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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: sonofdaxjones on November 25, 2013, 10:49:51 AM
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Salary and Bonuses will push the $3 million mark, however if you factor in the market value of perks that number pushes the $4 million mark. WSC is brand new this year, I believe Snyder and family get the use of a suite for as long as he's around. A suite in WSC required a $500K up front donation, plus an additional $30K a year for five years, plus a required number of season ticket purchases every year which I believe is 16. Expenses, cars, club memberships, Big 12 b-ball tourney tickets, Final 4 tickets etc. etc.
Then toss in that we've likely made Sean a millionaire in his own right, plus put numerous Snyder children and grand children through college at a cost of 10's of thousands of dollars a year each.
The typical Wabash Zealot response is "worth every penny". I am not disputing that LHC Bill Snyder hasn't done many great things for K-State, he clearly has.
But, is it acceptable at that level of compensation (oh, and BTW, I don't buy his Seth Davis interview when he says he didn't ask for it, come on Bill, let's get real here) to look like a complete cluster on the field so often? To lose to the likes of North Dakota State? To do such a poor job of building depth that the loss of a player by an injury or two turns the defense into a clown car show?
This isn't 1989, we're spending millions on LHC Bill Snyder, we're spending millions on LHC Bill Snyder's football program, we've set his son up for what appears to be a lifetime job and paid in total hundreds of thousands to educate a huge chunk of the rest of the Snyder family and extended family.
Why can't more K-State people expect better than what we've gotten this year? Oh sure, a drop off was expected, but again, a loss to NDSU at home, multiple other games where clock management, personnel management, play calling cost K-State wins. His son's special teams have, to say the least, been a complete roller coaster ride.
Of course K-State isn't alone on this kind of stuff. VT has pretty much done the same thing with Beamer Sr./Beamer Jr., ku is putting up with Chas Weis and Chas Weis Jr. I am sure I've missed other examples. There's rumblings in both schools ranks about the dollars being paid out to support Sr. and Jr., shell out all $ for perks and getting in one case just slightly above mediocre results and in another not good results at all.
It's one thing to lose, it's another thing to lose looking confused, mis-managed, disheveled and outmanned.
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I expect better and am infuriated at how this season transpired but I also think it's worth every penny. :dunno:
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DNR anything but the last line. What a stupid sentence.
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coaches make a lot of money, dax
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worth every penny, imo.
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If coaches got paid purely by incentive based contracts, then yeah, he didn't "earn" it this year, but then again, he got underpaid the last two years. 4 mill for 1/3 of titletown? Totally worth it.
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worth every penny, imo.
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:dnr: shut up dax
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I'm okay with paying a guy that goes to bowl games every year $3-4 million.
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Snyder has been a bargain and only pushing for HCSS is truly objectionable to me.
Dax, I very much appreciate the critical focus you place on our school and programs.
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Lot of Wabash types getting outed in this thread.
Didn't realize we had been so overrun.
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Lot of Wabash types getting outed in this thread.
Didn't realize we had been so overrun.
Kougar tried to tell us all...
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I appreciate almost everything Snyder has done, but it's okay to call this season what it is: A season caused by poor overall recruiting, that's been mis-managed in a number of ways.
You want to be a big time football school, then have big time football school expectations.
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I will want Bill to retire after next season if he only wins 7 games. I'm okay with a 7 win season this year after the last 2 seasons we have had, though.
I love how Dax defends our shitty hoops coach and then bitches about how much money LHC Bill Snyder makes.
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I really wish Snyder had groomed someone not named sean to take over the reigns when he retires because I'm really really really nervous for when that day comes that he does call it quits
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based on his career and recent achievements snyder's salary is more than fair. there are things to complain about with bill, but his salary just isn't one of them, imo.
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I will want Bill to retire after next season if he only wins 7 games. I'm okay with a 7 win season this year after the last 2 seasons we have had, though.
I love how Dax defends our shitty hoops coach and then bitches about how much money LHC Bill Snyder makes.
yeah wtf is this all about
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We're paying Bill way too much. Bring back Prince!
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I really wish Snyder had groomed someone not named sean to take over the reigns when he retires because I'm really really really nervous for when that day comes that he does call it quits
I would of been fine with HCSS and this staff if they had committed to Sams. I think it would of been enough to stay above the KU, ISU, WVU tier and compete with TCU and TT.
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Lot of Wabash types getting outed in this thread.
Didn't realize we had been so overrun.
I don't think that's really the case, Dax. A lot of coaches get all kinds of sweetheart deals, so you and I both know that they're getting a lot in added perk compensation.
Snyder's base salary is less than Kingsbury's. He's somewhere in the high 30's/low 40's in that regard. Even if he makes twice as much in bonuses and perks as other guys, that probably puts him in the Top 20ish?
I'm good with paying him Top 15-20 money. Easy.
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I will want Bill to retire after next season if he only wins 7 games. I'm okay with a 7 win season this year after the last 2 seasons we have had, though.
I love how Dax defends our shitty hoops coach and then bitches about how much money LHC Bill Snyder makes.
yeah wtf is this all about
Dax thinks chicken nuggets needs a raise.
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Says the clown who as wabashed up the BB board.
Lot of Wabash types getting outed in this thread.
Didn't realize we had been so overrun.
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I really wish Snyder had groomed someone not named sean to take over the reigns when he retires because I'm really really really nervous for when that day comes that he does call it quits
I would of been fine with HCSS and this staff if they had committed to Sams. I think it would of been enough to stay above the KU, ISU, WVU tier and compete with TCU and TT.
:curse:
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Don't Bill Self and Chuck Weis both make more money than Bill? With crummier results? Bargain basement price, imo.
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Dax what is your proposed salary/perks for Coach Snyder? What would be fair in your opinion?
I'm more on team oscar Weber is overpaid, but I guess that's just me being a Wabash Station guy or whatever.
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i don't think we pay him enough.
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Don't Bill Self and Chuck Weis both make more money than Bill? With crummier results? Bargain basement price, imo.
pretty sure bill is 4th or 5th in the conf in salary
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I fear the day Bill retires. You all should.
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I’m too lazy to look it up, but I would imagine Bill’s total compensation package is below Stoops, Mack, Gundy, and possibly Briles now. So we are getting what we pay for, no?
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the tate thing still pisses me off.
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the tate thing still pisses me off.
was fine with it until they let Jeff Luc go to Cincy
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I’m too lazy to look it up, but I would imagine Bill’s total compensation package is below Stoops, Mack, Gundy, and possibly Briles now. So we are getting what we pay for, no?
1. Mack - $5.54 million
2. Bob - $4.74 million
3. Briles - $4ish million per Dallas Morning News, "top 1/3 of the big 12" per ESPN
4. Gundy - $3.45 million
5. Patterson - $3.12 million
6. Snyder - $2.8 million
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I’m too lazy to look it up, but I would imagine Bill’s total compensation package is below Stoops, Mack, Gundy, and possibly Briles now. So we are getting what we pay for, no?
1. Mack - $5.54 million
2. Bob - $4.74 million
3. Briles - $4ish million per Dallas Morning News, "top 1/3 of the big 12" per ESPN
4. Gundy - $3.45 million
5. Patterson - $3.12 million
6. Snyder - $2.8 million
thanks. so we are getting what we paid for.
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I’m too lazy to look it up, but I would imagine Bill’s total compensation package is below Stoops, Mack, Gundy, and possibly Briles now. So we are getting what we pay for, no?
1. Mack - $5.54 million
2. Bob - $4.74 million
3. Briles - $4ish million per Dallas Morning News, "top 1/3 of the big 12" per ESPN
4. Gundy - $3.45 million
5. Patterson - $3.12 million
6. Snyder - $2.8 million
thanks. so we are getting what we paid for.
yep, pretty much
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although bill does have more big 12 championships than 3 of the 5 guys ahead of him, so there's that
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I just wish we'd make his salary like 4 mil and then tell him to pay for crap rather than give it to him. That way, it would look like we pay him more than we do.
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although bill does have more big 12 championships than 3 of the 5 guys ahead of him, so there's that
Yeah, well that's about to change.
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This isn't about any other sport, and this isn't a comparison of pay with other coaches. Do you really want to go there? Here's a pro-tip, take K-State's total football revenue in FY 2013, add $69 million dollars and you've got Texas' Football Revenue in 2013. Take K-State's total athletic revenue in Fy 2013, add $95 million and you've got Texas' total athletic revenue in FY 2013.
And no, don't pull a Wabash and say something like, "well in light of their underachievement, Bill's more than worth it." That's not the question/issue, they can spend $5 million a year on a coach simply because they can.
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Dax what is your proposed salary/perks for Coach Snyder? What would be fair in your opinion?
:impatient:
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Dax what is your proposed salary/perks for Coach Snyder? What would be fair in your opinion?
:impatient:
It's not a matter of fairness, fairness isn't the issue here.
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Well clearly you don't think its money well spent or you wouldn't have started this thread. Team #wortheverypenny
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Pay him whatever he wants. :billdance:
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vague dax is vague.
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So in essence, it's a "however long he wants to coach" scenario, no matter what the results?
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So in essence, it's a "however long he wants to coach" scenario, no matter what the results?
i think last year cemented that
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So in essence, it's a "however long he wants to coach" scenario, no matter what the results?
yeah because currie has made some home run hires. until proven otherwise we ride Snyder as long as we can regardless of his "perks", we have plenty of money so why care?