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Title: The Eyes have it
Post by: catzacker on September 19, 2013, 08:48:43 AM
Texas can’t stop the run (121st in the country @ 308.7yds given up), neither can KSU (80th in the country @ 171.7yds surrendered)

KSU can’t run (67th in the country) or rather refuses to.

SpiralInterception.com has thrown 5 int’s in 3 games against awful opponents, which is just 4 shy of the season total from last year.

UT actually turns the ball over less than we do (they are +2 in TO Margin, we are -2).

And if you think UT’s defense is just awful, note that our 3rd down conv rate on defense is a paltry 48% (105th in the country), UT’s is 40% (79th in the country).

I think Mack actually watches the ND St. game films and realizes that all he has to do is have Case turn around and hand off and occasionally throw a 3rd down and 4 pass to a wide open WR or Slot Receiver over the middle and keep the chains moving against our god awful defense.  They are going to run the ball and run the ball and run the ball (UT is 46th in the nation in Rush O).  And there really won’t be anything we can do to stop it because we haven’t shown that we can.

Meanwhile, Dr. Dementia will continue to think he’s out smarting other teams by not playing his best player on offense and put the ball in Mr. Int’s hands (at least until he throws the ball into the hands of the other team).

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Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: scottwildcat on September 19, 2013, 08:50:37 AM
zacker gunna zacker (even though you may be right)
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 19, 2013, 08:51:19 AM
yeah, I'm not putting up a fight on this one guys.  :ohno:
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: kso_FAN on September 19, 2013, 08:54:20 AM
Cats gonna win.
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: kso_FAN on September 19, 2013, 08:59:16 AM
New Big 12 blog guy:

Texas 31, Kansas State 28: The reasons to pick against Texas are many. The Longhorns have been an embarrassment stopping the run, and K-State’s Daniel Sams runs as well as any QB in the league. The Wildcats also own Texas with a five-game winning streak in the series. But QB David Ash should be back in the lineup for Longhorns, and K-State has had its own problems defensively this season. Plus, after K-State linebacker Tre Walker accused Texas this summer of always rolling over, the Longhorns -- if they have any heart at all -- have to show up for this game, right?

Roger’s pick: Texas finally gets it together; plus, very rarely has Texas lost three games in a row. Texas, 24-21
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 19, 2013, 09:00:15 AM
I agree with zacker that we will lose with Waters, but we will absolutely crush them if Sams starts.
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: steve dave on September 19, 2013, 09:01:53 AM
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Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 19, 2013, 09:05:32 AM
It feels like Texas could come out with a bunch of emotion and get after us a little bit early. Like the Nebraska 2007 where they heard how much they suck for 7 weeks then released all that anger on us. Of course we sucked too so.....
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 19, 2013, 09:08:40 AM
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Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: catzacker on September 19, 2013, 09:09:30 AM
It feels more like @ MU in 2010 (MU 38  KSU 28).  Klein comes in and runs over MU then bill gives the ball back to carson to fumble at the goal line.

Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: TownieCat on September 19, 2013, 09:10:05 AM
It feels like Texas could come out with a bunch of emotion and get after us a little bit early. Like the Nebraska 2007 where they heard how much they suck for 7 weeks then released all that anger on us. Of course we sucked too so.....

 :sdeek:
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 19, 2013, 09:13:51 AM
It is going to be an incredibly frustrating game to watch for fans of both teams.
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: steve dave on September 19, 2013, 09:16:26 AM
It is going to be an incredibly frustrating game to watch for fans of both teams.

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Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: Tobias on September 19, 2013, 09:20:04 AM
It is going to be an incredibly frustrating game to watch for fans of both teams.

booze pak, tho
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: kso_FAN on September 19, 2013, 09:22:33 AM
It is going to be an incredibly frustrating game to watch for fans of both teams.

It won't be worse than the game 2 years ago.
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: steve dave on September 19, 2013, 09:23:20 AM
It is going to be an incredibly frustrating game to watch for fans of both teams.

It won't be worse than the game 2 years ago.

that was exciting because I thought we were going to get destroyed.
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: kso_FAN on September 19, 2013, 09:33:28 AM
It is going to be an incredibly frustrating game to watch for fans of both teams.

It won't be worse than the game 2 years ago.

that was exciting because I thought we were going to get destroyed.

Klein to Harper before half was pretty amazing... but 121 total yards and some very ugly football.
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: steve dave on September 19, 2013, 09:38:40 AM
It is going to be an incredibly frustrating game to watch for fans of both teams.

It won't be worse than the game 2 years ago.

that was exciting because I thought we were going to get destroyed.

Klein to Harper before half was pretty amazing... but 121 total yards and some very ugly football.

they just kept sucking harder and harder though.
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: Panjandrum on September 19, 2013, 09:40:40 AM
New Big 12 blog guy:

Texas 31, Kansas State 28: The reasons to pick against Texas are many. The Longhorns have been an embarrassment stopping the run, and K-State’s Daniel Sams runs as well as any QB in the league. The Wildcats also own Texas with a five-game winning streak in the series. But QB David Ash should be back in the lineup for Longhorns, and K-State has had its own problems defensively this season. Plus, after K-State linebacker Tre Walker accused Texas this summer of always rolling over, the Longhorns -- if they have any heart at all -- have to show up for this game, right?

Roger’s pick: Texas finally gets it together; plus, very rarely has Texas lost three games in a row. Texas, 24-21

Even if Ash plays, he's got to be gun shy after that concussion.
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: WildcatNkilt on September 19, 2013, 09:41:33 AM
If Sams comes in and starts to run all over them, Texas will lay down and give up after the 1st quarter.  If Waters starts, the game will be close the entire time.  This one is on you Bill.
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 19, 2013, 09:45:58 AM
It is going to be an incredibly frustrating game to watch for fans of both teams.

It won't be worse than the game 2 years ago.

that was exciting because I thought we were going to get destroyed.

Klein to Harper before half was pretty amazing... but 121 total yards and some very ugly football.

they just kept sucking harder and harder though.

referee assisted
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: catzacker on September 19, 2013, 09:49:09 AM
Texas is not going to lay down.  I’d imagine that if we start Sams, we won’t get much out of the first couple of series because Texas will basically be in punt block formation to stop the run (which is why I think Bill will think he needs to put Waters in).  And even if we score first, our defense and defensive special teams are such that no game is out of reach for the opponent.  Our kick off unit is embarrassing.
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: kslim on September 19, 2013, 09:50:16 AM
Texas is not going to lay down.  I’d imagine that if we start Sams, we won’t get much out of the first couple of series because Texas will basically be in punt block formation to stop the run (which is why I think Bill will think he needs to put Waters in).  And even if we score first, our defense and defensive special teams are such that no game is out of reach for the opponent.  Our kick off unit is embarrassing.

hmmmmm.....
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: catzacker on September 19, 2013, 09:52:11 AM
instead of, ya know, letting Daniel throw.

If Daniel starts, the first play should be that one where he has the pass run option and he throws it to the TE.
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: AbeFroman on September 19, 2013, 09:55:05 AM
It feels more like @ MU in 2010 (MU 38  KSU 28).  Klein comes in and runs over MU then bill gives the ball back to carson to fumble at the goal line.

Oh man, I was super pak'd at the game. Ranted on about Chris Cosh right in front of his wife (didn't know it was his wife). She was all  :frown:
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: MadCat on September 19, 2013, 09:55:23 AM
That one Sams to Gronk touchdown pass play.  :peek:
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 19, 2013, 09:57:55 AM
I predict Texas will come out fired up, and yes I agree with Zacker, they'd be absolutely stupid not to come out and try to ram the ball right down our throat, and then just throw 5 and 7 yard out/squat routes against our pillow soft corner coverage and make our corners have to tackle their receivers. 



Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 19, 2013, 10:00:36 AM
:DNR: Too excited for this trip and I'm not gonna let Zacker get me down. Qatz by 13.
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: Lefty on September 19, 2013, 10:02:24 AM
How the hell will Bill scheme this game?

-Start Sams and test Texas' front 7?
-Start Sams and throw the ball from beginning?
-Start Waters and get a feel for how he handles big game pressure. Using first 2 series to read Texas?
-Start Waters and 4 WR sets, establishing pass first?

The worst thing Snyder could do is start Waters and play slow for first 2 series. He needs to go for rough ridin' throat from beginning. But he won't.
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: catzacker on September 19, 2013, 10:02:59 AM
:DNR: Too excited for this trip and I'm not gonna let Zacker get me down. Qatz by 13.

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Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: MadCat on September 19, 2013, 10:03:41 AM
Start HSC; Mack's mind blown; breaks nose
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: _33 on September 19, 2013, 10:09:17 AM
I want Sams to run the JBeasley offense.  QB run, handoff, or 60 yd bomb.  3 options.
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: KCFDcat on September 19, 2013, 10:13:55 AM
Waters is 100% going to start

source: F-
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: CNS on September 19, 2013, 10:52:45 AM
Texas running a bunch is what Texas should have been trying to do for like 3 yrs now since they have has such shitty QB's.

Would be a great plan if they have anyone that could actually run.  Our D sucks against it and it would take the ability for Case to lose the game out of Case's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) hands.

I think Zacker may be on to something unless we just Sams the crap out of them.
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: michigancat on September 19, 2013, 10:55:04 AM
It feels more like @ MU in 2010 (MU 38  KSU 28).  Klein comes in and runs over MU then bill gives the ball back to carson to fumble at the goal line.



oh, I forgot about that season. Snyder was such a dumbass for not playing Collin all year.
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: Rams on September 19, 2013, 11:02:17 AM
It feels more like @ MU in 2010 (MU 38  KSU 28).  Klein comes in and runs over MU then bill gives the ball back to carson to fumble at the goal line.



oh, I forgot about that season. Snyder was such a dumbass for not playing Collin all year.
the more you think about previous years under snyder, the more you start realizing how many wasted plays and sometimes games (and sometimes years) he spent starting the inferior qb.  it's really pretty disturbing.
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: catzacker on September 19, 2013, 11:07:37 AM
It feels more like @ MU in 2010 (MU 38  KSU 28).  Klein comes in and runs over MU then bill gives the ball back to carson to fumble at the goal line.



oh, I forgot about that season. Snyder was such a dumbass for not playing Collin all year.

I think that year and this year probably parallel each other in that he has one qb who can “throw” and one who can run, and he has an absolutely awful defense.  The MU game that year was one of his worst coaching job, imo.  They couldn’t really stop Collin, iirc, and yet he kept going back to Carson.   Thank goodness for Daniel Thomas that year. 
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: Brock Landers on September 19, 2013, 11:16:33 AM
It feels more like @ MU in 2010 (MU 38  KSU 28).  Klein comes in and runs over MU then bill gives the ball back to carson to fumble at the goal line.



oh, I forgot about that season. Snyder was such a dumbass for not playing Collin all year.
the more you think about previous years under snyder, the more you start realizing how many wasted plays and sometimes games (and sometimes years) he spent starting the inferior qb.  it's really pretty disturbing.


That's how dementia usually sets in.  Slow at first, just a few weird instances of behavior here and there and you don't fully realize it until you start looking back on stuff several years later.
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: POWL on September 19, 2013, 11:33:44 AM
I want Sams to run the JBeasley offense.  QB run, handoff, or 60 yd bomb.  3 options.

great offense..........but left out "roll to the right, 60 yard bomb"
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: Skipper44 on September 19, 2013, 12:41:23 PM
It feels more like @ MU in 2010 (MU 38  KSU 28).  Klein comes in and runs over MU then bill gives the ball back to carson to fumble at the goal line.



oh, I forgot about that season. Snyder was such a dumbass for not playing Collin all year.

I think that year and this year probably parallel each other in that he has one qb who can “throw” and one who can run, and he has an absolutely awful defense.  The MU game that year was one of his worst coaching job, imo.  They couldn’t really stop Collin, iirc, and yet he kept going back to Carson.   Thank goodness for Daniel Thomas that year.
That might be a decent parallel is IF Sams was absolutely terrible at throwing the ball like CK was at that point in his career.  I am not sure 2010 CK could even throw that beautiful (but incomplete) back corner of the endzone fade Sams threw vs OSU last season.
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: Skipper44 on September 19, 2013, 12:43:17 PM
How the hell will Bill scheme this game?

-Start Sams and test Texas' front 7?
-Start Sams and throw the ball from beginning?
-Start Waters and get a feel for how he handles big game pressure. Using first 2 series to read Texas?
-Start Waters and 4 WR sets, establishing pass first?

The worst thing Snyder could do is start Waters and play slow for first 2 series. He needs to go for rough ridin' throat from beginning. But he won't.
I am scared of starting Waters and running the CK offense resulting in many 3rd and longs that lead to interceptiondeliverysystem.com
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: Functianalyst on September 19, 2013, 12:45:43 PM
K-State could easily take this game lightly.  In hindsight the loss to NDSU may have snapped KSU back to reality.  I am glad everyone is on edge about the game.  I gurantee UT can't take the game lightly.
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: NDSU Lollypopkid on September 19, 2013, 12:47:13 PM
we got bumped to UCONN/Michigan...just to show how shitty of a gameday saturday is
Title: Re: The Eyes have it
Post by: kslim on September 19, 2013, 12:52:16 PM
It feels more like @ MU in 2010 (MU 38  KSU 28).  Klein comes in and runs over MU then bill gives the ball back to carson to fumble at the goal line.



oh, I forgot about that season. Snyder was such a dumbass for not playing Collin all year.
the more you think about previous years under snyder, the more you start realizing how many wasted plays and sometimes games (and sometimes years) he spent starting the inferior qb.  it's really pretty disturbing.

playbook knowledge, ya know?