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Title: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: lopakman on September 09, 2013, 05:17:45 PM
So I left work early today to pick up my daughter at school and just as I was leaving the school I got pulled over for going 41 (allegedly) in a 25 mph school zone and have a $380 ticket now.  I really don't think I was going that fast. I had just turned out of the school parking lot and I drive a Lexus hybrid, it's not a fast car.  I didn't check my spedometer immediately tho because I didn't notice him until I had stopped a couple hundred feet later at a red light.

Since 50% of the moderators and posters here are lawyers or law students this should be a relatively simple task.  Court date is 10/23.
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: Gooch on September 09, 2013, 05:21:21 PM
So I left work early today to pick up my daughter at school and just as I was leaving the school I got pulled over for going 41 (allegedly) in a 25 mph school zone and have a $380 ticket now.  I really don't think I was going that fast. I had just turned out of the school parking lot and I drive a Lexus hybrid, it's not a fast car.  I didn't check my spedometer immediately tho because I didn't notice him until I had stopped a couple hundred feet later at a red light.

Since 50% of the moderators and posters here are lawyers or law students this should be a relatively simple task.  Court date is 10/23.
Just hope the lazy prick doesn't show up for court.
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: AST on September 09, 2013, 05:28:21 PM
Call the officer and tell him in your haste you forgot to introduce him to your good friends lincoln and washington and tell him you will introduce them at a bar of his choosing
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: Trim on September 09, 2013, 05:32:08 PM
Not that kind of lawyer.
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: pissclams on September 09, 2013, 05:36:42 PM
best way to get out of it is to just pay double.  also, quit speeding in school zones, the future of our world is at stake, dumbass.
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: ChiComCat on September 09, 2013, 05:41:07 PM
Teach your daughter a valuable lesson about making mistakes and taking responsibility for them
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: lopakman on September 09, 2013, 05:41:10 PM
best way to get out of it is to just pay double.  also, quit speeding in school zones, the future of our world is at stake, dumbass.

You can't pay double to get out of a ticket if it's in a school zone.  I thought we'd be further along than this by now.
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: lopakman on September 09, 2013, 05:43:07 PM
Teach your daughter a valuable lesson about making mistakes and taking responsibility for them

I guess you missed this part.

I really don't think I was going that fast.
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: AST on September 09, 2013, 05:43:35 PM
best way to get out of it is to just pay double.  also, quit speeding in school zones, the future of our world is at stake, dumbass.

You can't pay double to get out of a ticket if it's in a school zone.  I thought we'd be further along than this by now.

Like we woule know, we're not the dumbass doing 41 in a school zone  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: Trim on September 09, 2013, 05:44:59 PM
Why do you think you weren't going 41?  Make sure to pull your best fanning and include details about your lexus in your response.
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: lopakman on September 09, 2013, 05:52:13 PM
Why do you think you weren't going 41?  Make sure to pull your best fanning and include details about your lexus in your response.

I had just turned out of the parking lot, made a legal u-turn and hit a red light about a quarter mile down the road.  That means my slow but luxurious car had to go from 0 to 41 mph and back down to 0 in a quarter mile.  I just don't think it is possible.
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: Mr Bread on September 09, 2013, 06:00:14 PM
Why do you think you weren't going 41?  Make sure to pull your best fanning and include details about your lexus in your response.

I had just turned out of the parking lot, made a legal u-turn and hit a red light about a quarter mile down the road.  That means my slow but luxurious car had to go from 0 to 41 mph and back down to 0 in a quarter mile.  I just don't think it is possible.

Smells like a trial to me.  Have someone videotape you doing exactly that on a closed course.  Play it, then rest your case.  Make sure you don't go over the speed limit when you make your video though.  Very important.  Also gonna need a radar gun and maybe a second camera to get that too.  Maybe get a camera in the car with you too to record the ol' speedo, and for eff's sake tank up, video and court.  Case closed, verdict not guilty.   
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: hemmy on September 09, 2013, 06:05:07 PM
ianal
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: DQ12 on September 09, 2013, 06:12:51 PM
not that kind of law student
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: star seed 7 on September 09, 2013, 06:15:00 PM
pissclams seems to have the most prudent advice so far.
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: Trim on September 09, 2013, 06:18:33 PM
Why do you think you weren't going 41?  Make sure to pull your best fanning and include details about your lexus in your response.

I had just turned out of the parking lot, made a legal u-turn and hit a red light about a quarter mile down the road.  That means my slow but luxurious car had to go from 0 to 41 mph and back down to 0 in a quarter mile.  I just don't think it is possible.

Maybe you're on to something if you've gotten your stats, straight.
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 09, 2013, 06:21:00 PM
rick daris is a cop, you should ask him.
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: lopakman on September 09, 2013, 07:04:17 PM
Why do you think you weren't going 41?  Make sure to pull your best fanning and include details about your lexus in your response.

I had just turned out of the parking lot, made a legal u-turn and hit a red light about a quarter mile down the road.  That means my slow but luxurious car had to go from 0 to 41 mph and back down to 0 in a quarter mile.  I just don't think it is possible.

Smells like a trial to me.  Have someone videotape you doing exactly that on a closed course.  Play it, then rest your case.  Make sure you don't go over the speed limit when you make your video though.  Very important.  Also gonna need a radar gun and maybe a second camera to get that too.  Maybe get a camera in the car with you too to record the ol' speedo, and for eff's sake tank up, video and court.  Case closed, verdict not guilty.   

Good idea.  We're all going to need to get on this.  Who's got a radar gun?  Time is of the essence.
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: wetwillie on September 09, 2013, 07:08:35 PM
Lot of trouble to go to just to tell us you have a lexus hybrid.
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: CNS on September 09, 2013, 07:09:28 PM
My personal cellular phone has a built in camera. Not sure if vid or just still shots though....

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Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: Tobias on September 09, 2013, 07:13:47 PM
did this happen near City Market lopak?  if so, i might have seen you! (late lunch with the bossman)
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: lopakman on September 09, 2013, 07:25:22 PM
did this happen near City Market lopak?  if so, i might have seen you! (late lunch with the bossman)

Happened in Olathe.
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: lopakman on September 09, 2013, 07:26:50 PM
My personal cellular phone has a built in camera. Not sure if vid or just still shots though....

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Check and get back to me.  If it doesn't you can man the radar gun. 
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: pissclams on September 09, 2013, 07:53:25 PM
pissclams seems to have the most prudent advice so far.

some people call me the advice master 2014
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: Mr Bread on September 09, 2013, 07:55:49 PM
That one guy calls you pisspants all the time.  Never the advice master 2014 yet. 
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: Winters on September 09, 2013, 07:57:44 PM
I'll write you in prison
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: XocolateThundarr on September 09, 2013, 08:02:09 PM
Go out and measure the height of the speed limit signs to make sure they are legal per MUTCD.

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Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: lopakman on September 09, 2013, 08:06:09 PM
I'll write you in prison

I appreciate that because I just found their twitter handle.  I'll probably be there soon.
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 09, 2013, 08:58:23 PM
I don't think you're story is true. I bet you were speeding
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 09, 2013, 09:24:03 PM
2012 Lexus LS 600hL   0-60 mph 5.7   Quarter Mile 14.0
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: lopakman on September 09, 2013, 09:30:39 PM
2012 Lexus LS 600hL   0-60 mph 5.7   Quarter Mile 14.0

Would take.

My car on the other hand 2010 Lexus HS 250h  0-60 8.7  Quarter mile 16.4
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 09, 2013, 09:39:42 PM
I would wear one of your classier tanks just fyi.
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 09, 2013, 09:46:44 PM
2012 Lexus LS 600hL   0-60 mph 5.7   Quarter Mile 14.0

Would take.

My car on the other hand 2010 Lexus HS 250h  0-60 8.7  Quarter mile 16.4

so you could have easily gotten to 41mph in less an eighth of a mile....
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 09, 2013, 11:10:52 PM
Sell the Lexus and buy my 5 series (gently used, non-functioning back right window), then tell the judge that it isn't even your car listed on the ticket. Then party.
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: bones129 on September 09, 2013, 11:20:25 PM
Go out and measure the height of the speed limit signs to make sure they are legal per MUTCD.

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 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 09, 2013, 11:30:33 PM
Go out to the speed limit sign with black spray paint and paint a 4 over the 2 so the sign says the speed limit is 40. Take a camera and set the date and time to right after you received the ticket, and then take a photo of the speed limit sign with a time stamp on the photo. Take it to court and say that you couldn't possibly have known you were speeding because some bad person vandalized the speed limit signs.

Just don't get caught. You will wish you had paid the money if you do.
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: jdagg2003 on September 10, 2013, 01:21:39 AM
-Request video of the traffic stop
-Request calibration records for the radar gun if used
-change your court date to a different day of the week (preferably earlier)
-if all else fails try to play dumb to the prosecutor but obviously don't admit you did it


I have gotten out of 5 charges so far this year by doing this

Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: Stevesie60 on September 10, 2013, 02:54:44 AM
Better call Saul!
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: lopakman on September 10, 2013, 07:30:21 AM
2012 Lexus LS 600hL   0-60 mph 5.7   Quarter Mile 14.0

Would take.

My car on the other hand 2010 Lexus HS 250h  0-60 8.7  Quarter mile 16.4



so you could have easily gotten to 41mph in less an eighth of a mile....

Probably, but I couldn't have gotten back down to 0 for the stop light.
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: lopakman on September 10, 2013, 07:30:49 AM
Sell the Lexus and buy my 5 series (gently used, non-functioning back right window), then tell the judge that it isn't even your car listed on the ticket. Then party.

You still haven't fixed that window?
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: lopakman on September 10, 2013, 07:39:03 AM
I would wear one of your classier tanks just fyi.

Is the black too formal?

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1351.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp786%2Flopakman%2Fms-best__fuck-the-police-tank__black__primary_zpse71ce89f.jpg&hash=0f1dd8911de9d150b94fc21eff9d6239c5332ee3)
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: Cire on September 10, 2013, 09:26:26 AM
I got a 33 in a 25 written 2 minutes after the school zone started once.
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 10, 2013, 09:32:05 AM
Sell the Lexus and buy my 5 series (gently used, non-functioning back right window), then tell the judge that it isn't even your car listed on the ticket. Then party.

You still haven't fixed that window?

trying to sell the car. dont wanna fix it.
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 10, 2013, 09:32:59 AM
I'd either go with obama can't ban these guns or I flexed and the sleeves fell off
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Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on September 10, 2013, 09:37:25 AM
25 mph school zones?  :dunno:
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Post by: AbeFroman on September 10, 2013, 09:39:23 AM
I got a 33 in a 25 written 2 minutes after the school zone started once.

I had a Leawood cop pull me over for a school zone violation on December 27th. Luckily his superior officer saved me the time of explaining that in court and made the officer tear up my ticket a few days later.
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: lopakman on September 10, 2013, 09:52:18 AM
I got a 33 in a 25 written 2 minutes after the school zone started once.

Bastard.  He/she should have given you a warning.
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: Institutional Control on September 10, 2013, 10:00:41 AM
Why were you going so fast in a school zone? Were you rushing home to watch an MMA fight or something?
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: Skipper44 on September 10, 2013, 10:18:52 AM
download a data logging car perfomance app like this one

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.prowl.torquefree&hl=en (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.prowl.torquefree&hl=en)

and do a few runs (durring non school hours!) and see if 41 mph is possible in your fancy boy camry
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: Emo EMAW on September 10, 2013, 10:41:48 AM
Couple things:

One time my wife got a ticket and explained to me it wasn't possible she was going that fast because of the distance from her last spot.  We went out there and it was like a half-mile.  I just  :ROFL:.

Do you have a GPS in your car?  Was it on?  You can pull the track history and verify your actual speed.
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: lopakman on September 10, 2013, 12:51:24 PM
Why were you going so fast in a school zone? Were you rushing home to watch an MMA fight or something?

No but that would have at least been a good excuse.  Get the eff out of the way kids, there's a fight to be seen.
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: lopakman on September 10, 2013, 12:52:53 PM
Couple things:

One time my wife got a ticket and explained to me it wasn't possible she was going that fast because of the distance from her last spot.  We went out there and it was like a half-mile.  I just  :ROFL:.

Do you have a GPS in your car?  Was it on?  You can pull the track history and verify your actual speed.

I'm going to go back tonight and attempt to recreate the crime scene.  If I can get up to 41 and back down to 0 without having to floor it, then I"ll just the pay the damn ticket. 
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 10, 2013, 01:10:37 PM
Couple things:

One time my wife got a ticket and explained to me it wasn't possible she was going that fast because of the distance from her last spot.  We went out there and it was like a half-mile.  I just  :ROFL:.

Do you have a GPS in your car?  Was it on?  You can pull the track history and verify your actual speed.

I'm going to go back tonight and attempt to recreate the crime scene.  If I can get up to 41 and back down to 0 without having to floor it, then I"ll just the pay the damn ticket.

I'm PMing Daris so he can show up and give you a second ticket tonight.
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: lopakman on September 10, 2013, 01:16:14 PM
Couple things:

One time my wife got a ticket and explained to me it wasn't possible she was going that fast because of the distance from her last spot.  We went out there and it was like a half-mile.  I just  :ROFL:.

Do you have a GPS in your car?  Was it on?  You can pull the track history and verify your actual speed.

I'm going to go back tonight and attempt to recreate the crime scene.  If I can get up to 41 and back down to 0 without having to floor it, then I"ll just the pay the damn ticket.

I'm PMing Daris so he can show up and give you a second ticket tonight.

Won't matter, normal speed limit on that road is 40 mph.  Besides I'd like to see RD try and give me a ticket for going one mile an hour over the speed limit.   :comehere:
Title: Re: Let's put our heads together and get lopakman out of a speeding ticket.
Post by: Cire on September 10, 2013, 07:56:28 PM
Why were you going so fast in a school zone? Were you rushing home to watch an MMA fight or something?

Not sure if me but I wasn't paying attention to time.