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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: kso_FAN on September 26, 2013, 02:42:41 PM
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Not the usual (more typical breakdown of Texas later).
http://goEMAW.com/blog/?p=2979
Fire away.
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start Sams at QB Bill, you dumbass
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start Sams at QB Bill, you dumbass
:lol:
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Very appropriate title. There is only ONE answer.
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was hoping for advanced stats.
start letting Sams throw the ball Bill, you dumbass
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Whatever our deficiencies (and they are plenty), if Bill would have just chosen one QB from the beginning and tailored his game plan to that QB's talents, we coast to a 7-8 win season and gain confidence for a run next year. Given that that's all anyone was asking of this year anyway, I consider our current situation a colossal failure in coaching.
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Whatever our deficiencies (and they are plenty), if Bill would have just chosen one QB from the beginning and tailored his game plan to that QB's talents, we coast to a 7-8 win season and gain confidence for a run next year. Given that that's all anyone was asking of this year anyway, I consider our current situation a colossal failure in coaching.
He needed to choose the right QB. We aren't any worse because Sams plays a drive here and there in a football game. We are worse because he doesn't play every drive.
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was hoping for advanced stats.
Texas breakdown will be coming...
I will say my initial impression that the package we had for Sams was too simple was not correct. The case for more passing is still valid, but there was a pass play called (run action seam route to McDonald) that UT's defensive front blew up. However, the things we had in the run game for him were pretty diverse when you combine play calls and formations. More on that later...
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was hoping for advanced stats.
Texas breakdown will be coming...
I will say my initial impression that the package we had for Sams was too simple was not correct. The case for more passing is still valid, but there was a pass play called (run action seam route to McDonald) that UT's defensive front blew up. However, the things we had in the run game for him were pretty diverse when you combine play calls and formations. More on that later...
I'd say the seam route with run action is actually a perfect example of uncreative playcalling given that we showed it with Sams in another game already and that it was also the Snyder dementia play vs UMass.
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_fan can you break down the third down calls
I mean woof
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was hoping for advanced stats.
Texas breakdown will be coming...
I will say my initial impression that the package we had for Sams was too simple was not correct. The case for more passing is still valid, but there was a pass play called (run action seam route to McDonald) that UT's defensive front blew up. However, the things we had in the run game for him were pretty diverse when you combine play calls and formations. More on that later...
I'd say the seam route with run action is actually a perfect example of uncreative playcalling given that we showed it with Sams in another game already and that it was also the Snyder dementia play vs UMass.
The problem with your impression is that it was a perfect play call if it had been executed. UT's defensive tackle absolutely destroyed one of our offensive linemen which didn't allow Sams time to run fake and throw. McDonald had the linebacker beat by 5 yards down the seam, plus Texas had sent their safety on a run blitz, so they had no defenders left in the middle of the field.
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guessing that was at the point that they were completely selling out on run when sams came in.
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guessing that was at the point that they were completely selling out on run when sams came in.
Yes, sending the safties, which made it an ideal play call if we get the tackle blocked.
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was hoping for advanced stats.
Texas breakdown will be coming...
I will say my initial impression that the package we had for Sams was too simple was not correct. The case for more passing is still valid, but there was a pass play called (run action seam route to McDonald) that UT's defensive front blew up. However, the things we had in the run game for him were pretty diverse when you combine play calls and formations. More on that later...
I think you're correct in the micro sense. Our run plays with him were diverse, and there was definitely a pass option on one play, but in the macro that is still very one dimensional. He played around ten snaps and only one pass play was called. If we are ever to learn something about Sams as a QB in this system, his run/pass ratio needs to be at least 50/50.
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I think you're correct in the micro sense. Our run plays with him were diverse, and there was definitely a pass option on one play, but in the macro that is still very one dimensional. He played around ten snaps and only one pass play was called. If we are ever to learn something about Sams as a QB in this system, his run/pass ratio needs to be at least 50/50.
I don't disagree with that.
From rewatching the game here is my impression of what happened; the gameplan going into the game definitely involved both quarterbacks. Each had a pretty solid package, of course Sams' was very run heavy. Once we got down 17-0, the plan for Sams was shelved because the staff thought Waters (and throwing) was the best way to get back into the game.
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I think you're correct in the micro sense. Our run plays with him were diverse, and there was definitely a pass option on one play, but in the macro that is still very one dimensional. He played around ten snaps and only one pass play was called. If we are ever to learn something about Sams as a QB in this system, his run/pass ratio needs to be at least 50/50.
I don't disagree with that.
From rewatching the game here is my impression of what happened; the gameplan going into the game definitely involved both quarterbacks. Each had a pretty solid package, of course Sams' was very run heavy. Once we got down 17-0, the plan for Sams was shelved because the staff thought Waters (and throwing) was the best way to get back into the game.
I think you're correct on what precipitated Waters playing the majority of the game. I'm afraid that if Sams isn't give a chance to run the whole offense early on in games this year, then we may never see it. Waters seems to be a slow starter, and our defense is pedestrian at best. We are going to be playing from behind a lot this year, and I think that means we will turn to Waters exclusively, unless he really screws the pooch. Kind of depressing when think about it.
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I think you're correct in the micro sense. Our run plays with him were diverse, and there was definitely a pass option on one play, but in the macro that is still very one dimensional. He played around ten snaps and only one pass play was called. If we are ever to learn something about Sams as a QB in this system, his run/pass ratio needs to be at least 50/50.
I don't disagree with that.
From rewatching the game here is my impression of what happened; the gameplan going into the game definitely involved both quarterbacks. Each had a pretty solid package, of course Sams' was very run heavy. Once we got down 17-0, the plan for Sams was shelved because the staff thought Waters (and throwing) was the best way to get back into the game.
I think you're correct on what precipitated Waters playing the majority of the game. I'm afraid that if Sams isn't give a chance to run the whole offense early on in games this year, then we may never see it. Waters seems to be a slow starter, and our defense is pedestrian at best. We are going to be playing from behind a lot this year, and I think that means we will turn to Waters exclusively, unless he really screws the pooch. Kind of depressing when think about it.
I think we should give Waters the "99, Iowa State, Adam Helm" treatment.
If we need to get back in a game because the D is getting stepped on and Sams can't keep up, then we should throw Waters in to bring us back into the game.
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I think you're correct in the micro sense. Our run plays with him were diverse, and there was definitely a pass option on one play, but in the macro that is still very one dimensional. He played around ten snaps and only one pass play was called. If we are ever to learn something about Sams as a QB in this system, his run/pass ratio needs to be at least 50/50.
I don't disagree with that.
From rewatching the game here is my impression of what happened; the gameplan going into the game definitely involved both quarterbacks. Each had a pretty solid package, of course Sams' was very run heavy. Once we got down 17-0, the plan for Sams was shelved because the staff thought Waters (and throwing) was the best way to get back into the game.
I think you're correct on what precipitated Waters playing the majority of the game. I'm afraid that if Sams isn't give a chance to run the whole offense early on in games this year, then we may never see it. Waters seems to be a slow starter, and our defense is pedestrian at best. We are going to be playing from behind a lot this year, and I think that means we will turn to Waters exclusively, unless he really screws the pooch. Kind of depressing when think about it.
I just don't understand how somebody can watch the end of the Texas game and think that Waters is the best QB to use when we fall behind. We were down 2 scores and running the no huddle, yet we couldn't have run more clock if we tried. If we are still going to go with a "check with me" system trying to come back from behind while conserving clock, then we might as well go with the guy who might bust a big play every now and then.
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Waters playing shitty early just leads to him playing more because he's our "play from behind" QV. It's sickening.
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was hoping for advanced stats.
Texas breakdown will be coming...
I will say my initial impression that the package we had for Sams was too simple was not correct. The case for more passing is still valid, but there was a pass play called (run action seam route to McDonald) that UT's defensive front blew up. However, the things we had in the run game for him were pretty diverse when you combine play calls and formations. More on that later...
I'd say the seam route with run action is actually a perfect example of uncreative playcalling given that we showed it with Sams in another game already and that it was also the Snyder dementia play vs UMass.
The problem with your impression is that it was a perfect play call if it had been executed. UT's defensive tackle absolutely destroyed one of our offensive linemen which didn't allow Sams time to run fake and throw. McDonald had the linebacker beat by 5 yards down the seam, plus Texas had sent their safety on a run blitz, so they had no defenders left in the middle of the field.
In that case, it's unfortunate we only have one pass play we seem comfortable running with Sams.
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Waters playing shitty early just leads to him playing more because he's our "play from behind" QV. It's sickening.
He probably does it on purpose. What a total bad person :shakesfist:
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Waters playing shitty early just leads to him playing more because he's our "play from behind" QV. It's sickening.
it is sickening. also, it's HORRIFIC.
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Waters playing shitty early just leads to him playing more because he's our "play from behind" QV. It's sickening.
it is sickening. also, it's HORRIFIC.
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