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1. The quarterback carousel went a bit off the rails today. I realize TCU came in with one of the best rush defenses in the league, but overly relying on your thrower when the wind was a mess didn't make sense. Waters struggled with accuracy in the wind much of the day and Sams was effective running, but Snyder kept going back to the Waters well. The 3 Waters' throws from the 5 yard line was probably the most baffling. Down the stretch they seemed to figure it out a bit, and even though it didn't result in TDs, the Waters/Sams combo got in position for the FGs and the win.
2. Defense really struggled once TZ went out, but part of that was due to pressure put on them by the ineffective offense. Still, we're not the same without him. Probably still enough in place to be in position to win our final two games if he can't go, but some changes in the secondary need to be made.
3. TCU should be embarrassed to be 4-7. I know they've had injuries, but they have a huge offensive line, gigantic/athletic receivers, and Pachall looked really good today. Their use of Pachall and Boykin on the field together was very effective. After struggling coming back from the Pachall injury, I believe we got TCU's best shot today and were fortunate to win.
4. Thank goodness for Lockett and Thompson. :love:
5. Trujillo. :frown:
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Pachall has been out most of the season, tho
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Pachall has been out most of the season, tho
Yeah, he's played the last few games, played decent against WVU (how did TCU lose to them?!?!). Today he looked like a stud, the guy is huge and has a really strong arm. I was very impressed.
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Trujillo was 0-4. Including water's interception.
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Peggy Po: Kicking game.
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Peggy Po: Kicking game.
Little Cantele!
Guys, I've watched Cat games continuously since 1992 and I have no recollection of a last minute game winning FG. Am I missing one?
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k_f, your thoughts about Snyder trotting Waters out inside the 10-yard line? Made little sense to me. Play them both if you must, but Sams has to be in the game inside our 10 and the opponent's 10, IMO.
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Waters played awful an looked like a loser. Even the two passes where TCU players blew their coverage were poorly thrown.
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I kinda thought we were dog crap against the read option and QB run game and all the stretch runs. B- source.
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Trujillo was 0-4. Including water's interception.
Anyone else blaming that int on Trujillo? Eastcat has blamed literally every single Waters int on someone else
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Waters played awful an looked like a loser. Even the two passes where TCU players blew their coverage were poorly thrown.
They weren't great throws, but I'll give him a bit of a break throwing with 20-30 MPH winds. The wind didn't die until the 4th.
He didn't have his best throwing day, but its fair to say he (and Sams) were hurt by some big drops too.
k_f, your thoughts about Snyder trotting Waters out inside the 10-yard line? Made little sense to me. Play them both if you must, but Sams has to be in the game inside our 10 and the opponent's 10, IMO.
Absolutely should have been Sams. Heck, on the last drive when we decided to run QB lead on 2nd down I don't know why Sams wasn't in.
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Loser
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Trujillo was 0-4. Including water's interception.
Anyone else blaming that int on Trujillo? Eastcat has blamed literally every single Waters int on someone else
only an idiot would do that.
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Loser
qft
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LOL at Matt Walters saying that taking their time and getting the field goal at the end of the first half was "the right thing"
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Peggy Po: Kicking game.
Little Cantele!
Guys, I've watched Cat games continuously since 1992 and I have no recollection of a last minute game winning FG. Am I missing one?
Anthony kicked one with about 3 minutes left vs Baylor two years ago. Similar but very different. Anthony also had a couple of do or die kicks vs A&M in the 4 OT game.
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Peggy Po: Kicking game.
Little Cantele!
Guys, I've watched Cat games continuously since 1992 and I have no recollection of a last minute game winning FG. Am I missing one?
Anthony kicked one with about 3 minutes left vs Baylor two years ago. Similar but very different. Anthony also had a couple of do or die kicks vs A&M in the 4 OT game.
Yeah, those are good examples, but still not last second game winners from a tie or from 1-2 points behind. I don't think its ever happened before under Snyder.
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Most exciting finish to a home game ever? The 4OT A&M game was pretty fun but the winning drive on that one had a feel of inevitability to it. Today I went back and forth between confident win and abject losery terror seemingly the entire 2nd half.
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Most exciting finish to a home game ever? The 4OT A&M game was pretty fun but the winning drive on that one had a feel of inevitability to it. Today I went back and forth between confident win and abject losery terror seemingly the entire 2nd half.
smh
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Peggy Po: Kicking game.
Little Cantele!
Guys, I've watched Cat games continuously since 1992 and I have no recollection of a last minute game winning FG. Am I missing one?
how about a 2 minute drill for a comeback win???
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06 texas we nailed a FG late but it was with a lead.
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06 texas we nailed a FG late but it was with a lead.
We hit a FG to go up 10 with 3 minutes left. Texas came down and scored to cut it to 3.
Peggy Po: Kicking game.
Little Cantele!
Guys, I've watched Cat games continuously since 1992 and I have no recollection of a last minute game winning FG. Am I missing one?
how about a 2 minute drill for a comeback win???
Yeah, several of those, I just can't remember a FG to win it.
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1. The quarterback carousel went a bit off the rails today. I realize TCU came in with one of the best rush defenses in the league, but overly relying on your thrower when the wind was a mess didn't make sense. Waters struggled with accuracy in the wind much of the day and Sams was effective running, but Snyder kept going back to the Waters well. The 3 Waters' throws from the 5 yard line was probably the most baffling. Down the stretch they seemed to figure it out a bit, and even though it didn't result in TDs, the Waters/Sams combo got in position for the FGs and the win.
feels a bit more comfortable every game. Sams' fumble and missing TT were atrocious. Waters' INT and some of his throws were as well.
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Oh man, that motion penalty and how they we saying we almost were pushing ourselves out of range. Really foul mouth stuff at my house back then.
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1. The quarterback carousel went a bit off the rails today. I realize TCU came in with one of the best rush defenses in the league, but overly relying on your thrower when the wind was a mess didn't make sense. Waters struggled with accuracy in the wind much of the day and Sams was effective running, but Snyder kept going back to the Waters well. The 3 Waters' throws from the 5 yard line was probably the most baffling. Down the stretch they seemed to figure it out a bit, and even though it didn't result in TDs, the Waters/Sams combo got in position for the FGs and the win.
feels a bit more comfortable every game.
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Yeah, today was tougher, but mainly not because the coaches decided to play both, but it seemed like they didn't have a good feel for when to play one or the other.
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it was basically the North Dakota State game except we had more time.
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it was basically the North Dakota State game except we had more time.
i was going to be really mean to tom
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it was basically the North Dakota State game except we had more time.
i was going to be really mean to tom
I don't like that we bring pressure and play soft coverage. seems a bit counter productive.
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1. The quarterback carousel went a bit off the rails today. I realize TCU came in with one of the best rush defenses in the league, but overly relying on your thrower when the wind was a mess didn't make sense. Waters struggled with accuracy in the wind much of the day and Sams was effective running, but Snyder kept going back to the Waters well. The 3 Waters' throws from the 5 yard line was probably the most baffling. Down the stretch they seemed to figure it out a bit, and even though it didn't result in TDs, the Waters/Sams combo got in position for the FGs and the win.
feels a bit more comfortable every game. Sams' fumble and missing TT were atrocious. Waters' INT and some of his throws were as well.
That was a 45 yd toss off of TT's hands. I wouldn't call that atrocious.
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it was basically the North Dakota State game except we had more time.
i was going to be really mean to tom
I don't like that we bring pressure and play soft coverage. seems a bit counter productive.
We don't have enough talented guys to play tight man, but we have to take chances with pressure. It actually works better than I'd expect; I mean Evans sack was huge today.
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1. The quarterback carousel went a bit off the rails today. I realize TCU came in with one of the best rush defenses in the league, but overly relying on your thrower when the wind was a mess didn't make sense. Waters struggled with accuracy in the wind much of the day and Sams was effective running, but Snyder kept going back to the Waters well. The 3 Waters' throws from the 5 yard line was probably the most baffling. Down the stretch they seemed to figure it out a bit, and even though it didn't result in TDs, the Waters/Sams combo got in position for the FGs and the win.
feels a bit more comfortable every game. Sams' fumble and missing TT were atrocious. Waters' INT and some of his throws were as well.
That was a 45 yd toss off of TT's hands. I wouldn't call that atrocious.
Maybe not atrocious, but he was VERY open on that play. Not quite as open as Lockett/Thompson were on Waters' throws, but he had his man beat by 4-5 yards.
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1. The quarterback carousel went a bit off the rails today. I realize TCU came in with one of the best rush defenses in the league, but overly relying on your thrower when the wind was a mess didn't make sense. Waters struggled with accuracy in the wind much of the day and Sams was effective running, but Snyder kept going back to the Waters well. The 3 Waters' throws from the 5 yard line was probably the most baffling. Down the stretch they seemed to figure it out a bit, and even though it didn't result in TDs, the Waters/Sams combo got in position for the FGs and the win.
feels a bit more comfortable every game. Sams' fumble and missing TT were atrocious. Waters' INT and some of his throws were as well.
That was a 45 yd toss off of TT's hands. I wouldn't call that atrocious.
Maybe not atrocious, but he was VERY open on that play. Not quite as open as Lockett/Thompson were on Waters' throws, but he had his man beat by 4-5 yards.
No one would fault Waters if he missed that pass.
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it was basically the North Dakota State game except we had more time.
i was going to be really mean to tom
I don't like that we bring pressure and play soft coverage. seems a bit counter productive.
We don't have enough talented guys to play tight man, but we have to take chances with pressure. It actually works better than I'd expect; I mean Evans sack was huge today.
yeah, it's just that we could probably get more INT's if we played a touch tighter. Yes, It has worked though we tend to take the stance that the other team will F up on 3rd down before we will give up a TD.
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1. The quarterback carousel went a bit off the rails today. I realize TCU came in with one of the best rush defenses in the league, but overly relying on your thrower when the wind was a mess didn't make sense. Waters struggled with accuracy in the wind much of the day and Sams was effective running, but Snyder kept going back to the Waters well. The 3 Waters' throws from the 5 yard line was probably the most baffling. Down the stretch they seemed to figure it out a bit, and even though it didn't result in TDs, the Waters/Sams combo got in position for the FGs and the win.
feels a bit more comfortable every game. Sams' fumble and missing TT were atrocious. Waters' INT and some of his throws were as well.
That was a 45 yd toss off of TT's hands. I wouldn't call that atrocious.
TT had to go superman just to touch it, should have been an easy score with the seperation IMO.
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It's just Sams gets one opportunity to go deep every four games or so.
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1. The quarterback carousel went a bit off the rails today. I realize TCU came in with one of the best rush defenses in the league, but overly relying on your thrower when the wind was a mess didn't make sense. Waters struggled with accuracy in the wind much of the day and Sams was effective running, but Snyder kept going back to the Waters well. The 3 Waters' throws from the 5 yard line was probably the most baffling. Down the stretch they seemed to figure it out a bit, and even though it didn't result in TDs, the Waters/Sams combo got in position for the FGs and the win.
feels a bit more comfortable every game. Sams' fumble and missing TT were atrocious. Waters' INT and some of his throws were as well.
That was a 45 yd toss off of TT's hands. I wouldn't call that atrocious.
Maybe not atrocious, but he was VERY open on that play. Not quite as open as Lockett/Thompson were on Waters' throws, but he had his man beat by 4-5 yards.
TT also slowed down slightly, then had to rush to fingertip the ball. probably something weird with the wind again. the throw doesn't even come close to atrocious tho.
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1. The quarterback carousel went a bit off the rails today. I realize TCU came in with one of the best rush defenses in the league, but overly relying on your thrower when the wind was a mess didn't make sense. Waters struggled with accuracy in the wind much of the day and Sams was effective running, but Snyder kept going back to the Waters well. The 3 Waters' throws from the 5 yard line was probably the most baffling. Down the stretch they seemed to figure it out a bit, and even though it didn't result in TDs, the Waters/Sams combo got in position for the FGs and the win.
feels a bit more comfortable every game. Sams' fumble and missing TT were atrocious. Waters' INT and some of his throws were as well.
That was a 45 yd toss off of TT's hands. I wouldn't call that atrocious.
Maybe not atrocious, but he was VERY open on that play. Not quite as open as Lockett/Thompson were on Waters' throws, but he had his man beat by 4-5 yards.
No one would fault Waters if he missed that pass.
heh.
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No one would fault Waters if he missed that pass.
I would have, you don't get guys that open often.
Waters had too many bad throws to recall all of them, none were sure TDs though. The bounce pass to Sexton to start the late drive was really bad for example.
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No one would fault Waters if he missed that pass.
I would have, you don't get guys that open often.
Waters had too many bad throws to recall all of them, none were sure TDs though. The bounce pass to Sexton to start the late drive was really bad for example.
airmailed lockett several times
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TT also slowed down slightly, then had to rush to fingertip the ball. probably something weird with the wind again. the throw doesn't even come close to atrocious tho.
Honestly, I immediately thought of the wind after he threw it, another reason I wouldn't go so far to call it atrocious. His overthrow of Lockett last week was a worse miss on a deep ball.
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1. The quarterback carousel went a bit off the rails today. I realize TCU came in with one of the best rush defenses in the league, but overly relying on your thrower when the wind was a mess didn't make sense. Waters struggled with accuracy in the wind much of the day and Sams was effective running, but Snyder kept going back to the Waters well. The 3 Waters' throws from the 5 yard line was probably the most baffling. Down the stretch they seemed to figure it out a bit, and even though it didn't result in TDs, the Waters/Sams combo got in position for the FGs and the win.
feels a bit more comfortable every game. Sams' fumble and missing TT were atrocious. Waters' INT and some of his throws were as well.
That was a 45 yd toss off of TT's hands. I wouldn't call that atrocious.
Maybe not atrocious, but he was VERY open on that play. Not quite as open as Lockett/Thompson were on Waters' throws, but he had his man beat by 4-5 yards.
No one would fault Waters if he missed that pass.
I would. Waters made some crap throws too. He really should have had 2 picks today. Sams had some nice throws but I simply can't overlook him (or Waters) rough ridin' up. They do nice things, and bad things.
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No one would fault Waters if he missed that pass.
I would have, you don't get guys that open often.
Waters had too many bad throws to recall all of them, none were sure TDs though. The bounce pass to Sexton to start the late drive was really bad for example.
airmailed lockett several times
Yeah, he has a problem with overthrowing routes toward the sideline on 10-15 yard routes, he has at least 1-2 per game. And I need to rewatch the INT, but my impression was that it was a terrible decision and a forced throw.
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waters was very lucky not to have 3 INT's in this game.
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At least two picks. The entire first half he was throwing through hands and into double coverage. The crap he was throwing, it was just a matter of time.
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Most exciting finish to a home game ever? The 4OT A&M game was pretty fun but the winning drive on that one had a feel of inevitability to it. Today I went back and forth between confident win and abject losery terror seemingly the entire 2nd half.
smh
whatevs. beasley to morgan in the snow, jeffy kelly's fumble return, a&m, rb3 game, all great. last second fgs are pretty darn fun tho.
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At least two picks. The entire first half he was throwing through hands and into double coverage. The crap he was throwing, it was just a matter of time.
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that bullet to klein for the first down like went through a linebackers hands in some kind of weird matrix action.
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I am 80% certain that Waters has a shoulder injury.
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I really think the coaches think an offense can't be successful without passes of 30+ yards completed.
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I am 80% certain that Waters has a shoulder injury.
Side arm throws.
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I really think the coaches think an offense can't be successful without passes of 30+ yards completed.
IMO Bill has gotten much better at this. Bish/Beas/Roberson NEVER got to dink and dunk.
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I love bombs. We should be throwing them much more often.
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I really think the coaches think an offense can't be successful without passes of 30+ yards completed.
IMO Bill has gotten much better at this. Bish/Beas/Roberson NEVER got to dink and dunk.
Very true. But I still think he places too much emphasis on the deep passing game.
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I am 80% certain that Waters has a shoulder injury.
Side arm throws.
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Other than two deep balls every pass he has dipped his arm angle. None of his short throws are crisp like normal, he either has a labrum or rotator cuff issue. I'm guessing labrum.
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I really think the coaches think an offense can't be successful without passes of 30+ yards completed.
That certainly seem enamored by it, no doubt.
Honestly its kind of strange how accurate Sams is throwing short and struggles down the field. Even the drop on the long throw to a wide open Trujillo was behind him. Still should have caught it.
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I really think the coaches think an offense can't be successful without passes of 30+ yards completed.
That certainly seem enamored by it, no doubt.
Honestly its kind of strange how accurate Sams is throwing short and struggles down the field. Even the drop on the long throw to a wide open Trujillo was behind him. Still should have caught it.
his mechanics aren't good. doesn't set himself squarely.
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I really think the coaches think an offense can't be successful without passes of 30+ yards completed.
That certainly seem enamored by it, no doubt.
Honestly its kind of strange how accurate Sams is throwing short and struggles down the field. Even the drop on the long throw to a wide open Trujillo was behind him. Still should have caught it.
Accuracy doesn't seem to be the issue.
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isn't TCU supposed to have a good d line? felt like the o-line was awesome today.
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isn't TCU supposed to have a good d line? felt like the o-line was awesome today.
Was supposed to. Devonte Fields is out for the season though.
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isn't TCU supposed to have a good d line? felt like the o-line was awesome today.
Was supposed to. Devonte Fields is out for the season though.
He's abig loss, but their defense is still really good.
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isn't TCU supposed to have a good d line? felt like the o-line was awesome today.
Was supposed to. Devonte Fields is out for the season though.
He's abig loss, but their defense is still really good.
Ya, loved how Lockett made Verrett look like an idiot and how they kept showing it over and over again.
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isn't TCU supposed to have a good d line? felt like the o-line was awesome today.
Was supposed to. Devonte Fields is out for the season though.
He's abig loss, but their defense is still really good.
Very physical, I'm not sure sams has received half the punishment he received tonight in the previous 9 games.
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isn't TCU supposed to have a good d line? felt like the o-line was awesome today.
Was supposed to. Devonte Fields is out for the season though.
ah ok. well still liked the effort from the hogmollies up front and stuff.
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isn't TCU supposed to have a good d line? felt like the o-line was awesome today.
Was supposed to. Devonte Fields is out for the season though.
ah ok. well still liked the effort from the hogmollies up front and stuff.
Or offense was solid and we still scored 33 points against a good defense, but we still had to settle for 4 FGs.
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How Iowa Statey was the two number 2s thing?
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Other than two deep balls every pass he has dipped his arm angle. None of his short throws are crisp like normal, he either has a labrum or rotator cuff issue. I'm guessing labrum.
i agree, his labia has been injured
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How Iowa Statey was the two number 2s thing?
:love:
was awesome.. I mean, who the hell looks for that? And was it only noticed because someone saw it before the 4th quarter started?
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Other than two deep balls every pass he has dipped his arm angle. None of his short throws are crisp like normal, he either has a labrum or rotator cuff issue. I'm guessing labrum.
i agree, his labia has been injured
It is obvious he is shielding a hurt arm.
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How Iowa Statey was the two number 2s thing?
:love:
was awesome.. I mean, who the hell looks for that? And was it only noticed because someone saw it before the 4th quarter started?
They would have been fine with their regular punt team or their regular punt returner. Since it was 4th and 6 from that field position they went safe punt, meaning their defense stayed on the field and then Boykin came out as returner. Their CB wears #2 as well as Boykin and the back judge caught it.
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How Iowa Statey was the two number 2s thing?
:love:
was awesome.. I mean, who the hell looks for that? And was it only noticed because someone saw it before the 4th quarter started?
They would have been fine with their regular punt team or their regular punt returner. Since it was 4th and 6 from that field position they went safe punt, meaning their defense stayed on the field and then Boykin came out as returner. Their CB wears #2 as well as Boykin and the back judge caught it.
Snyder caught it.
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No one would fault Waters if he missed that pass.
I would have, you don't get guys that open often.
Waters had too many bad throws to recall all of them, none were sure TDs though. The bounce pass to Sexton to start the late drive was really bad for example.
Waters' missed throws were far worse because they continually led to 3 and outs. At least we still ended up with points after Sams' missed touchdown pass, iirc.
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How Iowa Statey was the two number 2s thing?
:love:
was awesome.. I mean, who the hell looks for that? And was it only noticed because someone saw it before the 4th quarter started?
They would have been fine with their regular punt team or their regular punt returner. Since it was 4th and 6 from that field position they went safe punt, meaning their defense stayed on the field and then Boykin came out as returner. Their CB wears #2 as well as Boykin and the back judge caught it.
Snyder caught it.
I was told that the TV guys credited Snyder for alerting the officials but it was the back judge in front of TCU's sideline, literally the official farthest away from Snyder on the field, on the TCU 5 yardline on their sideline, who threw the flag
Also if that call was not made TCU was going to get the worst spot in the history of college football. The official deemed that the ball went out at the two but that was physically impossible considering where the ball hit in the end zone.
Not sure what would have been the worst missed call; that potential spot, the two targeting penalties we got away with, or the horrendous PI call we had but the officials missed that negated a TCU touchdown in the 1st quarter.
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Also forgot to mention, Notre Dame had two #2 on the field last week against Pitt on a field goal and those officials missed it but Brent, Kirk, and the ABC crew caught it.
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The tv cameras showed Bill walking up to an official and holding up 2 fingers. It really looked like he was pointing it out to him.
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The tv cameras showed Bill walking up to an official and holding up 2 fingers. It really looked like he was pointing it out to him.
Good for Bill to notice but the flag was on the ground before the play was over.
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Also forgot to mention, Notre Dame had two #2 on the field last week against Pitt on a field goal and those officials missed it but Brent, Kirk, and the ABC crew caught it.
Pretty sure this happened on a nd field goal last year too, went uncalled.
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Peggy Po: Kicking game.
Little Cantele!
Guys, I've watched Cat games continuously since 1992 and I have no recollection of a last minute game winning FG. Am I missing one?
texas game at home when Vince was a frosh? It was blocked
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Peggy Po: Kicking game.
Little Cantele!
Guys, I've watched Cat games continuously since 1992 and I have no recollection of a last minute game winning FG. Am I missing one?
texas game at home when Vince was a frosh? It was blocked
That's the only other one I could think of and that would've been for the tie. UT took the lead on a FG with a minute and a half left, Ell drove the Cats to the 18, Brite's FG was blocked.
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Peggy Po: Kicking game.
Little Cantele!
Guys, I've watched Cat games continuously since 1992 and I have no recollection of a last minute game winning FG. Am I missing one?
texas game at home when Vince was a frosh? It was blocked
That's the only other one I could think of and that would've been for the tie. UT took the lead on a FG with a minute and a half left, Ell drove the Cats to the 18, Brite's FG was blocked.
yeah we kicked like crap that year, it's the only one I could think was close to your question
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Peggy Po: Kicking game.
Little Cantele!
Guys, I've watched Cat games continuously since 1992 and I have no recollection of a last minute game winning FG. Am I missing one?
texas game at home when Vince was a frosh? It was blocked
That's the only other one I could think of and that would've been for the tie. UT took the lead on a FG with a minute and a half left, Ell drove the Cats to the 18, Brite's FG was blocked.
Loved that drive though. Put T-New out as a decoy and he drew double coverage. Some WR ran the same flag route like 3 times to get us into FG range. Kicking that year kept us out of the BCS.
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Rewatching now and eff I know our d gave up a lot of crap but man they stepped up on 3rd and 4th and short
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I rewatched this morning. The QBs were not helped by drive killing drops and penalties. Trujillo first two drops really hurt and 2 holds led to a punt and a FG. The offensive line had moments, especially in pass protection, but also struggled with TCU's front.
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I love watching our cats, tho
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Rewatching now and eff I know our d gave up a lot of crap but man they stepped up on 3rd and 4th and short
TCU's offense hasn't been good but that qb might be the most talented in the league and they have some athletes at wr too. They have some physical backs that run it pretty well too. I think their skill talent on offense is among the best in the big 12 especially when they can use Boykin at wr. I have a feeling they give Baylor a scare next week.
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I love watching our cats, tho
I do too.
Honestly TCU is probably the best defense in the league and scoring 33 against them is pretty good, especially since they won TO margin and had their best offense of the year.
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I love watching our cats, tho
I do too.
Honestly TCU is probably the best defense in the league and scoring 33 against them is pretty good, especially since they won TO margin and had their best offense of the year.
Not a D coordinator or anything but they should probably eliminate the "leave a WR wide open for no reason at all" scheme from their system. Whatever caused those guys to be so wide open on our 2 long TDs cost TCU a chance at a good Big XII road win.
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I love watching our cats, tho
I do too.
Honestly TCU is probably the best defense in the league and scoring 33 against them is pretty good, especially since they won TO margin and had their best offense of the year.
Not a D coordinator or anything but they should probably eliminate the "leave a WR wide open for no reason at all" scheme from their system. Whatever caused those guys to be so wide open on our 2 long TDs cost TCU a chance at a good Big XII road win.
The first one was a double move by Lockett that made their All American CB look silly.
The 2nd one was a lot of time and (I think) TCU jumped the routes at the sticks. Thompson's vertical route was really to clear a defender to open up a throw for the first down (it was 3rd and 14), but no one went with Thompson as he went deep. The main reason it worked was because our offensive line did a great job blocking which allowed Waters to find him eventually. TCU had a deep safety, but he was in the middle of the field and couldn't get to Thompson, Waters underthrew the ball a bit, but it was also into the wind after it changed in the 3rd quarter. The wind really effected two deep throws, Sams throw to Thompson and this one, the 2nd one just worked out for us.
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Yeah the long TT TD felt like it was all about protection. Waters had forever.
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Peggy Po: Kicking game.
Little Cantele!
Guys, I've watched Cat games continuously since 1992 and I have no recollection of a last minute game winning FG. Am I missing one?
how about a 2 minute drill for a comeback win???
Carl Straw to Frank Hernandez vs N Texas State on the last play of the game in '89.
Matt Miller to Kevin Lockett on the last play of the game at Cinci in '95.
Tom
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Peggy Po: Kicking game.
Little Cantele!
Guys, I've watched Cat games continuously since 1992 and I have no recollection of a last minute game winning FG. Am I missing one?
how about a 2 minute drill for a comeback win???
Carl Straw to Frank Hernandez vs N Texas State on the last play of the game in '89.
Matt Miller to Kevin Lockett on the last play of the game at Cinci in '95.
Tom
Thanks, Tom. :Keke: (ftp://:Keke:)
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Peggy Po: Kicking game.
Little Cantele!
Guys, I've watched Cat games continuously since 1992 and I have no recollection of a last minute game winning FG. Am I missing one?
how about a 2 minute drill for a comeback win???
Carl Straw to Frank Hernandez vs N Texas State on the last play of the game in '89.
Matt Miller to Kevin Lockett on the last play of the game at Cinci in '95.
Tom
remember listening to that cinci game on the radio with my family and all of just going nuts after that play
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Peggy Po: Kicking game.
Little Cantele!
Guys, I've watched Cat games continuously since 1992 and I have no recollection of a last minute game winning FG. Am I missing one?
how about a 2 minute drill for a comeback win???
Carl Straw to Frank Hernandez vs N Texas State on the last play of the game in '89.
Matt Miller to Kevin Lockett on the last play of the game at Cinci in '95.
Tom
remember listening to that cinci game on the radio with my family and all of just going nuts after that play
Will admit was already on the phone with fellow cat fan talking about how bad this one turned out only to hear Mitch's call in the background for the win.
After I posted recalled Chad May to Brad Sieb in '93 at Okla State. I think that was on the last play too?
Tom
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I love watching our cats, tho
I do too.
Honestly TCU is probably the best defense in the league and scoring 33 against them is pretty good, especially since they won TO margin and had their best offense of the year.
Not a D coordinator or anything but they should probably eliminate the "leave a WR wide open for no reason at all" scheme from their system. Whatever caused those guys to be so wide open on our 2 long TDs cost TCU a chance at a good Big XII road win.
The first one was a double move by Lockett that made their All American CB look silly.
The 2nd one was a lot of time and (I think) TCU jumped the routes at the sticks. Thompson's vertical route was really to clear a defender to open up a throw for the first down (it was 3rd and 14), but no one went with Thompson as he went deep. The main reason it worked was because our offensive line did a great job blocking which allowed Waters to find him eventually. TCU had a deep safety, but he was in the middle of the field and couldn't get to Thompson, Waters underthrew the ball a bit, but it was also into the wind after it changed in the 3rd quarter. The wind really effected two deep throws, Sams throw to Thompson and this one, the 2nd one just worked out for us.
the 2nd one, the CB tripped over Thompson's feet. Safety was late coming over. Pretty sure.
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Yes, the CB tripped. Feet got tangled with Thompsons.
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MIR, I doubt Snyder pointed it out to the ref, but it's still funny that he noticed it. I imagine he saw the flag and went to the ref saying, "It's because they had two #2's on the field, right?"
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MIR, I doubt Snyder pointed it out to the ref, but it's still funny that he noticed it. I imagine he saw the flag and went to the ref saying, "It's because they had two #2's on the field, right?"
The official who threw the flag was on the opposite side of the field from K-State's bench.
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Peggy Po: Kicking game.
Little Cantele!
Guys, I've watched Cat games continuously since 1992 and I have no recollection of a last minute game winning FG. Am I missing one?
texas game at home when Vince was a frosh? It was blocked
That's the only other one I could think of and that would've been for the tie. UT took the lead on a FG with a minute and a half left, Ell drove the Cats to the 18, Brite's FG was blocked.
I thought "Too Low Joe" was the kicker that year :dunno:
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I have no doubt that Snyder noticed it, but the flag was thrown after the ball went out of bounds by the back judge on the opposite corner of the field, so there is no way the officials noticed it because Snyder pointed it out. I was sitting in the corner and saw him throw it and wondered what was going on because he threw the flag after the other back judge began signaling that the ball was out of bounds at the 2.
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Peggy Po: Kicking game.
Little Cantele!
Guys, I've watched Cat games continuously since 1992 and I have no recollection of a last minute game winning FG. Am I missing one?
texas game at home when Vince was a frosh? It was blocked
That's the only other one I could think of and that would've been for the tie. UT took the lead on a FG with a minute and a half left, Ell drove the Cats to the 18, Brite's FG was blocked.
I thought "Too Low Joe" was the kicker that year :dunno:
Rheem and Brite both kicked that year and on the year they missed 9 PATs combined.
In that UT game, Brite also had a PAT blocked after our first TD, Sproles got the 2 PT conversion later to tie it early in the 4th quarter.
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i think that texas game was the last game that brite pk'd.
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Peggy Po: Kicking game.
Little Cantele!
Guys, I've watched Cat games continuously since 1992 and I have no recollection of a last minute game winning FG. Am I missing one?
texas game at home when Vince was a frosh? It was blocked
That's the only other one I could think of and that would've been for the tie. UT took the lead on a FG with a minute and a half left, Ell drove the Cats to the 18, Brite's FG was blocked.
I thought "Too Low Joe" was the kicker that year :dunno:
Rheem and Brite both kicked that year and on the year they missed 9 PATs combined.
In that UT game, Brite also had a PAT blocked after our first TD, Sproles got the 2 PT conversion later to tie it early in the 4th quarter.
I had forgotten about the kicking battle that year. I remember it was a fiasco, and I definitely remember the two kicks blocked that game, but I thought it was Rheem the entire year. My mind plays tricks on me sometimes.
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MIR, I doubt Snyder pointed it out to the ref, but it's still funny that he noticed it. I imagine he saw the flag and went to the ref saying, "It's because they had two #2's on the field, right?"
The official who threw the flag was on the opposite side of the field from K-State's bench.
Right, I'm just saying I think the ref and Snyder both noticed it independently.
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I dunno where else to put this, but the Cantele/ Krause celebration after the game winner was :emawkid: and :love: at the same time. Great moment.
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I kinda thought we were dog crap against the read option and QB run game and all the stretch runs. B- source.
_Fan any thoughts on the run D after rewatching?
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I kinda thought we were dog crap against the read option and QB run game and all the stretch runs. B- source.
_Fan any thoughts on the run D after rewatching?
I was charting the offense, so I really didn't watch the defense. Sorry.
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I kinda thought we were dog crap against the read option and QB run game and all the stretch runs. B- source.
_Fan any thoughts on the run D after rewatching?
I was charting the offense, so I really didn't watch the defense. Sorry.
forgiven.