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Title: K-State Player Per 100s (FINAL) and Team ADV Stats
Post by: kso_FAN on November 17, 2013, 10:13:04 PM
Only 3 games in, so there will be weird numbers, but its always worth looking at some per 100s.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg706.imageshack.us%2Fimg706%2F6045%2F1p7v.png&hash=53e080a1acef6ac2ade3d94a2eba6d54c326eb59)

Last year's per 100s for comparisons: http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=25815.msg718369#msg718369
Title: Re: 2013-14 Season K-State Individual Player Per 100 Ratings
Post by: wetwillie on November 17, 2013, 10:18:41 PM
3/14  for three is just amazing.
Title: Re: 2013-14 Season K-State Individual Player Per 100 Ratings
Post by: sys on November 17, 2013, 10:29:45 PM
i see a lot of omari "emape" lawrence at the top of the charts.
Title: Re: 2013-14 Season K-State Individual Player Per 100 Ratings
Post by: sys on November 17, 2013, 10:30:20 PM
aka omoney, aka emape.
Title: Re: 2013-14 Season K-State Individual Player Per 100 Ratings
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on November 19, 2013, 10:20:14 AM
Westicles is a statical king.  :gocho:
Title: Re: 2013-14 Season K-State Individual Player Per 100 Ratings
Post by: CNS on November 19, 2013, 10:48:12 AM
Westicles is a statical king.  :gocho:

Gonna be good.
Title: Re: 2013-14 Season K-State Individual Player Per 100 Ratings
Post by: kslim on November 20, 2013, 09:10:27 PM
3/14  for three is just amazing.
yep he's our special little shooter
Title: Re: 2013-14 Season K-State Individual Player Per 100 Ratings
Post by: kso_FAN on November 24, 2013, 09:48:55 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg268.imageshack.us%2Fimg268%2F5910%2Fen0v.png&hash=fd8072888983129f405b510174128619948a18e3)
Title: K-State Team ADV Stats Thread - 1-5-14
Post by: kso_FAN on November 25, 2013, 08:44:15 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg132.imageshack.us%2Fimg132%2F644%2Fes7w.png&hash=201a0068d0be3ea8478529cb1a56741795265571)

Rank is out of 351 D1 basketball teams.
Title: Re: K-State Team ADV Stats Thread - 11-25-13
Post by: CNS on November 25, 2013, 08:47:42 AM
Offensive 3% is the real bad news here given the previous stats you and Bread have given about what it takes historically for oscar's teams to succeed.

Is this the worst offense ever at KSU?
Title: Re: K-State Team ADV Stats Thread - 11-25-13
Post by: CNS on November 25, 2013, 08:49:56 AM
Not having really followed this adv stat stuff until last season or two, what is the rank range that we normally play in?  50's?  30's?  I know we have had yrs where we are top rebounders or other individual stats, but I assume that level of production have been individual outliers
Title: Re: K-State Team ADV Stats Thread - 11-25-13
Post by: kso_FAN on November 25, 2013, 08:52:27 AM
Offensive 3% is the real bad news here given the previous stats you and Bread have given about what it takes historically for oscar's teams to succeed.

Is this the worst offense ever at KSU?

Statsheet's ADV stats history goes back to 96-97, the three worst offensive PPP in that span:

96-97: .903
00-01: .919
99-00: .945
Title: Re: K-State Team ADV Stats Thread - 11-25-13
Post by: CNS on November 25, 2013, 08:53:42 AM
So, not really even close.  We have had some bad teams.  Woof.
Title: Re: K-State Team ADV Stats Thread - 11-25-13
Post by: kso_FAN on November 25, 2013, 09:14:21 AM
Not having really followed this adv stat stuff until last season or two, what is the rank range that we normally play in?  50's?  30's?  I know we have had yrs where we are top rebounders or other individual stats, but I assume that level of production have been individual outliers

Here are last year's numbers with rank and averages for D1 basketball last season.

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Title: Re: K-State Individual Player Per 100 Ratings - 11-25-13
Post by: Panjandrum on November 25, 2013, 11:49:45 AM
Wow.  Shane and Will shooting a combined 9/43 from 3pt%.

20.9%.  And they're number 1 (Will) and 3 (Shane) in minutes played.  That's just...well, that explains a lot.
Title: Re: K-State Individual Player Per 100 Ratings - 11-25-13
Post by: ksu101 on November 27, 2013, 02:37:24 PM
Not sure if I should be more sad about this team or more excited for next years team.   
Title: Re: K-State Individual Player Per 100 Ratings - 11-25-13
Post by: kso_FAN on December 06, 2013, 03:49:42 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg17.imageshack.us%2Fimg17%2F5425%2F5tff.png&hash=e12874d97ecab1c7b79fb79cc9e3271ddc9ec8bc)
Title: Re: K-State Team ADV Stats Thread - 11-25-13
Post by: kso_FAN on December 06, 2013, 03:59:44 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg855.imageshack.us%2Fimg855%2F6968%2Fqkls.png&hash=3214186e7f0d138beb4c3d4fada19c6049f909d0)

*Pace should be 66 for both offense and defense.
Title: Re: K-State Individual Player Per 100 Ratings - 12-6-13
Post by: kso_FAN on December 17, 2013, 08:21:34 AM
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Title: Re: K-State Team ADV Stats Thread - 12-6-13
Post by: kso_FAN on December 17, 2013, 02:22:18 PM
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Title: Re: K-State Individual Player Per 100 Ratings - 12-17-13
Post by: kso_FAN on December 22, 2013, 09:55:49 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg826.imageshack.us%2Fimg826%2F3198%2F4mg3.png&hash=128a0e20b59a905afab21b9d633b3cdf268e6eeb)

The numbers are clear on Marcus Foster; he can flat out score, especially from 3. You don't get to nearly 29 points per 100 by accident this early in your career. The key for Marcus is getting more efficient, especially from 2s, since he's down with Will in 2 PT shooting. I'd also like to see him get his FTR up, but that's tough when you shoot it as much as he does (he is 2nd on the team in FT attempts). His 3PT numbers are clear though that he can shoot, and its reasonable to conclude that he will get better at the others stuff throughout his career. So maybe the NBA talk and breaking Pullen's numbers are premature, but the numbers show he's got the potential to be in the conversation.

Other notes:

Gip is a huge key for this team and is becoming an efficient scorer from the post.

Johnson has been a rebounding beast.

Will like never turns the ball over.

Westicles is great on the boards and a FT rate stud.

Shane is doing some nice things with assists and defensive boards, his key is getting 3PT shooting respectable to be a more efficient scorer.

Nigel Johnson has been a nice surprise, but unfortunately he's probably the most likely to really lose some minutes with Thomas coming back.
Title: Re: K-State Individual Player Per 100 Ratings - 12-22-13
Post by: scottwildcat on December 22, 2013, 09:57:27 AM
_FAN is a treasure. Please never stop.
Title: Re: K-State Individual Player Per 100 Ratings - 12-22-13
Post by: kso_FAN on December 22, 2013, 10:03:46 AM
_FAN is a treasure. Please never stop.

TY.

Per 100s and ADV stats just give a fan a much better picture of what is actually happening in games and with player stats. I wish more fans understood them so we could have more intelligent basketball conversations, but gE is the place to be if you want to really talk K-State basketball.
Title: Re: K-State Team ADV Stats Thread - 12-17-13
Post by: kso_FAN on December 22, 2013, 01:34:38 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg844.imageshack.us%2Fimg844%2F5954%2Ftusp.png&hash=c2e576abfc062ce0fdd74ba6e9590f8138a34a8d)

Notable:

The Cats' 2nd half defense needs to get better. Teams are shooting a lot better, turning it over a lot less, and evening up oboards against K-State at a high clip in the 2nd half of games. K-State is picking up the offense themselves in the 2nd half, but not at the clip of our opponents.

This doesn't look like a >50% eFG team, so the Cats need to continue to drop their TO% while maintaining a Weber/Lowry key of forcing TOs at a high rate. I'm happy to see the OR% advantage and the Cats will have to maintain that to be a .500+ team in the league.
Title: Re: K-State Individual Player Per 100 Ratings - 12-22-13
Post by: kso_FAN on December 29, 2013, 11:50:17 AM
The fun of finishing the football season with a BWW Bowl win can't stop my obsession with K-State basketball stats, so here are your weekly updated per 100s:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg607.imageshack.us%2Fimg607%2F6818%2Foxgn.png&hash=85bccf7ad964a3433c6c0ae8acef3cd7696887e8)

Notable:

I was reminded when I added Jevon that I failed to adjust the formulas (and Gip's numbers) for missing the first 2 games (and their possessions) of the year with his concussion or whatever. The adjusted numbers show that he is actually our most efficient scorer and a better rebounder than than previous charts were giving him credit for, my apologies for the computation errors.

Its one game, but Jevon's assist/TO/steals!

Shane and Nigel with huge 3PT improvements with one really good game. That's a trend this team needs to continue to approach the 35/35 oscar 3PT shooting ideal.

DJamer continues to be a rebounding machine. (And sys continues to fail to comment on a player that he is on record for saying completely sucks.)

The frosh (and really oscar's recruiting quintent of DJamer, Foster, Westicles, Johnson, and now Thomas) continues to look solid. Granted, its still very early in their careers.

Title: Re: K-State Team ADV Stats Thread - 12-22-13
Post by: kso_FAN on December 29, 2013, 11:54:23 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg585%2F8963%2Ft5xn.png&hash=a010d570582e3eb69bc69ff7fdc5c775c63b4969)

The Cats' first half defense continues to be impressive. The only poor 1st half games were Georgetown and South Dakota.

Besides threes, the #bruceketball TO% advantage is settling in nicely, but the OR% advantage is an nice surprise. If the Cats can't get to the oscar 3PT benchmark of 35/35 those two advantages will have to continue into Big 12 play for this team to get to .500+ and contend for a NCAA spot.
Title: Re: K-State Team ADV Stats Thread - 12-29-13
Post by: Powercat Posse on December 29, 2013, 04:27:07 PM
Yep FAN.... last 6 games --

Ksu 15.6 TO%
Opp 24.0%

Ksu 43.9 OR%
Opp 26.2%
Title: Re: K-State Team ADV Stats Thread - 12-29-13
Post by: kso_FAN on January 01, 2014, 12:45:52 PM
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Title: Re: K-State Individual Player Per 100 Ratings - 12-29-13
Post by: kso_FAN on January 01, 2014, 12:47:06 PM
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Title: Re: K-State Individual Player Per 100 Ratings - 1-1-14
Post by: raquetcat on January 01, 2014, 04:30:07 PM
looks like you're off to a good start with your new year's resolutions _fan!

I didn't know what to expect with Jevon and he obviously won't keep his ridiculous A/TO rates going, but even if he regresses he brings a lot in that aspect. Hopefully his scoring will come along with more practice.
Title: Re: K-State Team ADV Stats Thread - 1-1-14
Post by: kso_FAN on January 05, 2014, 11:32:53 AM
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Title: Re: K-State Individual Player Per 100 Ratings - 1-1-14
Post by: kso_FAN on January 05, 2014, 11:34:14 AM
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Title: Re: K-State Team ADV Stats Thread - 1-5-14
Post by: Pete on January 05, 2014, 02:50:03 PM
_Fan, can you add a link to each of these to their individual threads, as you do them in the future.  I like looking back at them.  :blush:
Title: Re: K-State Team ADV Stats Thread - 1-5-14
Post by: Powercat Posse on January 05, 2014, 03:07:29 PM
Since getting back from our P.R. trip =
Our ppp is 1.12 and our opp are at 0.87

Our 0.90 ppp allowed is 10th best in the nation.   The 4 good teams we beat (Osu, Gonz, GW, Miss) only got 0.93 on us.   Those 4 teams only made 16 of 68 3pt on us too.   That is 4 made per game at a 23.5% clip.    Pretty impressive.

And how bout a 132 assist to only 80 TO margain in these last 8 games.   Yep, 1.65 A/TO ratio
First 6 games, it was 0.93 (77 ast 83 TOs)
Title: Re: K-State Individual Player Per 100 Ratings - 1-5-14
Post by: kso_FAN on January 08, 2014, 10:20:21 AM
Player Per 100s:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg716%2F5668%2Fkthb.png&hash=8a5a19b72811585915e8c90b9b0ac9c4b5682889)

Season Team Advanced Stats: (after this weekend I will include Big 12 only)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg547%2F9555%2Fv7sq.png&hash=fced342a68631d30a9f3f089261d59b3263b64ea)
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 1-8-14
Post by: puniraptor on January 08, 2014, 10:24:20 AM
is there any way you can squeeze airballs per 100 out of those stats and add it to the charts? I think that would be fun to see
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 1-8-14
Post by: kso_FAN on January 08, 2014, 01:06:43 PM
For comparison and interesting sports discussion only!

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg809%2F386%2F3xzq.png&hash=293d149d0bc8de7e1c10ffc1d4eb3326d6794eac)
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 1-8-14
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 08, 2014, 01:30:31 PM
For comparison and interesting sports discussion only!

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg809%2F386%2F3xzq.png&hash=293d149d0bc8de7e1c10ffc1d4eb3326d6794eac)

Defense isn't close, according to @rockchalktalk...who is butthurt Wiggins is on 1st team all American lists right meow.
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 1-8-14
Post by: kso_FAN on January 08, 2014, 01:33:26 PM
For comparison and interesting sports discussion only!

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg809%2F386%2F3xzq.png&hash=293d149d0bc8de7e1c10ffc1d4eb3326d6794eac)

Defense isn't close, according to @rockchalktalk...who is butthurt Wiggins is on 1st team all American lists right meow.

The interesting thing is that Embiid's numbers are better (often much better) in nearly every category than Wiggins (Wiggins is slightly better in PTs per 100 and doesn't foul as much).
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 1-8-14
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 08, 2014, 01:35:39 PM
For comparison and interesting sports discussion only!

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg809%2F386%2F3xzq.png&hash=293d149d0bc8de7e1c10ffc1d4eb3326d6794eac)

Defense isn't close, according to @rockchalktalk...who is butthurt Wiggins is on 1st team all American lists right meow.

The interesting thing is that Embiid's numbers are better (often much better) in nearly every category than Wiggins (Wiggins is slightly better in PTs per 100 and doesn't foul as much).

actually you may be right. He didn't say the name...but Embiid might make more sense.
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 1-8-14
Post by: kso_FAN on January 08, 2014, 01:38:38 PM
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Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 1-8-14
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 08, 2014, 02:04:11 PM
If an NBA team really takes Wiggins over Embiid, well, I guess that's the reason they have a terrible record and are picking early.
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 1-8-14
Post by: kso_FAN on January 12, 2014, 09:57:18 AM
Season Per 100 Totals:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg541%2F2636%2Fx523.png&hash=931fd87c771783f48a6ef6013e68130c418569a5)

Big 12 Per 100 after 3 games. Season column compares Big 12 after 3 games to their total season numbers.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg22%2F6493%2F9tv7.png&hash=955fecd97b52b822d6cfd155997f08ca0acaefdd)

Nino's scoring numbers in Big 12 play.
Gip's fouls/efficiency.
Omari is a steal machine.
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 1-8-14
Post by: kso_FAN on January 12, 2014, 10:05:56 AM
Season advanced stats:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg839%2F2304%2Ferrs.png&hash=ad698a9abaf31b8fa74904311339de78a955a89f)

Big 12 only advanced stats:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg46%2F5104%2Fdrib.png&hash=c96002f9c8f24678938c43668036e05240ca9511)

Offensive efficiency simply must get better if this team is going to make the tournament. With the current shooting, K-State must win the TO% and OR% battles on a consistent basis and this team is not forcing TOs at a high clip in Big 12 play.

It will be interesting to see how this defense responds with one of the Big 12's best offensives vs Oklahoma. OU is also a bubble team, but this is simply a home game the Cats have to win. (as is West Virginia)
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 1-12-14
Post by: kso_FAN on January 15, 2014, 09:16:37 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg546%2F3465%2Ftf97.png&hash=7b302cd7c23de4c21de18370e8dd748b3df5df88)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg43%2F9405%2Fd4qu.png&hash=0d3e195db31514b2b094cb5750dda20b688fa5ed)

Its interesting to see the consistency of #bruceketball, though only 4 Big 12 games is a small sample size. You still see the Cats staying at a mid-60's pace and maintaining similar shot selection. Given the Cats have played 3 of the top 4/5 teams in the league, production/execution being down is not unexpected, though there are things that need to improve.

TO% differential is a big one right now and the Cats lack of ability to force TOs. This was a staple for #bruceketball in year one and forcing TOs at a 20% clip is a staple throughout oscar's coaching career as it was for Lowery. I don't think this team has the offense to win over the course of this season if it stays where it is now in league games, hopefully this one picks up.

I like that one thing that seems to have carried over from Frank is hitting the offensive glass. Granted, the rate isn't in the low 40s, but staying in the mid to upper 30s and winning the OR% battle on a consistent basis, especially with a smaller line-up, creates another notable offensive advantage.

One great game shooting the ball does wonders. Last year the mark to shoot for in the Big 12 was 50% eFG%. I'm not sold that this team will quite get there, but if we can shoot (eFG) around 47-48% on a nightly basis we'll win games, as long as we can win TO% and OR%; getting the shooting to 50% or better will simply create more room for error and the ability to win tougher road games.

Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 1-15-14
Post by: kso_FAN on January 15, 2014, 10:27:36 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg36%2F106%2Fih6p.png&hash=214a0a38c4c3fa7e0f536449e391f2ce65080966)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg856%2F3448%2Ft30u.png&hash=eb059d6569833373b2a7c8adfbd70cdf65d26964)

Nino is a scoring maching in Big 12 play.

Will's TO numbers are ridiculous for as much as he handles the ball.

Thomas has evened out a bit, but as he becomes more comfortable I'm sure we'll see a lot of his numbers improve.

Gip didn't have his best game, but still is a very productive player.

There have been moments of disappointment for Shane, but he is so good at doing almost everything well.
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 1-15-14
Post by: 8manpick on January 15, 2014, 10:51:09 AM
_FAN, I'm sure we've talked about this before, but when you are doing the individual player per 100s, do you prorate possessions a player played based on minute percentage, or is it the actual number of possessions they were on the court for?
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 1-15-14
Post by: kso_FAN on January 15, 2014, 11:00:10 AM
_FAN, I'm sure we've talked about this before, but when you are doing the individual player per 100s, do you prorate possessions a player played based on minute percentage, or is it the actual number of possessions they were on the court for?

My formula uses minutes percentage and possessions for each game to account for only the possessions they were on the floor.

First I find the minutes percentage for the games a player has played in, then I multiple the min% by the games played in and K-State's current average possessions per game. This approximates pretty accurately how many possessions the player has played in. Then I take each stat and multiply by 100 and divide by the possessions they've played in to get their poss per 100.
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 1-15-14
Post by: 8manpick on January 15, 2014, 11:09:11 AM
Okay cool, thanks
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 1-15-14
Post by: kso_FAN on January 19, 2014, 08:58:11 AM
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Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 1-15-14
Post by: kso_FAN on January 19, 2014, 09:04:23 AM
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Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 1-19-14
Post by: kso_FAN on January 27, 2014, 08:01:27 AM
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In Big 12 games the Cats have maintained a solid eFG% of 50%, but TO% problems (especially in the first half) and only maintaining a slight advantage on the offensive boards hasn't been enough, especially in the last 2 tough road games. In games against the leagues upper 7 teams, K-State must get to a point where we play even in TO% to win those games or we will be left with more close losses like in Austin and Ames.

Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 1-27-14
Post by: kso_FAN on January 27, 2014, 09:30:29 AM
Updated Per 100s:

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Its good to see the shooting numbers up in Big 12 play, but rebounding numbers are down.

Thomas is doing a lot of nice things, but he simply must get better offensive efficiency numbers. Obviously he doesn't have to be a major scorer for this team, but he has to be more of a threat than the scoring/shooting he's doing right now.
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 1-27-14
Post by: kso_FAN on January 27, 2014, 11:20:47 AM
Another look at advanced stats in Big 12 play, this time broken out by home games vs road games. The first half on the road is killing K-State:

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Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 1-27-14
Post by: kso_FAN on February 05, 2014, 04:53:53 PM
Updated overall per 100s:
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Updated Big 12 per 100s:
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Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 2-5-14
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 09, 2014, 11:22:46 PM
Will (42.9%) and Foster (41.1%) hitting the 3s at a clip that we need.   Shane, just 27.3% and only 4 of last 25.   We really need this to change tomorrow night. 

Shane and Westicles combining for 1.84 Ast/TO ratio.  Not too shabby for our 2 starting forwards.  Kstate currently 2nd in B12 and 50th nationally with 1.26 A/TO ratio in conf games

Foster in 5 home conf games = 48.3% 3pt, 62.1% 2pt, 67.2 eFG%, 17.2 pts/g

Nino 88.5% from the line.  Made 16 of last 17 FTs.   Will made 15 of his last 17 FTs too.


Foster/Will/Gip/Westicles/Nino .... combine for 57.0 eFG% in Big 12 games.   4 starters and #1 scoring option off bench.  Have to get Shane going offensively.  Those 6 guys take 81.5% of the shots in league play.  Jevon, DJamer, Omari, Nigel take 18.5% (I am not counting any shots the JV guys take in scrub time)
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 2-5-14
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 11, 2014, 12:27:58 AM

Foster/Will/Gip/Westicles/Nino .... combine for 57.0 eFG% in Big 12 games.   4 starters and #1 scoring option off bench.  Have to get Shane going offensively.  Those 6 guys take 81.5% of the shots in league play.  Jevon, DJamer, Omari, Nigel take 18.5% (I am not counting any shots the JV guys take in scrub time)

DJamer, Omari and Nigel played tremendous tonight.   They were 9-15 FGs, 4 ast, 3 stl, 0 TOs.

But the 5 starters and Nino that I talked about in above post --   They were 54.3 eFG, 62% 3pt(8-13), and 72% FT (13-18).   Solid effort and here is hoping they can keep it going when we take our show down to Waco on Sat.
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 2-5-14
Post by: kso_FAN on February 11, 2014, 08:55:25 AM
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Foster - The numbers become more impressive every week. For a freshman to put up per 100 scoring and shooting numbers like he's doing is very impressive. The only real issue has been TOs, but he's a solid rebounder and also doing a great job sharing the ball.

NuWill - The shooting numbers in Big 12 play are excellent (plus creeping toward 20 pts/100), then he continues do have a great A:TO, decent on the boards, and has quite a few steals. The Will we've all be waiting for really and a difference maker for this team. You could argue he's moved to the 3rd most important player (I'd put Foster and Gip ahead) on this team right now.

Gip - Scoring has dropped a bit, but he continues to rebound while playing a lot of minutes. His physical presence in the paint really helps this team.

Shane - Hopefully he can break out of this scoring slump soon, but he's still doing some nice things (boards, assists) when he's on the floor. If he can get his 3PT% in Big 12 play up around 30% that would help this team a bunch.

Nigel/Jevon - Nigel has stepped in and given some really nice minutes as Jevon figures things out. Both struggle to shoot/score and both will be important down the stretch.

Nino - Energy guy, boarder, and efficient scorer. He gets overlooked a bit and has developed into a much better player than I anticipated.

DJamer - Granted it was mainly one game, but it was a big one last night. The per 100s still show he's a solid option off the bench for Gip, plus we got some good minutes with both on the floor last night against KU's size. Solid boarder and now showing a bit of scoring punch as long as he keeps it around the basket.

Westicles - Does nice things, though last night perhaps pulling the ball out a couple of times would've been a better choice. I'll give the kid credit for not backing down though. He seems to end up making a few big plays in every game and will be a nice player at K-State.
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 2-11-14
Post by: kso_FAN on February 12, 2014, 01:18:57 PM
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I did this last year, but he's another look going back to the 2000-01 season of the best per 100 possession numbers for the 8 categories that I track. I only included players that played at least 30% of available minutes for each season.
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 2-11-14
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 12, 2014, 01:29:07 PM
luis colon 09 TO per 100 still cracks me up
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 2-11-14
Post by: Belvis Noland on February 12, 2014, 03:20:59 PM
God, I don't even know who Phineas Athcison and Richie Terry are. 
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 2-11-14
Post by: Skipper44 on February 12, 2014, 04:27:50 PM
God, I don't even know who Phineas Athcison and Richie Terry are.
Terry started at guard for Wooly's first season then disappeared but I am saddened you don't remember classicksubasketball legend Phineas Athcison, he only won the CTR with baseline drive in 2002
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 2-11-14
Post by: michigancat on February 12, 2014, 04:50:59 PM
Phineas "Tony" Atchison

I've written about Terry a few times.   Imagine a laid back version of Lu Colon playing guard and you have Terry's game.
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 2-11-14
Post by: Fedor on February 12, 2014, 05:16:06 PM
God, I don't even know who Phineas Athcison and Richie Terry are.
Terry started at guard for Wooly's first season then disappeared but I am saddened you don't remember classicksubasketball legend Phineas Athcison, he only won the CTR with baseline drive in 2002
Plus his name is nearly pronounced Fine-ass.
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 2-11-14
Post by: Skipper44 on February 12, 2014, 05:19:55 PM
I spent most of my afternoon fruitlessly looking for Atcison's game winner over TJ Ford
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 2-11-14
Post by: kso_FAN on February 12, 2014, 06:11:15 PM
Phineas "Tony" Atchison

I've written about Terry a few times.   Imagine a laid back version of Lu Colon playing guard and you have Terry's game.

Those steals tho.
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 2-11-14
Post by: kso_FAN on February 13, 2014, 07:32:08 AM
Above Per 100 chart updated to correct an error in my minutes/games played formula for each season. It bumped the rightful owner of blocked shots to the top spot that he earned in his one fateful season at K-State.
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 2-11-14
Post by: kso_FAN on February 20, 2014, 02:32:48 PM
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Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 2-20-14
Post by: kso_FAN on February 22, 2014, 07:09:28 PM
Advanced stats in Big 12 play after 7 home games and 7 road games.

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Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 2-22-14
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 23, 2014, 01:23:39 PM
Hey _FAN, I think you forgot to add Wes' 3pt from yesterday.
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 2-22-14
Post by: kso_FAN on February 23, 2014, 01:30:41 PM
Hey _FAN, I think you forgot to add Wes' 3pt from yesterday.

Player stats don't include yesterday's game yet.
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 2-22-14
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 23, 2014, 01:38:29 PM
Holy crap, I took 2 days off of the board and did not even think to look at the date of your post. Obviously I'm still getting back into the swing of my BBS'ing game.
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 2-22-14
Post by: kso_FAN on February 23, 2014, 01:56:30 PM
Holy crap, I took 2 days off of the board and did not even think to look at the date of your post. Obviously I'm still getting back into the swing of my BBS'ing game.

No problem.

Possessions for road games is messed up though.
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 2-22-14
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 23, 2014, 01:58:01 PM
Holy crap, I took 2 days off of the board and did not even think to look at the date of your post. Obviously I'm still getting back into the swing of my BBS'ing game.

No problem.

Possessions for road games is messed up though.

That's probably what I meant.
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 2-22-14
Post by: Powercat Posse on February 24, 2014, 04:39:42 PM
Those 1st halves on the road...... yikes.  If we had 1.5 less TOs and grabbed 1 more OR, then those numbers go down to about 17.3 TO% and 35% OR.      That's 1.5 more poss where you can score and another 1 poss where u get a 2nd oppourtunity to score.   And that is just in the first 20 minutes.  Those numbers would be fine if you add in 50% eFG shooting (and we are just a shade below that)

For the entire game, our eFG at home is only 2.0% higher than on the road.   I can live with that.... if we shot 52% and 50% on home/road. And I can understand that the FTR will likely be a little higher at home, since in the 2nd half we are ahead more than on the road.... thus we will be shooting more 2nd half FTs at home.  That said, the road FTR needs to be higher.  Rather see the percent be low 40s not low 30s

Like we have discussed, the TO and OR are the true issues on the road.  And to some less extent the 3Pt% made.  It was under 30% before we made 10 3s and hit 7-13 in a 2nd half blowout.   The 3PTA don't have to be as high as they are home since we aren't gonna be hitting 40%, but being around 34-36% consistently would have helped in these road games

And I was just focusing my discussion on the offense.  Defense you cant allow 1.10 and 53% eFG in the 1st half either.  Of course the poor TO% and bad offense makes it harder on your defense
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 2-22-14
Post by: kso_FAN on February 27, 2014, 10:12:57 AM
Your weekly K-State player per 100s:

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Jevon - Shooting has already been discussed plenty, but still impressed with his rate of assists and assist to TO ratio. I still think he can be a good (perhaps very good) player if he gets the shooting part of the game figured out at this level. Even though he can't make a FT, I like that he gets to the line at the rate he does.

Foster - Continuing to maintain his pts per 100 above 30 is really impressive to me. I thought as the season went along that he might dip a bit but he's been steady week to week. TOs are still an issue, but his improvement in assists is notable as well.

Nigel - Steady player, nice assist to TO ratio, and leads the team in steals when he's on the floor. Another nice shooting day at OU, though much of it in garbage time.

Westicles - It was nice to see him have a good game at Tech. Offensive boarding has dropped in Big 12 play, but still very good on the defensive boards, solid assist to TO, and still leads in FT rate.

DJamer - Not quite as much this past week, but still doing some nice things with the minutes he gets. Nice rebounder and shot blocker that never turns the ball over.

Nino - Its hard not to like what he consistently brings to this team, oboarding and efficient scoring, probably our best interior player against a zone at finding gaps for short jumpers. Plays good defense considering he always guards bigger guys. I with he'd dboard a bit better and get the FT line a bit more (especially since he makes them at a high rate now), but he's really good in what he does for this team.

Omari - I've become more content with what he's done the last several weeks in Big 12 games, but he still makes me a bit nervous. I'm glad he's here to push Westicles and he is really good at getting to the rim, though his FT shooting is challenging Jevon's for its ineptitude.

Shane - I wish he'd score more and I hope he gets back into the flow on offense, but his dboarding, passing, and defense are all big assets to this team.

Will - Will has become what we've always wanted Will to be. Knocking down 3s at a 40% clip, solid defender, being a bit more aggressive on defense. I would've never imagined his eFG% being as high as it is this year.

Gip - Pts per 100 has dipped a bit, but that's partially due to him playing more minutes (3rd in min%). I'd like to see him be a little more proactive and get more touches, but part of that is on the guards and our tendency to have some dumb turnovers. Its so nice to see him have the ability to get up and dunk in traffic/break opportunities and show some ability to play above the rim. Really good on the boards as well, though it would be nice to see a few more oboards.
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 2-27-14
Post by: nicname on February 27, 2014, 11:01:11 AM
It's pretty remarkable how little DJamer turns it over.  His style of play you lead a casual observer to assume otherwise.
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 2-27-14
Post by: puniraptor on February 27, 2014, 11:12:42 AM
It's pretty remarkable how little DJamer turns it over.  His style of play you lead a casual observer to assume otherwise.

i think balls that bounce off his fingers dont get credited at TO's to him because he never had posssesssion
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 2-27-14
Post by: Tobias on February 27, 2014, 11:14:11 AM
It's pretty remarkable how little DJamer turns it over.  His style of play you lead a casual observer to assume otherwise.

i think balls that bounce off his fingers dont get credited at TO's to him because he never had posssesssion

he's BITB at completely losing track of the ball during a 50/50 scramble.  it's adorable
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats - 2-27-14
Post by: kso_FAN on March 02, 2014, 01:03:19 PM
Here's something I gave a shot for comparing K-State's Big 12 ADV stats; its an animated .gif that displays overall Big 12 stats for 5 seconds, home Big 12 stats for 5 seconds, and road Big 12 stats for 5 seconds. I'm not sure if it works or not, but I thought I'd give it a shot. It keeps looping through, so you can continually see the numbers as you watch. Also, click on the image to see a bigger version.

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Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats 3-2-14
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 02, 2014, 02:10:17 PM
Sweet.  It worked for me.  Another cool thing FAN has added to our stats watching 

Our +0.21 PPP differ in the first half of home games  :Woot:

Our -0.17 ppp differ in the first half of road games  :Ugh:
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats 3-2-14
Post by: kso_FAN on March 05, 2014, 09:01:00 PM
Updated Per 100s, hard to believe there is only 1 regular season game left.

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Lots to look at, but I'm particularly impressed with DJamer and Westicles being able to sustain pretty good numbers throughout this season. We've talked plenty about the surprise Foster has been, but IMO in DJamer and Westicles we have 2 pretty important players going into next season.
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats 3-5-14
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 05, 2014, 10:23:44 PM
Westicles has the potential to be a good rebounder.  He is almost 6'8, long arms, athletic.   He just needs to get better job of blocking out and being smart about good rebound position.  Very versatile already with his ball handling and awareness where teammates are on court.  Really hope he keeps working on being a good defender.  Foster has been a pleasant surprise on Defense as well as offense IMO
Title: Re: K-State Player Per 100s and Team ADV Stats 3-5-14
Post by: kso_FAN on March 10, 2014, 11:27:42 AM
Final regular season and Big 12 per 100s.

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