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Title: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: chum1 on November 18, 2013, 04:59:46 PM
Anyone other than Beasley?  Is anyone else even close?
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: Skipper44 on November 18, 2013, 05:06:17 PM
Gip had a nice run starting with his 2nd game (only played 2 mins in opener) averaging 16 and 9 over 6 games in the non con.
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: CNS on November 18, 2013, 05:10:28 PM
Westicles hit a double double his first game.  They had a stat at that time that said he was only the third frosh to do that their first game.  Other two were Beas and Norris Coleman. 

So, Norris, maybe?
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: Skipper44 on November 18, 2013, 05:18:15 PM
For reference, Cartier averaged a little under 10 per game in the noncon his fr year.  He did not play vs the first 3 pud teams for some reason.
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 18, 2013, 06:09:09 PM
i mean i guess norris counts but to be fair he was like 35 yrs old as a freshman.
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: wetwillie on November 18, 2013, 06:10:56 PM
NO ONE
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 18, 2013, 06:26:02 PM
Kick their asses, Chum!
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: CNS on November 18, 2013, 06:27:14 PM
So, anyone frosh and under 30yrs old other than beas....probs no one.

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Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: michigancat on November 18, 2013, 06:28:45 PM
Marques Hayden had a pretty stellar start to his career.
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: chum1 on November 18, 2013, 07:25:55 PM
Foster:  50 points
Beasley:  90 points  :eek:
Gipson:  34 points
Hayden:  28 points
Walker:  45 points

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/kansas-state/michael-beasley/game_stats

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/kansas-state/thomas-gipson/game_stats?season=2011-2012&stat_type=1&game_type=1&chart1=minutes&chart2=points&chart3=assists&chart4=rebounds_total&chart5=

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/kansas-state/marques-hayden/game_stats?season=2002-2003&stat_type=1&game_type=1&chart1=minutes&chart2=points&chart3=assists&chart4=rebounds_total&chart5=

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/kansas-state/bill-walker/game_stats?season=2006-2007&stat_type=1&game_type=1&chart1=minutes&chart2=points&chart3=assists&chart4=rebounds_total&chart5=
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: CNS on November 18, 2013, 07:27:57 PM
JFC, beas.

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Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: michigancat on November 18, 2013, 07:29:10 PM
Better than Bill!

:bwpopcorn:
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: pissclams on November 18, 2013, 07:57:33 PM
can foster keep it up? will he?
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: CNS on November 18, 2013, 07:59:44 PM
can foster keep it up? will he?
We really need him to.

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Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: Pete on November 18, 2013, 08:30:45 PM
can foster keep it up? will he?

Son, you know it.
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: pissclams on November 18, 2013, 08:45:28 PM
maybe he will double his output.   if he does, we're in for big things.
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: kougar24 on November 18, 2013, 09:06:59 PM
Marques Hayden had a pretty stellar start to his career.

Oh man
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: kougar24 on November 18, 2013, 09:21:11 PM
Loved chatting with Marques at Porters during the game he missed because of "migraines."
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: CHONGS on November 18, 2013, 10:43:38 PM
Loved chatting with Marques at Porters during the game he missed because of "migraines."
Literally no one gives a crap about your lame story.
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: sunny_cat on November 18, 2013, 10:45:21 PM
Loved chatting with Marques at Porters during the game he missed because of "migraines."
Literally no one gives a crap about your lame story.

 :surprised:
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: kougar24 on November 18, 2013, 11:14:37 PM
Loved chatting with Marques at Porters during the game he missed because of "migraines."
Literally no one gives a crap about your lame story.

Keep being a dick bro, it's totally working for you.
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: bones129 on November 18, 2013, 11:42:58 PM

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: steve dave on November 19, 2013, 07:13:53 AM
good stats chum
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: kso_FAN on November 19, 2013, 08:13:56 AM
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Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: slucat on November 19, 2013, 08:31:13 AM
_FAN can we get some basic stats of FR around the country in comparo with Foster?


I don't care what the stats or the fans with black clouds around their heads think...I have a feeling Foster will be very special if we can keep him.
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: kso_FAN on November 19, 2013, 08:52:44 AM
_FAN can we get some basic stats of FR around the country in comparo with Foster?


I don't care what the stats or the fans with black clouds around their heads think...I have a feeling Foster will be very special if we can keep him.

I'm going to wait until the sample size is a bit bigger. Right now he's only behind Wiggins in points per 40 for Big 12 freshmen.

I agree, I think he can be a really good player.
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 19, 2013, 12:23:55 PM
_FAN can we get some basic stats of FR around the country in comparo with Foster?


I don't care what the stats or the fans with black clouds around their heads think...I have a feeling Foster will be very special if we can keep him.

I'm going to wait until the sample size is a bit bigger. Right now he's only behind Wiggins in points per 40 for Big 12 freshmen.

I agree, I think he can be a really good player.

Is points per 40 a meaningful stat for players that start and play majority of the minutes?  I mean if Wiggins can't either get in shape or stop fouling it shouldn't reflect poorly on our guy.
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: kso_FAN on November 19, 2013, 12:48:26 PM
Is points per 40 a meaningful stat for players that start and play majority of the minutes?  I mean if Wiggins can't either get in shape or stop fouling it shouldn't reflect poorly on our guy.

Points per 40 (or 100) is a great stat for measuring how well a player scores. If you play a lot of minutes, that means you need to score a lot more points to maintain a high number with this stat. As you can see from looking at previous seasons (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=25815.msg743765#msg743765), anytime a player can score over 30 pts per 100 possessions they are really good and are likely an all league 1st or 2nd team caliber player.

The biggest critique of the numbers right now is that they are no way indicative of what this season may bring because the sample size is so small, but it is still fun to look at.
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 19, 2013, 01:10:42 PM
iirc, luis colon had 20/10 in each of his first 67 games.
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: kougar24 on November 19, 2013, 01:14:06 PM
also wiggins has played duke and we have played garbage. you know, so there is that.
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 19, 2013, 01:16:25 PM
also wiggins has played duke and we have played garbage. you know, so there is that.
Wiggins has also played like crap against crap, so there's also that.
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: kougar24 on November 19, 2013, 01:48:11 PM
also wiggins has played duke and we have played garbage. you know, so there is that.
Wiggins has also played like crap against crap, so there's also that.

Foster had 8 points on 3-12 shooting (0-6 3PT) in the N. Colorado loss. So there's still that.
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 19, 2013, 02:22:54 PM
also wiggins has played duke and we have played garbage. you know, so there is that.
Wiggins has also played like crap against crap, so there's also that.

Foster had 8 points on 3-12 shooting (0-6 3PT) in the N. Colorado loss. So there's still that.
Wiggins couldn't find his dick in his pants vs a bunch of D2 schools from Kansas, so there's that.
Title: Re: Who's had a better first three games than Foster?
Post by: kougar24 on November 19, 2013, 04:10:29 PM
also wiggins has played duke and we have played garbage. you know, so there is that.
Wiggins has also played like crap against crap, so there's also that.

Foster had 8 points on 3-12 shooting (0-6 3PT) in the N. Colorado loss. So there's still that.
Wiggins couldn't find his dick in his pants vs a bunch of D2 schools from Kansas, so there's that.

it'd be strange if he was looking for his dick during a basketball game, to be honest.