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Wish we had Patterson. Snyder can't win a bowl game and can't recruit. And now he can't beat FCS teams. I love Snyder but he's peaked. It's over.
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he buys into his own hype. he refuses to recruit. its time for us to move on.
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Patterson would have had the third team in in the 4th quarter.
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JFC, you guys just had a statue put up and now you want him replaced? you people saying that garbage are shitty fans.
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JFC, you guys just had a statue put up and now you want him replaced? you people saying that garbage are shitty fans.
I'm having trouble believing you watched either the Baylor, Oregon, or NDSU games.
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JFC, you guys just had a statue put up and now you want him replaced? you people saying that garbage are shitty fans.
I'm having trouble believing you watched either the Baylor, Oregon, or NDSU games.
watched them all and I was AT the game tonight. so 3 losses and he needs replaced? lol pathetic...you should be banned.
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JFC, you guys just had a statue put up and now you want him replaced? you people saying that garbage are shitty fans.
I'm having trouble believing you watched either the Baylor, Oregon, or NDSU games.
watched them all and I was AT the game tonight. so 3 losses and he needs replaced? lol pathetic...you should be banned.
Tim, I'm glad you're happy about this and you've earned it. Go crazy tonight.
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JFC, you guys just had a statue put up and now you want him replaced? you people saying that garbage are shitty fans.
he makes a good point. It's one game, guys. Bronze statue.
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JFC, you guys just had a statue put up and now you want him replaced? you people saying that garbage are shitty fans.
I'm having trouble believing you watched either the Baylor, Oregon, or NDSU games.
watched them all and I was AT the game tonight. so 3 losses and he needs replaced? lol pathetic...you should be banned.
3 losses which he did the same crap that hadn't worked for the previous 45 minutes. This team wasnt even close to prepared to play ANY team. I don't want him fired, I'm saying he has been bad for those 2 and HORRIBLE for this game.
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He calmed the waters last year. He has overstayed his welcome. Get lost Snyder.
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We needed Patterson. This will haunt us forever.
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he is too old. he is a horrid recruiter, just horrid.
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Currie needs to be having a talk with Bohl right now.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfR-JRxe9lk
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Bill is a legend, but he barely coached on a high school level tonight.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfR-JRxe9lk
That made me smile. Thank you kind sir.
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He calmed the waters last year. He has overstayed his welcome. Get lost Snyder.
:flush: :flush: Just pointing it out.
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He calmed the waters last year. He has overstayed his welcome. Get lost Snyder.
:flush: :flush: Just pointing it out.
Pointing what out?
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He calmed the waters last year. He has overstayed his welcome. Get lost Snyder.
:flush: :flush: Just pointing it out.
Pointing what out?
:blindfold: nothing at all.
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I like Bill. Hopefully he gets the point across and we score 60+ the rest of the season.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl5vi9ir49g
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:facepalm:
Back to the 2009 talking points. Meltdown/Carnes thread.
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another reason for termination is i'm starting to get the feeling that bill is racist
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If you don't meltdown after this loss then you are a racist.
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2004 all over again
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If you don't meltdown after this loss then you are a racist.
No doubt about it.
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Lol.....
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For the idiots saying KSU can do better without Snyder I ask one question, and one question only, what is KSU's record with Snyder and what is their record without Snyder? Remember this is coming from a non-KSU fan, actually from someone who cannot stand KSU but is smart enough to know KSU is absolutely nothing without Snyder at the helm and their overall record reflects that.
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For the idiots saying KSU can do better without Snyder I ask one question, and one question only, what is KSU's record with Snyder and what is their record without Snyder? Remember this is coming from a non-KSU fan, actually from someone who cannot stand KSU but is smart enough to know KSU is absolutely nothing without Snyder at the helm and their overall record reflects that.
Actually, after tonight's loss, we have a worse record with Snyder than we do with all of our other coaches combined. Kind of weird, huh?
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Wish we had Patterson. Snyder can't win a bowl game and can't recruit. And now he can't beat FCS teams. I love Snyder but he's peaked. It's over.
You guys missed that boat. You can't have him.
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Burn it down?
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Pretty sure goEMAW called this 4 years ago when he was hired. He'll have some success but it wont be pretty in the long run. Better hope Currie's huge surplus he has is going into coach funding. If he Webers it, I'm rough ridin' done.
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dorks
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:clap:
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Actually, after tonight's loss, we have a worse record with Snyder than we do with all of our other coaches combined. Kind of weird, huh?
Not sure what kind of KSU math you are using there sir, but KSU is 170-86-1 (66%) under Snyder and 316-529-40 (35%) under all your other coaches combined. Do the math...
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Actually, after tonight's loss, we have a worse record with Snyder than we do with all of our other coaches combined. Kind of weird, huh?
Not sure what kind of KSU math you are using there sir, but KSU is 170-86-1 (66%) under Snyder and 316-529-40 (35%) under all your other coaches combined. Do the math...
This is not accurate. Check your source
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Actually, after tonight's loss, we have a worse record with Snyder than we do with all of our other coaches combined. Kind of weird, huh?
Not sure what kind of KSU math you are using there sir, but KSU is 170-86-1 (66%) under Snyder and 316-529-40 (35%) under all your other coaches combined. Do the math...
Pffft, where are your stats from, Wikipedia?
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This is not accurate. Check your source
All right KSU fans, please inform me what your all-time record is with and without Snyder in charge.
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we missed a golden opportunity to fire snyder and hire kingsbury after last year. we would have been set for the next 30 years. timing is everything and when an opportunity like that presents itself, you have to seize it.
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Stop dumbassing up every thread, Carnes!
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fanning, i'm not surprised you want to allow snyder to drive this program into the ground
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This is not accurate. Check your source
All right KSU fans, please inform me what your all-time record is with and without Snyder in charge.
One worse than all the other coaches combined. Stevesie already said it. Holy crap you are dense
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will bill do the right thing and retire if we finish under 500 this year?
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I've always struggled with this topic.
I understand all the points against Snyder, but I do hope he continues to win consistently and is able to walk away on winning terms.
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I've always struggled with this topic.
I understand all the points against Snyder, but I do hope he continues to win consistently and is able to walk away on winning terms.
the guy is like 80 years old, we have to move on at some point and what better time than now?
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One worse than all the other coaches combined. Stevesie already said it. Holy crap you are dense
False again. Seriously, take a minute and look up KSU's history. You two are truly delusional if you think KSU has done anything without Snyder. He has won over 60% of is games and EVERY other KSU coach combined has won under 40% of their games. Facts are facts and opinions are opinions, and sadly the numbers speaks for themselves and are facts.
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This is not accurate. Check your source
All right KSU fans, please inform me what your all-time record is with and without Snyder in charge.
Well since it's so damned important to you, then why don't you just go look it up yourself?
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Well since it's so damned important to you, then why don't you just go look it up yourself?
Already did and posted it. See above. Pretty sad the non-KSU fan knows more about the history of KSU football than KSU fans who have posted thousands of times on this forum.
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We should've hired Saban
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Does Saban have a son?
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the game has passed him by and he refuse to evolve. we had a few decent transfers and some prince leftovers and were pretty good (but far from really good) for 2 years but those guys are gone and those days are over. if we don't make a change, we're mumped.
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the game has passed him by and he refuse to evolve. we had a few decent transfers and some prince leftovers and were pretty good (but far from really good) for 2 years but those guys are gone and those days are over. if we don't make a change, we're mumped.
This. Haven't you guys seen the Blue Mountain State episode where Alex Moran hits his peak? Well, Bill hit his peak. We will never win a title under him. He is the only reason we are where we are today, but there's just a point in time that we need to part ways.
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Oh it's this thread again. :flush:
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Well since it's so damned important to you, then why don't you just go look it up yourself?
Already did and posted it. See above. Pretty sad the non-KSU fan knows more about the history of KSU football than KSU fans who have posted thousands of times on this forum.
Did you check your source like you were asked to do? Because nobody here believes your stats are accurate.
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I hope Snyder coaches for the next 100 years.
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the game has passed him by and he refuse to evolve. we had a few decent transfers and some prince leftovers and were pretty good (but far from really good) for 2 years but those guys are gone and those days are over. if we don't make a change, we're mumped.
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I'm not sure we could do better. Petrino would be worth a shot if you wanted to try.
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This thread can GTFOOMF. If you really think we would be better off right now without Snyder, you can go eat a bowl of dicks. This thread :flush:
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I hope Snyder coaches for the next 100 years.
hey dlew, you can wish in one hand and crap in the other and we'll see which one gets filled first :ROFL:
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This thread can GTFOOMF. If you really think we would be better off right now without Snyder, you can go eat a bowl of dicks. This thread :flush:
:'bye cruel world:
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I am w dlew, but do wish that Bill could find the 2013 version of the crew he had in the mid '90's. Assist coaches are the major diff in Bill v1.0 & Bill v2.0.
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I am w dlew, but do wish that Bill could find the 2013 version of the crew he had in the mid '90's. Assist coaches are the major diff in Bill v1.0 & Bill v2.0.
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How did he pull it off the first time? Did he forget how to bring in stud assistant coaches? Lose the eye for talent? Less money? Doesn't care?
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I am w dlew, but do wish that Bill could find the 2013 version of the crew he had in the mid '90's. Assist coaches are the major diff in Bill v1.0 & Bill v2.0.
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How did he pull it off the first time? Did he forget how to bring in stud assistant coaches? Lose the eye for talent? Less money? Doesn't care?
It's a dead end job now. I mean how much longer is Bill going to coach?
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Snyder got outcoached no doubt. But everyone does at some point. I'm still a fan of having LHC Bill Snyder coach for K-S the U.
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Snyder got outcoached no doubt. But everyone does at some point. I'm still a fan of having LHC Bill Snyder coach for K-S the U.
Yeah. I mean it's just one game, guys. I would take Bill over the vast majority of other coaches out there.
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I am w dlew, but do wish that Bill could find the 2013 version of the crew he had in the mid '90's. Assist coaches are the major diff in Bill v1.0 & Bill v2.0.
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How did he pull it off the first time? Did he forget how to bring in stud assistant coaches? Lose the eye for talent? Less money? Doesn't care?
He hasn't done anything diff. The rest of college fb has. Bill still demands 20 hr days 7days a week. The rest of college has shown that ppl can be coaches w/o that level of grind. Why grind like that w Bill when you can coach elsewhere and see your family too while still winning.
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Remember when Bill Schemed everyone ('cept some spread teams) the last 2 years? He got outcoached last night. It happens. It sucked but it happens.
but recruiting tho
Fair point. I'm weirdly optimistic about the next signing class, and hopeful for the best. :tucksinshirt:
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Remember when Bill Schemed everyone ('cept some spread teams) the last 2 years? He got outcoached last night. It happens. It sucked but it happens.
but recruiting tho
Fair point. I'm weirdly optimistic about the next signing class, and hopeful for the best. :tucksinshirt:
different players, tho
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bill is not going to change. its too rough ridin' late for that.
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I am w dlew, but do wish that Bill could find the 2013 version of the crew he had in the mid '90's. Assist coaches are the major diff in Bill v1.0 & Bill v2.0.
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How did he pull it off the first time? Did he forget how to bring in stud assistant coaches? Lose the eye for talent? Less money? Doesn't care?
Tough to bring in assistants when they don't know how long you will be there and they know your son has favored status for anything. JUCO mining is also more prevalent now than when he first started. Lose the eye for talent maybe a stretch but finding a DITR when recruiting info is much more readily available is probably a bigger challenge as well.
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Emphasis has moved from out coaching and out preparing others to out recruiting others. Bill has said that himself. And he rough ridin' hates it.
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Emphasis has moved from out coaching and out preparing others to out recruiting others. Bill has said that himself. And he rough ridin' hates it.
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its both, you have to do both
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at this point, i would take venables.
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at this point, i would take venables.
Dont be a dumbass, scott frost is the obvious choice.
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Bill gets out coached every time a team has multiple weeks to game plan. Why?
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we need patterson, he is 100x more of a stud now than snyder ever was.
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Bill gets out coached every time a team has multiple weeks to game plan. Why?
I've often wondered this myself. If he is such a good schemer and such, then shouldn't we have an advantage in these situations? instead the teams are never prepared and the coaching sucks.
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at this point, i would take venables.
Dont be a dumbass, scott frost is the obvious choice.
I would love that hire.
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bill is not going to change. its too rough ridin' late for that.
Of course he isn't/won't. Which is why he is getting the same results as the first time. Shitty recruiting, coaches leaving, shitty roster with no depth (because of the shitty recruiting).
I am a shitty Sams performance from considering the qb "battle" dylan v webb rather than dunn v ell.
eff bill for building the same goddamned titanic as he did last time. How the eff can one man eff up this bad TWICE. eff. Get better everyday must just be a do as I say not as I do thing.
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Things KSU Athletics should do
- make sure Vanier 3.0 is spectacular for recruiting purposes
- sit Mr. Snyder down if he slips again and tell him its time.
- not hire Sean Snyder
- build an awesome dormitory for all athletes.
- set aside a huge fund for the next football hire.
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we need patterson, he is 100x more of a stud now than snyder ever was.
I want to see patterson have to actually hire a coordinator if/when bumpas retires/leaves. And see if he gets someone other than VK.
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at this point, i would take venables.
Dont be a dumbass, scott frost is the obvious choice.
I would love that hire.
i think i'd rather have venables. he is an aggressive/non-pussy who won't give up on recruiting.
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at this point, i would take venables.
Dont be a dumbass, scott frost is the obvious choice.
I would love that hire.
i think i'd rather have venables. he is an aggressive/non-pussy who won't give up on recruiting.
I get the recruiting, but the phylosophy of if 5 guys cant get to the qb, ill send 7 really doesnt work in todays times. Besides we had ron prince, james franklin, and raheem morris. All these guys could land was josh freeman from 120 miles away. The state of kansas isnt what i would call a haven for good recruits to come to.
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at this point, i would take venables.
Dont be a dumbass, scott frost is the obvious choice.
I would love that hire.
i think i'd rather have venables. he is an aggressive/non-pussy who won't give up on recruiting.
It'll be a cold day in hell before Brent Venables has any professional associations with the KSU athletic department.
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at this point, i would take venables.
Dont be a dumbass, scott frost is the obvious choice.
I would love that hire.
i think i'd rather have venables. he is an aggressive/non-pussy who won't give up on recruiting.
It'll be a cold day in hell before Brent Venables has any professional associations with the KSU athletic department.
Why? Cause of that one thing that no one says but like everyone knows? Did bill fondle him?
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at this point, i would take venables.
Dont be a dumbass, scott frost is the obvious choice.
I would love that hire.
i think i'd rather have venables. he is an aggressive/non-pussy who won't give up on recruiting.
It'll be a cold day in hell before Brent Venables has any professional associations with the KSU athletic department.
The only thing i really like about him is i think he'd cheat his ass off to get recruits. But when it came to coaching it screams ron zook. Only urban meyer isnt comibg to kstate afterwards to clean up
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at this point, i would take venables.
Dont be a dumbass, scott frost is the obvious choice.
I would love that hire.
i think i'd rather have venables. he is an aggressive/non-pussy who won't give up on recruiting.
It'll be a cold day in hell before Brent Venables has any professional associations with the KSU athletic department.
well dude, we just lost to an FCS school
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at this point, i would take venables.
Dont be a dumbass, scott frost is the obvious choice.
I would love that hire.
i think i'd rather have venables. he is an aggressive/non-pussy who won't give up on recruiting.
It'll be a cold day in hell before Brent Venables has any professional associations with the KSU athletic department.
well dude, we just lost to an FCS school
1998 tho
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at this point, i would take venables.
Dont be a dumbass, scott frost is the obvious choice.
I would love that hire.
i think i'd rather have venables. he is an aggressive/non-pussy who won't give up on recruiting.
It'll be a cold day in hell before Brent Venables has any professional associations with the KSU athletic department.
well dude, we just lost to an FCS school
The more i look at kim's avatar, the more im reminded how we shouldve lost to an fcs school in 2011 when bryce crap his pants and lost a fumble on our end. Thank god for greatest emaw ever chris harper.
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at this point, i would take venables.
Dont be a dumbass, scott frost is the obvious choice.
I would love that hire.
i think i'd rather have venables. he is an aggressive/non-pussy who won't give up on recruiting.
It'll be a cold day in hell before Brent Venables has any professional associations with the KSU athletic department.
well dude, we just lost to an FCS school
The more i look at kim's avatar, the more im reminded how we shouldve lost to an fcs school in 2011 when bryce crap his pants and lost a fumble on our end. Thank god for greatest emaw ever chris harper.
:lol:
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at this point, i would take venables.
Dont be a dumbass, scott frost is the obvious choice.
I would love that hire.
i think i'd rather have venables. he is an aggressive/non-pussy who won't give up on recruiting.
I get the recruiting, but the phylosophy of if 5 guys cant get to the qb, ill send 7 really doesnt work in todays times. Besides we had ron prince, james franklin, and raheem morris. All these guys could land was josh freeman from 120 miles away. The state of kansas isnt what i would call a haven for good recruits to come to.
Recruits go to a lot of terrible places to play for good recruiters. Have you ever been to Stillwater, Norman or Waco? Those are godawful towns to live in for 4/5 years.
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at this point, i would take venables.
Dont be a dumbass, scott frost is the obvious choice.
I would love that hire.
i think i'd rather have venables. he is an aggressive/non-pussy who won't give up on recruiting.
I get the recruiting, but the phylosophy of if 5 guys cant get to the qb, ill send 7 really doesnt work in todays times. Besides we had ron prince, james franklin, and raheem morris. All these guys could land was josh freeman from 120 miles away. The state of kansas isnt what i would call a haven for good recruits to come to.
Recruits go to a lot of terrible places to play for good recruiters. Have you ever been to Stillwater, Norman or Waco? Those are godawful towns to live in for 4/5 years.
Perhaps they are paid to go there? :dunno:
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at this point, i would take venables.
Dont be a dumbass, scott frost is the obvious choice.
I would love that hire.
i think i'd rather have venables. he is an aggressive/non-pussy who won't give up on recruiting.
I get the recruiting, but the phylosophy of if 5 guys cant get to the qb, ill send 7 really doesnt work in todays times. Besides we had ron prince, james franklin, and raheem morris. All these guys could land was josh freeman from 120 miles away. The state of kansas isnt what i would call a haven for good recruits to come to.
Recruits go to a lot of terrible places to play for good recruiters. Have you ever been to Stillwater, Norman or Waco? Those are godawful towns to live in for 4/5 years.
Why would you include Norman but leave off Lubbock?
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at this point, i would take venables.
Dont be a dumbass, scott frost is the obvious choice.
I would love that hire.
i think i'd rather have venables. he is an aggressive/non-pussy who won't give up on recruiting.
I get the recruiting, but the phylosophy of if 5 guys cant get to the qb, ill send 7 really doesnt work in todays times. Besides we had ron prince, james franklin, and raheem morris. All these guys could land was josh freeman from 120 miles away. The state of kansas isnt what i would call a haven for good recruits to come to.
Recruits go to a lot of terrible places to play for good recruiters. Have you ever been to Stillwater, Norman or Waco? Those are godawful towns to live in for 4/5 years.
Why would you include Norman but leave off Lubbock?
Lubbock. Been there. It's the worst.
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Why would you include Norman but leave off Lubbock?
Because OU hauls in 4*s and 5*s on a regular basis.
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at this point, i would take venables.
Dont be a dumbass, scott frost is the obvious choice.
I would love that hire.
i think i'd rather have venables. he is an aggressive/non-pussy who won't give up on recruiting.
I get the recruiting, but the phylosophy of if 5 guys cant get to the qb, ill send 7 really doesnt work in todays times. Besides we had ron prince, james franklin, and raheem morris. All these guys could land was josh freeman from 120 miles away. The state of kansas isnt what i would call a haven for good recruits to come to.
Recruits go to a lot of terrible places to play for good recruiters. Have you ever been to Stillwater, Norman or Waco? Those are godawful towns to live in for 4/5 years.
They are fantastic places to live if you are a member of the local college football team (well, maybe not Waco). Manhattan is, too. I agree with you that the whole "getting recruits to Manhattan is impossible" line is complete bullshit, but let's not pretend that those other college towns are awful. They are all great.
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How did he win 21 games the past two seasons? Since according to the edgy TCFS crowd he is terrible.
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How did he win 21 games the past two seasons? Since according to the edgy TCFS crowd he is terrible.
Transfers, prince leftovers and a few decent jucos. Jesus, is it that hard to figure out?
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How did he win 21 games the past two seasons? Since according to the edgy TCFS crowd he is terrible.
Transfers, prince leftovers and a few decent jucos. Jesus, is it that hard to figure out?
So no credit given for transfers/good jucos or in season prep and coaching. Just complaining about recruiting and how old he is. Got it. I'll give the edgy crowd this, they dig in hard on these ones.
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The recruiting this is kind of a big rough ridin' deal. Missing out on the plethora of Juco kids that could have helped this shitty defense is going to cost this program.
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Better assistants could resolve this.
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2009 was a worse roster and situation. Spin it however you want but our quarterback was Carson Coffman, Snyder found Daniel Thomas and that was our entire offense for 2 years. And he juco'd and transfer'd us to being a game away from a MNC. Until we got to about 7-0 in 2011 the edgy crowd was dying to fire LHC Bill Snyder because the game had passed him by.
Yet we just finished a Big XII championship season. Mike Leach (who many on this board were in favor of) never won a Big XII 'ship. Gary Patterson has never won a Big XII home game. Maybe this is 2004, but maybe this is 2010 and next year is 2011.
Snyder will never be fired, and frankly he's earned that. Get over yourselves.
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How did he win 21 games the past two seasons? Since according to the edgy TCFS crowd he is terrible.
Transfers, prince leftovers and a few decent jucos. Jesus, is it that hard to figure out?
So no credit given for transfers/good jucos or in season prep and coaching. Just complaining about recruiting and how old he is. Got it. I'll give the edgy crowd this, they dig in hard on these ones.
Thats his job, man
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2009 was a worse roster and situation. Spin it however you want but our quarterback was Carson Coffman, Snyder found Daniel Thomas and that was our entire offense for 2 years. And he juco'd and transfer'd us to being a game away from a MNC. Until we got to about 7-0 in 2011 the edgy crowd was dying to fire LHC LHC Bill Snyder because the game had passed him by.
Yet we just finished a Big XII championship season. Mike Leach (who many on this board were in favor of) never won a Big XII 'ship. Gary Patterson has never won a Big XII home game. Maybe this is 2004, but maybe this is 2010 and next year is 2011.
Snyder will never be fired, and frankly he's earned that. Get over yourselves.
prince found thomas you dumbass
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hey guys look how edgy he is
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I am extremely uncomfortable with the notion that someone has "earned the right" to never be fired.
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I am extremely uncomfortable with the notion that someone has "earned the right" to never be fired.
well, you are not the average k-state fan then
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Carnes, I can't imagine living a day in your shoes. Seems so depressing.
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I am extremely uncomfortable with the notion that someone has "earned the right" to never be fired.
Baring a scandal, he's earned it.
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Cartier, sometimes melting down is the best way to cope. Just give it a shot.
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I hope Snyder doesn't get "fired," because only one other coach who had a statue of himself outside the stadium while he was an acting coach has ever been fired, and that is not the distinction you want.
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The hope has to be that Snyder realizes when its time to leave and retires without waiting too long. Guys like Snyder don't get fired; see Paterno, Bowden, etc.
Today was not the year to do that (IMO), but it could be next year.
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The hope has to be that Snyder realizes when its time to leave and retires without waiting too long. Guys like Snyder don't get fired; see Paterno, Bowden, etc.
Today was not the year to do that (IMO), but it could be next year.
He won't retire unless he feels like Sean is going to take over, IMO. We're in a Bowden situation here.
I find it ironic that you mention those two names, and Bill was having a conversation with those specific two guys right around the time he retired the first time, and they told him not to do it.
Bill will be here until he's 80, if for no other reason than he wants his "family" to have a job at KSU.
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The hope has to be that Snyder realizes when its time to leave and retires without waiting too long. Guys like Snyder don't get fired; see Paterno, Bowden, etc.
Today was not the year to do that (IMO), but it could be next year.
He won't retire unless he feels like Sean is going to take over, IMO. We're in a Bowden situation here.
I find it ironic that you mention those two names, and Bill was having a conversation with those specific two guys right around the time he retired the first time, and they told him not to do it.
Bill will be here until he's 80, if for no other reason than he wants his "family" to have a job at KSU.
Things could get super interesting in a see-how-mediocre-we-can-become-without-firing-Bill way. I mean, no one will come work for him that has any real chance at becoming an elite coach because Sean. so, if this is what happens, we are in for a game of chicken between an AD who has had crazy success and has been looking for another job and the coach that 90% of fans believe has earned the right to burn it down at his whim.
What is going to happen is that he will out wait currie. currie will get his other gig in the next few yrs, Bill will become the AD, Sean the HC, then Bill will retire a yr or two later once he has a Sean friendly AD locked up.
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Bill would be the worst AD in the history of America, BTW.
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fans aren't really willing to let Snyder burn it down, it's just easy to say that after recent success. 2 years in a row of bad football and everyone will start getting pissed...even the tucks. they'll adopt a "thanks for everything but you have to go now" attitude. nobody wants to see a legend tarnish his own legacy.
the problem is it will probably take two consecutive years without a bowl game.
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The hope has to be that Snyder realizes when its time to leave and retires without waiting too long. Guys like Snyder don't get fired; see Paterno, Bowden, etc.
Today was not the year to do that (IMO), but it could be next year.
He won't retire unless he feels like Sean is going to take over, IMO. We're in a Bowden situation here.
I find it ironic that you mention those two names, and Bill was having a conversation with those specific two guys right around the time he retired the first time, and they told him not to do it.
Bill will be here until he's 80, if for no other reason than he wants his "family" to have a job at KSU.
Things could get super interesting in a see-how-mediocre-we-can-become-without-firing-Bill way. I mean, no one will come work for him that has any real chance at becoming an elite coach because Sean. so, if this is what happens, we are in for a game of chicken between an AD who has had crazy success and has been looking for another job and the coach that 90% of fans believe has earned the right to burn it down at his whim.
What is going to happen is that he will out wait currie. currie will get his other gig in the next few yrs, Bill will become the AD, Sean the HC, then Bill will retire a yr or two later once he has a Sean friendly AD locked up.
Bill won't become the AD. Schulz wouldn't go for that. Nor do I think he wants it.
Sean won't ever be the coach. I think Bill really knows that deep down. I firmly believe that Bill is still here because he brought all of these guys back, and now he can't leave because he has no one on his staff that is a no brainer to promote. Because of that, he knows he asked all of these guys to leave their decent gigs (Smith, Dimel, Joe Bob, etc.) to help him rebuild, and he knows that the second he steps down, they're all looking for jobs outside of KSU, including Sean. I think he urged Joe Bob and Smith to leave for that reason.
He's just going to hang out and play figurehead until the majority of them are ready to retire. Mo, Del, and Hayes will just walk out with him and hang it up. Dana may have a shot at coaching at a lower division school for a few years until he is ready. Seiler and Coleman got big breaks via KSU, so they're now set to continue coaching for the rest of their lives. The only guy that is really screwed is Sean. So, Bill is going to stay until his crew is taken care of, and then he'll go.
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The needs of the "many"
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I am extremely uncomfortable with the notion that someone has "earned the right" to never be fired.
Baring a scandal, he's earned it.
Nope. Denied. Cats football is not a pension plan.
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Snyder has earned the right to never be fired and he's also a terrific coach so we should hope Currie doesn't fire him.
And he's not going to ever get fired so keep talking about it if you'd like but it's never ever ever going to happen.
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he should of stepped down after last year and gone out "on top". if we don't make a bowl game this year he has to step down after this year otherwise it is going to end up looking exactly like 04 and 05.
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I don't know how anyone can argue that a conference championship shouldn't buy a coach five additional years. And seriously entertaining the idea that Snyder should be on a short leash is one of this site's biggest delusions.
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We will go to a bowl next season for sure and maybe this season
2014 will be his last season
If we are wildly successful maybe Sean
If we are moderately successful or not good then Sean will keep his current gig and Currie will hire someone like Houston Nutt or Jeff Tedford
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Guys like Snyder don't get fired; see Paterno, Bowden, etc.
I get your point but Bowden was forced out. He wasn't even given one final season
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I don't think Snyder should be fired, and I don't think he should be on a short leash. I just wish we had Gary Patterson. That's all.
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I love Snyder a lot, I'm just mad at him right now. I'm so mad at him.
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We will go to a bowl next season for sure and maybe this season
2014 will be his last season
If we are wildly successful maybe Sean
If we are moderately successful or not good then Sean will keep his current gig and Currie will hire someone like Houston Nutt or Jeff Tedford
:barf:eff THAT
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All of those thinking Snyder will be fired or should be fired are dorks. People would have Currie's head on a stick if that ever happened.
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All of those thinking Snyder will be fired or should be fired are dorks. People would have Currie's head on a stick if that ever happened.
No one is thinking that so shut up about it. Just shut up. I mean it.
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You got it _33
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You got it _33
If that was a little harsh I apologize. I'm just an emotional wreck right now.
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Bill won't become the AD. Schulz wouldn't go for that. Nor do I think he wants it.
Sean won't ever be the coach. I think Bill really knows that deep down. I firmly believe that Bill is still here because he brought all of these guys back, and now he can't leave because he has no one on his staff that is a no brainer to promote. Because of that, he knows he asked all of these guys to leave their decent gigs (Smith, Dimel, Joe Bob, etc.) to help him rebuild, and he knows that the second he steps down, they're all looking for jobs outside of KSU, including Sean. I think he urged Joe Bob and Smith to leave for that reason.
He's just going to hang out and play figurehead until the majority of them are ready to retire. Mo, Del, and Hayes will just walk out with him and hang it up. Dana may have a shot at coaching at a lower division school for a few years until he is ready. Seiler and Coleman got big breaks via KSU, so they're now set to continue coaching for the rest of their lives. The only guy that is really screwed is Sean. So, Bill is going to stay until his crew is taken care of, and then he'll go.
this. all of it. every word. I also don't think bill wants to be AD. he's smart enough to know he would suck at it.
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All of those thinking Snyder will be fired or should be fired are dorks. People would have Currie's head on a stick if that ever happened.
Oh man, can you imagine Snyder getting fired AND Currie's head on a stick?
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Quite a pickle
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All of those thinking Snyder will be fired or should be fired are dorks. People would have Currie's head on a stick if that ever happened.
Oh man, can you imagine Snyder getting fired AND Currie's head on a stick?
If someone can gif this, please have oscar walking his dog somewhere in it.
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Mowing beneath the stick
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Bill gets out coached every time a team has multiple weeks to game plan. Why?
Oklahoma had 2 weeks to game plan for us last year
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Bill gets out coached every time a team has multiple weeks to game plan. Why?
Oklahoma had 2 weeks to game plan for us last year
Big game Bob has the same problem too
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Bill gets out coached every time a team has multiple weeks to game plan. Why?
Oklahoma had 2 weeks to game plan for us last year
Big game Bob has the same problem too
Yeah LHC Bill Snyder and Bob Stoops. What a couple of losers!
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Bill gets out coached every time a team has multiple weeks to game plan. Why?
Oklahoma had 2 weeks to game plan for us last year
Big game Bob has the same problem too
Yeah LHC Bill Snyder and Bob Stoops. What a couple of losers!
I was talking about bowl games and season openers.
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I like Bill. Hopefully he gets the point across and we score 60+ the rest of the season.
well have to...our horrific defense will give up 60+ per game!
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I don't think Snyder should be fired, and I don't think he should be on a short leash. I just wish we had Gary Patterson. That's all.
Wherever did we get that idea? Perhaps was it your video linked on page 1 of this thread?
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I don't think Snyder should be fired, and I don't think he should be on a short leash. I just wish we had Gary Patterson. That's all.
Wherever did we get that idea? Perhaps was it your video linked on page 1 of this thread?
Out of context.
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I don't think Snyder should be fired, and I don't think he should be on a short leash. I just wish we had Gary Patterson. That's all.
Wherever did we get that idea? Perhaps was it your video linked on page 1 of this thread?
Out of context.
That video will be really useful in a few weeks
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I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
'My name is LHC Bill Snyder, coach of coaches:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away."
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Can everyone stop being colossal dumbasses please?
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lol @ tards falling for this old goEMAW schtick
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I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
'My name is LHC Bill Snyder, coach of coaches:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away."
Get him, Rick!
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:Lolrun: :)
Can everyone stop being colossal dumbasses please?
This thread is on point. Shut up.