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Title: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: Pete on October 22, 2013, 07:58:56 PM
BITB had the Lord of Big 12 Referees on tonight to talk about the new rules changes.  They have the stated goal of cleaning up the rough defensive play on the ball and wanting to create more jump shots and more ease of motion for the offense....as well as cracking down on cheap charges (that part sucks for Sprads, but oh well).  The Lord of the Referees called this the most significant rule change in his 30 years, and basically guaranteed higher scoring and more jump shots ("J's").

What does this mean?

It means that oscar's motion offense is basically a lock to be rough ridin' nails, and that thug defense like Huggins and Frank are the buggy whips of college basketball (LOL at the gamecocks).


Thought that I'd pass this little nugget along to the rest of the board, and basically make your rough ridin' day.  YOU'RE WELCOME!  FTB, go cats.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: CNS on October 22, 2013, 07:59:55 PM
Now we just need a shooter.

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Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: Pete on October 22, 2013, 08:00:36 PM
Forgot to mention that the Lord of the Referees said it's EVERYONE in the USA that is doing this new rules thing, and not just the Big 12.  All the Ref Lords agreed to it, across the entire land.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: CNS on October 22, 2013, 08:02:08 PM
We literally have no reason to play sprads now that he can't flop the lane up.

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Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: Pete on October 22, 2013, 08:04:32 PM
We literally have no reason to play sprads now that he can't flop the lane up.

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Well, if he's not getting completely shut down when he has the ball on the perimeter, then maybe he shoots that Shawnee Mission South jump shot (you know, the one that hasn't worked since he was at Shawnee Mission South and the defenders had to stay off of him when he had the ball) he was famous for!
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: CNS on October 22, 2013, 08:06:19 PM
What do the new rules say about defenders being able to run full speed when guarding will?

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Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: wetwillie on October 22, 2013, 08:09:31 PM
Currie had to of seen this coming
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: sys on October 22, 2013, 08:14:27 PM
sounds like the breaks are going our way this year.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: Wildcatsfan4248 on October 22, 2013, 08:29:57 PM
What do the new rules say about defenders being able to run full speed when guarding will?

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 :lol:
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: eastcat on October 22, 2013, 10:46:12 PM
Does any player on our team even have a jump shot? I don't think think this will help.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: Pete on October 22, 2013, 10:56:03 PM

Does any player on our team even have a jump shot? I don't think think this will help.

Shane and Will should have one, if given the chance....we've always been told its there...

Westicles and the other new guys will be interesting to see.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 22, 2013, 11:31:47 PM
Its pretty presumptuous to assume you know how a rule change will affect the outcome of games. Huggs is probably the GCOAT in the history of Men's hoops so he'll be fine.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: Pete on October 22, 2013, 11:37:05 PM

Its pretty presumptuous to assume you know how a rule change will affect the outcome of games. Huggs is probably the GCOAT in the history of Men's hoops so he'll be fine.

Whoa, hey, let's not throw around a bunch of things we may regret saying later.  I am not presuming, I am predicting.  Way different my man. Half of this is science.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: bones129 on October 22, 2013, 11:43:29 PM
Does any player on our team even have a jump shot? I don't think think this will help.

I don't think oscar believes in jump shots.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 23, 2013, 12:32:34 AM
Will Frank Martin coached games go 4 hours now?
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: Pete on October 23, 2013, 07:09:23 AM

Will Frank Martin coached games go 4 hours now?

And ejections
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: kso_FAN on October 23, 2013, 07:19:58 AM
Will Frank Martin coached games go 4 hours now?

Over/under on the number of games Frank's teams finish with fewer than 5 players on the floor?

I'll go with 3. Maybe 4.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: hatingfrancisco on October 23, 2013, 09:24:30 AM
Want to know if oscar was aware of the impending rule changes?  Look at this years freshman class.

Well played oscar.

Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: catzacker on October 23, 2013, 09:52:04 AM
Focus on perimeter roughhousing = more roughhousing on the blocks?  I think so.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: _33 on October 23, 2013, 09:53:30 AM
Finally.  College basketball was getting to be almost unwatchable.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 23, 2013, 10:55:41 AM
thanks for the news Pete.  ftb
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: puniraptor on October 23, 2013, 12:05:55 PM
Want to know if oscar was aware of the impending rule changes?  Look at this years freshman class.

Well played oscar.

also surely motivated gip's inertia drop
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: Stevesie60 on October 23, 2013, 02:00:02 PM
Looks like Currie knew what he was doing when he hired oscar.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: pissclams on October 23, 2013, 02:14:28 PM
the subwoofer won't be stopped this season, not even by a brick wall
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 23, 2013, 02:17:02 PM
the subwoofer won't be stopped this season, not even by a brick wall

boom, shake shake shake the room.


room=bramlage coliseum aka the purple palace.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: CNS on October 23, 2013, 02:22:54 PM
Guys, I hope The Ace of Base(boss nickname for point guard with deep voice) is fully healthy this year.  We can't have a sprained hip, disjointed ear, or herniated non-shooting hand effect his shooting all season again.

Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: pissclams on October 23, 2013, 02:37:05 PM
Yeah, all I wanna do is shoot a shot shot shot
And a dunk dunk, just brake da rim

Yeah, all I wanna do is shoot a shot shot shot
And a dunk dunk, just brake da rim
Sub-woofer

Yeah, all I wanna do is shoot a shot shot shot
And a dunk dunk, just brake da rim
Sub-woofer

Yeah, all I wanna do is shoot a shot shot shot
And a dunk dunk, just brake da rim
Sub-woofer

Yeah, all I wanna do is shoot a shot shot shot
And a dunk dunk, just brake da rim
Sub-woofer

Check baby, check baby, one two three four
Check baby, check baby, one two three
Check baby, check baby, one two
Check baby, check baby, one

He's called the Subwoofer, his beats is like sweeter than candy
Subwoofers' feelin' manly and his crossover is comin' in handy

Slide em across OOD from the Legends down to the Tarp
Ticklin' you around the BTF before hittin a trey in the dark
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 23, 2013, 02:39:38 PM
Yeah, all I wanna do is shoot a shot shot shot
And a dunk dunk, just brake da rim

Yeah, all I wanna do is shoot a shot shot shot
And a dunk dunk, just brake da rim
Sub-woofer

Yeah, all I wanna do is shoot a shot shot shot
And a dunk dunk, just brake da rim
Sub-woofer

Yeah, all I wanna do is shoot a shot shot shot
And a dunk dunk, just brake da rim
Sub-woofer

Yeah, all I wanna do is shoot a shot shot shot
And a dunk dunk, just brake da rim
Sub-woofer

Check baby, check baby, one two three four
Check baby, check baby, one two three
Check baby, check baby, one two
Check baby, check baby, one

He's called the Subwoofer, his beats is like sweeter than candy
Subwoofers' feelin' manly and his crossover is comin' in handy

Slide em across OOD from the Legends down to the Tarp
Ticklin' you around the BTF before hittin a trey in the dark


 :lol:
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: Pete on October 23, 2013, 02:46:58 PM
Forgot another hilarious part of the Lord of Referees interview with BITB....

The Lord is trying to give BITB an example of how this will improve the game, and he brings up Steve Alford and some other old school small white guard and basically says "the way the game was being played before this rule change, those guys wouldn't have been effective."  And then says that the rule change "let's athletes be athletes and frees them to score on the perimeter more."

I found it amusing that his only definition of an "athlete" is apparently a jump shooter.  I could picture Frank Martin's blood boiling.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: CNS on October 23, 2013, 02:51:55 PM
ISU is going to win the conf.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: pissclams on October 23, 2013, 02:58:04 PM
Forgot another hilarious part of the Lord of Referees interview with BITB....

The Lord is trying to give BITB an example of how this will improve the game, and he brings up Steve Alford and some other old school small white guard and basically says "the way the game was being played before this rule change, those guys wouldn't have been effective."  And then says that the rule change "let's athletes be athletes and frees them to score on the perimeter more."

I found it amusing that his only definition of an "athlete" is apparently a jump shooter.  I could picture Frank Martin's blood boiling.

mark price
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on October 23, 2013, 04:49:05 PM
Rumblings that Athlon Sports will be issuing a revised list of top 50 coaches.   :Wha:
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: HerrSonntag on October 23, 2013, 09:54:47 PM
Quote from: Future Webber
Well, you know, its difficult to play on the road with all these rule changes.  You think your guys can play one way, but then they can't so you just fold your arm and stomp your feet and hope for the best... sometimes (all the time) it doesn't work out.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: CNS on October 24, 2013, 10:20:08 AM
"We were allowed to be a lot more physical last season which as you can see is the method of play we prefer and excel at.  It's going to take us time to adjust to the new rules and we will definitely have to focus on getting the right personnel on campus for us to play that way.  It's a process that takes time."
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: Cire on October 24, 2013, 10:27:39 AM
haven't those things always been fouls?

the physical teams will continue to beat the crap out of people some games will be officiated like the ksu/mizzou game several years ago

fans, tv, espn will complain and refs will back off.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 24, 2013, 10:33:36 AM
So, do the too cool for schoolers who prefer defense by mugging and Frank Martin style shitsketball offense get angry when a K-State player is mugged but nothing is called?


Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: star seed 7 on October 24, 2013, 10:36:48 AM
No. I hate how many fouls are called in a game.  Let'em play.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: kso_FAN on October 24, 2013, 10:37:31 AM
So, do the too cool for schoolers who prefer defense by mugging and Frank Martin style shitsketball offense get angry when a K-State player is mugged but nothing is called?

I just liked winning, even if it meant games that approached 3 hours. If someone can win with a little bit cleaner version of the game I would also enjoy that, last year was fun for me.

I'm with Cire, I'm anxious to see how much the officials really enforce these "changes", especially when we get to meaningful games in conference play.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: catzacker on October 24, 2013, 11:01:21 AM
So, do the too cool for schoolers who prefer defense by mugging and Frank Martin style shitsketball offense get angry when a K-State player is mugged but nothing is called?

ya know, Bill Gates was too cool for school.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 24, 2013, 11:07:29 AM
So, do the too cool for schoolers who prefer defense by mugging and Frank Martin style shitsketball offense get angry when a K-State player is mugged but nothing is called?

ya know, Bill Gates was too cool for school.

The first person on this board who can prove they're worth $67 Billion (Forbes 2013) will get pass from the "Too cool for school" label.



Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 24, 2013, 11:45:31 AM
So, do the too cool for schoolers who prefer defense by mugging and Frank Martin style shitsketball offense get angry when a K-State player is mugged but nothing is called?

ya know, Bill Gates was too cool for school.

The first person on this board who can prove they're worth $67 Billion (Forbes 2013) will get pass from the "Too cool for school" label.

Sounds like it's time to go scan my pay stub.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 30, 2013, 08:17:46 AM
After watching the KU game, I really hate this new "everything is a foul" rule. The worst part about it is having to listen to the commentators talk about it for two hours, but the number of whistles really gets on my nerves, too.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: pissclams on October 30, 2013, 08:51:58 AM
After watching the KU game, I really hate this new "everything is a foul" rule. The worst part about it is having to listen to the commentators talk about it for two hours, but the number of whistles really gets on my nerves, too.

everything is a foul when you're playing KU in Lawrence.  this is not a new rule.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 30, 2013, 09:26:30 AM
After watching the KU game, I really hate this new "everything is a foul" rule. The worst part about it is having to listen to the commentators talk about it for two hours, but the number of whistles really gets on my nerves, too.

everything is a foul when you're playing KU in Lawrence.  this is not a new rule.

They were blowing whistles on KU, too. It was bullshit.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: catzacker on October 30, 2013, 09:35:22 AM
the games early in the sesaon will be the worst as the officials make it a point of emphasis.  will be interested to see how the ku/duke game is called.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 30, 2013, 10:08:58 AM
A lot of it is way over due.  I know this is upsetting for many on this board who were proud supporters of $hitketball offense or fapped it repeatedly over Brad "Pinch Post" Underwood bailing an utterly clueless Frank "I don't know what to do with these guys except scream at them" Martin out of the fire a couple of years ago (but I digress).   But the level of thug ball had gone to far.

Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: catzacker on October 30, 2013, 10:21:56 AM
The new rules will not create any more flow in the game.  It won’t make it any better.  It doesn’t/didn’t make the NBA any better. 
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 30, 2013, 10:23:19 AM
The new rules will not create any more flow in the game.  It won’t make it any better.  It doesn’t/didn’t make the NBA any better.

Primarily because so many more players these days can't shoot the basketball.   

Chicago was under 25% from the field last night.  Laughable.

Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: Skipper44 on October 30, 2013, 10:46:37 AM
Frank's formula of basing the team on physical defense and rebounding was working and will continue to work.  It makes sense for a place like Kstate that is not going to win many national recruiting battles and has a program like KU down the road that can make it difficult to get the top regional guys.  Add to that Franks commitment to recruiting size and success with developing some raw prospects in a time where there are fewer and fewer teams with quality size and depth makes it a good plan for long term success.

Additionally, there seem to be fewer and fewer "Defense and Rebounding First" type young coaches - Drew, Ford and Hoi are all clearly offensive first type coaches.  Similar to Big 12 football I would rather be the odd duck playing the unusual style than try to beat Briles, Gundy, Holgo and Kliff at their own game.

Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: Havs on October 30, 2013, 11:57:38 AM
The new rules will not create any more flow in the game.  It won’t make it any better.  It doesn’t/didn’t make the NBA any better.

Its an adjustment Fred already had to make.  :love:
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: deputy dawg on October 30, 2013, 12:37:46 PM
BITB had the Lord of Big 12 Referees on tonight to talk about the new rules changes.  They have the stated goal of cleaning up the rough defensive play on the ball and wanting to create more jump shots and more ease of motion for the offense....as well as cracking down on cheap charges (that part sucks for Sprads, but oh well).  The Lord of the Referees called this the most significant rule change in his 30 years, and basically guaranteed higher scoring and more jump shots ("J's").

What does this mean?

It means that oscar's motion offense is basically a lock to be rough ridin' nails, and that thug defense like Huggins and Frank are the buggy whips of college basketball (LOL at the gamecocks).


Thought that I'd pass this little nugget along to the rest of the board, and basically make your rough ridin' day.  YOU'RE WELCOME!  FTB, go cats.

Listened to this segment on 810 as well.  First thought was....Frank's screwed.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: star seed 7 on October 30, 2013, 01:15:10 PM
A lot of it is way over due.  I know this is upsetting for many on this board who were proud supporters of $hitketball offense or fapped it repeatedly over Brad "Pinch Post" Underwood bailing an utterly clueless Frank "I don't know what to do with these guys except scream at them" Martin out of the fire a couple of years ago (but I digress).   But the level of thug ball had gone to far.

yeah, driveway hero's are impressive.  know what's even more impressive?  making a shot when you're getting roughed up. 
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: star seed 7 on October 30, 2013, 01:16:31 PM
you guys know what's fun?  watching a basketball game that doesn't have a whistle blown every 20 seconds of game time.  that's pretty fun.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: Cire on October 31, 2013, 09:03:49 AM
winning is fun.

.
Title: Re: New Officiating Rules = oscar Domination, Huggs in Troubs, and Frank in the Tank
Post by: EMAWzified on October 31, 2013, 10:58:34 AM
Frank Martin's offense is about getting to the line. He'll be fine.