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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: Kat Kid on July 05, 2013, 01:54:42 PM
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Magna Carta Holy Grail Live Review
Holy Grail- I don't know if anyone could've predicted 15 years ago that JT would be in this position. Good on him. He is talented and he has picked friends and collabos wisely. If you would've told me 15 years ago that Jay Z would be quoting Kurt Cobaine lyrics in his tunes it would've been slightly more believable but it is pretty weird in its own right. It is weird, this song seems way over produced and JT seems to overwhelm Jay. The opening beat as it is heard in the commercial sounds like it could've been a real gritty solid track that Jay would've just ripped and run with and featured his lyrics and voice. It peeks through, but it gets lost in the awful back up harmonies, JT and a reluctance to stick with the simple piano and guitar break and try to do 4 or 5 things while burying the winner.
UPDATE/EDIT
2nd and 3rd listen it is a lot better lyrically. Jay and JT have a lot of fairly interesting things to say about fame.
The song structure is still inexcusable.
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Picasso Baby- This bass heavy beat is even grittier and is reminiscent of his earlier work. It could've been on Reasonable Doubt up until the break at about 3 minutes in when he picks up a beat and rhyming scheme very similar to 99 problems. Lyrically he raps about crap that must make sense to him, but I am just like wtf? He wants a Picasso? He wants to be considered Picasso? It seems his biggest inconvenience is rough ridin' paparazzi. It isn't first world problems it is like 1% problems.
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Tom Ford- "It's Bordeaux and Burgundies, flush out a Riesling ..... I don't pop molly, I rock Tom Ford" I mean what in the world?
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picasso baby beat had a VERY "99 problems" feel to it - a little heavy handed IMO...
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FuckwithmeyouknowIgotit- intro: "The reason why we like this this jewelry and this diamonds and stuff
They don't understand is because we really from Africa
And that's where all this stuff come from" what in the hell?
"Hov keep gettin' that dinero, got it
Even if a nigga gotta Robert, get it?"
This is the only good rhyme on this piece of crap
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oh how the mighty have fallen. Jay and 'Ye just aren't what they used to be
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Oceans- Jay and Frank seem like they actually give a crap on this song. The most intense song so far. Frank's hook is closer to a verse than a chorus, but the beat is so frantic that it doesn't distract or lose momentum. Jay Z seems actually pissed off rapping about his feelings. It seems like he understands that the crap he buys will and the lifestyle he lives will never get him full acceptance by the truly powerful. This song he lets loose that he knows he's still stained: "Dope boy still smelling like cocaina
White boat, white robe
Can he be more cleaner"
The tension in his relationship with the excesses of being in the 1% are laid bare when he says:
"The oil spill that BP ain't clean up
I'm anti-Santa Maria
Only Christopher we acknowledge is Wallace
I don't even like Washingtons in my pocket
Black card go hard when I'm shopping"
That is much more interesting than his pure capitalistic raps. But I guess they are just further evidence for the tension.
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F.U.T.W. (eff Up This World)- It almost seems like as the record goes over we go further in to his brain, like we are in a session with his psychiatrist.
"After that government cheese, we eating steak
After the projects, now we on estates
I'm from the bottom, I know y'all can relate"
He is the self-made man, but he doesn't want to only celebrate his ascent. He wants to change the system:
"See most of my niggas died early twenties or late teens
I'm just trying to come from under the thumb of this regime
1% of a billion more than niggas even seen"
and
"Make a million another million let my niggas make a million
'til we all check a billion, crap it's just the way I'm feeling
We have yet to see a ceiling, we just top what we top
Cause the bars don't struggle and the struggle don't stop"
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Doe every song have loads of cussing?
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Doe every song have loads of cussing?
it's a headphone'r at work and at home around the kids, pete
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SomewhereinAmerica- This beat is hypnotic and really good. Really chill jazzy piano riff with upbeat sax riff over top.
I am the nouveau riche:
"Shout out to old Jews and old rules
New blacks with new stacks
I already been the king
Retro act, I'm just bringing it back
Like Jordan Packs
New money, they looking down on me
Blue bloods they trying to clown on me
You can turn up your nose high society
Never gone turn down the homie
Knock knock I'm at your neighbor house
Straight cash I bought ya neighbor out
You should come to the housewarming
Come and see what your new neighbor 'bout
Yellow Lambo in the driveway
A buck 35 on the highway"
rough ridin' brilliant and hilarious:
"Cause somewhere in America
Miley Cyrus is still twerkin'
[Outro]
Twerk, twerk, twerk, twerk
Twerk, Miley, Miley, twerk
Twerk,
Twerk, Miley, Miley, Miley, twerk
Twerk, yeah, ugh-huh
Twerk, Miley, Miley, Miley
Only in America"
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Crown-
Oh yes. I can get behind this. Reminding us that he is about to take over the sports world is a pretty boss move.
"You in the presence of a king
Scratch that, you in the presence of a God
Put in the belly of the beast
I escaped, a nigga never had a job
Scott Boras, you over baby
Robinson Cano, you coming with me
These niggas is like rotary phones
It's a new day, hit up KD
Niggas always try to knock a nigga down
Knock me to my knees about a million times
Uncle said I'll never sell a million records
I sold a million records like a million times
These niggas shouldn't let me in
I ball so hard on ESPN
See my name come across on CNN
'Bout 6 minutes, you gonna see it again"
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Crown-
Oh yes. I can get behind this. Reminding us that he is about to take over the sports world is a pretty boss move.
"You in the presence of a king
Scratch that, you in the presence of a God
Put in the belly of the beast
I escaped, a nigga never had a job
Scott Boras, you over baby
Robinson Cano, you coming with me
These niggas is like rotary phones
It's a new day, hit up KD
Niggas always try to knock a nigga down
Knock me to my knees about a million times
Uncle said I'll never sell a million records
I sold a million records like a million times
These niggas shouldn't let me in
I ball so hard on ESPN
See my name come across on CNN
'Bout 6 minutes, you gonna see it again"
They did a piece on this the other day on the radio. He's landed Kevin Durant ("hit up by KD").
I listened to a book on audio about a small time agent ("Illegal Procedure"), and it was pretty interesting about the different "pitches" and angles the agents take to land players. Jay Z should be wildly popular by selling that "You are an entertainer" angle.
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:popcorn: can't wait for Boras' rebuttal
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:popcorn: can't wait for Boras' rebuttal
if it's anything like "BBC", he'll have a verse on "Charter of Liberties" in a few years
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2nd half review up tomorrow.
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2nd half review up tomorrow.
can't wait KK, i've enjoyed this
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This is really hard hitting stuff. GJ, KK.
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kk you are very good at this
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2nd half review up tomorrow.
:pray:
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jay z's music is alright but i think he might be Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
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Heaven-
Chilled out trance like vibe, great sample.
"That's me in the corner
That's me in the spotlight
Losing my religion"
Quoting Michael Stipe now? What in the hell was he listening to prepping for this album? I find this fascinating. Like did he wait 20 years to drop this line in or did he just discover R.E.M.? So many questions...
"I'm a motherfucking prophet, smoke a tree of knowledge
Drink from a gold chalice
you gotta love it"
Pretty dope rhyme.
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Versus- Interlude. Whatever.
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Go KK Go!
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Part II (On the Run)- As awful as Bonnie and Clyde 1.0 was, this is somehow worse. Like how do you not look back at that piece of trash and be like "needs an update!" It hurts my feelings because "Crazy in Love" is one of the best rap/pop collabos of all time. He has had two instant classics in this exact genre recently (New York State of Mind and Young Forever) and yet this is the laziness getting served up?
The song doesn't even pretend to try to be a hit. Fine. Play it that way. But it is soooo annoying and indulgent:
"Who wants that perfect love story anyway, anyway?
Cliché, cliché, cliché, cliché
Who wants that hero love that saves the day, anyway?
Cliché, cliché, cliché, cliché"
I don't think either of them understand irony.
And clearly not:
"I don't care if we on the run
Baby as long I'm next to you
And if loving you is a crime
Tell me why do I bring out
The best in you"
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"I hear sirens while we mAnnotateake love
Loud as hell, but they don't know
They're nowhere near us
I will hold your heart and your Annotategun
I don't care if they come, noooo"
How rough ridin' annoying is this played out (to borrow a phrase...."Cliché, cliché, cliché, cliché") theme? YOU ARE NOT OUTLAWS! YOU ARE WELL KNOWN CELEBRITIES! YOU ARE COLLABOING WITH A PREACHER'S DAUGHTER/MOTHER OF YOUR CHILD! WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?
Rick! Someone wake up Rick on the couch! Jay is making Beyonce say:
"I don't care if they give me life
I get all of my life from you
And if loving you had a price
I would pay my life for you"
I guess this is where Crazy in Love ends up.
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Beach is Better- on second thought maybe that last shitty song was Beyonce's idea after she heard this interlude:
"Girl why you never ready
For as long as you took
You better look like Halle Berry
Or Beyoncé. crap then we getting married"
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BBC- Nas, collabo, Pharell beat, mediocre effort all around. This crap sounds like it was brainstormed while they were changing diapers or some crap. It was like two old balls guys talking about what they did in their 20's.
"I'm not your aAnnotateverage dope dealer
Silver Toyotas four runners and four wheelers
Me and Teflon Q45 infinite
Windows tinted
White girl all in it
Britney, bitch"
This made me chuckle a bit.
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Jay Z Blue-
LOL and just on cue (swear I did not cheat and plan this!!)
"And I'm stuck in that old cycle
Like wife leaves hubby
eff joint custody
I need a joint right now
Just the thought alone fucks with me"
Very creepy samples from mother dearest in the background:
"No wire hangers ever!!!"
I'm pretty sure that shitty song with the wife was to smooth over this song. Oh man Jay. You are one of us.
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La Familia- This beat sucks. Also the song sucks.
"Niggas wanna kidnap wifey
Good luck with that bruh
You must gonna hide your whole family
What you think we wearing black for
Ready for that war"
What a weirdo!
This could've been funnier:
"Industry talk behind your bacAnnotatek
Ain't nobody got time for that"
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Nickels and Dime-
Jay is really fascinating when he goes full on capitalistic Horatio Alger and gets a bit introspective:
"Sometimes I feel survivor's guilt
I gave some money to this guy, he got high as hell
Now I'm part of the problem far as I could tell
Did I do it for him or do it for myself
Can't lie to myself"
Then Jay goes all black Republican/Ayn Rand:
"I got a problem with the handouts, I took the man route
I'll give an opportunity though, that's the plan now
No guilt in giving clear a nigga conscience out
No guilt in receiving, every thing within reason
Can't see it taking food out my little monster's mouth
That'll drive me gaga"
I really think this whole thing was just to protect his ego getting knocked down by Harry Belafonte:
"I'm just trying to find common ground
'fore Mr. Belafonte come and chop a nigga down
Mr. Day O, major fail"
Who apparently had the audaciousness to criticize Jay for not doing anything with his very large microphone to serve the less fortunate. So that is the last words that Jay leaves us with are:
"Y'all not worthy, sometimes I feel like
Y'all don't deserve me, my flow unearthly
The greatest form of giving is anonymous to anonymous
So here y'all go, I promise this"
So your gift to the planet is a sponsored content collabo with Samsung to promote yourself? Ok. Just wanted to clarify.
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BBC- Nas, collabo, Pharell beat, mediocre effort all around. This crap sounds like it was brainstormed while they were changing diapers or some crap. It was like two old balls guys talking about what they did in their 20's.
"I'm not your aAnnotateverage dope dealer
Silver Toyotas four runners and four wheelers
Me and Teflon Q45 infinite
Windows tinted
White girl all in it
Britney, bitch"
This made me chuckle a bit.
that song seems like nas and jay were guesting on someone else's shitty album, stands out so much
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I didn't know Nas and Jay-z had squashed their beef. (Nas won lyrically, Jay won monetarily)
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I just found a free download for the album. :billdance: <------ Me at work right now.