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Title: Plane crash in San Fran.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 06, 2013, 04:47:18 PM
 :frown:
Title: Re: Plane crash in San Fran.
Post by: AppleJack on July 06, 2013, 05:27:00 PM
I fly there Monday   :blindfold:
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Post by: Stevesie60 on July 07, 2013, 12:44:17 AM
I fly there Monday   :blindfold:

What time!? :D
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 07, 2013, 11:35:12 AM
I fly there Monday   :blindfold:

Cancel ASAP
Title: Re: Plane crash in San Fran.
Post by: Pete on July 07, 2013, 11:45:02 AM

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"For now, we acknowledge that there were no problems caused by the 777-200 plane or (its) engines," Yoon Young-doo, the president and CEO of the airline, told a media conference on Sunday at the company headquarters.

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Initial reports said two people were killed and more than 70 injured when the Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashed on landing at San Francisco International Airport.

If confirmed, it would be the first fatal accident involving a Boeing 777, a family of twin-engined long-haul aircraft which has been in service for the past 18 years.

With more than five million flights, according to Boeing, it remains one of the industry's solid workhorses.

http://news.yahoo.com/plane-engines-not-fault-asiana-crash-ceo-073731574.html


That 777-200LR is one long flying bitch.  I've ridden them from Johannesburg to Atlanta non-stop.  Currently listed as the fourth longest non-stop flight, and the longest for a plane with one two engines.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-stop_flight
Title: Plane crash in San Fran.
Post by: felix rex on July 07, 2013, 12:03:20 PM
I love the super calm Chinese lady who just stared down a gaggle of US reporters and described nonchalantly exiting through the hole in the back of the plane after unbuckling her 4-year old AND getting her carry-on from the bin. Stud/boss travel move.
Title: Re: Plane crash in San Fran.
Post by: steve dave on July 07, 2013, 12:37:23 PM
I'm guessing the pilot pulled up short on his approach and tried to get altitude at the last second tipping the tail into the dirt.
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 08, 2013, 01:00:39 AM
Kind of remarkable that only two people died (so far). One of the teenage girls who died was killed when she was run over by an emergency vehicle that was driving up to the plane.  :frown:  You miraculously survive a rough ridin' plane crash, then die immediately afterward.
Title: Re: Plane crash in San Fran.
Post by: Tobias on July 08, 2013, 01:01:59 AM
Kind of remarkable that only two people died (so far). One of the teenage girls who died was killed when she was run over by an emergency vehicle that was driving up to the plane.  :frown:  You miraculously survive a rough ridin' plane crash, then die immediately afterward.

don't want to be too insensitive here, but mack brown thread?
Title: Re: Plane crash in San Fran.
Post by: AbeFroman on July 08, 2013, 09:30:18 AM
I lost my life in San Francisco, waiting for the plane to land right, but I found it in a smokecloud. The tail was falling off.
Title: Re: Re: Plane crash in San Fran.
Post by: mocat on July 11, 2013, 10:15:36 PM
I lost my life in San Francisco, waiting for the plane to land right, but I found it in a smokecloud. The tail was falling off.

Idk bro
Title: Re: Plane crash in San Fran.
Post by: sys on July 12, 2013, 12:42:49 AM
been thinking about this a little - they have to fire those pilots right?  or find them no-flying jobs.  they can't put them back on paying flights.  really kind sucks for them (if true).
Title: Plane crash in San Fran.
Post by: steve dave on July 12, 2013, 06:04:08 AM
been thinking about this a little - they have to fire those pilots right?  or find them no-flying jobs.  they can't put them back on paying flights.  really kind sucks for them (if true).

Yeah, I think they have to. Then nobody else is going to hire someone who was the only person to ever wreck a 777.
Title: Re: Plane crash in San Fran.
Post by: EuroCat on July 12, 2013, 06:43:51 AM
been thinking about this a little - they have to fire those pilots right?  or find them no-flying jobs.  they can't put them back on paying flights.  really kind sucks for them (if true).
Well, they're not dead which is kind of lucky and stuff.
Title: Re: Plane crash in San Fran.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on July 12, 2013, 07:18:46 AM
according to random pilot BBSs, korean pilots are apparently bad pilots(racist? probably)
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Post by: 8manpick on July 12, 2013, 08:39:16 AM
according to random pilot BBSs, korean pilots are apparently bad pilots(racist? probably)

One of the Gladwell books covers this. Outliers maybe?
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Post by: Skipper44 on July 12, 2013, 11:09:03 AM
according to random pilot BBSs, korean pilots are apparently bad pilots(racist? probably)

One of the Gladwell books covers this. Outliers maybe?
One rumor is the pilot in training that was actually landing the plane was actually a year or two ahead of the pilot in command at the same flight school.  The theory is that the "respect your elders/superiors" that is so pervasive in Asian cultures is why the pilot in command didn't take control of the airplane sooner when the pilot in training screwed up the approach.   

Also, I have seen some "Asian pilots can do it by the book but don't adapt to changing situations" talk that is straight out of this cinema classic(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.movieprop.com%2Ftvandmovie%2Freviews%2Fgungho.jpg&hash=20c03cc11d5893d40ef2fac2aff3d10386f76a86)
Title: Re: Plane crash in San Fran.
Post by: michigancat on July 12, 2013, 03:47:47 PM
http://sfist.com/2013/07/12/ktvu_names_asiana_pilots_ho_lee_fuk.php
Title: Re: Plane crash in San Fran.
Post by: 'taterblast on July 12, 2013, 03:49:02 PM
http://sfist.com/2013/07/12/ktvu_names_asiana_pilots_ho_lee_fuk.php

how on EARTH does that happen
Title: Re: Plane crash in San Fran.
Post by: Tobias on July 12, 2013, 03:50:33 PM
http://sfist.com/2013/07/12/ktvu_names_asiana_pilots_ho_lee_fuk.php

 :eek:
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Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on July 12, 2013, 03:55:03 PM
Ho Lee Fuk  :lol:
Title: Re: Plane crash in San Fran.
Post by: michigancat on July 12, 2013, 03:55:43 PM
Ho Lee Fuk  :lol:

Read them in order. :lol:
Title: Re: Plane crash in San Fran.
Post by: AbeFroman on July 12, 2013, 03:56:27 PM
Surprised they didn't finish off with a "Baba Booey! Baba Booey! Howard Stern's penis!"
Title: Re: Plane crash in San Fran.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 12, 2013, 03:56:46 PM
Should I feel bad that I laughed?

Oh man   :lol:
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Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on July 12, 2013, 03:57:02 PM
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Post by: OK_Cat on July 12, 2013, 04:09:09 PM
 :lol:
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Post by: Pete on July 12, 2013, 04:12:23 PM
 :sdeek:

 :lol:
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Post by: Rams on July 12, 2013, 05:24:15 PM
omg no rough ridin' way.

:facepalm: journalism
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Post by: michigancat on July 12, 2013, 08:22:31 PM
wow, it really came from the NTSB: http://www.ntsb.gov/news/2013/130712.html
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Post by: catzacker on July 12, 2013, 08:29:49 PM
 :lol:  holy eff.  The balls on that summer intern.
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Post by: AppleJack on July 12, 2013, 08:37:14 PM
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That's actually offensive enough that someone may pursue legal action. If they use Bay-area lawyer Mi Su Yu, that station is mumped.

 :lol:
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Post by: Rams on July 12, 2013, 10:04:46 PM
that intern is a hero
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Post by: fun muffin on July 13, 2013, 04:06:53 PM
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Post by: OK_Cat on July 15, 2013, 10:44:25 AM
ghost jet did it!   :eek:
Title: Re: Plane crash in San Fran.
Post by: mocat on July 15, 2013, 10:47:26 AM
holy crap i did not know it spun around like that  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Plane crash in San Fran.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 15, 2013, 10:50:07 AM
been thinking about this a little - they have to fire those pilots right?  or find them no-flying jobs.  they can't put them back on paying flights.  really kind sucks for them (if true).

It sucks more for the intern who is going to get fired over releasing fake names, imo.
Title: Re: Plane crash in San Fran.
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 15, 2013, 10:52:32 AM
Do you have to fly cargo for a year or something before commercial?  Seems like a good idea.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 15, 2013, 11:09:42 AM
Do you have to fly cargo for a year or something before commercial?  Seems like a good idea.

I think it's a lot longer than a year.
Title: Re: Plane crash in San Fran.
Post by: steve dave on July 15, 2013, 11:21:18 AM
Do you have to fly cargo for a year or something before commercial?  Seems like a good idea.

most pilots spend a lot of years flying small great lakes'y planes before getting promoted to the big time. a 777 is pretty big time. pilots get paid shitty until then so this guy was probably partying pretty hard about it right until he ended his career.
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Post by: eastcat on July 15, 2013, 12:45:21 PM
Do you have to fly cargo for a year or something before commercial?  Seems like a good idea.

most pilots spend a lot of years flying small great lakes'y planes before getting promoted to the big time. a 777 is pretty big time. pilots get paid shitty until then so this guy was probably partying pretty hard about it right until he ended his career.

This is only in the U.S.; Europe and the Middle east are notorious for sticking 500hr pilots in the right seat of an A320. I doubt Korea ia much different. The FAA has new 1,500hr minimums coming into effect soon also. (again, only for U.S. pilots, which these are not).

Without stating the obvious US pilots are significantly better trained than their compadres from the rest of the world and it's usually not even close.
Title: Plane crash in San Fran.
Post by: The1BigWillie on July 15, 2013, 06:31:35 PM
My cousin flies 777s for Emirate Airlines. Took him about 10 years of bullshit with Mesa airlines and US Airways before he got it. Plus he has to live in Dubai.
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Post by: michigancat on July 15, 2013, 06:38:48 PM
Plus he has to live in Dubai.

Damn! That sucks!
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Post by: kim carnes on July 15, 2013, 06:57:57 PM
most pilots rack up hours flying for the military (if you're smart)
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 20, 2013, 12:55:08 PM
Man, we really need to bring back the
Damn, this sucks!
Title: Re: Plane crash in San Fran.
Post by: PowercatPat on July 20, 2013, 05:28:10 PM
most pilots rack up hours flying for the military (if you're smart)

I have a relative who did this.
Title: Re: Plane crash in San Fran.
Post by: ChiComCat on July 20, 2013, 05:52:17 PM
Do you have to fly cargo for a year or something before commercial?  Seems like a good idea.

most pilots spend a lot of years flying small great lakes'y planes before getting promoted to the big time. a 777 is pretty big time. pilots get paid shitty until then so this guy was probably partying pretty hard about it right until he ended his career.

This is only in the U.S.; Europe and the Middle east are notorious for sticking 500hr pilots in the right seat of an A320. I doubt Korea ia much different. The FAA has new 1,500hr minimums coming into effect soon also. (again, only for U.S. pilots, which these are not).

Without stating the obvious US pilots are significantly better trained than their compadres from the rest of the world and it's usually not even close.

US also has a bunch of people who want to be pilots some day.  Not sure if this a big career path or dream in other countries/cultures.  When I worked there for a stretch, I know even Great Lakes could be choosey as eff and have stud pilots because there was such a ridiculously large applicant pool.
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Post by: steve dave on July 20, 2013, 05:52:56 PM
Man, we really need to bring back the
Damn, this sucks!

damn, that sucks
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Post by: 'taterblast on August 06, 2013, 08:59:25 AM
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Post by: OK_Cat on August 06, 2013, 09:03:37 AM
jfc espn
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Post by: EuroCat on August 06, 2013, 06:40:56 PM
 :lol:
Rough summer for our friends of oriental heritage