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@USATODAYsports: #CoachesPoll breakdown by conference: SEC (6) Big Ten (5) Pac-12 (5) Big 12 (4) ACC (2)
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Pre-season:
1 Alabama (58) 0-0 1545
2 Ohio State (3) 0-0 1427
3 Oregon 0-0 1397
4 Stanford 0-0 1262
5 Georgia 0-0 1250
6 Texas A&M (1) 0-0 1215
7 South Carolina 0-0 1136
8 Clemson 0-0 1047
9 Louisville 0-0 1010
10 Florida 0-0 930
11 Notre Dame 0-0 872
12 Florida State 0-0 844
13 LSU 0-0 797
14 Oklahoma State 0-0 726
15 Texas 0-0 622
16 Oklahoma 0-0 620
17 Michigan 0-0 589
18 Nebraska 0-0 426
19 Boise State 0-0 420
20 TCU 0-0 400
21 UCLA 0-0 202
22 Northwestern 0-0 186
23 Wisconsin 0-0 172
24 USC 0-0 165
25 Oregon State 0-0 135
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@USATODAYsports: #CoachesPoll breakdown by conference: SEC (6) Big Ten (5) Pac-12 (5) Big 12 (4) ACC (2)
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The eff. :shakesfist:
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Us and Baylor have legitimate gripes about this.
5 Big 10 teams? 5? Really? OK.
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Us and Baylor have legitimate gripes about this.
5 Big 10 teams? 5? Really? OK.
yeah, that's the lol one. ok big 10. ok. :lol:
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we're 26th.
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we're #26, guys. eat it baylor :ksu:
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wgaf
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wgaf
We should. Perception matters.
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Oh man. What will we be ranked the week of CTR/College Gameday?
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Oh man. What will we be ranked the week of CTR/College Gameday?
if we're undefeated? yeah.
And looking at the schedule...there's a very good chance gameday will be at our game. The only two games featuring two ranked teams will likely be KSU/UT and Notre Dame/Michigan State (on NBC).
Florida plays Tennessee, but Tennessee's hot garbage. Unless Tennessee shocks Oregon the week before, then they'll be way outside the top 25.
Auburn plays LSU. Auburn=sucks (sorry Chingon).
SMU at A&M?
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Start a thread about gameday Applejack. Call your shot!
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wgaf
We should. Perception matters.
meh
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wgaf
We should. Perception matters.
meh
meh to you, goodforyourmother!
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Thanks to Baylor, CTR last year would have been in MHK. Still another reason that Baylor game makes me :frown:
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wgaf
We should. Perception matters.
meh
meh to you, goodforyourmother!
whatever, dmeh12
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wgaf
We should. Perception matters.
meh
meh to you, goodforyourmother!
whatever, dmeh12
really enjoyed this banter
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also dont see gameday happening, we own texas so that game is very meh nationally and as espn has shown in recent years if there isnt a big match up they will throw a dart on the east coast and go to a rando game
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the pac-12 is super sucky.
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Us and Baylor have legitimate gripes about this.
5 Big 10 teams? 5? Really? OK.
yeah, that's the lol one. ok big 10. ok. :lol:
By week 3 there will be 1 Big 10 team left and everyone on ESPN will be saying "We didn't see this coming, but the Big 10 is having a down year"
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No respect.
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Us and Baylor have legitimate gripes about this.
5 Big 10 teams? 5? Really? OK.
yeah, that's the lol one. ok big 10. ok. :lol:
By week 3 there will be 1 Big 10 team left and everyone on ESPN will be saying "We didn't see this coming, but the Big 10 is having a down year"
how does KSUA have a gripe? you lost Klein and everyone on D
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northwestern :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Us and Baylor have legitimate gripes about this.
5 Big 10 teams? 5? Really? OK.
yeah, that's the lol one. ok big 10. ok. :lol:
lol more at the Pac
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Pac 12 is going to be better this season. Oregon, Stanford, UCLA are all good. Oregon State and Arizona St will be ok.
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northwestern :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
10-3 last yr and the return alot, don't see your point.
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Pac 12 is going to be better this season. Oregon, Stanford, UCLA are all good. Oregon State and Arizona St will be ok.
Pretty meh on oregon this season
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If there is a gripe it's putting 5 SEC teams in the top 10. Self fulfilling prophecy all year long. They are not that good but will be ranked as though they are due to their scheduling. Alabama and A&M's conf schedules are embarassing.
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If there is a gripe it's putting 5 SEC teams in the top 10. Self fulfilling prophecy all year long. They are not that good but will be ranked as though they are due to their scheduling. Alabama and A&M's conf schedules are embarassing.
Is this the year they :flush:?
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northwestern :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
10-3 last yr and the return alot, don't see your point.
ya ok
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If there is a gripe it's putting 5 SEC teams in the top 10. Self fulfilling prophecy all year long. They are not that good but will be ranked as though they are due to their scheduling. Alabama and A&M's conf schedules are embarassing.
Agreed, Zacker. The winner of the Bama A&M game basically has a cakewalk to a number one ranking and a date with Georgia/Florida in the SEC championship game where the winner gets to go to the NC.
But wow, yeah, that tough SEC schedule.
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is this the rankings thread for the year?
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is this the rankings thread for the year?
yeah. grab a drink. make yourself comfortable.
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If there is a gripe it's putting 5 SEC teams in the top 10. Self fulfilling prophecy all year long. They are not that good but will be ranked as though they are due to their scheduling. Alabama and A&M's conf schedules are embarassing.
Agreed, Zacker. The winner of the Bama A&M game basically has a cakewalk to a number one ranking and a date with Georgia/Florida in the SEC championship game where the winner gets to go to the NC.
But wow, yeah, that tough SEC schedule.
Alabama plays @A&M and LSU (a month and a half apart).
A&M plays Alabama and @LSU (a month and a half apart).
South Carolina plays @ UGA and Florida (at the beginning end of the season).
Florida plays @LSU, UGA (neutral), and @ an overrated So. Carolina (all two weeks apart from each other)
Georgia plays overrated So. Carolina, LSU, Florida (neutral).
Even if they split their “tough” games, they’ll still hang around the top 10. If they lose both their tough games, they hang around the top 12. For no other reason than they were (a) ranked high to begin with and (b) the remaining 8 teams in the SEC are horrible.
LSU on the other hand, has @UGA, Florida, @Alabama, and A&M. they will have deserved it.
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is this the rankings thread for the year?
yeah. grab a drink. make yourself comfortable.
sounds good, :cheers:
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Would smash at least half that list.
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K-State's defense this year is a pretty big question mark. Otherwise, K-State would easily be top 25.
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Even with a questionable D, our O is going to be unbelievable. Would smash two thirds of that list.
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they do this every year with SEC teams. I already know what is going to happen, Alabama will lose at some point and drop to 3-5 range. then the teams ranked ahead of them will lose late in the season and Bama will wiggle their way into the title game again.
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Oregon won't be as good this year as last. Lost a lot on defense and Kelly called all plays/ran offense. New former OC hasn't done much of anything other than watch Kelly work his magic.
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This list sucks
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What was the SEC's record in bowl games last year?
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Northwestern and Wiscy pre-season ranked? :jerk:
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If there is a gripe it's putting 5 SEC teams in the top 10. Self fulfilling prophecy all year long. They are not that good but will be ranked as though they are due to their scheduling. Alabama and A&M's conf schedules are embarassing.
Agreed, Zacker. The winner of the Bama A&M game basically has a cakewalk to a number one ranking and a date with Georgia/Florida in the SEC championship game where the winner gets to go to the NC.
But wow, yeah, that tough SEC schedule.
Alabama plays @A&M and LSU (a month and a half apart).
A&M plays Alabama and @LSU (a month and a half apart).
South Carolina plays @ UGA and Florida (at the beginning end of the season).
Florida plays @LSU, UGA (neutral), and @ an overrated So. Carolina (all two weeks apart from each other)
Georgia plays overrated So. Carolina, LSU, Florida (neutral).
Even if they split their “tough” games, they’ll still hang around the top 10. If they lose both their tough games, they hang around the top 12. For no other reason than they were (a) ranked high to begin with and (b) the remaining 8 teams in the SEC are horrible.
LSU on the other hand, has @UGA, Florida, @Alabama, and A&M. they will have deserved it.
I am positive the SEC conference run analytics on schedules to give their elite teams the best chance to play in the NCG.
Their schedules are designed to be easy and have stretches of puds to stay healthy.
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Northwestern and Wiscy pre-season ranked? :jerk:
like I said, NW went 10-3 last year and they return alot. why shouldn't they be ranked?
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Northwestern and Wiscy pre-season ranked? :jerk:
i have no beef with NW being ranked.
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Northwestern and Wiscy pre-season ranked? :jerk:
Miami receiving votes :jerk:
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If there is a gripe it's putting 5 SEC teams in the top 10. Self fulfilling prophecy all year long. They are not that good but will be ranked as though they are due to their scheduling. Alabama and A&M's conf schedules are embarassing.
Agreed, Zacker. The winner of the Bama A&M game basically has a cakewalk to a number one ranking and a date with Georgia/Florida in the SEC championship game where the winner gets to go to the NC.
But wow, yeah, that tough SEC schedule.
Alabama plays @A&M and LSU (a month and a half apart).
A&M plays Alabama and @LSU (a month and a half apart).
South Carolina plays @ UGA and Florida (at the beginning end of the season).
Florida plays @LSU, UGA (neutral), and @ an overrated So. Carolina (all two weeks apart from each other)
Georgia plays overrated So. Carolina, LSU, Florida (neutral).
Even if they split their “tough” games, they’ll still hang around the top 10. If they lose both their tough games, they hang around the top 12. For no other reason than they were (a) ranked high to begin with and (b) the remaining 8 teams in the SEC are horrible.
LSU on the other hand, has @UGA, Florida, @Alabama, and A&M. they will have deserved it.
I am positive the SEC conference run analytics on schedules to give their elite teams the best chance to play in the NCG.
Their schedules are designed to be easy and have stretches of puds to stay healthy.
As they should, and as should every other major conference.
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Hi, guys! Is this the rankings thread or the chip on shoulder thread? I didn't check before I clicked on the link.
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where are we (opinions of the great minds here) going to be ranked by the media?
gonna say 21
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every rankings thread turns into a chip on the shoulder thread when kstate fans are involved
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I'm doing that thingy that Harp did where he ate soup out of his imaginary bowl except they're chips that are on my shoulder. :curse:
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where are we (opinions of the great minds here) going to be ranked by the media?
gonna say 21
"also receiving votes"
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Oregon won't be as good this year as last. Lost a lot on defense and Kelly called all plays/ran offense. New former OC hasn't done much of anything other than watch Kelly work his magic.
oregon state beavs tho
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I am positive the SEC conference run analytics on schedules to give their elite teams the best chance to play in the NCG.
Their schedules are designed to be easy and have stretches of puds to stay healthy.
LSU may be the only thing that can stop another All SEC title game in the national title game - there are almost no other losable games on A&M or Bama's schedule
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Oregon won't be as good this year as last. Lost a lot on defense and Kelly called all plays/ran offense. New former OC hasn't done much of anything other than watch Kelly work his magic.
oregon state beavs tho
Did they finish the year with the backup QB last year and the starter will be back?
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Northwestern and Wiscy pre-season ranked? :jerk:
Add USC to that list.
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I'm doing that thingy that Harp did where he ate soup out of his imaginary bowl except they're chips that are on my shoulder. :curse:
He wasn't eating soup :facepalm:
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I'm doing that thingy that Harp did where he ate soup out of his imaginary bowl except they're chips that are on my shoulder. :curse:
He wasn't eating soup :facepalm:
Obviously biscuits and sausage gravy.
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is it absolute bullshit that we aren't ranked in the top 10? indubitably, I feel.
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is it absolute bullshit that we aren't ranked in the top 10? indubitably, I feel.
biggest snub job since we got left out in 2006.
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One of my favorite writers, Drew Magary from Deadspin, wrote this yesterday about preseason rankings. I think he does a good job of concisely explaining why perception matters. The first part is a question from a reader:
Q: Is there anything worse in the entirety of sports than college football's preseason rankings? It's an excuse for writers to jack off high profile teams without having to justify it with what those teams have actually done on the field, and it becomes it's own weird circular logic. Teams get ranked highly because they're perceived as good, and being ranked highly causes them to be perceived as good. Also there are no consequences for them being wrong. When Michigan lost to Appalachian State, the story was "WHAT AN INCREDIBLE UPSET", not "Wow, Michigan kind of sucks, maybe we shouldn't have put them in the top 5"
eff preseason rankings
A: The worst part is that, if you're ranked too low, you basically have to dig out of them. Being perceived as good means you basically get a head start in the race for the title, and any losses are more likely to be forgiven. But you happen to be an awesome football team NOT named Alabama and you're ranked #25, you have to pray that everyone else loses, and you can't lose yourself because a #1 team losing is a fluke, and a #25 team losing is a form of validation.
The playoff that CFB is planning is perfect because it'll have a compelling playoff and an undisputed champ, but it'll be exclusive enough that we can all still complain about the thing in CFB that we like complaining about. Yesterday 3:31pm
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Northwestern and Wiscy pre-season ranked? :jerk:
Add USC to that list.
And Nebraska. Lost 70-0 in your championship game last year, then go BLOWN THE eff OUT against Georgia? Top 20 team next season!
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I don't get why there even are rankings before like game 4 or 5 of the season.
I mean, other than hype, story lines, etc. It is stupid to me that teams gain advantage in the actual outcome of the season due to the hype machine that has been created to increase rev.
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Oregon won't be as good this year as last. Lost a lot on defense and Kelly called all plays/ran offense. New former OC hasn't done much of anything other than watch Kelly work his magic.
oregon state beavs tho
Did they finish the year with the backup QB last year and the starter will be back?
Yep, both guys will be back next year. Their best player is on the d-line, though.
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Oregon won't be as good this year as last. Lost a lot on defense and Kelly called all plays/ran offense. New former OC hasn't done much of anything other than watch Kelly work his magic.
oregon state beavs tho
Did they finish the year with the backup QB last year and the starter will be back?
Yep, both guys will be back next year. Their best player is on the d-line, though.
Jordan Poyer is gone, Will hurt in the P12 with the west coast pass happy offenses.
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Oregon won't be as good this year as last. Lost a lot on defense and Kelly called all plays/ran offense. New former OC hasn't done much of anything other than watch Kelly work his magic.
oregon state beavs tho
Did they finish the year with the backup QB last year and the starter will be back?
Yep, both guys will be back next year. Their best player is on the d-line, though.
Riley is to DITR Pro style QBs what OB is to Dual Threat QBs
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Missed this before I started my thread. TCU will take care of LSU for the Big IIX
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Missed this before I started my thread. TCU will take care of LSU for the Big IIX
I sure hope so...is fields out for this game?
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Missed this before I started my thread. TCU will take care of LSU for the Big IIX
I sure hope so...is fields out for this game?
Yes, team rules violation. That sucks, but the defense isn't what I'm worried about with going into that game. We have to score points to win that game and that's where the difficulty is when you play LSU.