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Title: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on August 27, 2013, 10:31:24 PM
I'm guessing this is pretty much what it'll look like for the most part...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkSjDzv13R8

Amazingly, the opening catch of the video is by TLBL's papa.

 :billdance: :bill:   :billdance:
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: kslim on August 27, 2013, 10:32:35 PM
I think ill wait until _fans blog comes out
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: ben ji on August 27, 2013, 10:37:12 PM
I had no idea we ran May that much(I was in elementary school)
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on August 27, 2013, 10:43:12 PM
I think ill wait until _fans blog comes out

good idea.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on August 27, 2013, 11:08:30 PM
Guise... I just can't help listen to old school "Voice of the Wildcats" Mitch Holthus voiceover work on this and be reminded of the parallels to this season...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7_BboJWxeY

Friday can't get here soon enough.

 :excited: :drool: :excited: :drool: :excited:
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: Stevesie60 on August 27, 2013, 11:26:19 PM
Got lost in a wormhole of watching mid-90's K-State clips. Hell, it looks like we used some form of a 2 QB system in '95 with Miller and Kavanaugh.
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: ben ji on August 27, 2013, 11:39:11 PM
Got lost in a wormhole of watching mid-90's K-State clips. Hell, it looks like we used some form of a 2 QB system in '95 with Miller and Kavanaugh.

Ditto, here is my last couple hours

Bookie link
95 highlights
2000 Nub game
Birth U2 version
K-state 2012 story, all 3 parts
KSU vs AM 2011
LHC Bill Snyder looks at crowd(after AM game)
Couple of poet warrior vids
Now watching 2011 miami, rise of klein
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on August 28, 2013, 12:08:27 AM
I had no idea we ran May that much(I was in elementary school)

Although JJ Smith was a bigger back than Hubert, our personnel offensively is so similar to the 93 & 94 teams, it'll make your head spin. 

Sorry about sending y'all down a worm hole... I did the same thing too.
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: 8manpick on August 28, 2013, 12:12:00 AM
Were we any good back then grampa?
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: kim carnes on August 28, 2013, 12:14:43 AM
Can u post a preview of what our defense will look like?  Is their footage from that 2010 Baylor game anywhere?
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: Tobias on August 28, 2013, 12:15:26 AM
Were we any good back then grampa?

i mean, crap.  clams wasn't even alive back then.
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: manpow5 on August 28, 2013, 12:22:08 AM
I'm guessing this is pretty much what it'll look like for the most part...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkSjDzv13R8

Amazingly, the opening catch of the video is by TLBL's papa.

 :billdance: :bill:   :billdance:

May to SCHWAGGER!!!!!    :excited:       :ksu:     :drool:    :emawkid:
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: Demo158 on August 28, 2013, 01:31:44 AM
Got lost in a wormhole of watching mid-90's K-State clips. Hell, it looks like we used some form of a 2 QB system in '95 with Miller and Kavanaugh.

Ditto, here is my last couple hours

Bookie link
95 highlights
2000 Nub game
Birth U2 version
K-state 2012 story, all 3 parts
KSU vs AM 2011
LHC Bill Snyder looks at crowd(after AM game)
Couple of poet warrior vids
Now watching 2011 miami, rise of klein
I was pretty much the same except with 97', 98', and 03' game-by-game highlights as well. Oh, and Erin Andrews doing the Wabash  :love:
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: HerrSonntag on August 28, 2013, 08:27:23 AM
I'm guessing this is pretty much what it'll look like for the most part...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkSjDzv13R8

Amazingly, the opening catch of the video is by TLBL's papa.

 :billdance: :bill:   :billdance:

I like how at the begining of the video, you see a bunch of young cats with no idea what K-State football has in store... or at least not enough of a clue to buy appropriatly colored outerwear for a MFn Kats game.
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: kso_FAN on August 28, 2013, 08:44:10 AM
I like how at the begining of the video, you see a bunch of young cats with no idea what K-State football has in store... or at least not enough of a clue to buy appropriatly colored outerwear for a MFn Kats game.

The choices for EMAW apparel in the early 90s were really bad. Plus, there were about 25 different shades/tints of purple sold. It wasn't until the late 90s that "K-State purple" became somewhat streamlined across clothing choices.
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: SEK_EMAW on August 28, 2013, 08:54:02 AM
That was my 1st semester at KSU.  Went to Ballard's and got a #94 Dirk Ochs jersey made. :ksu:  It still hangs in my closet.
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: 'taterblast on August 28, 2013, 09:09:17 AM
Chad May running the option:

http://youtu.be/MkSjDzv13R8?t=5m5s (http://youtu.be/MkSjDzv13R8?t=5m5s)
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 28, 2013, 09:11:01 AM
Great haircuts by the dance squad! Also, Mitch's announcing voice was much better back then before he got all raspy with his "TOUCHDOWN KANNNNNNSAAAAASSSS CITY!" thing he does.
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: 'taterblast on August 28, 2013, 09:13:57 AM
i miss those Mitch season recap vids
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on August 28, 2013, 09:37:42 AM
I like how at the begining of the video, you see a bunch of young cats with no idea what K-State football has in store... or at least not enough of a clue to buy appropriatly colored outerwear for a MFn Kats game.

The choices for EMAW apparel in the early 90s were really bad. Plus, there were about 25 different shades/tints of purple sold. It wasn't until the late 90s that "K-State purple" became somewhat streamlined across clothing choices.

Can confirm.

Semi-amazingly, it seems like it wasn't until the late 90's that the "powercat" logo truly caught on with the masses as well. 

Back on topic, I think Hubert gets draw plays this season than he has in the previous three combined.  Thoughts, _Fan?
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: Frankenklein on August 28, 2013, 09:41:02 AM
Found this in the wormhole  :horrorsurprise: maybe it belongs in the RP stories thread
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z1hEjoleS0
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: kso_FAN on August 28, 2013, 09:44:00 AM
Back on topic, I think Hubert gets draw plays this season than he has in the previous three combined.  Thoughts, _Fan?

Unclear.
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on August 28, 2013, 09:45:59 AM
Back on topic, I think Hubert gets draw plays this season than he has in the previous three combined.  Thoughts, _Fan?

Unclear.

Oops... My bad.  Meant to say: Hubert gets more draw plays called for him this season than he has in the previous three combined.

Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: Rams on August 28, 2013, 09:46:40 AM
I like how at the begining of the video, you see a bunch of young cats with no idea what K-State football has in store... or at least not enough of a clue to buy appropriatly colored outerwear for a MFn Kats game.

The choices for EMAW apparel in the early 90s were really bad. Plus, there were about 25 different shades/tints of purple sold. It wasn't until the late 90s that "K-State purple" became somewhat streamlined across clothing choices.
it's still really bad/annoying 
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: bubbles4ksu on August 28, 2013, 09:47:27 AM
bookie pimp is really sold on this new white QB's drop back passing ability. he also doesn't seem to think that ksu will do much zone blocking this season.
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on August 28, 2013, 10:00:12 AM
bookie pimp is really sold on this new white QB's drop back passing ability. he also doesn't seem to think that ksu will do much zone blocking this season.

People within the program have "sold" me on Jack Walter's passing ability, whether it's rolling out, drop back, or quick strike.  The kid has a gun and I, for one, am happy to have him.  I will be the first to admit that I was "Team Sams" all along with the mindset that if Walters beats him out, he's got a chance to be very special.

Where have you come up with the fact that I don't think we'll do much zone blocking?  That's a pretty big leap. 
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: Unruly on August 28, 2013, 10:01:58 AM
Quit calling him Jack Walters, JFC.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: bubbles4ksu on August 28, 2013, 10:03:28 AM
bookie pimp is really sold on this new white QB's drop back passing ability. he also doesn't seem to think that ksu will do much zone blocking this season.

People within the program have "sold" me on Jack Walter's passing ability, whether it's rolling out, drop back, or quick strike.  The kid has a gun and I, for one, am happy to have him.  I will be the first to admit that I was "Team Sams" all along with the mindset that if Walters beats him out, he's got a chance to be very special.

Where have you come up with the fact that I don't think we'll do much zone blocking?  That's a pretty big leap.
i'm very optimistic about waters as well, but the spread stuff we'll run isn't going to look like chad may and his 7 step drops.

i said that about the blocking because there isn't any zone blocking in the video that you said is a preview of the offense.
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: MadCat on August 28, 2013, 10:03:29 AM
Yakov Waderschmidt
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: kso_FAN on August 28, 2013, 10:09:46 AM
Back on topic, I think Hubert gets draw plays this season than he has in the previous three combined.  Thoughts, _Fan?

Unclear.

Oops... My bad.  Meant to say: Hubert gets more draw plays called for him this season than he has in the previous three combined.



Possibly. We ran less than 2-3 true RB draws last year off of drop back pass action (several QB draws, especially in empty sets). If we run more than 5 this year I'll be surprised. IMO RB draws are 90s football, modern spread offense allows for other stuff to attack aggressive DEs, namely read option. I expect if anything we'll see more read option with Waters and a lot less power football (and power option), especially with the QB.
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on August 28, 2013, 10:55:34 AM
Back on topic, I think Hubert gets draw plays this season than he has in the previous three combined.  Thoughts, _Fan?

Unclear.

Oops... My bad.  Meant to say: Hubert gets more draw plays called for him this season than he has in the previous three combined.



Possibly. We ran less than 2-3 true RB draws last year off of drop back pass action (several QB draws, especially in empty sets). If we run more than 5 this year I'll be surprised. IMO RB draws are 90s football, modern spread offense allows for other stuff to attack aggressive DEs, namely read option. I expect if anything we'll see more read option with Waters and a lot less power football (and power option), especially with the QB.

Fair assessment.  I agree completely, however I also see us running "draw-type" plays out of a pistol/shotgun look rather than off of drop back pass action.  I think we both understand that some blocking schemes will be slightly different simply based on the way modern defenses are set up and schemed now.

For those taking the comparo's completely literallly (as if it will be EXACTLY what's in the videos), you're missing the point.  I don't necessarily see Waters being under center as much as May was... Just that the route trees, hot routes, and passing game design will be more like that than what we've seen in the past 3-4 years.

This is Snyder's 5th year back and '93 was his 5th year in the program initially.  Couple that with the fact that is when our current WR coach had his breakout year and the parallels really start to add up.
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: Frankenklein on August 28, 2013, 11:01:02 AM
 Jakes got a 5 on his jersey too
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on August 28, 2013, 11:05:18 AM
Jakes got a 5 on his jersey too

 :kstatriot:
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: ksupamplemousse on August 28, 2013, 11:29:43 AM
Were we any good back then grampa?

:rolleyes: Jayhawk
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: SEK_EMAW on August 28, 2013, 11:48:20 AM
Hearing rumors that  :bill: is going to put the Cotton Bowl jacket back in the vault and bust this bad boy back out. 
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.k-state.edu%2Fmedia%2Fwebzine%2Fwefald%2Fwefaldsnyder.jpg&hash=040b69e1a8cd9f80bfbbc6d4f122d380da9b6e3e)
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: Trim on August 28, 2013, 11:51:07 AM
Nope, surprise me!
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: hemmy on August 28, 2013, 12:32:44 PM
Can u post a preview of what our defense will look like?  Is their footage from that 2010 Baylor game anywhere?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJQA1ZQ3Bec
Title: Re: Anybody want a preview of what to expect offensively this year?
Post by: eatsleepdrinkemaw on August 28, 2013, 12:46:05 PM
Just watched all of those highlights from the 94 season. Thought it was pretty neat that after we beat Oklahoma for the first time at their home since 1970, if you look at the scoreboard, they flash a the words "Please stay off the playing field"...hahaha...were they worried our fans would tear down the goal posts like we did at KU earlier that year?...hilarious