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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: Steffy08 on September 23, 2013, 04:22:07 PM
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First post. Been lurking for long time, because I can't help but to read K-State stuff.
I am no "tuck." I like the spirit of holding our people accountable and being realistic about our teams. (The nasty stuff about our players is unnecessary, though.)
That said, y'all need to stop the "Snyder sucks" crap. It simply isn't true. There is a long track record of him not sucking to go on. I agree that this doesn't mean to turn a blind eye to where things stand now and going forward, but four games is not near enough to turn your back on Snyder. We were Big 12 Champs last year. Y'all were wrong about the wisdom of hiring Snyder again. Get over it. Be happy. Hope that things continue to roll. It might be caving in around him (I doubt it), but there is no way in hell any of you could know that at this point in time. In any event, a couple average seasons is not going to ever make you right about the wisdom of hiring him four years ago, not when we just had a 15-3 stretch through conference. So just move on and hope for the best, and continue to evaluate. That doesn't make you a tuck. It makes you rational.
Second, your obsession with Sams is weird. I like the guy, too. He might be the answer. But nobody on here can possibly know that for sure. Really, y'all have fallen into the trap of believing that the back-up QB is always the best. You might not admit it, but this is actually very tuckish of you. So, quit it. I hope that one of these guys takes control and establishes himself as our starter. I still think that might happen, and that we could be pretty damn good by the end of this year. But, why commit yourself to one or the other, and then root against the other? Particularly considering how little any of us really know about the capabilities of Sams. (LOL at y'all pointing to spring games stats, too.)
I get the feeling that many of you would rather Waters (and Snyder) fail than succeed. That is warped...and stupid.
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Whatever you say, tuck.
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Great, here comes koppe
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Oh man, get a load of this guy. :lol:
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As a fellow human being and ksu cats fan, I respect your opinion. Some of your feelings are wrong, though. And some of your opinions.
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Snyder has sucked this year, sooooo
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Steffy08 just (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Femoticoner.com%2Ffiles%2Femoticons%2Fsmileys%2Fclown-smiley.gif%3F1292867571&hash=7b5c3b03e66ee1f05386d0ca7de1a6fd99fad2ea) you assholes.
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Steffy08 just (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Femoticoner.com%2Ffiles%2Femoticons%2Fsmileys%2Fclown-smiley.gif%3F1292867571&hash=7b5c3b03e66ee1f05386d0ca7de1a6fd99fad2ea) you assholes.
Not really. Fanning did a much better job (at least until he backtracked on it)
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I'm not sure I've seen any one else use y'all like that here.
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Oh man, get a load of this guy. :lol:
It's a woman cause Steffy. It also types "y'all," which means it's an awful person. It's also very bossy to people it doesn't know.
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Steffy08 just (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Femoticoner.com%2Ffiles%2Femoticons%2Fsmileys%2Fclown-smiley.gif%3F1292867571&hash=7b5c3b03e66ee1f05386d0ca7de1a6fd99fad2ea) you assholes.
Not really. Fanning did a much better job (at least until he backtracked on it)
Thanks man!
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This was pretty great and gave me a good laugh.
Steffy raises a good point though... It does seem like a lot of people on here would rather go 5-7 with Sams than 9-3 with Waters. Not saying either of those records are a reflection of each guy's ability (probably far from it), but you get the idea...
That said, quit it, guys...
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Nobody wants Waters to fail. Waters has failed, and people are just calling him out on it. Snyder has also failed by not being able to see this.
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just win no matter what.
Turn the ball over and lose and look shitty? GTFO.
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Oh man, get a load of this guy. :lol:
It's a woman cause Steffy. It also types "y'all," which means it's an awful person. It's also very bossy to people it doesn't know.
I lost my virginity to a girl named Steffy :runaway:
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If Sams had started day 1 and lost to NDSU and Texas, while not looking very good against ULL and UMass either, I would be calling for Waters to start. Something has to change. The product on the field just isn't acceptable.
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If Sams had started day 1 and lost to NDSU and Texas, while not looking very good against ULL and UMass either, I would be calling for Waters to start. Something has to change. The product on the field just isn't acceptable.
Yep, and 7 to's after that we would all be yelling for Baby Klein.
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Dimel sucks for not letting Sams throw...even Snyder agrees with this. Also TT.
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Oh man, get a load of this guy. :lol:
It's a woman cause Steffy. It also types "y'all," which means it's an awful person. It's also very bossy to people it doesn't know.
I already don't like her.
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If Sams had started day 1 and lost to NDSU and Texas, while not looking very good against ULL and UMass either, I would be calling for Waters to start. Something has to change. The product on the field just isn't acceptable.
HSC
Yep, and 7 to's after that we would all be yelling for Baby Klein.
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Nobody wants Waters to fail. Waters has failed, and people are just calling him out on it. Snyder has also failed by not being able to see this.
:thumbs:
The 'tuck talking point of some people on here wanting us to fail rather than succeed in an "uncool" way is hilariously off and always has been. 99% of us would be throwing up :lynchmob: if Travis Tannehill was our quarterback and quoting stormfront in press conferences if he happened to lead us to an 11-1 record. Sure, we'd be waiting for a moment's notice to throw him to the wolves whenever he did slip up, but hey. That's goEMAW.com.
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Nobody wants Waters to fail. Waters has failed, and people are just calling him out on it. Snyder has also failed by not being able to see this.
Agreed. Let's at least fail with something new instead of something we already know fails. No one would be against waters if he didn't turn the ball over all the time and lose games against bad teams. We'd be against SAMs starting if he constantly fumbled or threw INTS on 3rd down or in the red zone while waters came in for a few plays and was awesome and never turned the ball over.
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If Sams had started day 1 and lost to NDSU and Texas, while not looking very good against ULL and UMass either, I would be calling for Waters to start. Something has to change. The product on the field just isn't acceptable.
Yep, and 7 to's after that we would all be yelling for Baby Klein.
Noticed he got a lot of Miller's PT on Saturday. Not that it made a difference...
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I hope this is the real Steffy08 from GPC but I'm sure it isn't :blank:
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Yep, let's be happy with 5-7 from Waters because it's possible we might go 4-8 with Sams!
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So many words...
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Snyder sucks. Sorry, but facts are facts. It's science.
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Isn't it possible that maybe, just maybe, some people prefer an offensive system that heavily utilizes a running quarterback? I mean, our most successful teams were led by running quarterbacks. Our favorite teams were led by running quarterbacks. Maybe, as fans, we like running quarterbacks? I mean, Christ you tuck.
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Someone makes a Steffy sock, this dumbass rallies to the cause. :lol:
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is the real Steffy 08 a great guy or gal?
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Snyder sucks. Sorry, but facts are facts. It's science.
just quit it
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First post. Been lurking for long time, because I can't help but to read K-State stuff.
I am no "tuck." I like the spirit of holding our people accountable and being realistic about our teams. (The nasty stuff about our players is unnecessary, though.)
That said, y'all need to stop the "Snyder sucks" crap. It simply isn't true. There is a long track record of him not sucking to go on. I agree that this doesn't mean to turn a blind eye to where things stand now and going forward, but four games is not near enough to turn your back on Snyder. We were Big 12 Champs last year. Y'all were wrong about the wisdom of hiring Snyder again. Get over it. Be happy. Hope that things continue to roll. It might be caving in around him (I doubt it), but there is no way in hell any of you could know that at this point in time. In any event, a couple average seasons is not going to ever make you right about the wisdom of hiring him four years ago, not when we just had a 15-3 stretch through conference. So just move on and hope for the best, and continue to evaluate. That doesn't make you a tuck. It makes you rational.
Second, your obsession with Sams is weird. I like the guy, too. He might be the answer. But nobody on here can possibly know that for sure. Really, y'all have fallen into the trap of believing that the back-up QB is always the best. You might not admit it, but this is actually very tuckish of you. So, quit it. I hope that one of these guys takes control and establishes himself as our starter. I still think that might happen, and that we could be pretty damn good by the end of this year. But, why commit yourself to one or the other, and then root against the other? Particularly considering how little any of us really know about the capabilities of Sams. (LOL at y'all pointing to spring games stats, too.)
I get the feeling that many of you would rather Waters (and Snyder) fail than succeed. That is warped...and stupid.
You had me at "quit it"
Thanks friend.
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Just kidding, go eff yourself.
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No. . . You quit it.
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10 of snyds 22 seasons have been mediocre to down right awful.
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is the real Steffy 08 a great guy or gal?
Über tuck
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I hope this is the real Steffy08 from GPC but I'm sure it isn't :blank:
It's me
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steffy, bill has dementia. he is not fit to coach a football team or even drive a car for that matter.
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I hope this is the real Steffy08 from GPC but I'm sure it isn't :blank:
It's me
You on team hoots or team dong?
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is the real Steffy 08 a great guy or gal?
Über tuck
Not at all. The tucks hated me on gopowercat. Besides being antiporn, i was also anti Krause, Wefald, and Prince way before everybody else. I also thought putting ourselves in a position where Martin was our best hiring option after Huggins was a terrible spot to find ourself. I was antituck over there, but yes I guess I will play the tuck role over here, when appropriate; like now.
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is the real Steffy 08 a great guy or gal?
Über tuck
Not at all. The tucks hated me on gopowercat. Besides being antiporn, i was also anti Krause, Wefald, and Prince way before everybody else. I also thought putting ourselves in a position where Martin was our best hiring option after Huggins was a terrible spot to find ourself. I was antituck over there, but yes I guess I will play the tuck role over here, when appropriate; like now.
are you aware that our coach has an ever worsening case of dementia?
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is the real Steffy 08 a great guy or gal?
Über tuck
Not at all. The tucks hated me on gopowercat. Besides being antiporn, i was also anti Krause, Wefald, and Prince way before everybody else. I also thought putting ourselves in a position where Martin was our best hiring option after Huggins was a terrible spot to find ourself. I was antituck over there, but yes I guess I will play the tuck role over here, when appropriate; like now.
Being anti-Frank post-Huggins makes you an obscene tuck. Doesn't get any worse than anti-GRCOAT. You're probably against ms paint rockets too.
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More Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than tuck, imo.
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You're probably against ms paint rockets too.
That's just un'Mercan.
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Why in the eff don't we have a tuck emoticon??
:cyclist: <---not good enough..
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Isn't it possible that maybe, just maybe, some people prefer an offensive system that heavily utilizes a running quarterback? I mean, our most successful teams were led by running quarterbacks. Our favorite teams were led by running quarterbacks. Maybe, as fans, we like running quarterbacks? I mean, Christ you tuck.
I agree; it is in Snyder's DNA to have a running QB. Crap, they can't even help falling into the same old habits with Waters, even when it is obvious Waters can't do it. So, we have learned that so far. Everybody is complaining that SAMs hasn't had the chance to pass, but I am more upset that we keep asking Waters to run.
So, right now we are forcing square peg in a round hole. We will get better; I have no doubt. But the solution might not involve SAMs. It might mean we air it out with Waters.
I am troubled by Snyder's quotes, too. I can't figure it out. But, in the past, Snyder has proven very pragmatic and willing to adapt. I have no reason to doubt they will figure out the best way to use these guys. Let the process play itself out (hopefully soon). No reason to turn on Snyder.
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No reason to turn on Snyder.
No reason other than losing games to crappy teams while crappy players like Waters and Roberts are in the starting lineup?
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Dimel sucks for not letting Sams throw...even Snyder agrees with this. Also TT.
This. Had to keep UT on their toes with #Life out there. Trying some play action wouldn't have hurt
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is the real Steffy 08 a great guy or gal?
Über tuck
Not at all. The tucks hated me on gopowercat. Besides being antiporn, i was also anti Krause, Wefald, and Prince way before everybody else. I also thought putting ourselves in a position where Martin was our best hiring option after Huggins was a terrible spot to find ourself. I was antituck over there, but yes I guess I will play the tuck role over here, when appropriate; like now.
Being anti-Frank post-Huggins makes you an obscene tuck. Doesn't get any worse than anti-GRCOAT. You're probably against ms paint rockets too.
Thinking that we were in a great position when had to hire Frank is just being stupid, regardless of what you label it. It worked out pretty good for us, though. Frank won us a lot of games.
I hated the Weber hire. Tough to argue with 14-4 though. Will see about the next couple of years. But, I digress.
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Dimel sucks for not letting Sams throw...even Snyder agrees with this. Also TT.
This. Had to keep UT on their toes with #Life out there. Trying some play action wouldn't have hurt
I wouldn't go with play action. Texas was sending too much heat for anything that needs time to develop. I would have just sent 2 receivers on fly routes and a third across the middle and then asked Sams to throw to the deepest open receiver.
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Isn't it possible that maybe, just maybe, some people prefer an offensive system that heavily utilizes a running quarterback? I mean, our most successful teams were led by running quarterbacks. Our favorite teams were led by running quarterbacks. Maybe, as fans, we like running quarterbacks? I mean, Christ you tuck.
I agree; it is in Snyder's DNA to have a running QB. Crap, they can't even help falling into the same old habits with Waters, even when it is obvious Waters can't do it. So, we have learned that so far. Everybody is complaining that SAMs hasn't had the chance to pass, but I am more upset that we keep asking Waters to run.
So, right now we are forcing square peg in a round hole. We will get better; I have no doubt. But the solution might not involve SAMs. It might mean we air it out with Waters.
I am troubled by Snyder's quotes, too. I can't figure it out. But, in the past, Snyder has proven very pragmatic and willing to adapt. I have no reason to doubt they will figure out the best way to use these guys. Let the process play itself out (hopefully soon). No reason to turn on Snyder.
Sean posting as steffy08?
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steffy, bill has dementia. he is not fit to coach a football team or even drive a car for that matter.
I hope you are wrong, but you can't know you are right. Not after 4 games and 1 play out of 100+ where he forgot who our qb was in the press conference. If he does, it will become painfully obvious. I doubt it though.
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steffy, bill has dementia. he is not fit to coach a football team or even drive a car for that matter.
I hope you are wrong, but you can't know you are right. Not after 4 games and 1 play out of 100+ where he forgot who our qb was in the press conference. If he does, it will become painfully obvious. I doubt it though.
it already is painfully obvious
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is the real Steffy 08 a great guy or gal?
Über tuck
Not at all. The tucks hated me on gopowercat. Besides being antiporn, i was also anti Krause, Wefald, and Prince way before everybody else. I also thought putting ourselves in a position where Martin was our best hiring option after Huggins was a terrible spot to find ourself. I was antituck over there, but yes I guess I will play the tuck role over here, when appropriate; like now.
Being anti-Frank post-Huggins makes you an obscene tuck. Doesn't get any worse than anti-GRCOAT. You're probably against ms paint rockets too.
Thinking that we were in a great position when had to hire Frank is just being stupid, regardless of what you label it. It worked out pretty good for us, though. Frank won us a lot of games.
I hated the Weber hire. Tough to argue with 14-4 though. Will see about the next couple of years. But, I digress.
If you were anti-Frank/GRCOAT and then anti-oscar then who could you possibly be for? Hiring Huggins and then keeping Frank were good moves, ballsy moves. Moves winners make. oscar was a dickless coward's move. A losing program's move. Who's in the middle? I can't imagine you were for Gottlieb, that's a Frank move. If not Frank then, then who? If not oscar now, then who?
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I can argue with 14-4 quite easily, actually.
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I can argue with 14-4 quite easily, actually.
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I can argue with 14-4 quite easily, actually.
we all could
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I always love the "I'm not a tuck, but..." and then they're always total tucks. I giggle at our fan base trying to deny their undying tuckishness
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I can argue with 14-4 quite easily, actually.
I'm gonna go get the papers,
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I can argue with 14-4 quite easily, actually.
get the papers.
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Isn't it possible that maybe, just maybe, some people prefer an offensive system that heavily utilizes a running quarterback? I mean, our most successful teams were led by running quarterbacks. Our favorite teams were led by running quarterbacks. Maybe, as fans, we like running quarterbacks? I mean, Christ you tuck.
I agree; it is in Snyder's DNA to have a running QB. Crap, they can't even help falling into the same old habits with Waters, even when it is obvious Waters can't do it. So, we have learned that so far. Everybody is complaining that SAMs hasn't had the chance to pass, but I am more upset that we keep asking Waters to run.
So, right now we are forcing square peg in a round hole. We will get better; I have no doubt. But the solution might not involve SAMs. It might mean we air it out with Waters.
I am troubled by Snyder's quotes, too. I can't figure it out. But, in the past, Snyder has proven very pragmatic and willing to adapt. I have no reason to doubt they will figure out the best way to use these guys. Let the process play itself out (hopefully soon). No reason to turn on Snyder.
Oh, so we're arguing literally the exact same point? Good. I'm glad we got that cleared up.
The only time Kansas State should have a pass-first offense is when we have a first round NFL draft pick playing Quarterback, and Jake ain't that.
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Steffy seems good for this blog
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I always love the "I'm not a tuck, but..." and then they're always total tucks. I giggle at our fan base trying to deny their undying tuckishness
"I'm not a racist, but...."
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Steffy08 just (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Femoticoner.com%2Ffiles%2Femoticons%2Fsmileys%2Fclown-smiley.gif%3F1292867571&hash=7b5c3b03e66ee1f05386d0ca7de1a6fd99fad2ea) you assholes.
Someone makes a Steffy sock, this dumbass rallies to the cause. :lol:
Yay, it's totally different to you and your long line of exuberant "He/She is so tuckish!" teet suckers you got on here. GMAFB.
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Steffy08 just (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Femoticoner.com%2Ffiles%2Femoticons%2Fsmileys%2Fclown-smiley.gif%3F1292867571&hash=7b5c3b03e66ee1f05386d0ca7de1a6fd99fad2ea) you assholes.
Someone makes a Steffy sock, this dumbass rallies to the cause. :lol:
Yay, it's totally different to you and your long line of exuberant "He/She is so tuckish!" teet suckers you got on here. GMAFB.
I never say "tuck". I think it's stupid. Also your face is.
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Isn't it possible that maybe, just maybe, some people prefer an offensive system that heavily utilizes a running quarterback? I mean, our most successful teams were led by running quarterbacks. Our favorite teams were led by running quarterbacks. Maybe, as fans, we like running quarterbacks? I mean, Christ you tuck.
I agree; it is in Snyder's DNA to have a running QB. Crap, they can't even help falling into the same old habits with Waters, even when it is obvious Waters can't do it. So, we have learned that so far. Everybody is complaining that SAMs hasn't had the chance to pass, but I am more upset that we keep asking Waters to run.
So, right now we are forcing square peg in a round hole. We will get better; I have no doubt. But the solution might not involve SAMs. It might mean we air it out with Waters.
I am troubled by Snyder's quotes, too. I can't figure it out. But, in the past, Snyder has proven very pragmatic and willing to adapt. I have no reason to doubt they will figure out the best way to use these guys. Let the process play itself out (hopefully soon). No reason to turn on Snyder.
Oh, so we're arguing literally the exact same point? Good. I'm glad we got that cleared up.
The only time Kansas State should have a pass-first offense is when we have a first round NFL draft pick playing Quarterback, and Jake ain't that.
I wouldn't say that is the only time K-State should run a pass-first offense, but it's definitely the only time LHC Bill Snyder should run a pass-first offense, and even then, if he has another QB like Bishop/Roberson/Sams, I want the running QB in the game.
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I hope this is the real Steffy08 from GPC but I'm sure it isn't :blank:
It's me
You on team hoots or team dong?
The only thing I care about in this thread is the answer to this question.
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I can argue with 14-4 quite easily, actually.
I'm gonna go get the papers,
Definitely
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I can argue with 14-4 quite easily, actually.
get the papers.
Definitely
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Steffy08 just (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Femoticoner.com%2Ffiles%2Femoticons%2Fsmileys%2Fclown-smiley.gif%3F1292867571&hash=7b5c3b03e66ee1f05386d0ca7de1a6fd99fad2ea) you assholes.
Someone makes a Steffy sock, this dumbass rallies to the cause. :lol:
Yay, it's totally different to you and your long line of exuberant "He/She is so tuckish!" teet suckers you got on here. GMAFB.
I never say "tuck". I think it's stupid. Also your face is.
Really? I had always thought you started the whole "Tuck talking point" bullshit. Welp sorry about that.
But as for my stupid face, your mother.
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Isn't it possible that maybe, just maybe, some people prefer an offensive system that heavily utilizes a running quarterback? I mean, our most successful teams were led by running quarterbacks. Our favorite teams were led by running quarterbacks. Maybe, as fans, we like running quarterbacks? I mean, Christ you tuck.
I agree; it is in Snyder's DNA to have a running QB. Crap, they can't even help falling into the same old habits with Waters, even when it is obvious Waters can't do it. So, we have learned that so far. Everybody is complaining that SAMs hasn't had the chance to pass, but I am more upset that we keep asking Waters to run.
So, right now we are forcing square peg in a round hole. We will get better; I have no doubt. But the solution might not involve SAMs. It might mean we air it out with Waters.
I am troubled by Snyder's quotes, too. I can't figure it out. But, in the past, Snyder has proven very pragmatic and willing to adapt. I have no reason to doubt they will figure out the best way to use these guys. Let the process play itself out (hopefully soon). No reason to turn on Snyder.
Oh, so we're arguing literally the exact same point? Good. I'm glad we got that cleared up.
The only time Kansas State should have a pass-first offense is when we have a first round NFL draft pick playing Quarterback, and Jake ain't that.
No, we aren't arguing the same point.
1. I am saying that even if Snyder hasn't figured this out yet, and even if he doesn't the entire season, it wouldn't be grounds to run him out. That is my primary point.
2. I agree that Snyder works best with a running QB. But, that depends on the quality of the running QB we have, and the quality of the other options you have. You say that we should use a running QB unless we have a first-round NFL draft pick playing quarterback; well, what if our running QB option was you, or me? Point being, you have to compare your options and find the best one. Sams might not be it. I hope he is, but you/I don't know that. The people who have the most information have thus far concluded that Waters gives us the best chance to win.
Do I wish that Sams had thrown more to this point? Yes. But, part of that is simply for my own purposes. Would it make you feel that much better if you found out that Sams can't make good decisions in the passing game? Yes. Is it worth us losing a winnable game just so you feel better? No.
This stuff will all work out. Until then, it is stupid to be overly critical of the staff when you have so little information to go on.
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I can argue with 14-4 quite easily, actually.
This proves my point that many of you would rather be proven right than to see a coach you don't like to have success. Hey, I agree with everybody: Currie is a weasel, and Weber was a horrible hire. That said, the guy went 14-4 last year in conference, and tied for the championship. If Weber continues to get those types of results, I would be thrilled to support him. Considering his track record, we should be careful going forward. But, you have to admit that 14-4 is a huge success.
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I can argue with 14-4 quite easily, actually.
This proves my point that many of you would rather be proven right than to see a coach you don't like to have success. Hey, I agree with everybody: Currie is a weasel, and Weber was a horrible hire. That said, the guy went 14-4 last year in conference, and tied for the championship. If Weber continues to get those types of results, I would be thrilled to support him. Considering his track record, we should be careful going forward. But, you have to admit that 14-4 is a huge success.
he won't continue to get those types of results.
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I can argue with 14-4 quite easily, actually.
This proves my point that many of you would rather be proven right than to see a coach you don't like to have success. Hey, I agree with everybody: Currie is a weasel, and Weber was a horrible hire. That said, the guy went 14-4 last year in conference, and tied for the championship. If Weber continues to get those types of results, I would be thrilled to support him. Considering his track record, we should be careful going forward. But, you have to admit that 14-4 is a huge success.
he won't continue to get those types of results.
Which is why you should be careful going forward. As a fan, be careful. Going forward. With oscar given his track record.
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I can argue with 14-4 quite easily, actually.
This proves my point that many of you would rather be proven right than to see a coach you don't like to have success. Hey, I agree with everybody: Currie is a weasel, and Weber was a horrible hire. That said, the guy went 14-4 last year in conference, and tied for the championship. If Weber continues to get those types of results, I would be thrilled to support him. Considering his track record, we should be careful going forward. But, you have to admit that 14-4 is a huge success.
So would I, and pretty much everybody here. This whole mindset of everyone at gE wants K-State to lose so they can be right is so flawed and beyond stupid it barely warrants a response. Here's the problem, Weber is not going to continue to get those results. That writing has been on the wall for a some time now.
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At this point, the staff is just too proud to make the switch. They will wait until next year and say that Sams improved tremendously in the off season. I am holding out a little hope that they try to pull this in the buy (I hung out with Wacky this last weekend :tongue:) week...if Snyder is quoted late this week as saying something like, "By and large, Daniel is improving every day and is putting in the effort," or "our practices have been very intense and there are a lot of youngsters showing some things that they haven't to this point," then there is a chance that maybe he starts Sams vs. OSU. He can then say, "Daniel has made tremendous improvements since the start of the season and especially since the week leading up to the Texas game, so he earned the opportunity." The <insert word = "tucks" here> will eat that crap up.
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well, what if our running QB option was you, or me?
Well, he wouldn't be much of a running QB, then, would he? JFC.
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I can argue with 14-4 quite easily, actually.
This proves my point that many of you would rather be proven right than to see a coach you don't like to have success. Hey, I agree with everybody: Currie is a weasel, and Weber was a horrible hire. That said, the guy went 14-4 last year in conference, and tied for the championship. If Weber continues to get those types of results, I would be thrilled to support him. Considering his track record, we should be careful going forward. But, you have to admit that 14-4 is a huge success.
It's still football season right?
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I can argue with 14-4 quite easily, actually.
This proves my point that many of you would rather be proven right than to see a coach you don't like to have success. Hey, I agree with everybody: Currie is a weasel, and Weber was a horrible hire. That said, the guy went 14-4 last year in conference, and tied for the championship. If Weber continues to get those types of results, I would be thrilled to support him. Considering his track record, we should be careful going forward. But, you have to admit that 14-4 is a huge success.
It's still football season right?
Everything going forward will deal with #burnitdown. It was the most recent major line in the sand.
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I always love the "I'm not a tuck, but..." and then they're always total tucks. I giggle at our fan base trying to deny their undying tuckishness
Like I said above, I will play the role of tuck on this board, when I think it is needed.
Here is what cracks me up. Everybody criticizes tucks for the uniform way in which they respond to a situation: As fans, with blind trust that the administrators of KSU will make the right decision. Everybody on here takes the opposite response: As shareholders who demand answers. But, it turns that everybody here is just as predictable and uniform in their thinking. "Burn it down!" "Run him out of town!" This board's thinking has just as much of a herd's mentality as the tuck's board. Which means both boards are going to frequently be wrong. This time, it is this board that is wrong in the reaction to our 2-2 start.
Also ironic: The tucks on gopowercat give more money and have more of a right to take the shareholder approach.
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You tell 'em steffy.
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Also ironic: The tucks on gopowercat give more money and have more of a right to take the shareholder approach.
Link?
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Also ironic: The tucks on gopowercat give more money and have more of a right to take the shareholder approach.
Link?
Virus
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At this point, the staff is just too proud to make the switch. They will wait until next year and say that Sams improved tremendously in the off season. I am holding out a little hope that they try to pull this in the buy (I hung out with Wacky this last weekend :tongue:) week...if Snyder is quoted late this week as saying something like, "By and large, Daniel is improving every day and is putting in the effort," or "our practices have been very intense and there are a lot of youngsters showing some things that they haven't to this point," then there is a chance that maybe he starts Sams vs. OSU. He can then say, "Daniel has made tremendous improvements since the start of the season and especially since the week leading up to the Texas game, so he earned the opportunity." The <insert word = "tucks" here> will eat that crap up.
The concern about the staff being wrong and refusing to admit it (my criticism of people on this board) is interesting, but I really don't think they will do that. Snyder has always proven to be very practical: do what works; keep doing it; when it doesn't, try something different. He has a huge ego in that he likes to win, but I don't think he has the type of ego that would rather lose games than admit he was wrong about something. I don't think it is staff's pride that is keeping Sams off the field. The coaches think that he doesn't give us the best chance to win. But, they will continue to evaluate and adjust. The adjustment, though, might mean Waters getting the majority of the snaps but running less. That is my prediction, but I would be beyond thrilled if Sams showed the ability to make decent decisions in the passing game (remembering that he is only a soph, and that he has so much upside in the QB run game).
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Half-tuck it like Beckham.
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Also ironic: The tucks on gopowercat give more money and have more of a right to take the shareholder approach.
Link?
He/she's talking to all the money they give to Fitz for the worst recruiting coverage in the Big 12.
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Also ironic: The tucks on gopowercat give more money and have more of a right to take the shareholder approach.
Link?
Yeah, let me get those demographic stats for you right away. I am sure they are easily accessible somewhere.
You know I am right, though. People who tuck their shirt in make more than the non-tuckers. Everybody knows it. Most people on this board will someday to grow up to be a tuck, too.
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data point: I make mad stacks and my brooks brothers non-iron is currently tucked in.
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Yeah, let me get those demographic stats for you right away. I am sure they are easily accessible somewhere.
You know I am right, though. People who tuck their shirt in make more than the non-tuckers. Everybody knows it. Most people on this board will someday to grow up to be a tuck, too.
No, no you are not.
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Also ironic: The tucks on gopowercat give more money and have more of a right to take the shareholder approach.
Link?
Yeah, let me get those demographic stats for you right away. I am sure they are easily accessible somewhere.
You know I am right, though. People who tuck their shirt in make more than the non-tuckers. Everybody knows it. Most people on this board will someday to grow up to be a tuck, too.
Dumbasses with no critical thinking ability usually make less money. Not always, but usually.
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OMG, this is the poor board!? Gross.
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OMG, this is the poor board!? Gross.
Mowing those lawns just doesn't pay for crap....ask oscar.
One day, when we all graduate high school and get out in the real world with the ability to put in 40 hours/wk at the local GM plant, we can work our way up for 20 years and get to a point where we are making $75-80 THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR!!!! Then what? THIS BOARD WON'T BE THE POOR BOARD THEN!! :curse: :curse:
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Also ironic: The tucks on gopowercat give more money and have more of a right to take the shareholder approach.
Link?
Yeah, let me get those demographic stats for you right away. I am sure they are easily accessible somewhere.
You know I am right, though. People who tuck their shirt in make more than the non-tuckers. Everybody knows it. Most people on this board will someday to grow up to be a tuck, too.
we're young and poor? what a terrible way to go through life. i feel sorry for us.
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At this point, the staff is just too proud to make the switch. They will wait until next year and say that Sams improved tremendously in the off season. I am holding out a little hope that they try to pull this in the buy (I hung out with Wacky this last weekend :tongue:) week...if Snyder is quoted late this week as saying something like, "By and large, Daniel is improving every day and is putting in the effort," or "our practices have been very intense and there are a lot of youngsters showing some things that they haven't to this point," then there is a chance that maybe he starts Sams vs. OSU. He can then say, "Daniel has made tremendous improvements since the start of the season and especially since the week leading up to the Texas game, so he earned the opportunity." The <insert word = "tucks" here> will eat that crap up.
The concern about the staff being wrong and refusing to admit it (my criticism of people on this board) is interesting, but I really don't think they will do that. Snyder has always proven to be very practical: do what works; keep doing it; when it doesn't, try something different. He has a huge ego in that he likes to win, but I don't think he has the type of ego that would rather lose games than admit he was wrong about something. I don't think it is staff's pride that is keeping Sams off the field. The coaches think that he doesn't give us the best chance to win. But, they will continue to evaluate and adjust. The adjustment, though, might mean Waters getting the majority of the snaps but running less. That is my prediction, but I would be beyond thrilled if Sams showed the ability to make decent decisions in the passing game (remembering that he is only a soph, and that he has so much upside in the QB run game).
I think there is some separation from the coach's opinions regarding Sams, and it's not just evident from the Snyder press conference.
Directly from someone who's on the headsets during the games (A+ source)... We lost the Texas game because Dimel won't let Sams throw. Snyder is a big fan of Sams, throwing and running, but he doesn't really make too many decisions on the personnel or play calling anymore. I would expect that to change soon.
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At this point, the staff is just too proud to make the switch. They will wait until next year and say that Sams improved tremendously in the off season. I am holding out a little hope that they try to pull this in the buy (I hung out with Wacky this last weekend :tongue:) week...if Snyder is quoted late this week as saying something like, "By and large, Daniel is improving every day and is putting in the effort," or "our practices have been very intense and there are a lot of youngsters showing some things that they haven't to this point," then there is a chance that maybe he starts Sams vs. OSU. He can then say, "Daniel has made tremendous improvements since the start of the season and especially since the week leading up to the Texas game, so he earned the opportunity." The <insert word = "tucks" here> will eat that crap up.
The concern about the staff being wrong and refusing to admit it (my criticism of people on this board) is interesting, but I really don't think they will do that. Snyder has always proven to be very practical: do what works; keep doing it; when it doesn't, try something different. He has a huge ego in that he likes to win, but I don't think he has the type of ego that would rather lose games than admit he was wrong about something. I don't think it is staff's pride that is keeping Sams off the field. The coaches think that he doesn't give us the best chance to win. But, they will continue to evaluate and adjust. The adjustment, though, might mean Waters getting the majority of the snaps but running less. That is my prediction, but I would be beyond thrilled if Sams showed the ability to make decent decisions in the passing game (remembering that he is only a soph, and that he has so much upside in the QB run game).
I think there is some separation from the coach's opinions regarding Sams, and it's not just evident from the Snyder press conference.
Directly from someone who's on the headsets during the games (A+ source)... We lost the Texas game because Dimel won't let Sams throw. Snyder is a big fan of Sams, throwing and running, but he doesn't really make too many decisions on the personnel or play calling anymore. I would expect that to change soon.
eff Dimel then....
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At this point, the staff is just too proud to make the switch. They will wait until next year and say that Sams improved tremendously in the off season. I am holding out a little hope that they try to pull this in the buy (I hung out with Wacky this last weekend :tongue:) week...if Snyder is quoted late this week as saying something like, "By and large, Daniel is improving every day and is putting in the effort," or "our practices have been very intense and there are a lot of youngsters showing some things that they haven't to this point," then there is a chance that maybe he starts Sams vs. OSU. He can then say, "Daniel has made tremendous improvements since the start of the season and especially since the week leading up to the Texas game, so he earned the opportunity." The <insert word = "tucks" here> will eat that crap up.
The concern about the staff being wrong and refusing to admit it (my criticism of people on this board) is interesting, but I really don't think they will do that. Snyder has always proven to be very practical: do what works; keep doing it; when it doesn't, try something different. He has a huge ego in that he likes to win, but I don't think he has the type of ego that would rather lose games than admit he was wrong about something. I don't think it is staff's pride that is keeping Sams off the field. The coaches think that he doesn't give us the best chance to win. But, they will continue to evaluate and adjust. The adjustment, though, might mean Waters getting the majority of the snaps but running less. That is my prediction, but I would be beyond thrilled if Sams showed the ability to make decent decisions in the passing game (remembering that he is only a soph, and that he has so much upside in the QB run game).
I think there is some separation from the coach's opinions regarding Sams, and it's not just evident from the Snyder press conference.
Directly from someone who's on the headsets during the games (A+ source)... We lost the Texas game because Dimel won't let Sams throw. Snyder is a big fan of Sams, throwing and running, but he doesn't really make too many decisions on the personnel or play calling anymore. I would expect that to change soon.
eff Dimel then....
Yeah!
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At this point, the staff is just too proud to make the switch. They will wait until next year and say that Sams improved tremendously in the off season. I am holding out a little hope that they try to pull this in the buy (I hung out with Wacky this last weekend :tongue:) week...if Snyder is quoted late this week as saying something like, "By and large, Daniel is improving every day and is putting in the effort," or "our practices have been very intense and there are a lot of youngsters showing some things that they haven't to this point," then there is a chance that maybe he starts Sams vs. OSU. He can then say, "Daniel has made tremendous improvements since the start of the season and especially since the week leading up to the Texas game, so he earned the opportunity." The <insert word = "tucks" here> will eat that crap up.
The concern about the staff being wrong and refusing to admit it (my criticism of people on this board) is interesting, but I really don't think they will do that. Snyder has always proven to be very practical: do what works; keep doing it; when it doesn't, try something different. He has a huge ego in that he likes to win, but I don't think he has the type of ego that would rather lose games than admit he was wrong about something. I don't think it is staff's pride that is keeping Sams off the field. The coaches think that he doesn't give us the best chance to win. But, they will continue to evaluate and adjust. The adjustment, though, might mean Waters getting the majority of the snaps but running less. That is my prediction, but I would be beyond thrilled if Sams showed the ability to make decent decisions in the passing game (remembering that he is only a soph, and that he has so much upside in the QB run game).
I think there is some separation from the coach's opinions regarding Sams, and it's not just evident from the Snyder press conference.
Directly from someone who's on the headsets during the games (A+ source)... We lost the Texas game because Dimel won't let Sams throw. Snyder is a big fan of Sams, throwing and running, but he doesn't really make too many decisions on the personnel or play calling anymore. I would expect that to change soon.
eff Dimel then....
Yeah!
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Are you guys sure it wasn't Miller who refuses to let Sams pass? Everything I've heard prior to this points to Del as the culprit. If Dana doesn't like Sams either, then I guess it's time to clean house upstairs.
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A+ Source said Dimel. I am sure it's both.
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:curse:
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Something to ponder... We have never had a black starting QB when Dimel was\is the OC...
:horrorsurprise: :opcat:
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The assistants refusing to let SAMs throw is a very plausible explanation to me, considering Snyd's quotes. It will get fixed though. Give Snyder some time. Still a very good situation once we figure how to use both these guys.
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I always love the "I'm not a tuck, but..." and then they're always total tucks. I giggle at our fan base trying to deny their undying tuckishness
Like I said above, I will play the role of tuck on this board, when I think it is needed.
Here is what cracks me up. Everybody criticizes tucks for the uniform way in which they respond to a situation: As fans, with blind trust that the administrators of KSU will make the right decision. Everybody on here takes the opposite response: As shareholders who demand answers. But, it turns that everybody here is just as predictable and uniform in their thinking. "Burn it down!" "Run him out of town!" This board's thinking has just as much of a herd's mentality as the tuck's board. Which means both boards are going to frequently be wrong. This time, it is this board that is wrong in the reaction to our 2-2 start.
Also ironic: The tucks on gopowercat give more money and have more of a right to take the shareholder approach.
Also ironic: The tucks on gopowercat give more money and have more of a right to take the shareholder approach.
Link?
Yeah, let me get those demographic stats for you right away. I am sure they are easily accessible somewhere.
You know I am right, though. People who tuck their shirt in make more than the non-tuckers. Everybody knows it. Most people on this board will someday to grow up to be a tuck, too.
This is so beautiful. Nearly every tuck talking point about gE summed up into one. From young and poor to being a mob of angry people who want to fire everyone. Someone link this to the baylor fan thread asking what a "tuck" is.
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gE goes to more games and gives more $$ per capita than GPC. Hell, the big shot lawyer on gpc makes pledges to charities and then stiffs them.
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gE goes to more games and gives more $$ per capita than GPC. Hell, the big shot lawyer on gpc makes pledges to charities and then stiffs them.
Is he the same one who takes upskirt photos of his employees?
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gE goes to more games and gives more $$ per capita than GPC. Hell, the big shot lawyer on gpc makes pledges to charities and then stiffs them.
Is he the same one who takes upskirt photos of his employees?
No. Not that kind of lawyer
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Why do tucks type "SAMs" instead of Sams. I've only seen that on GPC and the brown belts who post here. Do people not know the man's name is Daniel Sams? Is this related to Sambo?
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gE goes to more games and gives more $$ per capita than GPC. Hell, the big shot lawyer on gpc makes pledges to charities and then stiffs them.
:horrorsurprise:
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I am holding out a little hope that they try to pull this in the buy (I hung out with Wacky this last weekend :tongue:)
:D
:lol:
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Here is what cracks me up. Everybody criticizes tucks for the uniform way in which they respond to a situation: As fans, with blind trust that the administrators of KSU will make the right decision. Everybody on here takes the opposite response: As shareholders who demand answers. But, it turns that everybody here is just as predictable and uniform in their thinking. "Burn it down!" "Run him out of town!" This board's thinking has just as much of a herd's mentality as the tuck's board. Which means both boards are going to frequently be wrong. This time, it is this board that is wrong in the reaction to our 2-2 start.
I'm not 100% sure you understand how a message board works.
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Why do tucks type "SAMs" instead of Sams. I've only seen that on GPC and the brown belts who post here. Do people not know the man's name is Daniel Sams? Is this related to Sambo?
My phone/ipad used to autocorrect it to SAMs FWIW.
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Why do tucks type "SAMs" instead of Sams. I've only seen that on GPC and the brown belts who post here. Do people not know the man's name is Daniel Sams? Is this related to Sambo?
My phone/ipad used to autocorrect it to SAMs FWIW.
mine does too
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Why do tucks type "SAMs" instead of Sams. I've only seen that on GPC and the brown belts who post here. Do people not know the man's name is Daniel Sams? Is this related to Sambo?
Easy, MIR. SAM = Surface to Air Missile.
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OMG, this is the poor board!? Gross.
Mowing those lawns just doesn't pay for crap....ask oscar.
One day, when we all graduate high school and get out in the real world with the ability to put in 40 hours/wk at the local GM plant, we can work our way up for 20 years and get to a point where we are making $75-80 THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR!!!! Then what? THIS BOARD WON'T BE THE POOR BOARD THEN!! :curse: :curse:
My mom doesn't charge me rent for the basement so I actually have a much higher percent of disposable income than most people.
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OMG, this is the poor board!? Gross.
Mowing those lawns just doesn't pay for crap....ask oscar.
One day, when we all graduate high school and get out in the real world with the ability to put in 40 hours/wk at the local GM plant, we can work our way up for 20 years and get to a point where we are making $75-80 THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR!!!! Then what? THIS BOARD WON'T BE THE POOR BOARD THEN!! :curse: :curse:
My mom doesn't charge me rent for the basement so I actually have a much higher percent of disposable income than most people.
Fortunately, the US gov pays my (basement) rent in Egypt and also picks up the tab for my hotel here in DC, so I guess I'm in the same boat.
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The board of the K-State poors. :lol: Cya later rubes I'm going to GoPo with all the rich guys high fivin' oscar and Sprads.
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Also ironic: The tucks on gopowercat give more money and have more of a right to take the shareholder approach.
Link?
Yeah, let me get those demographic stats for you right away. I am sure they are easily accessible somewhere.
You know I am right, though. People who tuck their shirt in make more than the non-tuckers. Everybody knows it.
Link?
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tucking your tshirt into your jeans to watch a football game is not the same as tucking your brooks brothers non iron into your slacks to chop some heads in the board room
however
suspenders do directly correlate with success and wealth
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I hope this is the real Steffy08 from GPC but I'm sure it isn't :blank:
You would...