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A free market would work just fine, but I'd be fine taking subsidies away from farmers and stuff.
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and i grow it!!!!
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:kstategrad:
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corn prices way down. right in the corn producers' fat faces.
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corn prices way down. right it the corn producers' fat faces.
Yeah, with the projected mega crop and weather cooperating so far, it will be interesting to see corn prices over the next few months.
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Farmers are the most hypocritical people in america. Next would be congress.
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Farmers are the most hypocritical people in america. Next would be congress.
Denied. Congress wins this one.
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I know for a fact you take more than a wheelbarrow to Washington. :driving:
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Farmers are the biggest beneficiary of food stamps. It's baffling to me that a group of people whose livelihood is so tied to grain prices doesn't see the benefit of a program that buys food for about 15% of the nation.
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does this mean that beef will become cheaper???
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Farmers are the biggest beneficiary of food stamps. It's baffling to me that a group of people whose livelihood is so tied to grain prices doesn't see the benefit of a program that buys food for about 15% of the nation.
Well is it better for the money to go directly to them (farmers) or get to them eventually after several inefficiencies?
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Farmers are the biggest beneficiary of food stamps. It's baffling to me that a group of people whose livelihood is so tied to grain prices doesn't see the benefit of a program that buys food for about 15% of the nation.
Well is it better for the money to go directly to them (farmers) or get to them eventually after several inefficiencies?
The most direct way to get money to farmers is to artificially inflate grain prices by reducing the cost, thereby increasing the demand for food among poor people. The half of the bill that goes to farmers only subsidizes failed crops and efficiency upgrades.
I personally support all aspects of the farm bill. I think it's great that congress realizes the importance of agriculture to the US economy and works to inflate grain prices and supply to the point that no other country can compete with us.
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Farmers are the biggest beneficiary of food stamps. It's baffling to me that a group of people whose livelihood is so tied to grain prices doesn't see the benefit of a program that buys food for about 15% of the nation.
Well is it better for the money to go directly to them (farmers) or get to them eventually after several inefficiencies?
The most direct way to get money to farmers is to artificially inflate grain prices by reducing the cost, thereby increasing the demand for food among poor people. The half of the bill that goes to farmers only subsidizes failed crops and efficiency upgrades.
I personally support all aspects of the farm bill. I think it's great that congress realizes the importance of agriculture to the US economy and works to inflate grain prices and supply to the point that no other country can compete with us.
did OPEC or the USDA perfect this first?
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Farmers are the biggest beneficiary of food stamps. It's baffling to me that a group of people whose livelihood is so tied to grain prices doesn't see the benefit of a program that buys food for about 15% of the nation.
Well is it better for the money to go directly to them (farmers) or get to them eventually after several inefficiencies?
The most direct way to get money to farmers is to artificially inflate grain prices by reducing the cost, thereby increasing the demand for food among poor people. The half of the bill that goes to farmers only subsidizes failed crops and efficiency upgrades.
I personally support all aspects of the farm bill. I think it's great that congress realizes the importance of agriculture to the US economy and works to inflate grain prices and supply to the point that no other country can compete with us.
I think you're underselling efficiency upgrades. Also, plenty of subsidies out there that benefit the public and not just the farmer.
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Guyz, I cant wait until like 25 years from now when I inherit like 1/9th of my grandparents farmland from my dad.
I'ma celebrate by buying a brand new F-250 and driving it out to Western KS where I will visit all the local Co-op's and see which yeoman farmer wants to rent it from me. I'll be sure to dress in some John Currie inspired outfit so that I fit in and all the stupid farmers think I'm one of them.
Then when the crop fails because I got the crap land that doesnt have any irrigation i'll say o well and have Sasha write me a fat subsidy check.
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Guyz, I cant wait until like 25 years from now when I inherit like 1/9th of my grandparents farmland from my dad.
I'ma celebrate by buying a brand new F-250 and driving it out to Western KS where I will visit all the local Co-op's and see which yeoman farmer wants to rent it from me. I'll be sure to dress in some John Currie inspired outfit so that I fit in and all the stupid farmers think I'm one of them.
Then when the crop fails because I got the crap land that doesnt have any irrigation i'll say o well and have Sasha write me a fat subsidy check.
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Solid farm plan, bj
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Inflated grain prices suck
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Inflated grain prices suck
Maybe if you hate America they do.
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So just how insanely awesome are 'merica's crops going to be this year? all this rain and no extended dry spells? Seems like even an indiot subsidized farmer could grow a bunch this year.
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Long ways till November, friend.
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Long ways till November, friend.
That it is, but everything out of the USDA so far has been nothing but positive. It would take some pretty special weather to really screw this up (although flooding may become a concern if these rains continue). Really could be a record setting crop.
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Well you know the saying, don't fertilize the chicken eggs before you put them in the fryer, or whatever.
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One thing that is ridiculous is the drastic cuts in the acreage available for the CRP program. Grain prices have risen over the years, but the CRP subsidies can't keep pace, and farmers are putting marginal lands into production. If this keeps up we'll see another dust bowl in our lifetime.
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One thing that is ridiculous is the drastic cuts in the acreage available for the CRP program. Grain prices have risen over the years, but the CRP subsidies can't keep pace, and farmers are putting marginal lands into production. If this keeps up we'll see another dust bowl in our lifetime.
That is a stretch. Also, this bumper crop will hurt the idiot farmers. The idiot farmers sell across the scales and don't forward contract. The rich will get richer (read: sd's dad).
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One thing that is ridiculous is the drastic cuts in the acreage available for the CRP program. Grain prices have risen over the years, but the CRP subsidies can't keep pace, and farmers are putting marginal lands into production. If this keeps up we'll see another dust bowl in our lifetime.
all of our CRP that was up for renewal made it in
:billdance:
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One thing that is ridiculous is the drastic cuts in the acreage available for the CRP program. Grain prices have risen over the years, but the CRP subsidies can't keep pace, and farmers are putting marginal lands into production. If this keeps up we'll see another dust bowl in our lifetime.
That is a stretch. Also, this bumper crop will hurt the idiot farmers. The idiot farmers sell across the scales and don't forward contract. The rich will get richer (read: sd's dad).
How is it a stretch? More and more ground being farmed, less water than before, similar (non-existent) soil conservation practices. Could happen.
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I hear no-till is the wave of the future. What do all of you sod-busters think?
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does this mean that beef will become cheaper???
Bacon is up like a [redacted]!
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One thing that is ridiculous is the drastic cuts in the acreage available for the CRP program. Grain prices have risen over the years, but the CRP subsidies can't keep pace, and farmers are putting marginal lands into production. If this keeps up we'll see another dust bowl in our lifetime.
That is a stretch. Also, this bumper crop will hurt the idiot farmers. The idiot farmers sell across the scales and don't forward contract. The rich will get richer (read: sd's dad).
How is it a stretch? More and more ground being farmed, less water than before, similar (non-existent) soil conservation practices. Could happen.
Minimum-till
No-till
Strip-till
Ridge-till
Fallow cropping
Narrow row planting
Chemical fallow
Inter-row cropping
Conservation buffers
Also, I haven't seen a plowed field in probably 25 years. The plow was probably the single largest man made contribution to the dust bowl. Farming marginal ground was a distant also ran.
Edit: Added Ridge-till
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I could see how low grain prices would influence cattle growers to increase the size of their herd, but I think it will take some time for us to see the benefit of lower-priced beef at the store.
This is just a wild guess, though.
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I hear no-till is the wave of the future. What do all of you sod-busters think?
We started no-till farming in the 80's. I actually think the continual adaptations on tillage will land us very firmly in a minimum/strip tillage environment.
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I could see how low grain prices would influence cattle growers to increase the size of their herd, but I think it will take some time for us to see the benefit of lower-priced beef at the store.
This is just a wild guess, though.
Not a wild guess. Cheap abundant feed always increases cattle production.
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They still plow down by the Oklahoma border. But less and less every year. LOL @ saying tillage and soil conservation hasn't changed since the dust bowl.
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They still plow down by the Oklahoma border. But less and less every year. LOL @ saying tillage and soil conservation hasn't changed since the dust bowl.
Yeah, 25 years is an exaggeration. People still plow up their terraces (for soil conservation) and there are still some wheat farmers that think they have to turn it under (idiot farmers who like to burn diesel).
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I could see how low grain prices would influence cattle growers to increase the size of their herd, but I think it will take some time for us to see the benefit of lower-priced beef at the store.
This is just a wild guess, though.
Not a wild guess. Cheap abundant feed always increases cattle production.
herds are way down though. and people will have to think about saving/buying a bunch of heifers to build back up. maybe you'll see more dairy steers raised, but i don't know if feed is that cheap yet.
another thing to consider, if the above speculation about marginal land being planted is correct, grazing land is probably down and more expensive.
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I could see how low grain prices would influence cattle growers to increase the size of their herd, but I think it will take some time for us to see the benefit of lower-priced beef at the store.
This is just a wild guess, though.
Not a wild guess. Cheap abundant feed always increases cattle production.
herds are way down though. and people will have to think about saving/buying a bunch of heifers to build back up. maybe you'll see more dairy steers raised, but i don't know if feed is that cheap yet.
another thing to consider, if the above speculation about marginal land being planted is correct, grazing land is probably down and more expensive.
Yeah, it will take some time. Also, hay prices are pretty high in some areas. Probably need an ag econ type in here to tell us what the models say.
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I don't understand a damn word of this thread :frown:
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One thing that is ridiculous is the drastic cuts in the acreage available for the CRP program. Grain prices have risen over the years, but the CRP subsidies can't keep pace, and farmers are putting marginal lands into production. If this keeps up we'll see another dust bowl in our lifetime.
That is a stretch. Also, this bumper crop will hurt the idiot farmers. The idiot farmers sell across the scales and don't forward contract. The rich will get richer (read: sd's dad).
How is it a stretch? More and more ground being farmed, less water than before, similar (non-existent) soil conservation practices. Could happen.
Minimum-till
No-till
Strip-till
Ridge-till
Fallow cropping
Narrow row planting
Chemical fallow
Inter-row cropping
Conservation buffers
Also, I haven't seen a plowed field in probably 25 years. The plow was probably the single largest man made contribution to the dust bowl. Farming marginal ground was a distant also ran.
Edit: Added Ridge-till
Thank you dobs for letting me troll you into posting instances where subsidies DIRECTLY to farmers (as part of the Farm Bill) have been beneficial. I apologize for using you as my pawn. My work here is done.
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I don't understand a damn word of this thread :frown:
You and me both. No idea what these hayseeds are talking about
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One thing that is ridiculous is the drastic cuts in the acreage available for the CRP program. Grain prices have risen over the years, but the CRP subsidies can't keep pace, and farmers are putting marginal lands into production. If this keeps up we'll see another dust bowl in our lifetime.
That is a stretch. Also, this bumper crop will hurt the idiot farmers. The idiot farmers sell across the scales and don't forward contract. The rich will get richer (read: sd's dad).
How is it a stretch? More and more ground being farmed, less water than before, similar (non-existent) soil conservation practices. Could happen.
Minimum-till
No-till
Strip-till
Ridge-till
Fallow cropping
Narrow row planting
Chemical fallow
Inter-row cropping
Conservation buffers
Also, I haven't seen a plowed field in probably 25 years. The plow was probably the single largest man made contribution to the dust bowl. Farming marginal ground was a distant also ran.
Edit: Added Ridge-till
Thank you dobs for letting me troll you into posting instances where subsidies DIRECTLY to farmers (as part of the Farm Bill) have been beneficial. I apologize for using you as my pawn. My work here is done.
Emo just Keyser Soze'd all of us up in this mother rough rider.
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The recent widespread rains the last 3 months have helped future cattle numbers more than lower corn prices. Back in January, the cattle inventory in the US was the lowest since 1952. It will take some time (2-3 years probs with prime conditions) to increase numbers. With the ridiculously high prices that replacement heifers are at currently, it looks like the majority of ranchers/hayseeds are optimistic.
Most feedlots in Texas/Oklahoma panhandle are half-full, and Cargill idled their Plainview, TX facility back in February. And IMO there's a record number of Holsteins/dairy cattle being used as fats, which further illustrates how strained the meat market is.
Good thing us EMAWers are :kstategrad:
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good info, emawican. thanks.
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One thing that is ridiculous is the drastic cuts in the acreage available for the CRP program. Grain prices have risen over the years, but the CRP subsidies can't keep pace, and farmers are putting marginal lands into production. If this keeps up we'll see another dust bowl in our lifetime.
That is a stretch. Also, this bumper crop will hurt the idiot farmers. The idiot farmers sell across the scales and don't forward contract. The rich will get richer (read: sd's dad).
How is it a stretch? More and more ground being farmed, less water than before, similar (non-existent) soil conservation practices. Could happen.
Minimum-till
No-till
Strip-till
Ridge-till
Fallow cropping
Narrow row planting
Chemical fallow
Inter-row cropping
Conservation buffers
Also, I haven't seen a plowed field in probably 25 years. The plow was probably the single largest man made contribution to the dust bowl. Farming marginal ground was a distant also ran.
Edit: Added Ridge-till
Thank you dobs for letting me troll you into posting instances where subsidies DIRECTLY to farmers (as part of the Farm Bill) have been beneficial. I apologize for using you as my pawn. My work here is done.
Wait, what just happened? Have I ever said that all farm subsidies are bad? Also, farm subsidies are not responsible for all of the conservation measures I mentioned, or is that part of your elaborate scheme and I am continuing to play right into your hand?
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I don't understand a damn word of this thread :frown:
I love farmer talk. Big time
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I don't understand a damn word of this thread :frown:
I love farmer talk. Big time
It's really great, because even if you know next to nothing, you can listen and follow along on a deep farmer conversation between two really intelligent farmers. Can you do that when two brain surgeons are talking to each other about brain surgeony stuff? Nope. Farmers 1, Brain Surgeons 0.
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Well I can't find the thread so I'm just going to post this anecdote here.
This past weekend while hunting quail down in SE KS, this dude was telling me how he has pecan trees and only has them for the crop insurance. This is his 5th year with them and he's profited on the insurance the first 4 years because they never made pecans. But this year he's annoyed because the trees did make pecans and now the insurance folks are going to make him pick them up, so he has to scramble to find machinery to do this. These guys are all EMAJ of course. Despicable.
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Well I can't find the thread so I'm just going to post this anecdote here.
This past weekend while hunting quail down in SE KS, this dude was telling me how he has pecan trees and only has them for the crop insurance. This is his 5th year with them and he's profited on the insurance the first 4 years because they never made pecans. But this year he's annoyed because the trees did make pecans and now the insurance folks are going to make him pick them up, so he has to scramble to find machinery to do this. These guys are all EMAJ of course. Despicable.
That guy sounds like a huge dumbass.
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Well I can't find the thread so I'm just going to post this anecdote here.
This past weekend while hunting quail down in SE KS, this dude was telling me how he has pecan trees and only has them for the crop insurance. This is his 5th year with them and he's profited on the insurance the first 4 years because they never made pecans. But this year he's annoyed because the trees did make pecans and now the insurance folks are going to make him pick them up, so he has to scramble to find machinery to do this. These guys are all EMAJ of course. Despicable.
That guy sounds like a huge dumbass.
I picked pecans on my grandpa's farm in the SEK when I was little, but only a couple pounds, and he didn't take insurance out on them
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Welp, all of Kansas representatives voted no on the farm bill that passed through the house. They hate farmers, let's get 'em :angry:
A good political move though, they can say they voted no because it didn't cut spending enough, but still get their cake since it passed, but will the Senate and pres approve? :nervous:
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Welp, all of Kansas representatives voted no on the farm bill that passed through the house. They hate farmers, let's get 'em :angry:
A good political move though, they can say they voted no because it didn't cut spending enough, but still get their cake since it passed, but will the Senate and pres approve? :nervous:
Even 2/3 of Nebraska's reps voted for it, good job voting SD!
Maybe this should go in the shame yourself thread, but I'm kinda jealous of Iowa's politics, I mean they're pretty much split 50/50 dems and repubs, plus they get to do the cool caucus thing and get tons of attention from super important future president types. Brag: i shook Obama's hand in the county fairgrounds show arena where my parents live when he was campaigning in 08, also participated in the caucus :gocho:
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Welp, all of Kansas representatives voted no on the farm bill that passed through the house. They hate farmers, let's get 'em :angry:
A good political move though, they can say they voted no because it didn't cut spending enough, but still get their cake since it passed, but will the Senate and pres approve? :nervous:
Even 2/3 of Nebraska's reps voted for it, good job voting SD!
Maybe this should go in the shame yourself thread, but I'm kinda jealous of Iowa's politics, I mean they're pretty much split 50/50 dems and repubs, plus they get to do the cool caucus thing and get tons of attention from super important future president types. Brag: i shook Obama's hand in the county fairgrounds show arena where my parents live when he was campaigning in 08, also participated in the caucus :gocho:
Agreed. It's a shame that Kansas has become the backwards tea party state, while Iowa's the cool, moderate midwesterner.
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I don't think the farm bill is really about farming anymore.
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I don't think the farm bill is really about farming anymore.
I think it's all about subsidizing both the supply and demand side of farming.
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I don't think the farm bill is really about farming anymore.
I think it's all about unfairly and illogically subsidizing both the supply and demand side of farming.
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What a perfect example of bipartisan waste and GOP "small government" hypocrisy.
Here's a must-read: So God Made a Farm Bill (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303973704579353064008442176?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702303973704579353064008442176.html)
But hey, food stamp spending was cut a whopping 1% percent! :Woot:
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What a perfect example of bipartisan waste and GOP "small government" hypocrisy.
Here's a must-read: So God Made a Farm Bill (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303973704579353064008442176?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702303973704579353064008442176.html)
But hey, food stamp spending was cut a whopping 1% percent! :Woot:
:shakesfist:
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I don't think the farm bill is really about farming anymore.
I think it's all about unfairly and illogically subsidizing both the supply and demand side of farming.
Unfair, sure. There is nothing illogical about it, though.
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What a perfect example of bipartisan waste and GOP "small government" hypocrisy.
Here's a must-read: So God Made a Farm Bill (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303973704579353064008442176?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702303973704579353064008442176.html)
But hey, food stamp spending was cut a whopping 1% percent! :Woot:
Can you copy/paste that for us non-subscribers?
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I don't think the farm bill is really about farming anymore.
I think it's all about unfairly and illogically subsidizing both the supply and demand side of farming.
Unfair, sure. There is nothing illogical about it, though.
It's illogical to subsidize no-till when someone can double crop with beans and mow it flat.
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I don't think the farm bill is really about farming anymore.
I think it's all about unfairly and illogically subsidizing both the supply and demand side of farming.
Unfair, sure. There is nothing illogical about it, though.
It's illogical to subsidize no-till when someone can double crop with beans and mow it flat.
Isn't the no-till farming better for soil erosion and moisture retention?
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I don't think the farm bill is really about farming anymore.
I think it's all about unfairly and illogically subsidizing both the supply and demand side of farming.
Unfair, sure. There is nothing illogical about it, though.
It's illogical to subsidize no-till when someone can double crop with beans and mow it flat.
Isn't the no-till farming better for soil erosion and moisture retention?
It absolutely is but not when you end up mowing the beans flat anyway.
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I don't think the farm bill is really about farming anymore.
I think it's all about unfairly and illogically subsidizing both the supply and demand side of farming.
Unfair, sure. There is nothing illogical about it, though.
It's illogical to subsidize no-till when someone can double crop with beans and mow it flat.
Isn't the no-till farming better for soil erosion and moisture retention?
It absolutely is but not when you end up mowing the beans flat anyway.
If you mow the beans flat, it is still better for soil erosion and moisture retention vs tilling the soil. Additional benefits are in weed (NOT THAT KIND OF WEED) control, but these benefits are not always shown in year one or two.
Here is fun fact: Weed seed can live in the soil for years without germinating and then, when the conditions are right, still be viable. At one small town KS football field, the small hill (bump, really) where the score board stood for years was bulldozed flat for the addition of a new scoreboard. After bulldozing, cocklebur seed that had been buried in the ground for over 30 years still germinated. KSU Weed scientist found that the germination rate of this cocklebur seed was nearly 80%
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What a perfect example of bipartisan waste and GOP "small government" hypocrisy.
Here's a must-read: So God Made a Farm Bill (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303973704579353064008442176?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702303973704579353064008442176.html)
But hey, food stamp spending was cut a whopping 1% percent! :Woot:
Can you copy/paste that for us non-subscribers?
(With apologies to the late radio great Paul Harvey. )
And on the eighth day, God looked down on his planned paradise and said, "I need a caretaker." So God made a farmer.
God said, "I need somebody willing to get up before dawn, milk cows, work all day in the fields, milk cows again, and then go to Washington and claim that this particular type of hard work is somehow unique in America and ought to be underwritten by the rest of the nation. I need a willing audience for that plea—a group clever enough and self-serving enough to see the electoral profit of standing for Carhartts, wheat fields and John Deere tractors." So God made a Congress.
He said, "I need somebody in that Congress savvy enough to realize that farming means food, and food means nutrition, and nutrition means good things to voters, so farming means food stamps. Somebody to call to make that assistance bigger and forever, tame howls over soaring deficits, and plant the seeds of perpetual votes. Somebody to threaten to label anybody pushing for reform as rich, cruel and downright hateful of happy, cornfed children playing in hay lofts—and mean it." So God made a Democratic Party.
God said, "I need somebody willing to spend five long years complaining about overspending, big government and special-interest giveaways. And get up and vote for $1 trillion in overspending, bigger government and special-interest giveaways—in the name of farmers. Then—when reminded of his reform promises—dry his eyes and say, 'Maybe next year.' I need somebody to fret about drought, wax about food security, and muse (in private) that heedless government shutdowns really do have consequences. Including pressuring parties to prove they can accomplish something by voting for 949-page spending extravaganzas that nobody has bothered to read. Somebody willing to put in 40 hours spinning excuses for abandoning his principles and then, pained from the camera lights, put in 70 hours more." So God made Republicans.
God had to have Democrats and Republicans willing to cast aside their differences in the name of handouts, and bale a legislative vehicle together with the strong bonds of self-interest. A vehicle that would combine food stamps and farm pork and thereby guarantee a coalition so powerful that it could mow over procedural ruts, race ahead of political rain and hogtie pesky opponents. A vehicle so unstoppable that its creators would laugh and then sigh, and then reply, with smiling eyes, when the reformers vowed change: "Good luck, suckers." So God made a farm bill.
God said: "I need somebody mighty enough to divert money to those who need it least, yet sneaky enough to do it behind closed doors. I need somebody to wheedle, deal, logroll, beg, trade, and cajole subsidy checks for corporate agribusiness, sushi rice, catfish, Christmas-tree promotion boards, biorefineries and at least 15 sitting members of Congress. Somebody to make sure there are no caps on subsidies and no asset tests for food stamps. Somebody in a nice suit. Somebody who has never been on a farm." So God made lobbyists.
He said, "I need somebody or something to help patriotic Americans forget that 80% of that 'farm' bill is going to welfare, and most of the rest to sugar barons and cotton kings who vacation in Mallorca. Somebody or something to ensure people don't get to wondering why it is we have a 'farm' bill when we don't have a 'laptop' bill, or a 'vampire-novel' bill or a 'swing-set' bill in this free-market economy that Americans supposedly prize. Somebody or something who will so inspire the public with homespun images of clapboard churches and cows, leathery men holding rope, sheepdogs, plaid shirts, cowboy hats, and American flags that folks will entirely fail to realize that the people pictured—the hardworking souls tilling the back 40—are these days the last to see a dime of farm-bill money." So God made Ram pickup trucks and Super Bowl commercials.
Finally, God looked down on all he'd created and He said: "Now I need somebody who really will work hard. Somebody who'll get up day in and day out to plow through traffic to work, come home to help the kids and make the dinner and do the laundry, and struggle with the bills, and get up to do it all over again.
"Somebody who will limit himself to dreaming about that Ram pickup truck he can't afford—because the IRS bill is due, and because the government-inflated cost of groceries and gas sure do make things tight, and because his own small business, which he built with his own sweat, doesn't qualify for any handouts. I need somebody to spend his life paying for this week's farm extravaganza, somebody who Congress made sure had no damn choice in the matter."
So God made a taxpayer.
Write to [email protected].
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I'm not sure that was a must read.
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Sounds like God is doing good work.
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I don't think the farm bill is really about farming anymore.
I think it's all about unfairly and illogically subsidizing both the supply and demand side of farming.
Unfair, sure. There is nothing illogical about it, though.
It's illogical to subsidize no-till when someone can double crop with beans and mow it flat.
Isn't the no-till farming better for soil erosion and moisture retention?
It absolutely is but not when you end up mowing the beans flat anyway.
If you mow the beans flat, it is still better for soil erosion and moisture retention vs tilling the soil. Additional benefits are in weed (NOT THAT KIND OF WEED) control, but these benefits are not always shown in year one or two.
Here is fun fact: Weed seed can live in the soil for years without germinating and then, when the conditions are right, still be viable. At one small town KS football field, the small hill (bump, really) where the score board stood for years was bulldozed flat for the addition of a new scoreboard. After bulldozing, cocklebur seed that had been buried in the ground for over 30 years still germinated. KSU Weed scientist found that the germination rate of this cocklebur seed was nearly 80%
Dobber I just hate how they sell it as conservation minded, re: keeping winter habitat for game birds and other animals, but that it doesn't actually happen. I think if you take the money it should come with stipulations.
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I hear canola acres are way up in Kansas because it's the first year farmers can collect insurance on it there.
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Around here the farmers often have some of the biggest off shore boats at the fishing tourney's.
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Around here the farmers often have some of the biggest off shore boats at the fishing tourney's.
Studs
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http://www.salina.com/news/senate-tax-bill-seen-as-knockout-blow-to-some-kansas/article_a1179d88-3b55-595f-add2-2c556feab0db.html
is this a thing or is big farm up to something?
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http://www.salina.com/news/senate-tax-bill-seen-as-knockout-blow-to-some-kansas/article_a1179d88-3b55-595f-add2-2c556feab0db.html
is this a thing or is big farm up to something?
That looks like a pretty big increase. Maybe the state should just start taxing LLCs again.
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http://www.hayspost.com/2015/02/16/hineman-kansas-agriculture-is-under-attack/
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Welp, time so sell out and retire early. Hellooooooo Colorado!! :Carl: :buh-bye: :driving: :bong: :Woohoo: