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Title: +2.5
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 03, 2013, 08:28:52 AM
Hmmmmmmmm
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: PowercatPat on November 03, 2013, 08:41:08 AM
A lot lower than I expected.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: pissclams on November 03, 2013, 09:15:19 AM
tech is booty.  my KSU - tech dossier says we win this by a touchdown or more
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: Pete on November 03, 2013, 09:33:34 AM
So we are a neutral field slight favorite???

Do you think they treat all home games the same when factoring the advantage?  I wonder if they considered the early game time?
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: DQ12 on November 03, 2013, 10:00:53 AM
i've crunched some numbers in my algorithm formula and it appears that the cats are likely to win 38-24.  my formula is accurate roughly 64% of the time.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: Pete on November 03, 2013, 10:10:06 AM
Baylor is -13 against OU in Waco.  I wonder how that game will go down? 


I was also surprised at TCU only giving 7 at ISU.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: michigancat on November 03, 2013, 10:11:33 AM
Baylor is -13 against OU in Waco.  I wonder how that game will go down? 

Holy crap. When was the last time OU was that big of an underdog?
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: DQ12 on November 03, 2013, 10:14:08 AM
as much as i love this baylor team (which is a lot) we're the toughest opponent they've faced, and we had a legitimate shot to win that game late.  as we all learned last year, going undefeated is very hard.

i wouldn't be surprised if Baylor blows it against OU.  i sure hope they don't though.  -13 seems too much to me.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: Pete on November 03, 2013, 10:21:29 AM
If we beat Tech, I bet we beat OU.  Call me crazy!
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: cas4ksu on November 03, 2013, 10:29:23 AM
If we beat Tech, I bet we beat OU.  Call me crazy!

we really should win one or the other. at minimum.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 03, 2013, 10:31:13 AM
If we beat Tech, I bet we beat OU.  Call me crazy!
This would not surprise me. I'm excited about the Cats right now.

 :lynchmob:

Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: catzacker on November 03, 2013, 10:37:40 AM
our secondary isn't good enough to beat tech. 
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on November 03, 2013, 10:42:48 AM
our secondary isn't good enough to beat tech.

Oh, ok.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: catzacker on November 03, 2013, 10:47:57 AM
our secondary isn't good enough to beat tech.

Oh, ok.

do you think dorian Roberts isn't going to get abused?  Amaro is going to punish the middle of the field.  He was injured prior to our game last year.  our DL doesn't do enough as a unit to give our secondary a chance.  everyone likes kip but the truth is he just isn't as shitty as Roberts.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: PowercatPat on November 03, 2013, 10:53:23 AM
our secondary isn't good enough to beat tech.

I hate to say it but I agree. I just don't see how we're going to stop them. Plus, we haven't played well on the road at all this year.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: DQ12 on November 03, 2013, 10:56:21 AM
Plus, we haven't played well on the road at all this year.
Really?  Given the circumstances at the beginning of the season, I was actually pretty pleased with how we played on the road.  We had every shot to win against OSU and Texas on the road, who are looking to be 2 of the top 3 teams in the conference. 
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 03, 2013, 11:04:24 AM
Plus, we haven't played well on the road at all this year.
Really?  Given the circumstances at the beginning of the season, I was actually pretty pleased with how we played on the road.  We had every shot to win against OSU and Texas on the road, who are looking to be 2 of the top 3 teams in the conference.
this thing is in the bag. we will crush them
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: PowercatPat on November 03, 2013, 11:08:28 AM
Plus, we haven't played well on the road at all this year.
Really?  Given the circumstances at the beginning of the season, I was actually pretty pleased with how we played on the road.  We had every shot to win against OSU and Texas on the road, who are looking to be 2 of the top 3 teams in the conference.

We lost the turnover battle 8 to 1 in those two games. Yeah, we kept the games close, but we played like crap. This team hasn't shown enough on the road for me to say that we are going to win in Lubbock. I have a feeling Kliff is going to dink and dunk it down the field on our soft pass D. I just don't see us keeping up with their scoring.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: pissclams on November 03, 2013, 11:13:51 AM
v tough to keep up with a high powered dink and dunk offense
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: kim carnes on November 03, 2013, 11:17:17 AM
Will we beat tech u ask?  I don't think so.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: kso_FAN on November 03, 2013, 11:23:46 AM
Guys, Tech is good, but they are not Baylor. Not nearly as explosive and whoever they play at QB is prone to mistakes.

If our offense can get going and we can at least stay even in TOs we have a legit shot.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: TownieCat on November 03, 2013, 11:45:30 AM
Two teams going in opposite directions... Purple get ready to roll!  :lynchmob:
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on November 03, 2013, 11:54:50 AM
I'll just put this here as we wait for the ChUMP  to make an appearance:  http://masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=435814816

 :gocho:
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: Frankenklein on November 03, 2013, 12:19:31 PM
 :cheese: Snyder is going to beat ratteeth in a classic game of Hide The Cheese
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: wetwillie on November 03, 2013, 12:42:50 PM
I forgot wallerstadt is their D coordinator, I don't know how to feel about that. I think he kinda sucks though. 
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: ChiComCat on November 03, 2013, 12:49:14 PM
I think Tech is better.  I wouldn't bet against Snyder to outfox true frosh QBs and a rookie head coach, tho. 
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: BostonPancake on November 03, 2013, 12:52:59 PM
31% chance of winning out.  Will take.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 03, 2013, 02:52:40 PM
our secondary isn't good enough to beat tech.

You're an idiot. 
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 03, 2013, 02:55:21 PM
This is going to be one off those games where ttech doesn't possess the ball long enough to rack up points.  Their run defense looked like garbage yesterday. 
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: catzacker on November 03, 2013, 03:39:35 PM
our secondary isn't good enough to beat tech.

You're an idiot.

Please bet your life on dorian roberts.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 03, 2013, 03:39:44 PM
as much as i love this baylor team (which is a lot) we're the toughest opponent they've faced, and we had a legitimate shot to win that game late.  as we all learned last year, going undefeated is very hard.

i wouldn't be surprised if Baylor blows it against OU.  i sure hope they don't though.  -13 seems too much to me.

We are a better team than OU and I don't think Baylor has any trouble at all. They will win by about 30.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: PowercatPat on November 03, 2013, 03:46:37 PM
as much as i love this baylor team (which is a lot) we're the toughest opponent they've faced, and we had a legitimate shot to win that game late.  as we all learned last year, going undefeated is very hard.

i wouldn't be surprised if Baylor blows it against OU.  i sure hope they don't though.  -13 seems too much to me.

We are a better team than OU and I don't think Baylor has any trouble at all. They will win by about 30.

Please tell me what makes you think this. I think we have a good shot at beating OU but I don't think we are a better overall team.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 03, 2013, 03:50:01 PM
as much as i love this baylor team (which is a lot) we're the toughest opponent they've faced, and we had a legitimate shot to win that game late.  as we all learned last year, going undefeated is very hard.

i wouldn't be surprised if Baylor blows it against OU.  i sure hope they don't though.  -13 seems too much to me.

We are a better team than OU and I don't think Baylor has any trouble at all. They will win by about 30.

Please tell me what makes you think this. I think we have a good shot at beating OU but I don't think we are a better overall team.

Have you watched them play? What game have they looked impressive in? Is it their 16-7 win over WVU? Or maybe their 20-17 win over TCU? Baylor, Oklahoma State, and Kansas State are going to light OU up.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: GoodForAnother on November 03, 2013, 04:16:30 PM
we're going to smash these fools like a large smashing device.  afterwards they will say, wow we got smashed really bad.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 03, 2013, 04:20:16 PM
we're going to smash these fools like a large smashing device.  afterwards they will say, wow we got smashed really bad.

Yep. Cats by 12.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: PowercatPat on November 03, 2013, 05:16:56 PM
as much as i love this baylor team (which is a lot) we're the toughest opponent they've faced, and we had a legitimate shot to win that game late.  as we all learned last year, going undefeated is very hard.

i wouldn't be surprised if Baylor blows it against OU.  i sure hope they don't though.  -13 seems too much to me.

We are a better team than OU and I don't think Baylor has any trouble at all. They will win by about 30.

Please tell me what makes you think this. I think we have a good shot at beating OU but I don't think we are a better overall team.

Have you watched them play? What game have they looked impressive in? Is it their 16-7 win over WVU? Or maybe their 20-17 win over TCU? Baylor, Oklahoma State, and Kansas State are going to light OU up.

Have you watched us play? Our best win is against Louisiana Lafayette. No other team we've beaten is even going to make it to a bowl game. We have looked good the past two weekends but we have played two terrible teams. OU's wins against ND and Tech are way better than any wins we have.

OU's game Thursday and our game at Tech this weekend will be very telling about who is the better team, but right now I just don't see how you can say we are a better overall team than OU.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: star seed 7 on November 03, 2013, 05:25:09 PM
OU is pretty bad guys.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: ChiComCat on November 03, 2013, 05:26:24 PM
as much as i love this baylor team (which is a lot) we're the toughest opponent they've faced, and we had a legitimate shot to win that game late.  as we all learned last year, going undefeated is very hard.

i wouldn't be surprised if Baylor blows it against OU.  i sure hope they don't though.  -13 seems too much to me.

We are a better team than OU and I don't think Baylor has any trouble at all. They will win by about 30.

Please tell me what makes you think this. I think we have a good shot at beating OU but I don't think we are a better overall team.

Have you watched them play? What game have they looked impressive in? Is it their 16-7 win over WVU? Or maybe their 20-17 win over TCU? Baylor, Oklahoma State, and Kansas State are going to light OU up.

Have you watched us play? Our best win is against Louisiana Lafayette. No other team we've beaten is even going to make it to a bowl game. We have looked good the past two weekends but we have played two terrible teams. OU's wins against ND and Tech are way better than any wins we have.

OU's game Thursday and our game at Tech this weekend will be very telling about who is the better team, but right now I just don't see how you can say we are a better overall team than OU.

You could say it because we beat WV by a bunch more.    Also that we played UT closer and at their place.  Two common opponents, we looked better against both of them.  Not saying I would agree that we are better, but that's how you would say it.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: DQ12 on November 03, 2013, 05:28:20 PM
WVU is going to a bowl game. They have to win in lawrence KU and beat ISU at home.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on November 03, 2013, 05:49:41 PM
I forgot wallerstadt is their D coordinator, I don't know how to feel about that. I think he kinda sucks though.

Clint Chelf agrees...  And I'm pretty sure he is still running wild through their defense.

 :ROFL:
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: deputy dawg on November 03, 2013, 06:07:46 PM
our secondary isn't good enough to beat tech.

This.  Plus we play the game on the equivalent of the far side of the moon.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: kslim on November 03, 2013, 06:10:07 PM
Bet all the farms 45-16
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: kostakio on November 03, 2013, 06:39:14 PM
OU isn't going to touch Baylor in Waco.  They got beat  the last time they played down there and that was a better OU team against a worse Baylor team.  I honestly would pick Baylor to beat any team in the nation if the game was in Waco. 

As for our game the spread is a few points closer than i expected.  It's tough to win at tech but Snyder seems to win these types of games more often that not.  Especially when he has a little bit of momentum going.  Despite what some people say we match up well with spread teams this year.  Ty Zimmerman is a total stud and is elevating the entire defense right now.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 03, 2013, 06:51:46 PM
our secondary isn't good enough to beat tech.

You're an idiot.

Please bet your life on dorian roberts.

If you bet a nickel on every fucktard Willie nillie negative thing you've stated about the cats on this board you'd be so goddamn far in the whole your bookie would have crippled you and turned your pockets inside out.  Think about that catzacker.  Think about that.  And if you're still sure, YOU go ahead and bet AGAINST Robrrts and the big 12's best scoring defense.




Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: scottwildcat on November 03, 2013, 08:22:31 PM
Betting the farm
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: PowercatPat on November 03, 2013, 11:08:42 PM
as much as i love this baylor team (which is a lot) we're the toughest opponent they've faced, and we had a legitimate shot to win that game late.  as we all learned last year, going undefeated is very hard.

i wouldn't be surprised if Baylor blows it against OU.  i sure hope they don't though.  -13 seems too much to me.

We are a better team than OU and I don't think Baylor has any trouble at all. They will win by about 30.

Please tell me what makes you think this. I think we have a good shot at beating OU but I don't think we are a better overall team.

Have you watched them play? What game have they looked impressive in? Is it their 16-7 win over WVU? Or maybe their 20-17 win over TCU? Baylor, Oklahoma State, and Kansas State are going to light OU up.

Have you watched us play? Our best win is against Louisiana Lafayette. No other team we've beaten is even going to make it to a bowl game. We have looked good the past two weekends but we have played two terrible teams. OU's wins against ND and Tech are way better than any wins we have.

OU's game Thursday and our game at Tech this weekend will be very telling about who is the better team, but right now I just don't see how you can say we are a better overall team than OU.

You could say it because we beat WV by a bunch more.    Also that we played UT closer and at their place.  Two common opponents, we looked better against both of them.  Not saying I would agree that we are better, but that's how you would say it.

We looked like crap against WVU too. We were behind the entire game until there were 2 minutes left in the third quarter.

I know you didn't say we are better but I think some people are fogetting that OU is 7-1 and ranked 10th in the BCS. Again, we have a good chance of beating OU, but to say we are a better team right now is dumb.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 04, 2013, 08:28:09 AM
as much as i love this baylor team (which is a lot) we're the toughest opponent they've faced, and we had a legitimate shot to win that game late.  as we all learned last year, going undefeated is very hard.

i wouldn't be surprised if Baylor blows it against OU.  i sure hope they don't though.  -13 seems too much to me.

We are a better team than OU and I don't think Baylor has any trouble at all. They will win by about 30.

Please tell me what makes you think this. I think we have a good shot at beating OU but I don't think we are a better overall team.

Have you watched them play? What game have they looked impressive in? Is it their 16-7 win over WVU? Or maybe their 20-17 win over TCU? Baylor, Oklahoma State, and Kansas State are going to light OU up.

Have you watched us play? Our best win is against Louisiana Lafayette. No other team we've beaten is even going to make it to a bowl game. We have looked good the past two weekends but we have played two terrible teams. OU's wins against ND and Tech are way better than any wins we have.

OU's game Thursday and our game at Tech this weekend will be very telling about who is the better team, but right now I just don't see how you can say we are a better overall team than OU.

You could say it because we beat WV by a bunch more.    Also that we played UT closer and at their place.  Two common opponents, we looked better against both of them.  Not saying I would agree that we are better, but that's how you would say it.

We looked like crap against WVU too. We were behind the entire game until there were 2 minutes left in the third quarter.

I know you didn't say we are better but I think some people are fogetting that OU is 7-1 and ranked 10th in the BCS. Again, we have a good chance of beating OU, but to say we are a better team right now is dumb.

It's not dumb at all. They suck and we are going to finish ahead of them in the Big 12 standings.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: catzacker on November 04, 2013, 08:45:41 AM
our secondary isn't good enough to beat tech.

You're an idiot.

Please bet your life on dorian roberts.

If you bet a nickel on every fucktard Willie nillie negative thing you've stated about the cats on this board you'd be so goddamn far in the whole your bookie would have crippled you and turned your pockets inside out.  Think about that catzacker.  Think about that.  And if you're still sure, YOU go ahead and bet AGAINST Robrrts and the big 12's best scoring defense.

yeah, my baylor thing last year was awful - so was the texas game.  just because i don't pump sunshine and want to explore the other side of any argument/debate/game, that makes me negative.  Our Pass Def Eff is 7th in the conf (just above KU).

but enjoy the circle jerk.

Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 04, 2013, 08:46:51 AM
Bet all the farms 45-16
This. We are going to scheme their faces off.

 :billdance: :billdance: :billdance:
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 04, 2013, 08:48:52 AM
if the D is able to win on third down the majority of the time I think we will win but this game is a big coin flip

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Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: Stevesie60 on November 04, 2013, 01:25:08 PM
if the D is able to win on third down the majority of the time I think we will win but this game is a big coin flip

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IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN A SMALL COIN FLIP!?!?! :runaway:
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 04, 2013, 01:41:55 PM
if the D is able to win on third down the majority of the time I think we will win but this game is a big coin flip

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.netanimations.net%2FMoving-picture-hand-flipping-coin-gif-animation.gif&hash=fc15c6f66c46188e921194ba0426e889cbb4b503)


IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN A SMALL COIN FLIP!?!?! :runaway:

It's a big coin because it's weighted so that it will fall on our side about 70% of the time.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: AbeFroman on November 04, 2013, 01:52:34 PM
I hope it is like the Tech game in 2011. Could be, right?
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 04, 2013, 03:09:58 PM
if the D is able to win on third down the majority of the time I think we will win but this game is a big coin flip

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.netanimations.net%2FMoving-picture-hand-flipping-coin-gif-animation.gif&hash=fc15c6f66c46188e921194ba0426e889cbb4b503)


IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN A SMALL COIN FLIP!?!?! :runaway:
waiting on chingon to run the numbers folks.. we were running the trial with waters flipping the quarter but he had trouble holding onto it
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 04, 2013, 03:12:26 PM
if the D is able to win on third down the majority of the time I think we will win but this game is a big coin flip

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.netanimations.net%2FMoving-picture-hand-flipping-coin-gif-animation.gif&hash=fc15c6f66c46188e921194ba0426e889cbb4b503)


IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN A SMALL COIN FLIP!?!?! :runaway:
waiting on chingon to run the numbers folks.. we were running the trial with waters flipping the quarter but he had trouble holding onto it

Due to the coin being big, no doubt.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 04, 2013, 03:14:07 PM
but we are more efficient when waters flips the coin.. quite the conundrum.. back to the drawing board fellas
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 04, 2013, 03:20:54 PM
but we are more efficient when waters flips the coin.. quite the conundrum.. back to the drawing board fellas

Maybe we could have Sams hold the coin, and then just let the flipper come in and flip away when it's showtime.
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 04, 2013, 03:27:27 PM
I'm going to rough ridin' lose it if, just before the flip, Water looks up and sees the clock is nearing zero and tries to call a time out but drops the coin.  But I will then laugh when both Waters and Sams bend down to pick up the coin and bumps heads.  :love:
Title: Re: +2.5
Post by: CHONGS on November 04, 2013, 08:01:48 PM
if the D is able to win on third down the majority of the time I think we will win but this game is a big coin flip

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.netanimations.net%2FMoving-picture-hand-flipping-coin-gif-animation.gif&hash=fc15c6f66c46188e921194ba0426e889cbb4b503)


IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN A SMALL COIN FLIP!?!?! :runaway:
waiting on chingon to run the numbers folks.. we were running the trial with waters flipping the quarter but he had trouble holding onto it
74% chance to win according to ChUMP