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Title: Recruiting
Post by: slimz on March 27, 2010, 11:11:39 PM
We heard Frank talk this week about midmajors and how they get overlooked guys who are talented and then stay for 3 or 4 years and how that's how they're having success.  He compared that to our success this year due to Denis and Frank.

What does this portend for our recruiting strategy going forward?  What would the ideal strategy be?

KU got its national championship when its "one-and-done" players had to stick around longer than they initially thought. 

As Frank is building his system, what happens if he brings in a Mike type player now?  Will that disrupt his approach?  Is he better off with a ceiling of Wally type players, with talent and size but who are more easily benched that first year as they are made to buy-in to the system, and building the core of the program around guys like Jake--guys who might otherwise be stars at mid-majors but who we are able to get as a major-conference school? 

It seems that "buy-in" will be critical to Frank's system going forward.  Don't want an implosion like OU.
Title: Re: Recruiting
Post by: Cire on March 27, 2010, 11:17:44 PM
I don't see an OU implosion with frank.  players know what they're getting into with him.

Title: Re: Recruiting
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on March 27, 2010, 11:19:21 PM
I'm not too worried about next year.  The year after though..Well, we really need to land some good guards.
Title: Re: Recruiting
Post by: slimz on March 27, 2010, 11:26:12 PM
I don't see an OU implosion with frank.  players know what they're getting into with him.



Right.  Which makes me wonder if we'll be in on any "one-and-dones" going forward.
Title: Re: Recruiting
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2010, 07:57:03 AM
LMAO, like Frank could land one and dones if he tried.
Title: Re: Recruiting
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 28, 2010, 08:03:24 AM
LMAO, like Frank could land one and dones if he tried.

Exactly.   If a guy is going 1 n done, he doesn't want to be yelled at for a year.  He wants to be Calipari'd (paid and coddled)
Title: Re: Recruiting
Post by: kso_FAN on March 28, 2010, 09:11:51 AM
I think we're going to see an attempt for find more Pullens and mix in Wally/McGruder types.  It looks to me like Frank is doing his best to turn McGruder into the next Pullen, granted they are different players.  I think we'll continue to see a focus on a) long, athletic guards mixed with b) long athletic posts with c) a bruiser/big body mixed. 
Title: Re: Recruiting
Post by: chum1 on March 28, 2010, 10:09:13 AM
Pullen is playing above the potential he showed as a recruit.  Pullen type recruits are not difficult to find.  Most majors and mid majors have them.  Still, outside of Pullen and Clemente, we seem to have a hard time with landing servicable guards. 
Title: Re: Recruiting
Post by: steve dave on March 28, 2010, 10:11:57 AM
Pullen is playing above the potential he showed as a recruit.  Pullen type recruits are not difficult to find.  Most majors and mid majors have them.  Still, outside of Pullen and Clemente, we seem to have a hard time with landing servicable guards. 

yes, this is a concern.
Title: Re: Recruiting
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 28, 2010, 10:53:41 AM
Pullen is playing above the potential he showed as a recruit.  Pullen type recruits are not difficult to find.  Most majors and mid majors have them.  Still, outside of Pullen and Clemente, we seem to have a hard time with landing servicable guards. 

Sprads is the next Mike Dunleavy Jr.
Title: Re: Recruiting
Post by: felix rex on March 28, 2010, 11:06:29 AM
Didn't we have like, this exact conversation a week ago (right down to scoffing michcat remarks on ability to land elite NBA-talent)?

Also, hope Frank goes the Self route and keeps his face out there by sitting in as an analyst. Would be amazing.