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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: kso_FAN on September 21, 2013, 11:05:04 PM
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The QB thing is over. This is Waters' team and Sams either needs to switch positions or transfer. Bill simply doesn't trust him to run his offense.
Defense has the same issues and can't get off the field. One corner in particular, but just a lack of play making in the front 7.
I really like Lockett and Hubert. Both laid it on the line tonight.
Experience loss is so huge for Snyder because talent has to be developed with our recruiting. This is obviously a development year, and Bill will get that, but next year has to be 9 wins or more.
I still hate check with me offense. No flow or rhythm.
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:frown:
didn't read after the first paragraph, this season is dead to me
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The QB thing is over. This is Waters' team and Sams either needs to switch positions or transfer. Bill simply doesn't trust him to run his offense.
:Crybaby:
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Since OB won't let him change positions, I guess we're looking at a transfer.
Hopefully he looks as happy as Angel in his picture
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The QB thing is over. This is Waters' team and Sams either needs to switch positions or transfer. Bill simply doesn't trust him to run his offense.
Defense has the same issues and can't get off the field. One corner in particular, but just a lack of play making in the front 7.
I really like Lockett and Hubert. Both laid it on the line tonight.
Experience loss is so huge for Snyder because talent has to be developed with our recruiting. This is obviously a development year, and Bill will get that, but next year has to be 9 wins or more.
I still hate check with me offense. No flow or rhythm.
Any insight on why he doesn't trust him, yet allows Waters to turn it over at will?
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i'm gonna pick a new team or just completely devote myself to my fantasy teams and forget that college ball ever even existed
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:frown:
didn't read after the first paragraph, this season is dead to me
Tonight it's clear Sams is a spot player at best. Snyder and his staff don't think they can win with him as "the guy", so it's ultimately on them.
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Waters gets every opportunity to run but Sams isn't allowed to throw. What a joke
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The QB thing is over. This is Waters' team and Sams either needs to switch positions or transfer. Bill simply doesn't trust him to run his offense.
I refuse to believe this. I mean, how can this be? Waters is a turnover machine. I just don't get it. None of it makes any sense.
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i'd say the qb thing is irrelevant. to the uneducated eye, the team sucks at like 22 of 22 positions.
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If its a developmental year, you play the younger QB if its close.
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The QB thing is over. This is Waters' team and Sams either needs to switch positions or transfer. Bill simply doesn't trust him to run his offense.
Defense has the same issues and can't get off the field. One corner in particular, but just a lack of play making in the front 7.
I really like Lockett and Hubert. Both laid it on the line tonight.
Experience loss is so huge for Snyder because talent has to be developed with our recruiting. This is obviously a development year, and Bill will get that, but next year has to be 9 wins or more.
I still hate check with me offense. No flow or rhythm.
Any insight on why he doesn't trust him, yet allows Waters to turn it over at will?
No idea. It probably has something to do with the hours of practice they've watched. It's their job to make the right decisions with players and if they don't it's their responsibility.
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Reed played well
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airplane banner time
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Bill doesn't trust Daniel because he was was born in the 30s in the south.
Daniel threw for 3500 yards in the spring game.
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Someone on twitter brought up a good point - Waters' shitty play keeps Sams from getting reps. It has all year, including the first half tonight leading to no Sams in the second.
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The QB thing is over. This is Waters' team and Sams either needs to switch positions or transfer. Bill simply doesn't trust him to run his offense.
Defense has the same issues and can't get off the field. One corner in particular, but just a lack of play making in the front 7.
I really like Lockett and Hubert. Both laid it on the line tonight.
Experience loss is so huge for Snyder because talent has to be developed with our recruiting. This is obviously a development year, and Bill will get that, but next year has to be 9 wins or more.
I still hate check with me offense. No flow or rhythm.
Any insight on why he doesn't trust him, yet allows Waters to turn it over at will?
No idea. It probably has something to do with the hours of practice they've watched. It's their job to make the right decisions with players and if they don't it's their responsibility.
If there's one thing I'm certain of, it's this staff's ability to make the correct decisions this year.
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Bill doesn't trust Daniel because he was was born in the 30s in the south.
Daniel threw for 3500 yards in the spring game.
:cheers:
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No, god damn it fan this is bullshit and sams is our guy period. I can't emphasize the period enough, like it's like a huge period!
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Why don't they let Sams pass? Is he really that horrible?
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The QB thing is over. This is Waters' team and Sams either needs to switch positions or transfer. Bill simply doesn't trust him to run his offense.
Defense has the same issues and can't get off the field. One corner in particular, but just a lack of play making in the front 7.
I really like Lockett and Hubert. Both laid it on the line tonight.
Experience loss is so huge for Snyder because talent has to be developed with our recruiting. This is obviously a development year, and Bill will get that, but next year has to be 9 wins or more.
I still hate check with me offense. No flow or rhythm.
Good points. I, too, dislike the "check with me" and remember when it wasn't part of Bill's system. However, I'm not convinced quite yet that Bill has settled on Waters. Jake had some real problems at critical points tonight.
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Sams gets 8 carries to Waters 18
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I completely disagree
there is no reason to not start Sams and see if we get down enough that we need Waters to throw to Lockett every down. The way Waters stares him down I know Sams can make the same reads and I believe Sams has the arm to make the throws.
The next DC will of been on the job for more than 10 days and will have more than just man up and blitz on passing downs.
The ceiling Sams has is so much higher and he has at least 6 tos to prove him self. The good thing is there will be plenty of possessions with not much on the line in the next few games
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Sams gets 8 carries to Waters 18
Sams also had 48 yards despite having to run the same play 8 times.
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Since OB won't let him change positions, I guess we're looking at a transfer.
Hopefully he looks as happy as Angel in his picture
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This picture makes me so incredibly sad. Even in light of tonight's events.
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If Waters is the guy, then bill has wasted 4 games because he knew from day rough ridin' on that they wouldn't let sams throw. It is just about the stupidest rough ridin' decision I have ever seen. They let him throw last year against OSU in crucial rough ridin' moments. I don't have words for how irresponsible and rough ridin' stupid it is to not let sams throw.
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Either Snyder knows SAMs throwing is that bad or Snyder is just snydering about SAMs missing practice or whatever. Either way after the spring game it makes no sense to not see what SAMs can do in a game when they actually let him throw
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I am as disappointed as I knew I would be before this game. It would be worse but I'm restrained by realizing that Bill truly IS losing it. Holy crap. What a sad day for KSU football. :-(
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One corner in particular, but just a lack of play making in the front 7.
Roberts should be picked on every down :Crybaby:
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pete got me so excited, when Sams committed. I remember it like yesterday. I guess I shouldn't have become so attached.
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:cry:
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I completely disagree
there is no reason to not start Sams and see if we get down enough that we need Waters to throw to Lockett every down. The way Waters stares him down I know Sams can make the same reads and I believe Sams has the arm to make the throws.
The next DC will of been on the job for more than 10 days and will have more than just man up and blitz on passing downs.
The ceiling Sams has is so much higher and he has at least 6 tos to prove him self. The good thing is there will be plenty of possessions with not much on the line in the next few games
You can disagree all you want, I'm going off of what I see; right now this staff does not trust Daniel Sams to be their quarterback. I don't think we're in the same situation as Dunn/Roberson. Sams has been here 2 full seasons, 1 full season as a back up and clearly by his PT tonight he isn't even close to Waters in the minds of the coaching staff. He didn't get one snap in the 2nd half. Not one.
To me it goes back to recruiting, again its on the coaching staff. Either they misread his abilities, or had enough ego to think they would develop him to fit Snyder's system. Keep in mind, Sams was never a full time QB in high school. Even his senior year he split time between QB, RB, and WR. So the staff had to see a player they thought could become a full time QB and they simply never did enough to develop him.
At this point he's already on record as saying he would switch positions. If Waters is the guy, this absolutely needs to happen immediately. Sams as a 3rd receiver with Lockett and Thompson makes much more sense than Sams on the bench. As the QB, he should already know the reads and routes of our receivers, granted his technique would be lacking. However, at this point a transfer is probably just as likely.
Its a frustrating situation and every loss will only make it more so. And this position will continue to be magnified, but clearly there are numerous other holes on this team. Snyder did a great job rebuilding for the previous 2 years, but right now the immediate future and long term look pretty questionable, and not just at quarterback.
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If Waters is the guy, then bill has wasted 4 games because he knew from day rough ridin' on that they wouldn't let sams throw. It is just about the stupidest rough ridin' decision I have ever seen. They let him throw last year against OSU in crucial rough ridin' moments. I don't have words for how irresponsible and rough ridin' stupid it is to not let sams throw.
Yes, it was dumb, and Sams should've been moved to another position for the future, even if we had no back up options. Cross the bridge of what to do if Waters got hurt and address your poor QB recruiting depth then.
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Reed played well
Agree to disagree, he had one good play, we had no push at all and that's on him more than anyone else
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_Fan, how big of an impact did Harper/Brown have on covering up this staff's terrible recruiting? Obviously they weren't coaching up anyone behind Brown and we don't have anyone that comes close to resembling a possession receiver.
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Why don't they let Sams pass? Is he really that horrible?
I love Dsams and his love for the team but I have heard that as a true freshman on the scout squad he would occasionally throw more interceptions than completed passes. He came from a highschool that didn't run set/refined plays on offense. Pretty much just line up and go.
This comes from a player that graduated in 2011.
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Sams will get his start, at some point Waters won't be able to turn turtle in time on a draw or option and it will be out of the coaching staff's hands. I would not be surprised if Phil Bennett did this program one more favor.
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I completely disagree
there is no reason to not start Sams and see if we get down enough that we need Waters to throw to Lockett every down. The way Waters stares him down I know Sams can make the same reads and I believe Sams has the arm to make the throws.
The next DC will of been on the job for more than 10 days and will have more than just man up and blitz on passing downs.
The ceiling Sams has is so much higher and he has at least 6 tos to prove him self. The good thing is there will be plenty of possessions with not much on the line in the next few games
You can disagree all you want, I'm going off of what I see; right now this staff does not trust Daniel Sams to be their quarterback. I don't think we're in the same situation as Dunn/Roberson. Sams has been here 2 full seasons, 1 full season as a back up and clearly by his PT tonight he isn't even close to Waters in the minds of the coaching staff. He didn't get one snap in the 2nd half. Not one.
To me it goes back to recruiting, again its on the coaching staff. Either they misread his abilities, or had enough ego to think they would develop him to fit Snyder's system. Keep in mind, Sams was never a full time QB in high school. Even his senior year he split time between QB, RB, and WR. So the staff had to see a player they thought could become a full time QB and they simply never did enough to develop him.
At this point he's already on record as saying he would switch positions. If Waters is the guy, this absolutely needs to happen immediately. Sams as a 3rd receiver with Lockett and Thompson makes much more sense than Sams on the bench. As the QB, he should already know the reads and routes of our receivers, granted his technique would be lacking. However, at this point a transfer is probably just as likely.
Its a frustrating situation and every loss will only make it more so. And this position will continue to be magnified, but clearly there are numerous other holes on this team. Snyder did a great job rebuilding for the previous 2 years, but right now the immediate future and long term look pretty questionable, and not just at quarterback.
You say this but once again Snyder, in his post game press conference, whined about how Sams was used. It would suck but I would feel better about this situation and your take if he just came out and gave the job to Waters, he refuses to do so and its a huge issue.
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_Fan, how big of an impact did Harper/Brown have on covering up this staff's terrible recruiting? Obviously they weren't coaching up anyone behind Brown and we don't have anyone that comes close to resembling a possession receiver.
The combination of them and Klein's development was really big.
All of our receivers are tiny (another reason to move Sams to receiver if we aren't willing to play him at QB).
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Why don't they let Sams pass? Is he really that horrible?
I love Dsams and his love for the team but I have heard that as a true freshman on the scout squad he would occasionally throw more interceptions than completed passes. He came from a highschool that didn't run set/refined plays on offense. Pretty much just line up and go.
This comes from a player that graduated in 2011.
Everyone on this board seems to think he is rough ridin' Brett Favre in the pocket.
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You say this but once again Snyder, in his post game press conference, whined about how Sams was used. It would suck but I would feel better about this situation and your take if he just came out and gave the job to Waters, he refuses to do so and its a huge issue.
Its extremely frustrating. But to me the actions of Snyder (or Dimel/Miller) are speaking much louder than whatever he is saying in post game press conferences about Sams. At some point the fact that the kid isn't playing says a lot to me.
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If Waters is the guy, then bill has wasted 4 games because he knew from day rough ridin' on that they wouldn't let sams throw. It is just about the stupidest rough ridin' decision I have ever seen. They let him throw last year against OSU in crucial rough ridin' moments. I don't have words for how irresponsible and rough ridin' stupid it is to not let sams throw.
Yes, it was dumb, and Sams should've been moved to another position for the future, even if we had no back up options. Cross the bridge of what to do if Waters got hurt and address your poor QB recruiting depth then.
You know damn well sams won't be moved. This is so rough ridin' stupid by bill. We are mumped as a program because there is no rough ridin' way Ertzis anything more than Waters. Sams HAS to be a QB. And what Juco dual threat guy is going to come here for next year? None. So mumped as a program.
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I think Snyder is more Paterno/Bowden than we think.
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Why don't they let Sams pass? Is he really that horrible?
I love Dsams and his love for the team but I have heard that as a true freshman on the scout squad he would occasionally throw more interceptions than completed passes. He came from a highschool that didn't run set/refined plays on offense. Pretty much just line up and go.
This comes from a player that graduated in 2011.
So, basically, he was a lot like Waters as a true freshman?
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Sean should let SAMs play more.
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I think Snyder is more Paterno/Bowden than we think.
I hope the final end to his tenure here is as shameful and terrible as possible.
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I think Snyder is more Paterno/Bowden than we think.
I hope the final end to his tenure here is as shameful and terrible as possible.
I don't. I just hope he realizes when its over and gets out. And doesn't insist his son be head coach.
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You say this but once again Snyder, in his post game press conference, whined about how Sams was used. It would suck but I would feel better about this situation and your take if he just came out and gave the job to Waters, he refuses to do so and its a huge issue.
Its extremely frustrating. But to me the actions of Snyder (or Dimel/Miller) are speaking much louder than whatever he is saying in post game press conferences about Sams. At some point the fact that the kid isn't playing says a lot to me.
Me too, I said last week there isn't a quarterback competition. It doesn't seem obvious to me that the coaches are as sure as you and I.
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You say this but once again Snyder, in his post game press conference, whined about how Sams was used. It would suck but I would feel better about this situation and your take if he just came out and gave the job to Waters, he refuses to do so and its a huge issue.
Its extremely frustrating. But to me the actions of Snyder (or Dimel/Miller) are speaking much louder than whatever he is saying in post game press conferences about Sams. At some point the fact that the kid isn't playing says a lot to me.
Me too, I said last week there isn't a quarterback competition. It doesn't seem obvious to me that the coaches are as sure as you and I.
Or Snyder is naive (or arrogant) enough to think if he keeps up some sort of competition facade that it will make some sort of difference in defenses preparing for us. Unfortunately I think he is naive enough for this to be true.
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Why don't they let Sams pass? Is he really that horrible?
I love Dsams and his love for the team but I have heard that as a true freshman on the scout squad he would occasionally throw more interceptions than completed passes. He came from a highschool that didn't run set/refined plays on offense. Pretty much just line up and go.
This comes from a player that graduated in 2011.
Everyone on this board seems to think he is rough ridin' Brett Favre in the pocket.
No one has said crap about Sams is the pocket, you moron. No one wants him in the pocket, rough ridin' idiot. Can you stupid asses enlighten us to what the turnover count is this season, 2013 not 2011 during scout team play, between the two QBs?
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No one has said crap about Sams is the pocket, you moron. No one wants him in the pocket, rough ridin' idiot. Can you stupid asses enlighten us to what the turnover count is this season, 2013 not 2011 during scout team play, between the two QBs?
A lot to not very much. (though there was a drop in INT%!)
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The truly disappointing thing is that Sams hasn't even been given the opportunity to fail. Meanwhile we're going to get more of Waters who is now 2-2 as a starter with 5 TDs and 7 turnovers in four games.
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Considering McDonald is worthless and can't block worth a crap, I think we should have them both back there ready to take the snap.
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No one has said crap about Sams is the pocket, you moron. No one wants him in the pocket, rough ridin' idiot. Can you stupid asses enlighten us to what the turnover count is this season, 2013 not 2011 during scout team play, between the two QBs?
A lot to not very much. (though there was a drop in INT%!)
That's an understatement. Sams is infinitely better, and that is honest math.
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I completely disagree
there is no reason to not start Sams and see if we get down enough that we need Waters to throw to Lockett every down. The way Waters stares him down I know Sams can make the same reads and I believe Sams has the arm to make the throws.
The next DC will of been on the job for more than 10 days and will have more than just man up and blitz on passing downs.
The ceiling Sams has is so much higher and he has at least 6 tos to prove him self. The good thing is there will be plenty of possessions with not much on the line in the next few games
You can disagree all you want, I'm going off of what I see; right now this staff does not trust Daniel Sams to be their quarterback. I don't think we're in the same situation as Dunn/Roberson. Sams has been here 2 full seasons, 1 full season as a back up and clearly by his PT tonight he isn't even close to Waters in the minds of the coaching staff. He didn't get one snap in the 2nd half. Not one.
To me it goes back to recruiting, again its on the coaching staff. Either they misread his abilities, or had enough ego to think they would develop him to fit Snyder's system. Keep in mind, Sams was never a full time QB in high school. Even his senior year he split time between QB, RB, and WR. So the staff had to see a player they thought could become a full time QB and they simply never did enough to develop him.
At this point he's already on record as saying he would switch positions. If Waters is the guy, this absolutely needs to happen immediately. Sams as a 3rd receiver with Lockett and Thompson makes much more sense than Sams on the bench. As the QB, he should already know the reads and routes of our receivers, granted his technique would be lacking. However, at this point a transfer is probably just as likely.
Its a frustrating situation and every loss will only make it more so. And this position will continue to be magnified, but clearly there are numerous other holes on this team. Snyder did a great job rebuilding for the previous 2 years, but right now the immediate future and long term look pretty questionable, and not just at quarterback.
You say this but once again Snyder, in his post game press conference, whined about how Sams was used. It would suck but I would feel better about this situation and your take if he just came out and gave the job to Waters, he refuses to do so and its a huge issue.
yeah eff this. the more he bitches about not using Sams correctly the more pissed I get at him. THAT'S YOUR JOB TO FIX, DUMBASS! you don't get brownie points for constantly pointing out your stupid rough ridin' decisions...especially when continue to make them every. single. rough ridin'. game.
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If Waters is the guy, then bill has wasted 4 games because he knew from day rough ridin' on that they wouldn't let sams throw. It is just about the stupidest rough ridin' decision I have ever seen. They let him throw last year against OSU in crucial rough ridin' moments. I don't have words for how irresponsible and rough ridin' stupid it is to not let sams throw.
Yes, it was dumb, and Sams should've been moved to another position for the future, even if we had no back up options. Cross the bridge of what to do if Waters got hurt and address your poor QB recruiting depth then.
I agree that Sams should be a bigger part of the offense. If Bill insists that Jake is the QB, he needs to find a regular place for Sams...RB, WR. If Jake gets hurt, Sams becomes the QB. Simple as that, just as if Jake is the starting QB and Sams is the backup but riding the pine, and Jake gets hurt. Then Sams is the QB.
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You guys remember when Colin sat for a year behind Carson Coffman? He can be kind of a dumbass sometimes.
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If I were going to move Sams to another position, I would move him to corner and hope that the other team thinks he is Roberts. I mean he has the same number and everything.
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but hey, I thought waters played fairly well with the exception of the 37 fumbles and not having 2 functional legs to run on.
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You guys remember when Colin sat for a year behind Carson Coffman? He can be kind of a dumbass sometimes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot70Ge-Bito
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Why don't they let Sams pass? Is he really that horrible?
I love Dsams and his love for the team but I have heard that as a true freshman on the scout squad he would occasionally throw more interceptions than completed passes. He came from a highschool that didn't run set/refined plays on offense. Pretty much just line up and go.
This comes from a player that graduated in 2011.
Everyone on this board seems to think he is rough ridin' Brett Favre in the pocket.
No one has said crap about Sams is the pocket, you moron. No one wants him in the pocket, rough ridin' idiot. Can you stupid asses enlighten us to what the turnover count is this season, 2013 not 2011 during scout team play, between the two QBs?
Some of you dumbasses need to open your rough ridin' eyes and see that he is a god damn glorified running back playing quarterback without a solid lead blocker. If he could pass worth a crap he would be. Snyder didn't become a racist over night bent on starting Waters because he hates Sams. Are you really that rough ridin' stupid? He isn't playing Sams because there is something fundamentally very wrong with his passing game.
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If I were going to move Sams to another position, I would move him to corner and hope that the other team thinks he is Roberts. I mean he has the same number and everything.
THIS ISN'T rough ridin' FUNNY!
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If I were going to move Sams to another position, I would move him to corner and hope that the other team thinks he is Roberts. I mean he has the same number and everything.
THIS ISN'T rough ridin' FUNNY!
I'm not laughing. Sams would be all Big 12 at CB.
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Why don't they let Sams pass? Is he really that horrible?
I love Dsams and his love for the team but I have heard that as a true freshman on the scout squad he would occasionally throw more interceptions than completed passes. He came from a highschool that didn't run set/refined plays on offense. Pretty much just line up and go.
This comes from a player that graduated in 2011.
Everyone on this board seems to think he is rough ridin' Brett Favre in the pocket.
No one has said crap about Sams is the pocket, you moron. No one wants him in the pocket, rough ridin' idiot. Can you stupid asses enlighten us to what the turnover count is this season, 2013 not 2011 during scout team play, between the two QBs?
Some of you dumbasses need to open your rough ridin' eyes and see that he is a god damn glorified running back playing quarterback without a solid lead blocker. If he could pass worth a crap he would be. Snyder didn't become a racist over night bent on starting Waters because he hates Sams. Are you really that rough ridin' stupid? He isn't playing Sams because there is something fundamentally very wrong with his passing game.
You are working on the assumption that Bill is of sound mind. He is not.
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If I were going to move Sams to another position, I would move him to corner and hope that the other team thinks he is Roberts. I mean he has the same number and everything.
THIS ISN'T rough ridin' FUNNY!
I'm not laughing. Sams would be all Big 12 at CB.
Easily the best athlete on the field tonight
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If I were going to move Sams to another position, I would move him to corner and hope that the other team thinks he is Roberts. I mean he has the same number and everything.
THIS ISN'T rough ridin' FUNNY!
I'm not laughing. Sams would be all Big 12 at CB.
he's quite possibly the best athlete in this league. he'd be all big 12 at a lot of positions.
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Why don't they let Sams pass? Is he really that horrible?
I love Dsams and his love for the team but I have heard that as a true freshman on the scout squad he would occasionally throw more interceptions than completed passes. He came from a highschool that didn't run set/refined plays on offense. Pretty much just line up and go.
This comes from a player that graduated in 2011.
Everyone on this board seems to think he is rough ridin' Brett Favre in the pocket.
No one has said crap about Sams is the pocket, you moron. No one wants him in the pocket, rough ridin' idiot. Can you stupid asses enlighten us to what the turnover count is this season, 2013 not 2011 during scout team play, between the two QBs?
Some of you dumbasses need to open your rough ridin' eyes and see that he is a god damn glorified running back playing quarterback without a solid lead blocker. If he could pass worth a crap he would be. Snyder didn't become a racist over night bent on starting Waters because he hates Sams. Are you really that rough ridin' stupid? He isn't playing Sams because there is something fundamentally very wrong with his passing game.
I'm going to give you a pass, you clearly were in a coma or had brain damage or something when Sams passed the ball without turning it over against the 2nd best team we beat last year.
Sorry for being mean, you clearly had/have severe medical issues.
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Why don't they let Sams pass? Is he really that horrible?
I love Dsams and his love for the team but I have heard that as a true freshman on the scout squad he would occasionally throw more interceptions than completed passes. He came from a highschool that didn't run set/refined plays on offense. Pretty much just line up and go.
This comes from a player that graduated in 2011.
Everyone on this board seems to think he is rough ridin' Brett Favre in the pocket.
No one has said crap about Sams is the pocket, you moron. No one wants him in the pocket, rough ridin' idiot. Can you stupid asses enlighten us to what the turnover count is this season, 2013 not 2011 during scout team play, between the two QBs?
Some of you dumbasses need to open your rough ridin' eyes and see that he is a god damn glorified running back playing quarterback without a solid lead blocker. If he could pass worth a crap he would be. Snyder didn't become a racist over night bent on starting Waters because he hates Sams. Are you really that rough ridin' stupid? He isn't playing Sams because there is something fundamentally very wrong with his passing game.
I'm going to give you a pass, you clearly were in a coma or had brain damage or something when Sams passed the ball without turning it over against the 2nd best team we beat last year.
Sorry for being mean, you clearly had/have severe medical issues.
dementia
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You guys remember when Colin sat for a year behind Carson Coffman? He can be kind of a dumbass sometimes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot70Ge-Bito
Why would you link to that?
This is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKItkLyfhEE
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You guys remember when Colin sat for a year behind Carson Coffman? He can be kind of a dumbass sometimes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot70Ge-Bito
Why would you link to that?
This is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKItkLyfhEE
I meant to link that one and couldn't find it quickly.
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_Fan, care to update thoughts after TT's postgame meltdown about SAMs?
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Why don't they let Sams pass? Is he really that horrible?
I love Dsams and his love for the team but I have heard that as a true freshman on the scout squad he would occasionally throw more interceptions than completed passes. He came from a highschool that didn't run set/refined plays on offense. Pretty much just line up and go.
This comes from a player that graduated in 2011.
Everyone on this board seems to think he is rough ridin' Brett Favre in the pocket.
No one has said crap about Sams is the pocket, you moron. No one wants him in the pocket, rough ridin' idiot. Can you stupid asses enlighten us to what the turnover count is this season, 2013 not 2011 during scout team play, between the two QBs?
Some of you dumbasses need to open your rough ridin' eyes and see that he is a god damn glorified running back playing quarterback without a solid lead blocker. If he could pass worth a crap he would be. Snyder didn't become a racist over night bent on starting Waters because he hates Sams. Are you really that rough ridin' stupid? He isn't playing Sams because there is something fundamentally very wrong with his passing game.
I'm going to give you a pass, you clearly were in a coma or had brain damage or something when Sams passed the ball without turning it over against the 2nd best team we beat last year.
Sorry for being mean, you clearly had/have severe medical issues.
Are ou talking about when he threw into double coverage against OSU? That was rough ridin' dumb luck.
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Why don't they let Sams pass? Is he really that horrible?
I love Dsams and his love for the team but I have heard that as a true freshman on the scout squad he would occasionally throw more interceptions than completed passes. He came from a highschool that didn't run set/refined plays on offense. Pretty much just line up and go.
This comes from a player that graduated in 2011.
Everyone on this board seems to think he is rough ridin' Brett Favre in the pocket.
No one has said crap about Sams is the pocket, you moron. No one wants him in the pocket, rough ridin' idiot. Can you stupid asses enlighten us to what the turnover count is this season, 2013 not 2011 during scout team play, between the two QBs?
Some of you dumbasses need to open your rough ridin' eyes and see that he is a god damn glorified running back playing quarterback without a solid lead blocker. If he could pass worth a crap he would be. Snyder didn't become a racist over night bent on starting Waters because he hates Sams. Are you really that rough ridin' stupid? He isn't playing Sams because there is something fundamentally very wrong with his passing game.
I'm going to give you a pass, you clearly were in a coma or had brain damage or something when Sams passed the ball without turning it over against the 2nd best team we beat last year.
Sorry for being mean, you clearly had/have severe medical issues.
Lol what 3 or four dink and dunks against a crap D? Really? That's what you fall back on? Pathetic.
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_Fan, care to update thoughts after TT's postgame meltdown about SAMs?
We're all frustrated with losing.
And it doesn't make it any easier to understand.
And it could get ugly if the coaching staff doesn't get it figured out.
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Why don't they let Sams pass? Is he really that horrible?
I love Dsams and his love for the team but I have heard that as a true freshman on the scout squad he would occasionally throw more interceptions than completed passes. He came from a highschool that didn't run set/refined plays on offense. Pretty much just line up and go.
This comes from a player that graduated in 2011.
Everyone on this board seems to think he is rough ridin' Brett Favre in the pocket.
No one has said crap about Sams is the pocket, you moron. No one wants him in the pocket, rough ridin' idiot. Can you stupid asses enlighten us to what the turnover count is this season, 2013 not 2011 during scout team play, between the two QBs?
Some of you dumbasses need to open your rough ridin' eyes and see that he is a god damn glorified running back playing quarterback without a solid lead blocker. If he could pass worth a crap he would be. Snyder didn't become a racist over night bent on starting Waters because he hates Sams. Are you really that rough ridin' stupid? He isn't playing Sams because there is something fundamentally very wrong with his passing game.
I'm going to give you a pass, you clearly were in a coma or had brain damage or something when Sams passed the ball without turning it over against the 2nd best team we beat last year.
Sorry for being mean, you clearly had/have severe medical issues.
Are ou talking about when he threw into double coverage against OSU? That was rough ridin' dumb luck.
Waters threw a ball into triple coverage in the first half of tonight's game and was lucky as hell that it wasnt picked off.
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_Fan, care to update thoughts after TT's postgame meltdown about SAMs?
We're all frustrated with losing.
And it doesn't make it any easier to understand.
And it could get ugly if the coaching staff doesn't get it figured out.
it was pretty clear to me before this game that most, if not all, of the team wanted #life. this is just going to make things worse. at this point I'm praying for a rough ridin' rudy style mutiny.
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You guys remember when Colin sat for a year behind Carson Coffman? He can be kind of a dumbass sometimes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot70Ge-Bito
Why would you link to that?
This is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKItkLyfhEE
I meant to link that one and couldn't find it quickly.
Glad I could help. :cheers:
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_Fan, care to update thoughts after TT's postgame meltdown about SAMs?
We're all frustrated with losing.
And it doesn't make it any easier to understand.
And it could get ugly if the coaching staff doesn't get it figured out.
it was pretty clear to me before this game that most, if not all, of the team wanted #life. this is just going to make things worse. at this point I'm praying for a rough ridin' rudy style mutiny.
I would prefer a Varsity Blues style mutiny at this point. 2 birds with 1 stone.
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Why don't they let Sams pass? Is he really that horrible?
I love Dsams and his love for the team but I have heard that as a true freshman on the scout squad he would occasionally throw more interceptions than completed passes. He came from a highschool that didn't run set/refined plays on offense. Pretty much just line up and go.
This comes from a player that graduated in 2011.
Everyone on this board seems to think he is rough ridin' Brett Favre in the pocket.
No one has said crap about Sams is the pocket, you moron. No one wants him in the pocket, rough ridin' idiot. Can you stupid asses enlighten us to what the turnover count is this season, 2013 not 2011 during scout team play, between the two QBs?
Some of you dumbasses need to open your rough ridin' eyes and see that he is a god damn glorified running back playing quarterback without a solid lead blocker. If he could pass worth a crap he would be. Snyder didn't become a racist over night bent on starting Waters because he hates Sams. Are you really that rough ridin' stupid? He isn't playing Sams because there is something fundamentally very wrong with his passing game.
I'm going to give you a pass, you clearly were in a coma or had brain damage or something when Sams passed the ball without turning it over against the 2nd best team we beat last year.
Sorry for being mean, you clearly had/have severe medical issues.
Are ou talking about when he threw into double coverage against OSU? That was rough ridin' dumb luck.
Waters threw a ball into triple coverage in the first half of tonight's game and was lucky as hell that it wasnt picked off.
Just because I don't think Sams can pass doesn't mean I think Waters is a good quarterback. I think he is rough ridin' horrible but at least he isn't completely one dimensional and can get the ball to the best player on the team.
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Why don't they let Sams pass? Is he really that horrible?
I love Dsams and his love for the team but I have heard that as a true freshman on the scout squad he would occasionally throw more interceptions than completed passes. He came from a highschool that didn't run set/refined plays on offense. Pretty much just line up and go.
This comes from a player that graduated in 2011.
Everyone on this board seems to think he is rough ridin' Brett Favre in the pocket.
No one has said crap about Sams is the pocket, you moron. No one wants him in the pocket, rough ridin' idiot. Can you stupid asses enlighten us to what the turnover count is this season, 2013 not 2011 during scout team play, between the two QBs?
Some of you dumbasses need to open your rough ridin' eyes and see that he is a god damn glorified running back playing quarterback without a solid lead blocker. If he could pass worth a crap he would be. Snyder didn't become a racist over night bent on starting Waters because he hates Sams. Are you really that rough ridin' stupid? He isn't playing Sams because there is something fundamentally very wrong with his passing game.
I'm going to give you a pass, you clearly were in a coma or had brain damage or something when Sams passed the ball without turning it over against the 2nd best team we beat last year.
Sorry for being mean, you clearly had/have severe medical issues.
Are ou talking about when he threw into double coverage against OSU? That was rough ridin' dumb luck.
Are you going to get us those turnover numbers or not?
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Reed played well
Agree to disagree, he had one good play, we had no push at all and that's on him more than anyone else
Had a few good plays. Had as good of pressure as anyone, chased down a rb from behind to prevent a first. Was by no means dominant but was probably our best dlinemen today and was his best game of the season.
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Why don't they let Sams pass? Is he really that horrible?
I love Dsams and his love for the team but I have heard that as a true freshman on the scout squad he would occasionally throw more interceptions than completed passes. He came from a highschool that didn't run set/refined plays on offense. Pretty much just line up and go.
This comes from a player that graduated in 2011.
Everyone on this board seems to think he is rough ridin' Brett Favre in the pocket.
No one has said crap about Sams is the pocket, you moron. No one wants him in the pocket, rough ridin' idiot. Can you stupid asses enlighten us to what the turnover count is this season, 2013 not 2011 during scout team play, between the two QBs?
Some of you dumbasses need to open your rough ridin' eyes and see that he is a god damn glorified running back playing quarterback without a solid lead blocker. If he could pass worth a crap he would be. Snyder didn't become a racist over night bent on starting Waters because he hates Sams. Are you really that rough ridin' stupid? He isn't playing Sams because there is something fundamentally very wrong with his passing game.
I'm going to give you a pass, you clearly were in a coma or had brain damage or something when Sams passed the ball without turning it over against the 2nd best team we beat last year.
Sorry for being mean, you clearly had/have severe medical issues.
Lol what 3 or four dink and dunks against a crap D? Really? That's what you fall back on? Pathetic.
You realize that this Texas D is historically bad right? I'm not going to be mean to you because its obvious that you're either really dumb or slow. Not kidding either.
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Why don't they let Sams pass? Is he really that horrible?
I love Dsams and his love for the team but I have heard that as a true freshman on the scout squad he would occasionally throw more interceptions than completed passes. He came from a highschool that didn't run set/refined plays on offense. Pretty much just line up and go.
This comes from a player that graduated in 2011.
Everyone on this board seems to think he is rough ridin' Brett Favre in the pocket.
No one has said crap about Sams is the pocket, you moron. No one wants him in the pocket, rough ridin' idiot. Can you stupid asses enlighten us to what the turnover count is this season, 2013 not 2011 during scout team play, between the two QBs?
Some of you dumbasses need to open your rough ridin' eyes and see that he is a god damn glorified running back playing quarterback without a solid lead blocker. If he could pass worth a crap he would be. Snyder didn't become a racist over night bent on starting Waters because he hates Sams. Are you really that rough ridin' stupid? He isn't playing Sams because there is something fundamentally very wrong with his passing game.
I'm going to give you a pass, you clearly were in a coma or had brain damage or something when Sams passed the ball without turning it over against the 2nd best team we beat last year.
Sorry for being mean, you clearly had/have severe medical issues.
Are ou talking about when he threw into double coverage against OSU? That was rough ridin' dumb luck.
Waters threw a ball into triple coverage in the first half of tonight's game and was lucky as hell that it wasnt picked off.
Just because I don't think Sams can pass doesn't mean I think Waters is a good quarterback. I think he is rough ridin' horrible but at least he isn't completely one dimensional and can get the ball to the best player on the team.
LOL at the QB who completed one pass all night to somebody not named Tyler Lockett not being one dimensional.
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Texas came out with something to prove. They punched K-State in the face, kneed them in the balls and stomped on their peanut butter sandwich.
Plain and simple.
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Reed played well
Agree to disagree, he had one good play, we had no push at all and that's on him more than anyone else
Had a few good plays. Had as good of pressure as anyone, chased down a rb from behind to prevent a first. Was by no means dominant but was probably our best dlinemen today and was his best game of the season.
Nevermind, I agree with all of this :cheers:
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Texas came out with something to prove. They punched K-State in the face, kneed them in the balls and stomped on their peanut butter sandwich.
Plain and simple.
LHC Bill Snyder continues to play players at multiple positions who are not as good as other players on the bench.
Plain and simple.
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Texas came out with something to prove. They punched K-State in the face, kneed them in the balls and stomped on their peanut butter sandwich.
Plain and simple.
prefer to believe in the faults in our own team rather than Texas gaining super powers. Thanks tho.
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Why don't they let Sams pass? Is he really that horrible?
I love Dsams and his love for the team but I have heard that as a true freshman on the scout squad he would occasionally throw more interceptions than completed passes. He came from a highschool that didn't run set/refined plays on offense. Pretty much just line up and go.
This comes from a player that graduated in 2011.
Everyone on this board seems to think he is rough ridin' Brett Favre in the pocket.
No one has said crap about Sams is the pocket, you moron. No one wants him in the pocket, rough ridin' idiot. Can you stupid asses enlighten us to what the turnover count is this season, 2013 not 2011 during scout team play, between the two QBs?
Some of you dumbasses need to open your rough ridin' eyes and see that he is a god damn glorified running back playing quarterback without a solid lead blocker. If he could pass worth a crap he would be. Snyder didn't become a racist over night bent on starting Waters because he hates Sams. Are you really that rough ridin' stupid? He isn't playing Sams because there is something fundamentally very wrong with his passing game.
I agree. He is a god damn glorified running back. And he is a really good one. He needs to be on the field.
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If Waters is the guy, then bill has wasted 4 games because he knew from day rough ridin' on that they wouldn't let sams throw. It is just about the stupidest rough ridin' decision I have ever seen. They let him throw last year against OSU in crucial rough ridin' moments. I don't have words for how irresponsible and rough ridin' stupid it is to not let sams throw.
are u guys at practice? maybe sams is garbage in practice, maybe he doesnt hustle etc. jesus h christ talk about a bunch of whiny fans. the problem is your OL, they are straight crap.
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prefer to believe in the faults in our own team rather than Texas gaining super powers. Thanks tho.
Texas had no super powers tonight. They just wanted it more. They had the fire and it showed.
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Why don't they let Sams pass? Is he really that horrible?
I love Dsams and his love for the team but I have heard that as a true freshman on the scout squad he would occasionally throw more interceptions than completed passes. He came from a highschool that didn't run set/refined plays on offense. Pretty much just line up and go.
This comes from a player that graduated in 2011.
Everyone on this board seems to think he is rough ridin' Brett Favre in the pocket.
No one has said crap about Sams is the pocket, you moron. No one wants him in the pocket, rough ridin' idiot. Can you stupid asses enlighten us to what the turnover count is this season, 2013 not 2011 during scout team play, between the two QBs?
Some of you dumbasses need to open your rough ridin' eyes and see that he is a god damn glorified running back playing quarterback without a solid lead blocker. If he could pass worth a crap he would be. Snyder didn't become a racist over night bent on starting Waters because he hates Sams. Are you really that rough ridin' stupid? He isn't playing Sams because there is something fundamentally very wrong with his passing game.
I agree. He is a god damn glorified running back. And he is a really good one. He needs to be on the field.
I hate our fans.
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If Waters is the guy, then bill has wasted 4 games because he knew from day rough ridin' on that they wouldn't let sams throw. It is just about the stupidest rough ridin' decision I have ever seen. They let him throw last year against OSU in crucial rough ridin' moments. I don't have words for how irresponsible and rough ridin' stupid it is to not let sams throw.
are u guys at practice? maybe sams is garbage in practice, maybe he doesnt hustle etc. jesus h christ talk about a bunch of whiny fans. the problem is your OL, they are straight crap.
tim makes a good point here
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If Waters is the guy, then bill has wasted 4 games because he knew from day rough ridin' on that they wouldn't let sams throw. It is just about the stupidest rough ridin' decision I have ever seen. They let him throw last year against OSU in crucial rough ridin' moments. I don't have words for how irresponsible and rough ridin' stupid it is to not let sams throw.
are u guys at practice? maybe sams is garbage in practice, maybe he doesnt hustle etc. jesus h christ talk about a bunch of whiny fans. the problem is your OL, they are straight crap.
Well this post was a nice surprise. Shouldn't you be celebrating the big win? You guys may score less points this season in conference play than you did last season. Ts and Ps.
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I conclude that Sams will start next week.
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_Fan, care to update thoughts after TT's postgame meltdown about SAMs?
what did he say?
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If Waters is the guy, then bill has wasted 4 games because he knew from day rough ridin' on that they wouldn't let sams throw. It is just about the stupidest rough ridin' decision I have ever seen. They let him throw last year against OSU in crucial rough ridin' moments. I don't have words for how irresponsible and rough ridin' stupid it is to not let sams throw.
are u guys at practice? maybe sams is garbage in practice, maybe he doesnt hustle etc. jesus h christ talk about a bunch of whiny fans. the problem is your OL, they are straight crap.
Well this post was a nice surprise. Shouldn't you be celebrating the big win? You guys may score less points this season in conference play than you did last season. Ts and Ps.
all im saying is there is a reason Sams isnt starting.....and i have to believe snyder has a better eye for who is better for the team right now
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_Fan, care to update thoughts after TT's postgame meltdown about SAMs?
what did he say?
Basically that Sams can throw, does it in practice. Was a quote about Sams not playing in 2nd half being wasting a lot of talent.
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Why don't they let Sams pass? Is he really that horrible?
I love Dsams and his love for the team but I have heard that as a true freshman on the scout squad he would occasionally throw more interceptions than completed passes. He came from a highschool that didn't run set/refined plays on offense. Pretty much just line up and go.
This comes from a player that graduated in 2011.
Everyone on this board seems to think he is rough ridin' Brett Favre in the pocket.
No one has said crap about Sams is the pocket, you moron. No one wants him in the pocket, rough ridin' idiot. Can you stupid asses enlighten us to what the turnover count is this season, 2013 not 2011 during scout team play, between the two QBs?
Some of you dumbasses need to open your rough ridin' eyes and see that he is a god damn glorified running back playing quarterback without a solid lead blocker. If he could pass worth a crap he would be. Snyder didn't become a racist over night bent on starting Waters because he hates Sams. Are you really that rough ridin' stupid? He isn't playing Sams because there is something fundamentally very wrong with his passing game.
I agree. He is a god damn glorified running back. And he is a really good one. He needs to be on the field.
I hate our fans.
Jesus Christ you are by far the worst. Why don't you look up from Sams lap for a second, take a breath, wipe off your chin, and then watch the highlights of him consistently struggling to move the ball against any D with a pulse outside of junk time. He is not a good QB right now. Waters isn't either, but one can pass and the other can't and that's why he is the starter and Sams is a change of pace guy.
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I conclude that Sams will start next week.
Against bye? Yeah probably
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Why don't they let Sams pass? Is he really that horrible?
I love Dsams and his love for the team but I have heard that as a true freshman on the scout squad he would occasionally throw more interceptions than completed passes. He came from a highschool that didn't run set/refined plays on offense. Pretty much just line up and go.
This comes from a player that graduated in 2011.
Everyone on this board seems to think he is rough ridin' Brett Favre in the pocket.
No one has said crap about Sams is the pocket, you moron. No one wants him in the pocket, rough ridin' idiot. Can you stupid asses enlighten us to what the turnover count is this season, 2013 not 2011 during scout team play, between the two QBs?
Some of you dumbasses need to open your rough ridin' eyes and see that he is a god damn glorified running back playing quarterback without a solid lead blocker. If he could pass worth a crap he would be. Snyder didn't become a racist over night bent on starting Waters because he hates Sams. Are you really that rough ridin' stupid? He isn't playing Sams because there is something fundamentally very wrong with his passing game.
I agree. He is a god damn glorified running back. And he is a really good one. He needs to be on the field.
I hate our fans.
That was worst case scenario. He might be a QB. Won't know if they don't let he throw.
But even if he is the most horrible passer in the history of the college football he needs to be on the field. We have all seen what he can do.
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Snyder didn't let Klein throw his sophomore year either. He Did some of the weird two qb crap with him and Coffman. A lot of people assumed he just couldn't throw at all just like they are with SAMs. Not that Klein was a great passer but obviously he could throw some as it turned out. I'm not giving up on SAMs.
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prefer to believe in the faults in our own team rather than Texas gaining super powers. Thanks tho.
Texas had no super powers tonight. They just wanted it more. They had the fire and it showed.
How do we fix that?
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I conclude that Sams will start next week.
Against bye? Yeah probably
Just say'n
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Snyder didn't let Klein throw his sophomore year either. He Did some of the weird two qb crap with him and Coffman. A lot of people assumed he just couldn't throw at all just like they are with SAMs. Not that Klein was a great passer but obviously he could throw some as it turned out. I'm not giving up on SAMs.
Coffman wasn't a turnover machine like Waters, though.
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Why don't they let Sams pass? Is he really that horrible?
I love Dsams and his love for the team but I have heard that as a true freshman on the scout squad he would occasionally throw more interceptions than completed passes. He came from a highschool that didn't run set/refined plays on offense. Pretty much just line up and go.
This comes from a player that graduated in 2011.
Everyone on this board seems to think he is rough ridin' Brett Favre in the pocket.
No one has said crap about Sams is the pocket, you moron. No one wants him in the pocket, rough ridin' idiot. Can you stupid asses enlighten us to what the turnover count is this season, 2013 not 2011 during scout team play, between the two QBs?
Some of you dumbasses need to open your rough ridin' eyes and see that he is a god damn glorified running back playing quarterback without a solid lead blocker. If he could pass worth a crap he would be. Snyder didn't become a racist over night bent on starting Waters because he hates Sams. Are you really that rough ridin' stupid? He isn't playing Sams because there is something fundamentally very wrong with his passing game.
I agree. He is a god damn glorified running back. And he is a really good one. He needs to be on the field.
I hate our fans.
Jesus Christ you are by far the worst. Why don't you look up from Sams lap for a second, take a breath, wipe off your chin, and then watch the highlights of him consistently struggling to move the ball against any D with a pulse outside of junk time. He is not a good QB right now. Waters isn't either, but one can pass and the other can't and that's why he is the starter and Sams is a change of pace guy.
A blow job joke! Good posting, btw you're welcome for the tip I gave you earlier about your auto caps. I can't fix your brain though, sorry.
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Snyder didn't let Klein throw his sophomore year either. He Did some of the weird two qb crap with him and Coffman. A lot of people assumed he just couldn't throw at all just like they are with SAMs. Not that Klein was a great passer but obviously he could throw some as it turned out. I'm not giving up on SAMs.
What is this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKItkLyfhEE
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I conclude that Sams will start next week.
Against bye? Yeah probably
:lol:
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Am I crazy or did the post game show not take phone calls?
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Why don't they let Sams pass? Is he really that horrible?
I love Dsams and his love for the team but I have heard that as a true freshman on the scout squad he would occasionally throw more interceptions than completed passes. He came from a highschool that didn't run set/refined plays on offense. Pretty much just line up and go.
This comes from a player that graduated in 2011.
Everyone on this board seems to think he is rough ridin' Brett Favre in the pocket.
No one has said crap about Sams is the pocket, you moron. No one wants him in the pocket, rough ridin' idiot. Can you stupid asses enlighten us to what the turnover count is this season, 2013 not 2011 during scout team play, between the two QBs?
Some of you dumbasses need to open your rough ridin' eyes and see that he is a god damn glorified running back playing quarterback without a solid lead blocker. If he could pass worth a crap he would be. Snyder didn't become a racist over night bent on starting Waters because he hates Sams. Are you really that rough ridin' stupid? He isn't playing Sams because there is something fundamentally very wrong with his passing game.
I agree. He is a god damn glorified running back. And he is a really good one. He needs to be on the field.
I hate our fans.
Jesus Christ you are by far the worst. Why don't you look up from Sams lap for a second, take a breath, wipe off your chin, and then watch the highlights of him consistently struggling to move the ball against any D with a pulse outside of junk time. He is not a good QB right now. Waters isn't either, but one can pass and the other can't and that's why he is the starter and Sams is a change of pace guy.
A blow job joke! Good posting, btw you're welcome for the tip I gave you earlier about your auto caps. I can't fix your brain though, sorry.
I'm on a computer, genius. You're tip much like you're thoughts on the QB subject was misguided and completely wrong.
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Texas came out with something to prove. They punched K-State in the face, kneed them in the balls and stomped on their peanut butter sandwich.
Plain and simple.
Texas is a bunch of pussies. They come out with fire every game and wilt as soon as they get hit in the mouth. Hell they fumbled the opening kickoff and our lame asses couldn't Even fall on the damn thing. Just falling on that one ball probably would have been enough for them to quit. Even with them playing from the lead all night they wanted to choke several times but we kept self destructing to prevent it. We Fumbled twice without even getting hit by a Texas player. Both times we were driving to make it a one score game. These guys were broken by a bunch of Mormons for goodness sake.
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:D
and your grasp of the english language
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:D
and your grasp of the english language
Lol i ssee you look for that all the time like some rough ridin' little kid who just learned something new.
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:D
and your grasp of the english language
Lol i ssee you look for that all the time like some rough ridin' little kid who just learned something new.
You are worse then tim. Go away.
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:D
and your grasp of the english language
Lol i ssee you look for that all the time like some rough ridin' little kid who just learned something new.
You are worse then tim. Go away.
stop crying
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:D
and your grasp of the english language
Lol i ssee you look for that all the time like some rough ridin' little kid who just learned something new.
You are worse then tim. Go away.
stop crying
No, he's right "your" worse than Tim.
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I'm going to take this opportunity to pile on "MixBerryCrunch" by pointing out (for the second time!) that the character in his avatar is Mint-Berry Crunch, not "MixBerryCrunch". :curse:
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i'm gonna pick a new team or just completely devote myself to my fantasy teams and forget that college ball ever even existed
This is why I am rooting for a combination of the Obannon case and conference upheaval to destroy college sport as we know it.
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i'm gonna pick a new team or just completely devote myself to my fantasy teams and forget that college ball ever even existed
This is why I am rooting for a combination of the Obannon case and conference upheaval to destroy college sport as we know it.
I think the most devastating thing that happened to you last night was mack calming the waters a bit
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It is really hard to root for K-State when seeing/hearing "Sams can't throw because Bill's smarter than you and knows he can't throw" and "I told you Daniel could throw, did you see that TD pass to Gronk?," the latter from Dr. Dementia himself.
But I pulled it off.
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i'm gonna pick a new team or just completely devote myself to my fantasy teams and forget that college ball ever even existed
This is why I am rooting for a combination of the Obannon case and conference upheaval to destroy college sport as we know it.
I think the most devastating thing that happened to you last night was mack calming the waters a bit
I am like a rudderless ship, at the moment.
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It is really hard to root for K-State when seeing/hearing "Sams can't throw because Bill's smarter than you and knows he can't throw" and "I told you Daniel could throw, did you see that TD pass to Gronk?," the latter from Dr. Dementia himself.
yes, it's ridiculous. OT. do you think sean has POA on bill or something?
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It is really hard to root for K-State when seeing/hearing "Sams can't throw because Bill's smarter than you and knows he can't throw" and "I told you Daniel could throw, did you see that TD pass to Gronk?," the latter from Dr. Dementia himself.
yes, it's ridiculous. OT. do you think sean has POA on bill or something?
Whitney looks like the one who'd be driving that crazy train.
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It is really hard to root for K-State when seeing/hearing "Sams can't throw because Bill's smarter than you and knows he can't throw" and "I told you Daniel could throw, did you see that TD pass to Gronk?," the latter from Dr. Dementia himself.
yes, it's ridiculous. OT. do you think sean has POA on bill or something?
Whitney looks like the one who'd be driving that crazy train.
hmmmm, maybe
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I think Snyder is more Paterno/Bowden than we think.
Minus the NCs
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Sams can't move the ball. He's slash, is what it is.
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It is really hard to root for K-State when seeing/hearing "Sams can't throw because Bill's smarter than you and knows he can't throw" and "I told you Daniel could throw, did you see that TD pass to Gronk?," the latter from Dr. Dementia himself.
yes, it's ridiculous. OT. do you think sean has POA on bill or something?
Whitney looks like the one who'd be driving that crazy train.
hmmm, don't we have an "in" with Whitney? seems like we could convince her about Sams.
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Sams can't move the ball. He's slash, is what it is.
Based on what evidence? Your only argument is that if Sams wants to throw he can change the play, which is a horrible argument.
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It is really hard to root for K-State when seeing/hearing "Sams can't throw because Bill's smarter than you and knows he can't throw" and "I told you Daniel could throw, did you see that TD pass to Gronk?," the latter from Dr. Dementia himself.
yes, it's ridiculous. OT. do you think sean has POA on bill or something?
Whitney looks like the one who'd be driving that crazy train.
hmmm, don't we have an "in" with Whitney? seems like we could convince her about Sams.
:surprised:
Do we? But I don't think she cares about football, so long as the money keeps rolling in.
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The QB thing is over. This is Waters' team and Sams either needs to switch positions or transfer. Bill simply doesn't trust him to run his offense.
This hurts so much. I'm almost ready to go tuck and say Sams should play RB. It's painfully obvious Snyder loves Waters, and it won't change. I just don't want Sams to leave.
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The QB thing is over. This is Waters' team and Sams either needs to switch positions or transfer. Bill simply doesn't trust him to run his offense.
This hurts so much. I'm almost ready to go tuck and say Sams should play RB. It's painfully obvious Snyder loves Waters, and it won't change. I just don't want Sams to leave.
Sams should leave. I'm not sure we deserve him.
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What I observed last night was the lackadaisical recruiting efforts by Coach Snyder finally catch up with him. With the exception of Lockett (and I notice some say Hubert), Texas' athleticism overwhelmed K-State.
Here are my thoughts:
1) After the Big XII started divisional football, K-State was able to hang since they did not have to play round robin;
2) The Big XII may get back to 12 teams, which would create divisional play again. However there is always a chance that depending on where the next two teams come from, OU and OSU could be placed in the Big XII North Division;
K-State has come along way to not keep this going. Someone on that staff needs to do some aggressive recruiting.
3) It would seem clear from K-State's style of play, they could go to the midwest for recruitment, but would have to compete with the BIG for top players.
An ugly reality is upon this program. K-State must recruit better to maintain relevance in going head-to-head. Even if the Big XII brings in 2 additional teams (which I don't see that happening, I expect this league to fold if super-conferences start forming), K-State has to aggressively recruit.
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What I observed last night was the lackadaisical recruiting efforts by Coach Snyder finally catch up with him. With the exception of Lockett (and I notice some say Hubert), Texas' athleticism overwhelmed K-State.
Here are my thoughts:
1) After the Big XII started divisional football, K-State was able to hang since they did not have to play round robin;
2) The Big XII may get back to 12 teams, which would create divisional play again. However there is always a chance that depending on where the next two teams come from, OU and OSU could be placed in the Big XII North Division;
K-State has come along way to not keep this going. Someone on that staff needs to do some aggressive recruiting.
3) It would seem clear from K-State's style of play, they could go to the midwest for recruitment, but would have to compete with the BIG for top players.
An ugly reality is upon this program. K-State must recruit better to maintain relevance in going head-to-head. Even if the Big XII brings in 2 additional teams (which I don't see that happening, I expect this league to fold if super-conferences start forming), K-State has to aggressively recruit.
interesting if true.
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What I observed last night was the lackadaisical recruiting efforts by Coach Snyder finally catch up with him. With the exception of Lockett (and I notice some say Hubert), Texas' athleticism overwhelmed K-State.
Here are my thoughts:
1) After the Big XII started divisional football, K-State was able to hang since they did not have to play round robin;
2) The Big XII may get back to 12 teams, which would create divisional play again. However there is always a chance that depending on where the next two teams come from, OU and OSU could be placed in the Big XII North Division;
K-State has come along way to not keep this going. Someone on that staff needs to do some aggressive recruiting.
3) It would seem clear from K-State's style of play, they could go to the midwest for recruitment, but would have to compete with the BIG for top players.
An ugly reality is upon this program. K-State must recruit better to maintain relevance in going head-to-head. Even if the Big XII brings in 2 additional teams (which I don't see that happening, I expect this league to fold if super-conferences start forming), K-State has to aggressively recruit.
you should change your name to functioningretard
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We have all the talent we need to be 4-0.
We have to quit coaching like a dumbass.
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We have all the talent we need to be 4-0.
We have to quit coaching like a dumbass.
so we need to fire snyder? is that what you're saying?
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no we need to quit trying to recreate Collin Klein with 2 QBs that are not Klein.
I will tell you when I think we should fire someone.
Fire Currie
Fire oscar
Fire Obama
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no we need to quit trying to recreate Collin Klein with 2 QBs that are not Klein.
I will tell you when I think we should fire someone.
Fire Currie
Fire oscar
Fire Obama
fire snyder b/c u don't like what he is doing anymore is what you're saying.
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I still hate check with me offense. No flow or rhythm.
so much bad last night, but man I hate that. They were doing check with me with the clock running under 40 seconds down 10.
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Anybody watching the game on ESPNU? I always end up having a more positive outlook after I rewatch losses. Someone please tell me we still suck and it was more than some missed opportunities so I don't do this to myself.
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Two bone headed and nearly inexplicable turnovers.
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On the Hubert fumble, you can fault the pitch a little, but it still hit him right in the hands. He had a lot of daylight and he started running for it before he handled the pitch.
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On the Hubert fumble, you can fault the pitch a little, but it still hit him right in the hands. He had a lot of daylight and he started running for it before he handled the pitch.
Unless it was supposed to be a handoff, I don't think you can reasonably fault that pitch
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On the Hubert fumble, you can fault the pitch a little, but it still hit him right in the hands. He had a lot of daylight and he started running for it before he handled the pitch.
Unless it was supposed to be a handoff, I don't think you can reasonably fault that pitch
that turn over doesn't bother me on many levels, just an inherent risk of the option game. every other turn over.....
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On the Hubert fumble, you can fault the pitch a little, but it still hit him right in the hands. He had a lot of daylight and he started running for it before he handled the pitch.
Pitch was fine. But the number of speed option calls is the problem, especially considering the amount of success they had.
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yep, the risk reward of a Waters-Hubes option is not in the Cats favor. it's like they only have the play sheet from last year
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On the Hubert fumble, you can fault the pitch a little, but it still hit him right in the hands. He had a lot of daylight and he started running for it before he handled the pitch.
Pitch was fine. But the number of speed option calls is the problem, especially considering the amount of success they had.
I'd say he spiral-delivered it to Hubert fine, as far as it being a catchable ball. His timing on this play and others was astonishing. I've never seen a single defender have such an easy time covering both the quarterback and running back on the option.
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I think a draw or zone-read from Waters is okay a few times a game but the option just has to be put to rest this season. Running the option that many times with repeated failure was the coaches' version of a Roy McAvoy moment.
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On the Hubert fumble, you can fault the pitch a little, but it still hit him right in the hands. He had a lot of daylight and he started running for it before he handled the pitch.
Pitch was fine. But the number of speed option calls is the problem, especially considering the amount of success they had.
I'd say he spiral-delivered it to Hubert fine, as far as it being a catchable ball. His timing on this play and others was astonishing. I've never seen a single defender have such an easy time covering both the quarterback and running back on the option.
yes, in that they don't have to cover the quarterback at all because he's scared of contact and can't rough ridin' run and everyone knows it.
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What if Bill is taking a page out of Frank's old playbook? Starting/playing Waters to prove a point to Sams, Ojeleye style.
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Has anyone considered that Bill threw this game for Mack?
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Has anyone considered that Bill threw this game for Mack?
Things that make you say hmmm.
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Not like completely overtly but by being so obvious and not letting SAMs beat UT?
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I would love to know what was said at midfield during the lengthy and intimate postgame eartickling.
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I would love to know what was said at midfield during the lengthy and intimate postgame eartickling.
probably just the same self-indulgent bullshit he says after every game with mack. telling him how great of a human being he is and how important he is to the world in general. all so he can hear the same thing in return. :jerk:
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:frown:
didn't read after the first paragraph, this season is dead to me
Tonight it's clear Sams is a spot player at best. Snyder and his staff don't think they can win with him as "the guy", so it's ultimately on them.
Ironic, since we're winning so much with Waters as "the guy." :rolleyes:
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This thread is so depressing. Give Daniel a chance. :frown: