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Title: Has anyone looked back on the fake punt play??
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 23, 2013, 05:46:46 PM
If so, were we in any kind of "defend the fake punt" scheme??

Title: Re: Has anyone looked back on the fake punt play??
Post by: Frankenklein on September 23, 2013, 06:24:03 PM
We make it off the field on third down AND defend a fake punt...Asking a bit much I think
Title: Re: Has anyone looked back on the fake punt play??
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 23, 2013, 06:26:48 PM
We make it off the field on third down AND defend a fake punt...Asking a bit much I think

Proably right, plus with the field position and distance, who in the wide world of sports runs a fake in that situation?




Title: Re: Has anyone looked back on the fake punt play??
Post by: puniraptor on September 23, 2013, 06:27:28 PM

If so, were we in any kind of "defend the fake punt" scheme??

Nope. Normal punt coverage. Mack obviously broke their "Gentleman's Agreement".
Title: Re: Has anyone looked back on the fake punt play??
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on September 23, 2013, 06:29:17 PM
We make it off the field on third down AND defend a fake punt...Asking a bit much I think

Proably right, plus with the field position and distance, who in the wide world of sports runs a fake in that situation?
Brent and Herbstreet said that punting was "absolutely the right football move" in that situation so there would have been no reason to anticipate a fake punt, in that instance.
Title: Re: Has anyone looked back on the fake punt play??
Post by: CNS on September 23, 2013, 06:29:47 PM
Designed to bend w/o breaking.  They didn't house the fake.....
Title: Re: Has anyone looked back on the fake punt play??
Post by: kso_FAN on September 23, 2013, 08:09:25 PM
Has been addressed, maybe the worst coaching moment of the night. That's saying something.
Title: Re: Has anyone looked back on the fake punt play??
Post by: 'taterblast on September 23, 2013, 08:14:43 PM
i was screaming 'it's a fake!' for about 10 seconds before the ball was snapped. they didn't hear me.
Title: Re: Has anyone looked back on the fake punt play??
Post by: k-state87 on September 23, 2013, 08:26:28 PM
The side Texas ran the fake to every K-State player was small in stature (6' 180lbs type of players), it wouldn't matter if Texas told K-State they were faking it because Texas had the bigger bodies on that side of the formation & they would open a big hole every time.
Title: Re: Has anyone looked back on the fake punt play??
Post by: kso_FAN on September 23, 2013, 08:33:46 PM
Texas runs a shield punt with three upbacks (like every other team in college football). In an obvious fake punt situation, they a) shift one upback up and b) tighten their line splits. Then c) walk a second upback up, right to the gap where they ran the fake. If there is any time to call a timeout, it's right there.

Mind numbing.
Title: Re: Has anyone looked back on the fake punt play??
Post by: HerrSonntag on September 23, 2013, 08:43:42 PM
During the game i noticed that our punt coverage was pretty light on trying to block the punt, too many guys lined up deep trying to block for the return... or at least compared to Texas who somehow didn't get called for repeatedly swarming our punter and making contact several times that i thought should have been called.  Texas ST coach must have thought that comparatively we weren't keeping the punt team honest.
Title: Re: Has anyone looked back on the fake punt play??
Post by: kso_FAN on September 23, 2013, 08:46:45 PM
During the game i noticed that our punt coverage was pretty light on trying to block the punt, too many guys lined up deep trying to block for the return... or at least compared to Texas who somehow didn't get called for repeatedly swarming our punter and making contact several times that i thought should have been called.  Texas ST coach must have thought that comparatively we weren't keeping the punt team honest.

Yeah, we pretty much don't even try to block points anymore. But it shouldn't matter when it's 4th and 2 at midfield, especially when the punt team shifts their alignment.
Title: Re: Has anyone looked back on the fake punt play??
Post by: Shooter Jones on September 23, 2013, 08:46:48 PM
just an absolutely fuckin' embarrassing display by everyone involved on our side.
 
But.. there was an obvious false start, fuckin' embarrassing that the refs missed it. 3:20 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJG3ZSfNJDQ
Title: Re: Has anyone looked back on the fake punt play??
Post by: kougar24 on September 23, 2013, 11:17:41 PM
It's like you dudes forgot Sean Snyder is our special teams coach.
Title: Re: Has anyone looked back on the fake punt play??
Post by: PowercatPat on September 23, 2013, 11:19:35 PM
i was screaming 'it's a fake!' for about 10 seconds before the ball was snapped. they didn't hear me.

Yeah, it was very obvious that it was going to be a fake after the UT player in the backfield went in motion.
Title: Re: Has anyone looked back on the fake punt play??
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 23, 2013, 11:36:51 PM
It's like you dudes forgot Sean Snyder is our special teams coach.

You're continued inability to understand the agenda is the reason why you'll never have a real job at this agency.

Now get back there and do up some photo shops for us to review lil' fella (pats head)


Title: Re: Has anyone looked back on the fake punt play??
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Title: Re: Has anyone looked back on the fake punt play??
Post by: kougar24 on September 24, 2013, 02:17:30 PM
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Title: Re: Has anyone looked back on the fake punt play??
Post by: Cire on September 24, 2013, 03:01:11 PM
I thought it was a false start or at least an illegal shift.

Fan is there a rule for players moving or was that a blown call?