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Title: I don't hate Martavious anymore
Post by: steve dave on March 27, 2010, 06:29:40 PM
 :surprised:
Title: Re: I don't hate Martavious anymore
Post by: ToupeeFearsTheBeard on March 27, 2010, 06:31:45 PM
Can we just call him Weezy from now on...  :dunno:

Martavious is a lil too long
Title: Re: I don't hate Martavious anymore
Post by: steve dave on March 27, 2010, 06:32:36 PM
Can we just call him Weezy from now on...  :dunno:

Martavious is a lil too long

ummmmm, no.  Fred Brown was weezy. 
Title: Re: I don't hate Martavious anymore
Post by: Trim on March 27, 2010, 08:52:11 PM
I don't hate Martavious anymore

Why not?
Title: Re: I don't hate Martavious anymore
Post by: michigancat on March 27, 2010, 08:53:40 PM
I don't hate Martavious anymore

Why not?

x2
Title: Re: I don't hate Martavious anymore
Post by: Cire on March 27, 2010, 09:34:12 PM
Is a shorter Dom IMO.
Title: Re: I don't hate Martavious anymore
Post by: wes mantooth on March 28, 2010, 12:46:01 AM
Really need an SD answer as to why.   :users:
Title: Re: I don't hate Martavious anymore
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2010, 11:57:07 AM
was just bored, and angry at Irving lovers/Brown haters.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=fred-brown&fred-brown=2008-2009&p1=martavious-irving

Fred Brown gets us to the final Four.  Believe it!
Title: Re: I don't hate Martavious anymore
Post by: _33 on March 30, 2010, 12:08:45 PM
was just bored, and angry at Irving lovers/Brown haters.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=fred-brown&fred-brown=2008-2009&p1=martavious-irving

Fred Brown gets us to the final Four.  Believe it!

Michigancat, I agree with you on most things...but on this one I'm going to have to also agree.
Title: Re: I don't hate Martavious anymore
Post by: catzacker on March 30, 2010, 12:28:30 PM
was just bored, and angry at Irving lovers/Brown haters.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=fred-brown&fred-brown=2008-2009&p1=martavious-irving

Fred Brown gets us to the final Four.  Believe it!

Was sayin' this all off season.  Can't wait for Frank to leave.
Title: Re: I don't hate Martavious anymore
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 30, 2010, 12:33:30 PM
Frank looked down the bench looking for some offense and found . . .



































































nothing
Title: Re: I don't hate Martavious anymore
Post by: mcmwcat on March 30, 2010, 12:41:56 PM
 :users:
Title: Re: I don't hate Martavious anymore
Post by: Jmo on March 30, 2010, 12:47:17 PM
was just bored, and angry at Irving lovers/Brown haters.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=fred-brown&fred-brown=2008-2009&p1=martavious-irving

Fred Brown gets us to the final Four.  Believe it!

Michigancat, I agree with you on most things...but on this one I'm going to have to also agree.

 :rolleyes: Fred would have bounced it off his foot ten times that game.

Honestly don't understand the love affair w/ him.   :dunno:
Title: Re: I don't hate Martavious anymore
Post by: AbeFroman on March 30, 2010, 12:55:01 PM
Brown couldn't cut it in practice, no way was he ever going to survive here. The only one that it sounds like he was forced out was Anderson, and he wasn't that good anyways.
Title: Re: I don't hate Martavious anymore
Post by: catsdo on March 30, 2010, 03:36:15 PM
Fred Brown made some 3's sometimes and stuff.
Title: Re: I don't hate Martavious anymore
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2010, 03:38:00 PM
was just bored, and angry at Irving lovers/Brown haters.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=fred-brown&fred-brown=2008-2009&p1=martavious-irving

Fred Brown gets us to the final Four.  Believe it!

Michigancat, I agree with you on most things...but on this one I'm going to have to also agree.

 :rolleyes: Fred would have bounced it off his foot ten times that game.

Honestly don't understand the love affair w/ him.   :dunno:

His TO rate is better than MartIrv's.
Title: Re: I don't hate Martavious anymore
Post by: kitten_mittons on March 30, 2010, 03:42:40 PM
Fred Brown made some 3's sometimes and stuff.

Yeah, when he was wide open.  How many wide open 3's did K-state attempt in the butler game?
Title: Re: I don't hate Martavious anymore
Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2010, 03:44:00 PM
Fred Brown made some 3's sometimes and stuff.

Yeah, when he was wide open.  How many wide open 3's did K-state attempt in the butler game?

You remember the three he took to save our asses v. Texas?
Title: Re: I don't hate Martavious anymore
Post by: michigancat on March 30, 2010, 03:47:26 PM
Fred Brown made some 3's sometimes and stuff.

Yeah, when he was wide open.  How many wide open 3's did K-state attempt in the butler game?

You remember the three he took to save our asses v. Texas?

did same thing at aTm, IIRC.
Title: Re: I don't hate Martavious anymore
Post by: SleepFighter on March 30, 2010, 04:09:13 PM
Fred Brown made some 3's sometimes and stuff.

Yeah, when he was wide open.  How many wide open 3's did K-state attempt in the butler game?

You remember the three he took to save our asses v. Texas?

did same thing at aTm, IIRC.

Yes.
Title: Re: I don't hate Martavious anymore
Post by: DOOMsday on March 30, 2010, 11:00:38 PM
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Title: Re: I don't hate Martavious anymore
Post by: CatsFan_58 on March 31, 2010, 01:11:35 AM
was just bored, and angry at Irving lovers/Brown haters.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=fred-brown&fred-brown=2008-2009&p1=martavious-irving

Fred Brown gets us to the final Four.  Believe it!

Michigancat, I agree with you on most things...but on this one I'm going to have to also agree.

 :rolleyes: Fred would have bounced it off his foot ten times that game.

Honestly don't understand the love affair w/ him.   :dunno:
probably because fred brown was wet from three. gonna go with the dax argument. fred brown=instant offense.
Title: Re: I don't hate Martavious anymore
Post by: waks on March 31, 2010, 02:22:37 AM
was just bored, and angry at Irving lovers/Brown haters.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=fred-brown&fred-brown=2008-2009&p1=martavious-irving

Fred Brown gets us to the final Four.  Believe it!

Michigancat, I agree with you on most things...but on this one I'm going to have to also agree.

 :rolleyes: Fred would have bounced it off his foot ten times that game.

Honestly don't understand the love affair w/ him.   :dunno:

His TO rate is better than MartIrv's.
Meh, wouldn't be surprised if Irving put up similar numbers at ULM. Brown has two years on Irving and plays against competition that doesn't even compare. He is way ahead of Martavious on the offensive side on the ball but their stats are nearly identical on the defensive side. Don't really see why I should be impressed by Fred...
Title: Re: I don't hate Martavious anymore
Post by: SuperG on March 31, 2010, 02:27:07 AM
Fred Brown made some 3's sometimes and stuff.

So did Rodney McGruder. And Rodney McGruder is also better at basketball than Fred Brown. Doesn't mean Frank would have played either of them.
Title: Re: I don't hate Martavious anymore
Post by: michigancat on March 31, 2010, 06:52:29 AM
was just bored, and angry at Irving lovers/Brown haters.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=fred-brown&fred-brown=2008-2009&p1=martavious-irving

Fred Brown gets us to the final Four.  Believe it!

Michigancat, I agree with you on most things...but on this one I'm going to have to also agree.

 :rolleyes: Fred would have bounced it off his foot ten times that game.

Honestly don't understand the love affair w/ him.   :dunno:

His TO rate is better than MartIrv's.
Meh, wouldn't be surprised if Irving put up similar numbers at ULM. Brown has two years on Irving and plays against competition that doesn't even compare. He is way ahead of Martavious on the offensive side on the ball but their stats are nearly identical on the defensive side. Don't really see why I should be impressed by Fred...

Um, because he's way ahead of Martavious on the offensive side of the ball.  :dunno:

But really, I'm not saying that Brown would be all-conference or anything, just that KSU would be better if he was on the team instead of Irving, Russell, or Merriewether's scholarship.

I don't get the Fred Brown haters at all.  Maybe it's just blind Frank homerism?  :dunno:
Title: Re: I don't hate Martavious anymore
Post by: kso_FAN on March 31, 2010, 07:26:50 AM
I don't get the Fred Brown haters at all.  Maybe it's just blind Frank homerism?  :dunno:

Pretty much.