2013, 09:41:37 AM
Looks like ISU has a few creative photoshop-ers like seen on this board.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZ8TEo0CIAA8XnK.jpg:large)

Needs an interstate sign standard to hold up the video board.

Also looked at the photo gallery of JT ob the official ISIU website.  Those large parking lots are  :barf:  Might be good for flood control.  :dunno:

Parking lots are actually anti-flood control because they are impermeable. :Nowyouknow:
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 26, 2013, 10:14:28 AM
how does being terrible at football factor into the likelihood of this ever happening?  serious answers only.  tia.

They still sell out every game, but I suspect that being terrible at football is having a huge impact on ticket prices.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: MakeItRain on November 26, 2013, 10:25:02 AM
how does being terrible at football factor into the likelihood of this ever happening?  serious answers only.  tia.

They still sell out every game, but I suspect that being terrible at football is having a huge impact on ticket prices.

they don't sell out every game and their ticket revenue is atrocious, as it is for basketball. The price points are very low.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: KITNfury on November 26, 2013, 11:01:07 AM
I would love it very much if we lowered ticket prices and got 10k more people in BSFS.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Havs on November 26, 2013, 11:08:28 AM
how does being terrible at football factor into the likelihood of this ever happening?  serious answers only.  tia.

They still sell out every game, but I suspect that being terrible at football is having a huge impact on ticket prices.

they don't sell out every game and their ticket revenue is atrocious, as it is for basketball. The price points are very low.

For awful seats. My parents' season ticket prices have gone up in basketball.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: MakeItRain on November 26, 2013, 11:09:18 AM
I would love it very much if we lowered ticket prices and got 10k more people in BSFS.

1. devaluing your ticket price lowers your ticket revenue. Selling $20 tickets to a conference game is dumb, our fans have showed that they are willing to pay $75, charge them $75

2. Jack Trice Stadium is located 20 minutes from large Des Moines suburbs and 30 minutes from downtown. BSFS is 2 hours from a similar population center. We are very close to being maxed out. When you have cheap tickets and 20 minutes from half a million people, you can get a few thousand casual fans and close alumni traveling with children
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: MakeItRain on November 26, 2013, 11:15:22 AM
how does being terrible at football factor into the likelihood of this ever happening?  serious answers only.  tia.

They still sell out every game, but I suspect that being terrible at football is having a huge impact on ticket prices.

they don't sell out every game and their ticket revenue is atrocious, as it is for basketball. The price points are very low.

For awful seats. My parents' season ticket prices have gone up in basketball.

For football, I think their model is actually good. Like I said in my previous post they have found a way to make alums and casual fans to drive up from Des Moines. If they had K-State's price points with the quality of product they put on the field the attendance would drop by 20%. The basketball prices absolutely need to be higher. They have reserved seats for the Baylor game with face values as low as $9.69 and that's not a special, that's inexcusable for a program like Iowa State. That's TCU prices.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Havs on November 26, 2013, 11:17:41 AM
I would love it very much if we lowered ticket prices and got 10k more people in BSFS.

1. devaluing your ticket price lowers your ticket revenue. Selling $20 tickets to a conference game is dumb, our fans have showed that they are willing to pay $75, charge them $75

2. Jack Trice Stadium is located 20 minutes from large Des Moines suburbs and 30 minutes from downtown. BSFS is 2 hours from a similar population center. We are very close to being maxed out. When you have cheap tickets and 20 minutes from half a million people, you can get a few thousand casual fans and close alumni traveling with children

This demographic loves/loved the hillsides. Will be interesting to see what affect this has on families. ISUAD will likely only make hillsides available if every permanent seat in the stadium is full first.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Havs on November 26, 2013, 11:20:17 AM
how does being terrible at football factor into the likelihood of this ever happening?  serious answers only.  tia.

They still sell out every game, but I suspect that being terrible at football is having a huge impact on ticket prices.

they don't sell out every game and their ticket revenue is atrocious, as it is for basketball. The price points are very low.

For awful seats. My parents' season ticket prices have gone up in basketball.

For football, I think their model is actually good. Like I said in my previous post they have found a way to make alums and casual fans to drive up from Des Moines. If they had K-State's price points with the quality of product they put on the field the attendance would drop by 20%. The basketball prices absolutely need to be higher. They have reserved seats for the Baylor game with face values as low as $9.69 and that's not a special, that's inexcusable for a program like Iowa State. That's TCU prices.

Yea, too many fans have bought into the: "We are Iowa State" motto. The AD needs to rid themselves of these people in the stadium/arena, but is probably scared the seats will go unfilled, despite #Hoiball being the hottest sports commodity in the state.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: ChiComCat on November 26, 2013, 11:23:47 AM
I would love it very much if we lowered ticket prices and got 10k more people in BSFS.

1. devaluing your ticket price lowers your ticket revenue. Selling $20 tickets to a conference game is dumb, our fans have showed that they are willing to pay $75, charge them $75

2. Jack Trice Stadium is located 20 minutes from large Des Moines suburbs and 30 minutes from downtown. BSFS is 2 hours from a similar population center. We are very close to being maxed out. When you have cheap tickets and 20 minutes from half a million people, you can get a few thousand casual fans and close alumni traveling with children

Nailed it.  I don't think there are many KSU Football fans being priced out of going to games.  Making the stadium nice should be point #1, not more seating.  If they want to do things to make sure its more easily expandable in a few years when NBAF takes off, I am all for that.  Just no reason to do it now.  Unless everyone wants a tarp
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Havs on November 26, 2013, 11:25:37 AM
I would love it very much if we lowered ticket prices and got 10k more people in BSFS.

1. devaluing your ticket price lowers your ticket revenue. Selling $20 tickets to a conference game is dumb, our fans have showed that they are willing to pay $75, charge them $75

2. Jack Trice Stadium is located 20 minutes from large Des Moines suburbs and 30 minutes from downtown. BSFS is 2 hours from a similar population center. We are very close to being maxed out. When you have cheap tickets and 20 minutes from half a million people, you can get a few thousand casual fans and close alumni traveling with children

Nailed it.  I don't think there are many KSU Football fans being priced out of going to games.  Making the stadium nice should be point #1, not more seating.  If they want to do things to make sure its more easily expandable in a few years when NBAF takes off, I am all for that.  Just no reason to do it now.  Unless everyone wants a tarp

Has there been a study on the expected economic impacts? The planner in me loves this kind of stuff.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Skipper44 on November 26, 2013, 11:57:34 AM
I would love it very much if we lowered ticket prices and got 10k more people in BSFS.

1. devaluing your ticket price lowers your ticket revenue. Selling $20 tickets to a conference game is dumb, our fans have showed that they are willing to pay $75, charge them $75

2. Jack Trice Stadium is located 20 minutes from large Des Moines suburbs and 30 minutes from downtown. BSFS is 2 hours from a similar population center. We are very close to being maxed out. When you have cheap tickets and 20 minutes from half a million people, you can get a few thousand casual fans and close alumni traveling with children
A Kstate game is kind of tough with a young family for KC and Wichita folks, the only ones I know that have season tickets have family/friends in MHK that give them a "home base" to help make it work.  I find myself browsing rvtrader.com for this very reason.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: ChiComCat on November 26, 2013, 11:59:59 AM
I would love it very much if we lowered ticket prices and got 10k more people in BSFS.

1. devaluing your ticket price lowers your ticket revenue. Selling $20 tickets to a conference game is dumb, our fans have showed that they are willing to pay $75, charge them $75

2. Jack Trice Stadium is located 20 minutes from large Des Moines suburbs and 30 minutes from downtown. BSFS is 2 hours from a similar population center. We are very close to being maxed out. When you have cheap tickets and 20 minutes from half a million people, you can get a few thousand casual fans and close alumni traveling with children

Nailed it.  I don't think there are many KSU Football fans being priced out of going to games.  Making the stadium nice should be point #1, not more seating.  If they want to do things to make sure its more easily expandable in a few years when NBAF takes off, I am all for that.  Just no reason to do it now.  Unless everyone wants a tarp

Has there been a study on the expected economic impacts? The planner in me loves this kind of stuff.

I'm sure there have been some.  If Dax would find and break them down for us, I would greatly appreciate it. 
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: MakeItRain on November 26, 2013, 12:36:27 PM
I would love it very much if we lowered ticket prices and got 10k more people in BSFS.

1. devaluing your ticket price lowers your ticket revenue. Selling $20 tickets to a conference game is dumb, our fans have showed that they are willing to pay $75, charge them $75

2. Jack Trice Stadium is located 20 minutes from large Des Moines suburbs and 30 minutes from downtown. BSFS is 2 hours from a similar population center. We are very close to being maxed out. When you have cheap tickets and 20 minutes from half a million people, you can get a few thousand casual fans and close alumni traveling with children
A Kstate game is kind of tough with a young family for KC and Wichita folks, the only ones I know that have season tickets have family/friends in MHK that give them a "home base" to help make it work.  I find myself browsing rvtrader.com for this very reason.

I'm mean, I did the Wichita thing with kids for 4 seasons and then 6 hours away for one, but then again my kids are elite. #lilMiRbrag
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: wabash909 on November 26, 2013, 01:09:32 PM
I would love it very much if we lowered ticket prices and got 10k more people in BSFS.

1. devaluing your ticket price lowers your ticket revenue. Selling $20 tickets to a conference game is dumb, our fans have showed that they are willing to pay $75, charge them $75

2. Jack Trice Stadium is located 20 minutes from large Des Moines suburbs and 30 minutes from downtown. BSFS is 2 hours from a similar population center. We are very close to being maxed out. When you have cheap tickets and 20 minutes from half a million people, you can get a few thousand casual fans and close alumni traveling with children

Good point here.  It's a well known fact that most Iowa State fans hover right around the poverty line.  Higher ticket prices like we charge would never work.


Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: GoodForAnother on November 26, 2013, 01:10:55 PM
I would love it very much if we lowered ticket prices and got 10k more people in BSFS.

1. devaluing your ticket price lowers your ticket revenue. Selling $20 tickets to a conference game is dumb, our fans have showed that they are willing to pay $75, charge them $75

2. Jack Trice Stadium is located 20 minutes from large Des Moines suburbs and 30 minutes from downtown. BSFS is 2 hours from a similar population center. We are very close to being maxed out. When you have cheap tickets and 20 minutes from half a million people, you can get a few thousand casual fans and close alumni traveling with children
A Kstate game is kind of tough with a young family for KC and Wichita folks, the only ones I know that have season tickets have family/friends in MHK that give them a "home base" to help make it work.  I find myself browsing rvtrader.com for this very reason.

it's not that tough.  we had season tickets for a family of 4 from ICT from like 91 until my sister and I went to college, and we rarely stayed in mhk.  it isn't that bad.  you get up early sometimes and come home late sometimes but it's w/e.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: MakeItRain on November 26, 2013, 01:17:31 PM
I would love it very much if we lowered ticket prices and got 10k more people in BSFS.

1. devaluing your ticket price lowers your ticket revenue. Selling $20 tickets to a conference game is dumb, our fans have showed that they are willing to pay $75, charge them $75

2. Jack Trice Stadium is located 20 minutes from large Des Moines suburbs and 30 minutes from downtown. BSFS is 2 hours from a similar population center. We are very close to being maxed out. When you have cheap tickets and 20 minutes from half a million people, you can get a few thousand casual fans and close alumni traveling with children
A Kstate game is kind of tough with a young family for KC and Wichita folks, the only ones I know that have season tickets have family/friends in MHK that give them a "home base" to help make it work.  I find myself browsing rvtrader.com for this very reason.

it's not that tough.  we had season tickets for a family of 4 from ICT from like 91 until my sister and I went to college, and we rarely stayed in mhk.  it isn't that bad.  you get up early sometimes and come home late sometimes but it's w/e.

I think by "tough" he meant the time, energy, and resources required. It was easy for you as a kid, I'm sure you had a blast. It is in no way easy for the parents. The only reason I still do it is because my four year old absolutely loves it.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Havs on November 26, 2013, 02:50:34 PM
Its brutally obvious ISU was waiting for the one "lead donor" to get this going. Here are blueprints. Look at the date.

http://caterclan.webs.com/5_ES01.pdf

http://caterclan.webs.com/5_ES02.pdf

Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: KITNfury on November 26, 2013, 03:17:05 PM
I would love it very much if we lowered ticket prices and got 10k more people in BSFS.

1. devaluing your ticket price lowers your ticket revenue. Selling $20 tickets to a conference game is dumb, our fans have showed that they are willing to pay $75, charge them $75

2. Jack Trice Stadium is located 20 minutes from large Des Moines suburbs and 30 minutes from downtown. BSFS is 2 hours from a similar population center. We are very close to being maxed out. When you have cheap tickets and 20 minutes from half a million people, you can get a few thousand casual fans and close alumni traveling with children
I never said it was feasible. I've always supported adding few or zero seats. But if we could get away with it for a net zero change for total ticket dollars, I would want it. As a fan, I wouldn't care if they had to spend a few more million adding seats to the NEZ if they could figure a way to fill it without out actually losing money.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: kickedinthenuts on November 26, 2013, 04:24:22 PM
how does being terrible at football factor into the likelihood of this ever happening?  serious answers only.  tia.

They still sell out every game, but I suspect that being terrible at football is having a huge impact on ticket prices.

they don't sell out every game and their ticket revenue is atrocious, as it is for basketball. The price points are very low.

Best seats at BSFS cost $1,655 ($355 ticket plus $1,300 priority contribution)
http://issuu.com/k-statesports/docs/footballticketcatalog-2013?e=1198840/2939158

Best seats at JTS cost at least $1,575 ($375 ticket plus a MINIMUM $5,000 donation for up to 4 tickets, but the highest priority level is actually $12,500 for up to 8 seats)
http://www.cyclones.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10700&ATCLID=897730
http://www.cyclones.com/fls/10700/ticket_pages/assets/seating_diagrams/Trice_seating_large.jpg?DB_OEM_ID=10700
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: puniraptor on November 26, 2013, 04:25:22 PM
how does being terrible at football factor into the likelihood of this ever happening?  serious answers only.  tia.

They still sell out every game, but I suspect that being terrible at football is having a huge impact on ticket prices.

they don't sell out every game and their ticket revenue is atrocious, as it is for basketball. The price points are very low.

Best seats at BSFS cost $1,655 ($355 ticket plus $1,300 priority contribution)
http://issuu.com/k-statesports/docs/footballticketcatalog-2013?e=1198840/2939158

Best seats at JTS cost at least $1,575 ($375 ticket plus a MINIMUM $5,000 donation for up to 4 tickets, but the highest priority level is actually $12,500 for up to 8 seats)
http://www.cyclones.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10700&ATCLID=897730
http://www.cyclones.com/fls/10700/ticket_pages/assets/seating_diagrams/Trice_seating_large.jpg?DB_OEM_ID=10700

link?
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: kickedinthenuts on November 26, 2013, 04:27:08 PM
how does being terrible at football factor into the likelihood of this ever happening?  serious answers only.  tia.

They still sell out every game, but I suspect that being terrible at football is having a huge impact on ticket prices.

they don't sell out every game and their ticket revenue is atrocious, as it is for basketball. The price points are very low.

Best seats at BSFS cost $1,655 ($355 ticket plus $1,300 priority contribution)
http://issuu.com/k-statesports/docs/footballticketcatalog-2013?e=1198840/2939158

Best seats at JTS cost at least $1,575 ($375 ticket plus a MINIMUM $5,000 donation for up to 4 tickets, but the highest priority level is actually $12,500 for up to 8 seats)
http://www.cyclones.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10700&ATCLID=897730
http://www.cyclones.com/fls/10700/ticket_pages/assets/seating_diagrams/Trice_seating_large.jpg?DB_OEM_ID=10700

link?

How many do you want? I posted 3...
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Shooter Jones on November 26, 2013, 04:30:42 PM
hmmm, interesting if true. need proof, tho
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Havs on November 26, 2013, 04:37:16 PM
As I was saying, there are often promotions to sell the last percentage of tickets that are cheaper than K-State (because both venues are larger at ISU) but season ticket packages are still on par.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: kickedinthenuts on November 26, 2013, 04:39:15 PM
hmmm, interesting if true. need proof, tho

I'm not used to this much sarcasm on message boards.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: kickedinthenuts on November 26, 2013, 04:43:06 PM
As I was saying, there are often promotions to sell the last percentage of tickets that are cheaper than K-State (because both venues are larger at ISU) but season ticket packages are still on par.

And these promotions have almost disappeared the past two seasons. A 2-win season and record lows for KU softened the secondary market, but optimism springs eternal in Ames. Demand in 2014 will be even stronger.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on November 26, 2013, 04:57:05 PM
As I was saying, there are often promotions to sell the last percentage of tickets that are cheaper than K-State (because both venues are larger at ISU) but season ticket packages are still on par.

And these promotions have almost disappeared the past two seasons. A 2-win season and record lows for KU softened the secondary market, but optimism springs eternal in Ames. Demand in 2014 will be even stronger.

Any danger of flooding from these springs?

 :ohno:
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: kickedinthenuts on November 26, 2013, 04:58:30 PM
As I was saying, there are often promotions to sell the last percentage of tickets that are cheaper than K-State (because both venues are larger at ISU) but season ticket packages are still on par.

And these promotions have almost disappeared the past two seasons. A 2-win season and record lows for KU softened the secondary market, but optimism springs eternal in Ames. Demand in 2014 will be even stronger.

Any danger of flooding from these springs?

 :ohno:

It's not a flood, it's a water feature.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: puniraptor on November 26, 2013, 05:01:00 PM
kicknutter, do you think paul rhodes should be fired?
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: kickedinthenuts on November 26, 2013, 05:09:07 PM
kicknutter, do you think paul rhodes should be fired?

No chance, but his program clearly regressed this year in all aspects. A great recruiting class coming in and some impact players taking off redshirts will help next year, but they are still going to be mediocre in 2014. 6 or 7 wins next year is probably the ceiling. A new offensive coordinator (what a thankless job, but Courtney Messingham has been mostly awful) would help.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: puniraptor on November 26, 2013, 05:10:01 PM
kicknutter, do you think paul rhodes should be fired?

No chance, but his program clearly regressed this year in all aspects. A great recruiting class coming in and some impact players taking off redshirts will help next year, but they are still going to be mediocre in 2014. 6 or 7 wins next year is probably the ceiling. A new offensive coordinator (what a thankless job, but Courtney Messingham has been mostly awful) would help.

beak'em, clones!
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: manpow5 on November 26, 2013, 06:15:24 PM
Will they release more details at their bowl game pep rally??   :dunno:
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: EMAWmeister on November 26, 2013, 07:06:18 PM
Why are you dorks being mean to Iowa State about this? This is cool for them.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Havs on November 26, 2013, 08:56:18 PM
Why are you dorks being mean to Iowa State about this? This is cool for them.

They can't change? Even if they tried? Even if they wanted to?
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: MakeItRain on November 26, 2013, 10:16:27 PM
how does being terrible at football factor into the likelihood of this ever happening?  serious answers only.  tia.

They still sell out every game, but I suspect that being terrible at football is having a huge impact on ticket prices.

they don't sell out every game and their ticket revenue is atrocious, as it is for basketball. The price points are very low.

Best seats at BSFS cost $1,655 ($355 ticket plus $1,300 priority contribution)
http://issuu.com/k-statesports/docs/footballticketcatalog-2013?e=1198840/2939158

Best seats at JTS cost at least $1,575 ($375 ticket plus a MINIMUM $5,000 donation for up to 4 tickets, but the highest priority level is actually $12,500 for up to 8 seats)
http://www.cyclones.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10700&ATCLID=897730
http://www.cyclones.com/fls/10700/ticket_pages/assets/seating_diagrams/Trice_seating_large.jpg?DB_OEM_ID=10700

That is really good research, well done. It doesn't say anything about ISU's football revenue though. According to the equity in athletics report, ISU had $29 million in football revenue for 2012. K-State had $31 million.  On its face the $2 million doesn't seem like very much, but when you factor in that K-States number doesn't include the West Stadium Center and that Jack Trice is 12% bigger than BSFS that two million looks much bigger, the 2013 number will certainly be much wider.  I'd venture to guess that $29 million in revenue is low end for a BCS program with a 55,000+ stadium.

Also that isn't close to our best seat.  The donor levels for the premium seating is as high as $50,000
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: kim carnes on November 26, 2013, 10:22:03 PM
kicknutter, do you think paul rhodes should be fired?

No chance, but his program clearly regressed this year in all aspects. A great recruiting class coming in and some impact players taking off redshirts will help next year, but they are still going to be mediocre in 2014. 6 or 7 wins next year is probably the ceiling. A new offensive coordinator (what a thankless job, but Courtney Messingham has been mostly awful) would help.

I bet ISU fans say this every year.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: DQ12 on November 26, 2013, 10:25:43 PM
Why are you dorks being mean to Iowa State about this? This is cool for them.
any plan that doesn't involve them exploding that absurd press box of theirs is crazy
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: kim carnes on November 26, 2013, 10:35:46 PM
Guys, ISU has a great recruiting class coming in and it isn't even signing day i.e. there is more to come.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: MakeItRain on November 26, 2013, 10:44:13 PM
Guys, ISU has a great recruiting class coming in and it isn't even signing day i.e. there is more to come.

BTW outs only a "great" recruiting class because they got the #5 receiver, in the country.  The dude is from Des Moines.  Unfortunately they don't have a QB to throw to him because they didn't offer Waters. Also recently Rhodes made a big deal about how he isn't recruiting a QB in this class because they have enough of them.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Havs on November 27, 2013, 07:44:32 AM
Guys, ISU has a great recruiting class coming in and it isn't even signing day i.e. there is more to come.

BTW outs only a "great" recruiting class because they got the #5 receiver, in the country.  The dude is from Des Moines.  Unfortunately they don't have a QB to throw to him because they didn't offer Waters. Also recently Rhodes made a big deal about how he isn't recruiting a QB in this class because they have enough of them.

Its a good recruiting class, especially for a team that will finish 2-10 or 3-9. I won't be throwing a Signing Day Party or anything tho.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 27, 2013, 09:24:37 AM
Why are you dorks being mean to Iowa State about this? This is cool for them.
any plan that doesn't involve them exploding that absurd press box of theirs is crazy

I honestly can't believe we don't just clown on that thing nonstop here on goEMAW.com.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Havs on November 27, 2013, 09:45:32 AM
Why are you dorks being mean to Iowa State about this? This is cool for them.
any plan that doesn't involve them exploding that absurd press box of theirs is crazy

I honestly can't believe we don't just clown on that thing nonstop here on goEMAW.com.

At least there are boxes and club seats in between the upper and lower levels.  :dunno:
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: DQ12 on November 27, 2013, 01:53:08 PM
Why are you dorks being mean to Iowa State about this? This is cool for them.
any plan that doesn't involve them exploding that absurd press box of theirs is crazy

I honestly can't believe we don't just clown on that thing nonstop here on goEMAW.com.
i hit on it every chance i get.  no one else seems too interested in it though.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffootball.ballparks.com%2FNCAA%2FBig12%2FIowaState%2Finterior.jpg&hash=38135f197284f4c3dd185421456ee50905bf4d5e)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.cdnl3.xosnetwork.com%2Fpics15%2F800%2FVL%2FVLOMPOTVYVOJQDX.20080428174213.jpg&hash=ce91dca51512fbdab572178ef94b90ec2a167fcf)

looks like they're not even going to touch it! 
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 27, 2013, 01:58:43 PM
yea Clones need to work on their pressbox before bowling it in.  Yikes.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 27, 2013, 02:03:31 PM
I see KU fans making fun of it constantly.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: puniraptor on November 27, 2013, 02:12:54 PM
they should make it 3 times taller but the same width to really accentuate what is special about their stadium
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 27, 2013, 02:14:11 PM
they should make it 3 times taller but the same width to really accentuate what is special about their stadium

the Ames Skyscraper Stadium.

Damnit they should do that.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: puniraptor on November 27, 2013, 02:18:21 PM
they should make it 3 times taller but the same width to really accentuate what is special about their stadium

the Ames Skyscraper Stadium.

Damnit they should do that.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1093.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi421%2FPUNITRATOR%2FVLOMPOTVYVOJQDX_20080428174213_zps6874df84.jpg&hash=72a0f7fa8071fa4a13ac2e84c56e53bc9ed8910c)

looks totally reasonable

Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Tobias on November 27, 2013, 02:20:05 PM
slap a blue "cap fed" sign on it and i think you've got a winner there puni
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: DQ12 on November 27, 2013, 02:40:59 PM
Enjoy the view of Jack Trice Stadium from the 45th floor of The Cyscraper.

 :love:
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: GoodForAnother on November 27, 2013, 02:46:54 PM
I see KU fans making fun of it constantly.

to be fair, they make fun of ours too, and it's one of the nicest in the country
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: puniraptor on November 27, 2013, 02:49:37 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1093.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi421%2FPUNITRATOR%2FVLOMPO28174213_zpsf6468ee8.jpg&hash=bb8d1339fe9dbf24e9ef07b54fb7c2278792598d)

stadium renovations are so exciting
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: DQ12 on November 27, 2013, 03:02:57 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: puniraptor on November 27, 2013, 03:04:08 PM
do you have any idea how much rough ridin' CPU power it takes to render stink lines? (not to mention photo-real loose-meat sandies)
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Tobias on November 27, 2013, 03:27:08 PM
i'm proud as crap of that rendering :thumbs:
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 27, 2013, 03:47:28 PM
Our renderings have a thanksgiving's feast more science than those 
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Havs on November 27, 2013, 04:20:37 PM
Maid Rite  :love:
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Skipper44 on November 27, 2013, 04:46:27 PM
cyscraper :lol:
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: PowercatPat on November 27, 2013, 04:58:40 PM
It amazes me that they're doing so many other renovations besides that shitty press box. Is there a BCS school with a worse press box?
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: CatMission on November 27, 2013, 05:02:45 PM

It amazes me that they're doing so many other renovations besides that shitty press box. Is there a BCS school with a worse press box?
Get a press credential and go see for yourself on Saturday.


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Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: puniraptor on November 27, 2013, 05:03:48 PM
What's the crap behind to the right? A new indoor practice facility? A new mold-o-dome?
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Super PurpleCat on November 27, 2013, 07:38:21 PM
Cyscraper makes sense, gotta have some high ground.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2013, 08:26:46 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1093.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi421%2FPUNITRATOR%2FVLOMPO28174213_zpsf6468ee8.jpg&hash=bb8d1339fe9dbf24e9ef07b54fb7c2278792598d)

stadium renovations are so exciting

Fantastic.  Iowans love the crap outta maid rite. Wichitans clown new way Iowans revere maid rite. They have one at the Iowa Welcome Center on the south border.

What's the crap behind to the right? A new indoor practice facility? A new mold-o-dome?

Not new, it surprisingly looks pretty sweet in person. I prefer it to our massive storage shed.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: kim carnes on November 27, 2013, 08:39:47 PM
what  on earth is maid rite?
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: CatMission on November 27, 2013, 09:10:09 PM

what  on earth is maid rite?
A loose meat sandwich. Think sloppy joe without the sauce. In Iowa it is considered filet mignon.


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Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: bones129 on November 27, 2013, 10:20:17 PM

 :lol:
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: raquetcat on November 27, 2013, 10:31:00 PM
My Iowa state insiders say the big donor for this owned the county living magazine conglomerate and recently sold to reader's digest, Haverhill confirm or deny?
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Cannoncat on November 27, 2013, 10:33:47 PM
Our stadiums will be so legit for farmaggedon every rough ridin' year  :Carl:
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2013, 10:50:49 PM
My Iowa state insiders say the big donor for this owned the county living magazine conglomerate and recently sold to reader's digest, Haverhill confirm or deny?

Is 2007 recent? The man is Roy Reiman and he has given ISU a lot of money. There is a beautiful university garden, called Reiman gardens right behind those south bleachers being redone.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: MadCat on November 27, 2013, 11:08:11 PM
My Iowa state insiders say the big donor for this owned the county living magazine conglomerate and recently sold to reader's digest, Haverhill confirm or deny?
:D
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: DQ12 on November 28, 2013, 12:48:23 AM
i won't have the good name of Nuway slandered in this thread.  i don't know what maid rite is and i don't really care, but any negative discussion about Nuway is off-limits.

period.  end of story.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: MakeItRain on November 28, 2013, 09:56:54 AM
i won't have the good name of Nuway slandered in this thread.  i don't know what maid rite is and i don't really care, but any negative discussion about Nuway is off-limits.

period.  end of story.

Sorry man, they are exactly the same except maid rite doesn't have delicious root beer and floats
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Big Sam on November 28, 2013, 10:36:39 AM
i won't have the good name of Nuway slandered in this thread.  i don't know what maid rite is and i don't really care, but any negative discussion about Nuway is off-limits.

period.  end of story.

Sorry man, they are exactly the same except maid rite doesn't have delicious root beer and floats

I wonder if the original Nuway is still open on Douglas.  Used to stop there for the delicious root beer still served in chilled glass mugs (somehow it tasted much better) and their o-rings.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: MakeItRain on November 28, 2013, 02:10:59 PM
i won't have the good name of Nuway slandered in this thread.  i don't know what maid rite is and i don't really care, but any negative discussion about Nuway is off-limits.

period.  end of story.

Sorry man, they are exactly the same except maid rite doesn't have delicious root beer and floats

I wonder if the original Nuway is still open on Douglas.  Used to stop there for the delicious root beer still served in chilled glass mugs (somehow it tasted much better) and their o-rings.

it is, west of Douglas and Seneca
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: KSUBrian on November 29, 2013, 10:46:19 PM
Maid rite =  :Yuck: &  :barf:
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: MadCat on November 29, 2013, 11:14:35 PM
Maid rite is a name I would reserve for an industrial cleanser or plastic container manufacturing.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Havs on May 08, 2015, 04:39:22 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jacktricestadium.org%2Fimages%2Fupdate-spring2015%2Fnorth-render-high-2.jpg&hash=def27f43c62e783ac83e817f2abe4393d78f1115)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jacktricestadium.org%2Fimages%2Fupdate-spring2015%2Fsouth-render-high-2.jpg&hash=cd22356f756c34c5b8dbe5f3a8c8ea0b7a257697)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcyclonefanatic.com%2Fforum%2Fattachment.php%3Fattachmentid%3D33655%26amp%3Bstc%3D1&hash=0e940d477622984f661fd5eb136c5c1ab36109c3)
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 08, 2015, 04:44:35 PM
OK, ISU, we get it. You suck. You don't have to remind us by printing it on the wall in front of your end zone seats.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Havs on May 08, 2015, 04:44:50 PM
For people asking why to add more seats instead of putting in a new suite tower first...

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcyclonefanatic.com%2Fforum%2Fattachment.php%3Fattachmentid%3D33607%26amp%3Bstc%3D1&hash=c6f44686feeb2728fc49d0ca9ad9fea3428346ec)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcyclonefanatic.com%2Fforum%2Fattachment.php%3Fattachmentid%3D33608%26amp%3Bstc%3D1&hash=1bba5149b5318ff5786a58f555acc67bc2d77415)
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: meow meow on May 08, 2015, 04:50:36 PM
how does that answer the question?
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: ChiComCat on May 08, 2015, 04:52:19 PM
I thought the more seats to suites question came down to iowans being poor
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 08, 2015, 05:07:23 PM
I challenge any of you to find something funnier than when Iowans try to brag.  I will be waiting
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 08, 2015, 05:15:33 PM
It looks like an open ended Cotton Bowl.

Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: meow meow on May 08, 2015, 06:31:07 PM
Looks like a more rundown version of West Virginia
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Belvis Noland on May 08, 2015, 08:33:34 PM
Where's the conference love? I'm glad isu is upping their game.  We collectively need improved stadiums.  They're basically all crap holes compared to the sec and big 10
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: SkinnyBenny on May 08, 2015, 11:25:31 PM
Yeah. I'm down. I like it for the most part. (Even though the hard angled straight lines of the new bleachers don't really match up with the subtle curvature of the bleachers along the sidelines, and that's kinda aesthetically jarring, lolol.) 'Grats Havs, you've earned it. Once you get permanent bleachers behind that other end zone your stadium will meet SB's qualifications for being a big timey stadium.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 09, 2015, 09:35:02 AM
I only said it kind of looked like an open ended Cotton Bowl from the air, particularly since the Cotton Bowl added on in the upper levels of the endzone.

It is impressive that they'll have 60,000 seats with Iowa down the road and a state that doesn't have a big population.  But Proud Paul had better start winning or I don't see those seats being filled for too many more years.

Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Havs on May 09, 2015, 09:54:47 AM
Yeah. I'm down. I like it for the most part. (Even though the hard angled straight lines of the new bleachers don't really match up with the subtle curvature of the bleachers along the sidelines, and that's kinda aesthetically jarring, lolol.) 'Grats Havs, you've earned it. Once you get permanent bleachers behind that other end zone your stadium will meet SB's qualifications for being a big timey stadium.

This is probably what its going to look like for a while. I still can't believe this 5-19 team (over the last two years) can have a 60mil renovation. I'm not holding my breath for anything new for a while after this addition. I haven't seen the project yet, living in Texas, so I'll know more once I get up there on Labor Day.

I agree the sight lines are weird in a few spots, and its somewhat jarred together, but I bet thats where visitors seating will be located soon. The old plan didn't connect the upper decks to existing decks, but looked more disjointed. The new plan looks somewhat unified architecturally.

Old plan:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2F4%2F41%2FJackTriceexpansionrendering.jpg&hash=397501ff76bd7ee1a04d5b0548028e5aea067433)

In terms of seating number, I don't think its going to be terribly hard to fill if (a big if) Iowa State can get 6 wins. Thats a pretty low bar, but one Paul is struggling with at the moment. At the end of the day, the biggest positive I see is that new facility upgrades (Endzone seats, Endzone Club, Training Facility, Gateway project) will make the program more marketable for Paul's replacement.
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 09, 2015, 10:29:58 AM
It's good to see ISU building lots of seats for those $25 dollar a year donors and general admissions types while bucking the trend set by K-State  :kstategrad: who built 70 suites and thousands of club seats to accommodate those that write the high 6 figure and 7 figure checks.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: DQ12 on May 09, 2015, 10:52:27 AM
TBH, i really like ISU's model of sell its fiscal soul to get 60k+ into the stadium.  I think it's fun.  If K-State could build a 70k seat stadium and fill it, i wouldn't care if we had to pay taco john's to give away our tickets with potato oles. 
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 09, 2015, 11:50:06 AM
The 2-3 actual wealthy donors are probably kind of bummed out
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Havs on May 09, 2015, 06:06:09 PM
Iowa State has a few suites and a club section, in addition to the new club in the South Endzone. We havn't reached full-on Taco Johns mode, guys. Come on!
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 09, 2015, 06:09:50 PM
Did at any point, anyone stop and say "Hey, maybe let's make this look not EXACTLY like a circus tent"?
Title: Re: ISU Stadium Renovations
Post by: Havs on May 09, 2015, 06:16:11 PM
Did at any point, anyone stop and say "Hey, maybe let's make this look not EXACTLY like a circus tent"?

If I'm looking at the webcam correctly, they are only putting in red seats.  :Crybaby: