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Title: Best States
Post by: steve dave on June 22, 2013, 03:44:00 PM
http://www.measureofamerica.org/maps/
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: steve dave on June 22, 2013, 03:45:36 PM
dontfeedthebear, did you see how much ass we whip in sarpy co.?
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: michigancat on June 22, 2013, 03:49:14 PM
It's honestly remarkable how average Kansas is at everything.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 22, 2013, 04:00:27 PM
dontfeedthebear, did you see how much ass we whip in sarpy co.?

i really (dead serious) think omaha should be taken down a percentage point or something due to how everybody looks like a first cousin of each other and has similar haircuts with similar dress and all, but maybe that's for a different poll.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: eastcat on June 22, 2013, 04:33:24 PM
Whoever made that map has never traveled.

New Jersey???? Complete rough ridin' shithole.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 22, 2013, 04:49:36 PM
Whoever made that map has never traveled.

New Jersey???? Complete rough ridin' shithole.

why? do they all look alike and dress the same?
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: j-dub on June 22, 2013, 05:01:08 PM
Whoever made that map has never traveled.

New Jersey???? Complete rough ridin' shithole.

oscar springsteen.. single-handedly raises the bar for an entire state.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: Headinjun on June 22, 2013, 05:01:23 PM
You guys notice sumthing about the map?

Sumthing Joe Montgomeryish??

 :dunno:
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: _33 on June 22, 2013, 05:14:41 PM
Whoever made that map has never traveled.

New Jersey???? Complete rough ridin' shithole.

South Jersey has a lot of really nice areas.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: star seed 7 on June 22, 2013, 05:20:26 PM
Whoever made that map has never traveled.

New Jersey???? Complete rough ridin' shithole.

South Jersey has a lot of really nice areas.

lots of celebrities live there.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: AbeFroman on June 22, 2013, 05:36:40 PM
You guys notice sumthing about the map?

Sumthing Joe Montgomeryish??

 :dunno:

Yeah the south sucks. rough ridin' white trash methheads.
Title: Best States
Post by: Tobias on June 22, 2013, 05:47:52 PM
I don't mind new jersey
Title: Best States
Post by: Tobias on June 22, 2013, 05:48:36 PM
plus, trees
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 22, 2013, 05:50:33 PM
You guys notice sumthing about the map?

Sumthing Joe Montgomeryish??

 :dunno:

Yeah the south sucks. rough ridin' white trash methheads.

Really?  There's a pretty good number of Methheads in the Central U.S. as well. 
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: steve dave on June 22, 2013, 06:27:02 PM
it's kinda weird to me that CO, NE and KS are so high on the education index one. like, it's all east coast at the top and then those three dropped in there.
Title: Best States
Post by: Pete on June 22, 2013, 06:48:31 PM
I can't get that web site on my mobile phone right now, but I will tell you two states I like a lot.  Wisconsin and Minnesota.  Odds are that I end up in one of those, actually.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: steve dave on June 22, 2013, 06:52:05 PM
I can't get that web site on my mobile phone right now, but I will tell you two states I like a lot.  Wisconsin and Minnesota.  Odds are that I end up in one of those, actually.

too cold, go cats
Title: Best States
Post by: Pete on June 22, 2013, 06:56:03 PM
I can't get that web site on my mobile phone right now, but I will tell you two states I like a lot.  Wisconsin and Minnesota.  Odds are that I end up in one of those, actually.

too cold, go cats

I mostly agree, but I don't really spend any time at all "out doors" between November and March in Kansas...so, in a way, who gives a eff if the winter months are a bunch colder?


The upper northwest seems too rainy.  I wanted to wack myself after just a few days in that rain.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: steve dave on June 22, 2013, 06:59:31 PM
I can't get that web site on my mobile phone right now, but I will tell you two states I like a lot.  Wisconsin and Minnesota.  Odds are that I end up in one of those, actually.

too cold, go cats

I mostly agree, but I don't really spend any time at all "out doors" between November and March in Kansas...so, in a way, who gives a eff if the winter months are a bunch colder?


The upper northwest seems too rainy.  I wanted to wack myself after just a few days in that rain.

maybe, like, savannah, GA. warm all year but coastal so not too hot or humid. just a thought. didn't see any Caribbean places when I was there in January. only college is the stud art and design school though. make them commute to athens and just visit us on weekends?
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: ChiComCat on June 22, 2013, 07:26:04 PM
it's kinda weird to me that CO, NE and KS are so high on the education index one. like, it's all east coast at the top and then those three dropped in there.

My county in Colorado is relatively rich and relatively Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  Pretty easy life out here fellas.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 22, 2013, 07:32:40 PM
i've never cared about weather as much as i do now. does this mean that i'm getting old? like honest to god i prob won't ever move, but if i did, weather would be the trump card in deciding where and honestly mhk kind of sucks. like inhabitable for around 35% of the year.
Title: Best States
Post by: Pete on June 22, 2013, 07:51:31 PM
MHS is worse than KC, it gets the extremes.


I can't decide if I hate super hot more than I hate super cold.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: ChiComCat on June 22, 2013, 07:54:36 PM
If you're willing to say eff off to the outdoors for April as well Pete, the mountains have pretty awesome 80 degree summers.  Great for doing stuff outside (especially golf), not usually hot enough to just sit by a pool and drink though.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: steve dave on June 22, 2013, 07:55:24 PM
the key is to be on non-extreme weather coasts. vancouver, san fran, savannah, charleston, etc.
Title: Best States
Post by: Pete on June 22, 2013, 08:02:47 PM
the key is to be on non-extreme weather coasts. vancouver, san fran, savannah, charleston, etc.

Do those southern ones really not get super hot?
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: steve dave on June 22, 2013, 08:03:33 PM
the key is to be on non-extreme weather coasts. vancouver, san fran, savannah, charleston, etc.

Do those southern ones really not get super hot?

nope, the ocean keeps it dry. a somewhat cooler miami with less hurricane activity. I had no idea about this either until this year when I started spending some time there for work. but, drive 3 hours inland and it's hot and humid and disgusting.
Title: Best States
Post by: Pete on June 22, 2013, 08:05:09 PM
the key is to be on non-extreme weather coasts. vancouver, san fran, savannah, charleston, etc.

Do those southern ones really not get super hot?

nope, the ocean keeps it dry. a somewhat cooler miami with less hurricane activity.

I am going to do some serious (hard core) investigation into this.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: steve dave on June 22, 2013, 08:07:13 PM
the key is to be on non-extreme weather coasts. vancouver, san fran, savannah, charleston, etc.

Do those southern ones really not get super hot?

nope, the ocean keeps it dry. a somewhat cooler miami with less hurricane activity.

I am going to do some serious (hard core) investigation into this.

there is still humidity and it gets warm, just not KC in summer warm/humid. I don't want to oversell it as some 70s all year wonderland like San Fran but this January when I was there for about 10 days it was in the 60s every day and it's fairly nice even in summer (80s/90s).
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: star seed 7 on June 22, 2013, 08:09:45 PM
Vancouver has the most perfect climate in NA.
Title: Best States
Post by: Pete on June 22, 2013, 08:11:09 PM
Vancouver has the most perfect climate in NA.

Is it sunnier than Seattle?  I would murder people if I lived in Seattle.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: Trim on June 22, 2013, 08:14:52 PM
Vancouver has the most perfect climate in NA.

Is it sunnier than Seattle?  I would murder people if I lived in Seattle.

You'd be fine.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: slobber on June 22, 2013, 08:14:57 PM
Savannah is awesome. Confirmed by dobber.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: star seed 7 on June 22, 2013, 08:15:39 PM
Vancouver has the most perfect climate in NA.

Is it sunnier than Seattle?  I would murder people if I lived in Seattle.

I think it's fairly dry in winter and rainy in summer. I dunno, I care more about temp range than rain.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: CNS on June 22, 2013, 08:42:14 PM
Was thinking of making Savannah next yes vacation for me and wife.  Sounds like we should def try it.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: steve dave on June 22, 2013, 09:24:30 PM
Was thinking of making Savannah next yes vacation for me and wife.  Sounds like we should def try it.

if you are wanting something active don't do it. it's super chillax. if you want to just stroll around and see hundreds of historical crazy old things and lounge in a park (where you can byob) and eat at really old shrimp and grits and seafood type places and whatnot it's the place for you. stay at the Andaz. don't stay anywhere else. well, maybe stay at the Bohemian Hotel if you don't stay at the Andaz. nowhere else though. also all the restaurants have plastic cup dispensers at the front door so you can bring your drink with you because that's legal (see byob at the city parks comment earlier).
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: steve dave on June 22, 2013, 09:49:43 PM
Was thinking of making Savannah next yes vacation for me and wife.  Sounds like we should def try it.

if you are wanting something active don't do it. it's super chillax. if you want to just stroll around and see hundreds of historical crazy old things and lounge in a park (where you can byob) and eat at really old shrimp and grits and seafood type places and whatnot it's the place for you. stay at the Andaz. don't stay anywhere else. well, maybe stay at the Bohemian Hotel if you don't stay at the Andaz. nowhere else though. also all the restaurants have plastic cup dispensers at the front door so you can bring your drink with you because that's legal (see byob at the city parks comment earlier).

also go here:

https://twitter.com/distillerysav

http://www.distillerysavannah.com/
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: sys on June 22, 2013, 10:57:22 PM
Vancouver has the most perfect climate in NA.

montane mexico is better.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs.weatherspark.com.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fproduction%2Freports%2Fyear%2F000%2F032%2F602%2F1e681fff%2Ffraction_of_time_spent_in_various_temperature_bands_percent_pct.png&hash=ca6e3b2ea9023237981b33ab1fac3e63f323e029)


this website is awesome for visualizing comfort at different times of the year in different areas (averages).

http://weatherspark.com


Title: Re: Best States
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 22, 2013, 11:02:57 PM
Vancouver has the most perfect climate in NA.

montane mexico is better.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs.weatherspark.com.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fproduction%2Freports%2Fyear%2F000%2F032%2F602%2F1e681fff%2Ffraction_of_time_spent_in_various_temperature_bands_percent_pct.png&hash=ca6e3b2ea9023237981b33ab1fac3e63f323e029)


this website is awesome for visualizing comfort at different times of the year in different areas (averages).

http://weatherspark.com

i'm guessing that this chart would really piss me off if i knew how to read it. like really.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: sys on June 22, 2013, 11:19:44 PM
if i knew how to read it.

% of a day spent within the different temp ranges throughout the year.  the temp ranges are given on the website.  they also have cloud cover, wind, precip, humidity, etc.  it's a fantastic site.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: j-von on June 22, 2013, 11:30:42 PM
I've done a ton of research on the Vancouver area even though I was most interested in relocating to Victoria on Vancouver Island.

Here are the downsides -

You can't rough ridin' get in.  It no longer matters if you have tons of dough, or if you have a successful business you could relocate there.  Unless you get a workers visa for a job that's in serious demand, or get an investment from a Canadian investment firm, it isn't going to happen right now.

Eventually there will be a huge megathrust earthquake in the Cascadia subduction zone near Vancouver Island.  There's only a 10-14% chance of a 9+ earthquake happening there in the next 50 years, but that's still a high risk when you consider how bad it would be since they aren't all that well prepared.  The odds and severity will keep increasing as time goes by.

I've spent the last few years researching the US and Canada for relocation options.  I can work from anywhere and I'd like my kids to have the best education I can afford.  Manhattan is overpriced for what it provides young families, but to be honest I've been kind of amazed at how well it stacks up against other places.  We're still traveling around to prospective spots so we can make a final decision in the next few years.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: sys on June 22, 2013, 11:37:06 PM
I've spent the last few years researching the US and Canada for relocation options.

why just the us and canada?
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: star seed 7 on June 22, 2013, 11:41:43 PM
Montane looks too hot for me sys.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: j-von on June 22, 2013, 11:46:37 PM
I've spent the last few years researching the US and Canada for relocation options.

why just the us and canada?

When I first started it was worldwide.  My top countries were Switzerland, Australia, and New Zealand.  I actually did spend quite a bit of time looking into them, but the logistics of moving, traveling back and forth, and getting a visa to go there made me rethink going outside of North America.  I was under the assumption at the time that getting into Canada wouldn't be too bad, but they've unfortunately changed their immigration policies quite a bit the last few years.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: eastcat on June 22, 2013, 11:47:28 PM
Whoever made that map has never traveled.

New Jersey???? Complete rough ridin' shithole.

South Jersey has a lot of really nice areas.

lots of celebrities live there.

Are you shitting me? Camden NJ is in southern Jersey.
 :lol:
:facepalm:
:barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf:
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: sys on June 22, 2013, 11:49:25 PM
Montane looks too hot for me sys.

it's not.  it's pretty similar to your expressed preference.  a little less seasonal, but with more pronounced temp swings within a day.  the most significant difference is whether you want your precip in the summer or winter.

vancouver.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs.weatherspark.com.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fproduction%2Freports%2Fyear%2F000%2F028%2F404%2Fb4a86d3b%2Ffraction_of_time_spent_in_various_temperature_bands_percent_pct.png&hash=45a386a569e8044e444c11f69a78c71b345ef15e)

toluca.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs.weatherspark.com.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fproduction%2Freports%2Fyear%2F000%2F032%2F602%2F1e681fff%2Ffraction_of_time_spent_in_various_temperature_bands_percent_pct.png&hash=ca6e3b2ea9023237981b33ab1fac3e63f323e029)
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: sys on June 22, 2013, 11:52:10 PM
My top countries were Switzerland, Australia, and New Zealand.  I actually did spend quite a bit of time looking into them, but the logistics of moving, traveling back and forth, and getting a visa to go there made me rethink going outside of North America.  I was under the assumption at the time that getting into Canada wouldn't be too bad, but they've unfortunately changed their immigration policies quite a bit the last few years.

immigrating is a huge problem.  but if you have money you can mostly go anywhere.  and for a lot of places you can effectively live there with just a tourist visa.

i guess if you have kids and you want to educate them that' be a big complication.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: DQ12 on June 23, 2013, 12:01:01 AM
did you guys see the county rankings?  joco is pretty much the king of the midwest.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 23, 2013, 12:07:37 AM
My top countries were Switzerland, Australia, and New Zealand.  I actually did spend quite a bit of time looking into them, but the logistics of moving, traveling back and forth, and getting a visa to go there made me rethink going outside of North America.  I was under the assumption at the time that getting into Canada wouldn't be too bad, but they've unfortunately changed their immigration policies quite a bit the last few years.

immigrating is a huge problem.  but if you have money you can mostly go anywhere.  and for a lot of places you can effectively live there with just a tourist visa.

i guess if you have kids and you want to educate them that' be a big complication.

from the small stuff that i looked at, a college education from the us pretty much gets you in depending on what it's in i guess. like sys said though, a tourist visa is still good for most and then you can usually renew or get a sneaky way to renew or whatever.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: Headinjun on June 23, 2013, 12:16:34 AM
I can't get that web site on my mobile phone right now, but I will tell you two states I like a lot.  Wisconsin and Minnesota.  Odds are that I end up in one of those, actually.

too cold, go cats

I mostly agree, but I don't really spend any time at all "out doors" between November and March in Kansas...so, in a way, who gives a eff if the winter months are a bunch colder?


The upper northwest seems too rainy.  I wanted to wack myself after just a few days in that rain.

Dude Im with ya, Northeren Girlz put out like crazy.  I boned a girl from Wisc. Back in the college days and I still wack off to that time with her.

Title: Re: Best States
Post by: star seed 7 on June 23, 2013, 12:27:21 AM
Welp.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: DQ12 on June 23, 2013, 12:40:56 AM
the median income for riley county is a little over 16k?!

 :sdeek:
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: sys on June 23, 2013, 12:41:14 AM
ireland may be the best state (not for pete), pretty great temps, does rain all the time.  new zealand is pretty great too.  incidentally probably the two best countries in the world for grazing.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs.weatherspark.com.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fproduction%2Freports%2Fyear%2F000%2F028%2F817%2Fde3bdf43%2Ffraction_of_time_spent_in_various_temperature_bands_percent_pct.png&hash=8a69f0f035da7b16c40fc0d955580eb6686c78b1)

Title: Re: Best States
Post by: michigancat on June 23, 2013, 03:16:45 AM
ireland may be the best state (not for pete), pretty great temps, does rain all the time.  new zealand is pretty great too.  incidentally probably the two best countries in the world for grazing.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs.weatherspark.com.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fproduction%2Freports%2Fyear%2F000%2F028%2F817%2Fde3bdf43%2Ffraction_of_time_spent_in_various_temperature_bands_percent_pct.png&hash=8a69f0f035da7b16c40fc0d955580eb6686c78b1)



SF vs. Wichita:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs.weatherspark.com.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fproduction%2Freports%2Fyear%2F000%2F031%2F587%2F554fbe8a%2Ffraction_of_time_spent_in_various_temperature_bands_percent_pct.png&hash=66b748a7d1ae3ad606d63a94426de83cfc70e43e)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs.weatherspark.com.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fproduction%2Freports%2Fyear%2F000%2F030%2F564%2Fb3eca585%2Ffraction_of_time_spent_in_various_temperature_bands_percent_pct.png&hash=3e727b790619c3c1fd5372d94081077ab46623c2)

not sure why sys doesn't live in SF, great climate for him.
Title: Best States
Post by: Kat Kid on June 23, 2013, 07:13:59 AM
the median income for riley county is a little over 16k?!

 :sdeek:

Students.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: chum1 on June 23, 2013, 08:15:09 AM
I like variety.  The same damn thing all year long is depressing.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: steve dave on June 23, 2013, 08:33:45 AM
I like variety.  The same damn thing all year long is depressing.

I agree with this. Season changes are invigorating. But that doesn't last long for me. I'm usually loving winter in December but then hating its guts in January and suicidal come February. Same with summer. Love it right now but then come talk to me to get me feelings come August.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: lopakman on June 23, 2013, 08:37:03 AM
I like variety.  The same damn thing all year long is depressing.

I agree with this. Season changes are invigorating. But that doesn't last long for me. I'm usually loving winter in December but then hating its guts in January and suicidal come February. Same with summer. Love it right now but then come talk to me to get me feelings come August.

Same here.  I'll take the heat of August over February though.  At least there's the pool and cold beer to help.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: mocat on June 23, 2013, 09:23:51 AM
I have a hard time believing that Savannah and Charleston are not humid, but if true, that is fabulous
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: CNS on June 23, 2013, 10:13:54 AM
Also love the seasons and came to the realization long ago that it isn't about finding that one place, it is about finding those two places and moving back and forth as needed.  If I was a telecommuter, we would totally be doing this and spending summers in Winter Park or something.  However, I am going to have to wait until I retire which sucks huge amts of balls and taints. 
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: DQ12 on June 23, 2013, 11:33:14 AM
the median income for riley county is a little over 16k?!

 :sdeek:

Students.
that's a relief
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: sys on June 23, 2013, 01:16:07 PM
not sure why sys doesn't live in SF, great climate for him.

i like almost everything about sf, including the weather; i can't afford to live there.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 23, 2013, 01:19:45 PM
not sure why sys doesn't live in SF, great climate for him.

i like almost everything about sf, including the weather; i can't afford to live there.

it does sound like a great place. never been there though. need to fix that.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: sys on June 23, 2013, 01:25:19 PM
I have a hard time believing that Savannah and Charleston are not humid, but if true, that is fabulous

the summers look considerably more humid than is ideal.  it's also pretty hot.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs.weatherspark.com.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fproduction%2Freports%2Fyear%2F000%2F031%2F555%2F7e65808d%2Fdew_point_temperature_f.png&hash=0ab3e2ccd9cbb7432aa48b07106cf27b21850b1e)

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Title: Best States
Post by: Pete on June 23, 2013, 03:14:09 PM
What about Oregon?  Seems like it might have some of the good parts of both Northern California and Seattle, but lower cost of living and less soul crushing dreary rain.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: sys on June 23, 2013, 03:26:05 PM
What about Oregon?  Seems like it might have some of the good parts of both Northern California and Seattle, but lower cost of living and less soul crushing dreary rain.

if you don't like soul crushing dreary winter rain, you aren't going to like coastal n cal, oregon, washington or bc.  sorry pete, there're all the same.  what don't you like about dreary winter weather though?
Title: Best States
Post by: Pete on June 23, 2013, 03:28:28 PM
I guess I could get used to it.  I just hate being wet and cold.  I like snow and freezing more than wet and cold.
Title: Best States
Post by: Pete on June 23, 2013, 03:32:01 PM
I think my best choice is a townhouse/condo/urban tiny yard home in downtown Minneapolis, AND a cabin on lake in Northern MN ( someplace between Brainerd and Bemidji)
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: sys on June 23, 2013, 03:32:27 PM
I guess I could get used to it.  I just hate being wet and cold.  I like snow and freezing more than wet and cold.

you'd probably be better off looking for somewhere with mostly summer precip then.  you have to have precip sometime, or you end up living in a desert.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: sys on June 23, 2013, 03:33:08 PM
I think my best choice is a townhouse/condo/urban tiny yard home in downtown Minneapolis, AND a cabin on lake in Northern MN ( someplace between Brainerd and Bemidji)

pete, that's too cold.  c'mon now, you're giving up.
Title: Best States
Post by: Pete on June 23, 2013, 03:35:13 PM
I think my best choice is a townhouse/condo/urban tiny yard home in downtown Minneapolis, AND a cabin on lake in Northern MN ( someplace between Brainerd and Bemidji)

pete, that's too cold.  c'mon now, you're giving up.

No they have loads of tunnels and stuff.  I really love MN in the summer, I could just stay in doors for 7 months...that's doable.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: sys on June 23, 2013, 03:39:24 PM
I could just stay in doors for 7 months.

well, you could do that anywhere.
Title: Re: Re: Best States
Post by: mocat on June 23, 2013, 03:40:57 PM
I think my best choice is a townhouse/condo/urban tiny yard home in downtown Minneapolis, AND a cabin on lake in Northern MN ( someplace between Brainerd and Bemidji)

pete, that's too cold.  c'mon now, you're giving up.
I really love MN in the summer

Gross. Do mosquitoes not bother you or something?
Title: Best States
Post by: Pete on June 23, 2013, 03:41:12 PM
I could just stay in doors for 7 months.

well, you could do that anywhere.

Not where you get 5 - 6 months of gorgeous weather in exchange! 

May - October are heaven in MN and WI
Title: Best States
Post by: Pete on June 23, 2013, 03:42:24 PM
Michigan prolly fits this too, but MN and WI are closer to family here, so I will stick with those.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: OregonSmock on June 23, 2013, 03:43:49 PM
the key is to be on non-extreme weather coasts. vancouver, san fran, savannah, charleston, etc.


Portland fits this description.  People think it rains a lot here, but honestly, it's just overcast a few days a week with a light drizzle.  We don't have thunderstorms or huge rain showers very often, and it rains here way less than it does in Seattle (plus it's warmer).  San Fran is overcast all the time thanks to the ocean, and Vancouver is just a colder version of Seattle. 
Title: Best States
Post by: Pete on June 23, 2013, 03:44:10 PM
I mean, it's rough ridin' unbearable outside in Joco right now, and will not get better until mid September
Title: Re: Re: Best States
Post by: 8manpick on June 23, 2013, 03:44:45 PM
I could just stay in doors for 7 months.

well, you could do that anywhere.

Not where you get 5 - 6 months of gorgeous weather in exchange! 

May - October are heaven in MN and WI

The only time I went to Minnesota, it was snowing in May.
Title: Best States
Post by: Pete on June 23, 2013, 03:45:48 PM
the key is to be on non-extreme weather coasts. vancouver, san fran, savannah, charleston, etc.


Portland fits this description.  People think it rains a lot here, but honestly, it's just overcast a few days a week with a light drizzle.  We don't have thunderstorms or huge rain showers very often, and it rains here way less than it does in Seattle (plus it's warmer).  San Fran is overcast all the time thanks to the ocean, and Vancouver is just a colder version of Seattle.
I really like the sound of Portland...sounds the most promising of all the West Coast places (SD and SF being cost prohibitive)
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: sys on June 23, 2013, 03:46:17 PM
Portland fits this description.

too far from the ocean = too continental.  might as well just live in kansas.

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Title: Best States
Post by: Pete on June 23, 2013, 03:47:27 PM
I could just stay in doors for 7 months.

well, you could do that anywhere.

Not where you get 5 - 6 months of gorgeous weather in exchange! 

May - October are heaven in MN and WI

The only time I went to Minnesota, it was snowing in May.

The ice didn't melt on the lake at my in-laws' cabin until early May this year.  Walleye opener is typically May 15 or so, an that's frequently sweatshirt weather...love it.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: kim carnes on June 23, 2013, 03:47:34 PM
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Title: Re: Best States
Post by: Trim on June 23, 2013, 03:56:50 PM
the key is to be on non-extreme weather coasts. vancouver, san fran, savannah, charleston, etc.


Portland fits this description.  People think it rains a lot here, but honestly, it's just overcast a few days a week with a light drizzle.  We don't have thunderstorms or huge rain showers very often, and it rains here way less than it does in Seattle (plus it's warmer).  San Fran is overcast all the time thanks to the ocean, and Vancouver is just a colder version of Seattle. 

Beems, you have 20 minutes before you can expect rain.  And coincidentally, tonight's looking like one of those rare showers situations.

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Title: Best States
Post by: Pete on June 23, 2013, 04:04:38 PM
My tour boat captain in Seattle told me there are only two cloudier cities than Seattle, some other town in Washington and some place in Alaska.

That seems dreary, doesn't it? Plus, I don't really like Salmon at all, and that seems to be one of the big pluses of living there.  However, I do like chowder a bunch and they had loads of that.

I won't rule it out, Trim.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: michigancat on June 23, 2013, 04:16:35 PM
sys, Oakland is only a little warmer than SF, but much cheaper and sunnier
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 23, 2013, 04:33:12 PM
my wifes bro and wife live in a town just south of portland. the thing that they say they both miss the most about ks is that you get rain but you don't get any thunderstorms. like it just rains and is boring rain. i take this to mean that there isn't much that they miss about ks but they both really seem to mean it.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: ChiComCat on June 23, 2013, 04:58:32 PM
sys, Oakland is only a little warmer than SF, but much cheaper and sunnier

Berkley seemed to have some of the college town plusses and stones throw to San Fran.  San Fran isn't warm enough for me.  Would do Napa in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: sys on June 23, 2013, 05:05:06 PM
sys, Oakland is only a little warmer than SF, but much cheaper and sunnier

my firm has an office in san jose, but if i lived in the east bay i'd have a two hour commute and i'd spend three times as much on housing as in fresno.  if they'd even transfer me.

i'd rather suffer here for a few more years, then retire and expat it.  i shouldn't even say suffer, really.  the weather is fantastic here 8 months out of the year.  it's just a bad time right now.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: j-von on June 23, 2013, 05:09:15 PM
sys, Oakland is only a little warmer than SF, but much cheaper and sunnier

Berkley seemed to have some of the college town plusses and stones throw to San Fran.  San Fran isn't warm enough for me.  Would do Napa in a heartbeat.

Right now is a great time to buy there with the current prices.  I really liked the area, but California has royally screwed up the education system among other things.  You can still get great public schools in the bay area, but the prices are astronomical.

If I didn't have kids to worry about, Napa would be near the top of my list.
Title: Best States
Post by: Pete on June 23, 2013, 05:41:31 PM
Sys, how do you like Fresno?  I worked on a short project there years ago and didn't care for it...though no one ever showed me around and I was left to just kinda stay in the commercial areas.

I drove up to Yosemite and that was cool, but I am not a huge outdoorsman, obviously.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: star seed 7 on June 23, 2013, 06:38:56 PM
Kansas climate, worst in the country?  SEC land might be worse?  I dunno  :dunno:
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: fun muffin on June 23, 2013, 06:40:15 PM
Best state is Kansas.  Sorry Haters
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: sys on June 23, 2013, 07:27:38 PM
Sys, how do you like Fresno?  I worked on a short project there years ago and didn't care for it...though no one ever showed me around and I was left to just kinda stay in the commercial areas.

I drove up to Yosemite and that was cool, but I am not a huge outdoorsman, obviously.

it's ok.  i don't care about culture or stuff like that, though.  if i did, it'd be pretty bad.  the populace is very uneducated, and the town reflects that.  it's also an ugly city.  the climate is nice most of the year.  and i'm going to plant citrus trees, which makes me happy.

the sierras are ridiculously beautiful; too many people, like everywhere in california.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: michigancat on June 23, 2013, 08:02:23 PM
sys, Oakland is only a little warmer than SF, but much cheaper and sunnier

Berkley seemed to have some of the college town plusses and stones throw to San Fran.  San Fran isn't warm enough for me.  Would do Napa in a heartbeat.

Right now is a great time to buy there with the current prices.  I really liked the area, but California has royally screwed up the education system among other things.  You can still get great public schools in the bay area, but the prices are astronomical.

If I didn't have kids to worry about, Napa would be near the top of my list.

It's a horrible time to buy in the Bay Area. I know someone who bought a house 4 years ago and just sold it for $100k more than they paid for it, without even putting it on the market. Another friend sold a house for $40k over their asking price because their realtor insisted on two open houses. And their original asking price was like $650k for a 2 bed, 1.5 bath. My landlord had his house on the market for two weeks, sold it to buyers paying cash, and the buyers let them live there rent-free for 6 months after the contract was signed. Anecdotal, but there are numbers that support that.

http://blog.sfgate.com/ontheblock/2013/05/29/homes-prices-keep-on-ratcheting-up-as-bay-area-outpaces-national-growth/
http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_23465903/is-bay-area-housing-bubble-back

Basically everyone I know my age that doesn't have a parent bankrolling a loan isn't looking to buy any time soon because it's so ridiculously expensive. I think there's another bubble here. And most people I know that own admit to a parent giving them a loan on their first house.

Also, most public schools are really pretty shitty, even in places like Berkeley.

Of course, Napa could be different, it's not barely the Bay Area.

Title: Re: Best States
Post by: j-von on June 23, 2013, 08:30:11 PM
sys, Oakland is only a little warmer than SF, but much cheaper and sunnier

Berkley seemed to have some of the college town plusses and stones throw to San Fran.  San Fran isn't warm enough for me.  Would do Napa in a heartbeat.

Right now is a great time to buy there with the current prices.  I really liked the area, but California has royally screwed up the education system among other things.  You can still get great public schools in the bay area, but the prices are astronomical.

If I didn't have kids to worry about, Napa would be near the top of my list.

It's a horrible time to buy in the Bay Area. I know someone who bought a house 4 years ago and just sold it for $100k more than they paid for it, without even putting it on the market. Another friend sold a house for $40k over their asking price because their realtor insisted on two open houses. And their original asking price was like $650k for a 2 bed, 1.5 bath. My landlord had his house on the market for two weeks, sold it to buyers paying cash, and the buyers let them live there rent-free for 6 months after the contract was signed. Anecdotal, but there are numbers that support that.

http://blog.sfgate.com/ontheblock/2013/05/29/homes-prices-keep-on-ratcheting-up-as-bay-area-outpaces-national-growth/
http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_23465903/is-bay-area-housing-bubble-back

Basically everyone I know my age that doesn't have a parent bankrolling a loan isn't looking to buy any time soon because it's so ridiculously expensive. I think there's another bubble here. And most people I know that own admit to a parent giving them a loan on their first house.

Also, most public schools are really pretty shitty, even in places like Berkeley.

Of course, Napa could be different, it's not barely the Bay Area.

San Fran is quite a bit different than Napa and Sonoma as far as prices go but I'm definitely not an expert in the area. 

I was looking about a year ago and it looks like prices have risen quickly.  You can check out the graph here:

http://www.zillow.com/local-info/CA-Napa-home-value/r_6112/#metric=mt%3D34%26dt%3D1%26tp%3D6%26rt%3D8%26r%3D6112%26el%3D0
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: Trim on June 23, 2013, 10:10:41 PM
Lots of twitter chatter this weekend indicating Columbia, SC is the greatest place in the world.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: kstatefreak42 on June 23, 2013, 11:12:51 PM
Colorado and Washington :bigtoke:
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: michigancat on June 23, 2013, 11:14:29 PM
I read a while back that Minneapolis was the only metro area with a Top 15 per capita income that wasn't on a coast. Plus midwestern friendliness with reasonably progressive politics.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: kim carnes on June 23, 2013, 11:21:07 PM
I read a while back that Minneapolis was the only metro area with a Top 15 per capita income that wasn't on a coast. Plus midwestern friendliness with reasonably progressive politics.

Yikes
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 23, 2013, 11:31:30 PM
Was thinking of making Savannah next yes vacation for me and wife.  Sounds like we should def try it.

if you are wanting something active don't do it. it's super chillax. if you want to just stroll around and see hundreds of historical crazy old things and lounge in a park (where you can byob) and eat at really old shrimp and grits and seafood type places and whatnot it's the place for you. stay at the Andaz. don't stay anywhere else. well, maybe stay at the Bohemian Hotel if you don't stay at the Andaz. nowhere else though. also all the restaurants have plastic cup dispensers at the front door so you can bring your drink with you because that's legal (see byob at the city parks comment earlier).

The mansion on Forsyth I spent some time at was nice.  Bohemia was too holiday inny
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: eastcat on June 24, 2013, 02:11:51 AM
the key is to be on non-extreme weather coasts. vancouver, san fran, savannah, charleston, etc.


Portland fits this description.  People think it rains a lot here, but honestly, it's just overcast a few days a week with a light drizzle.  We don't have thunderstorms or huge rain showers very often, and it rains here way less than it does in Seattle (plus it's warmer).  San Fran is overcast all the time thanks to the ocean, and Vancouver is just a colder version of Seattle.

I disagree. Portland is overhyped way too hard. It's basically a larger version of Omaha with I heart Oregon bumper stickers and you can't pump your own gas. The hippie population is out of control and dumb conspiracy theorist dominate local politics. At least Seattle is truly a major city and not just a turd trying to act like one.

And the weather rough ridin' sucks. Especially september-may.

ETA Anchorage AK is actually not very cloudy most of the year, just cold cloudless days. Would be badass but it's pretty rough ridin' expensive.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 24, 2013, 10:15:31 AM
It's honestly remarkable how average Kansas is at everything.

We are elite when it comes to low birth weight. Only Alaska does it better.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: kstate16 on June 24, 2013, 10:41:21 AM
Kansas climate, worst in the country?  SEC land might be worse?  I dunno  :dunno:
Honestly, we might take the cake in worst climate.  SEC land doesn't have to deal with ungodly amounts of snow.  Also, consider the wind/chill factor and our winter suckiness probably outweighs their hot/humid summer suckiness. 
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: Super PurpleCat on June 24, 2013, 10:41:53 AM
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Sorry guys, I'm a bit late to this thread.  Let me see if I'm getting this right: Deep Red State South are bunch of dumb poors due to their ignorant ways.  Middle Red State Midwest are successful due to hard work and church stuff, East and West Coast are full of successful celebrity types who raise the average for masses of all the broken down godless Blue State heathens who live in shitty apartments in the city and beat people up at union meetings.

I'm probably wrong but I ain't got time to read stuff.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: michigancat on June 24, 2013, 10:46:22 AM
Kansas climate, worst in the country?  SEC land might be worse?  I dunno  :dunno:
Honestly, we might take the cake in worst climate.  SEC land doesn't have to deal with ungodly amounts of snow.  Also, consider the wind/chill factor and our winter suckiness probably outweighs their hot/humid summer suckiness. 

Yeah. And I think the occasional 50 degree days in the winter make the winters worse. (along with the wind, obvs.)
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: OregonSmock on June 24, 2013, 12:58:02 PM
the key is to be on non-extreme weather coasts. vancouver, san fran, savannah, charleston, etc.


Portland fits this description.  People think it rains a lot here, but honestly, it's just overcast a few days a week with a light drizzle.  We don't have thunderstorms or huge rain showers very often, and it rains here way less than it does in Seattle (plus it's warmer).  San Fran is overcast all the time thanks to the ocean, and Vancouver is just a colder version of Seattle.

I disagree. Portland is overhyped way too hard. It's basically a larger version of Omaha with I heart Oregon bumper stickers and you can't pump your own gas. The hippie population is out of control and dumb conspiracy theorist dominate local politics. At least Seattle is truly a major city and not just a turd trying to act like one.

And the weather rough ridin' sucks. Especially september-may.

ETA Anchorage AK is actually not very cloudy most of the year, just cold cloudless days. Would be badass but it's pretty rough ridin' expensive.



Portland is one of the best kept secrets in the US.  It's way less hyped than places like Denver, and it's way more chill.  The weather is pretty much temperate all year round, and the summers are perfect.  I disagree with pretty much everything you said.  The weather from September - May was great this past year.  In fact, I'd say September is probably the nicest month of the year for Portland.  The "hippie population" is out of control to a certain extent, but no less out of control than the crazy nut job population in states like Kansas and Texas.

Seattle is cool in small doses, but there's too much traffic, and too much of a fishy smell in that city.  Seattle is also about 5-10 degrees cooler than Portland, and way more rainy.   
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: pissclams on June 24, 2013, 01:08:37 PM
i like the rain, hell i might even love it.  i bet i'd be in hog's heaven up there in seattle, wa.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: sys on June 24, 2013, 01:44:42 PM
missouri has worse weather than kansas.


bmw, does portland get much fog?  fog is the best weather in the world.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: pissclams on June 24, 2013, 01:46:59 PM
fog is pretty great unless you're out driving in it then things can get a little dicey.  it's like, "hey lights, come the eff on over here you losers, let me see through the fog!!"   :curse:
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 24, 2013, 01:47:18 PM
missouri has worse weather than kansas.


bmw, does portland get much fog?  fog is the best weather in the world.

Not when it makes you get stuck in Fresno for like a rough ridin' week.
Title: Best States
Post by: Pete on June 24, 2013, 02:12:36 PM
I am team beams on this one, guys.  If I move to Portland someday I will TSC my ass off with beams and laugh at you losers sitting in the rain in Seattle.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: star seed 7 on June 24, 2013, 02:58:33 PM
Portland is where I plan to focus my job search after I graduate.   It's still too hot there, but better than kc.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: michigancat on June 24, 2013, 02:59:21 PM
Portland is where I plan to focus my job search after I graduate.   It's still too hot there, but better than kc.

hard to find jobs there. You should try the Bay instead.

*edit* I mean you should look at the Bay, ALSO. Definitely try for Portland. Might as well look at LA, too. LA is great.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 24, 2013, 03:04:06 PM
i like the rain, hell i might even love it.  i bet i'd be in hog's heaven up there in seattle, wa.

Me too, clams. The best part about living in Seattle would be the rain. I would just whistle the whole way to work with a big smile on my face every single day if I lived in Seattle. Also, tons of people commit suicide there, so if somebody really just made me angry at work, I think it would be pretty easy to just shrug my shoulders and assume that person would eventually just become a statistic anyway.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: eastcat on June 24, 2013, 03:28:44 PM
the key is to be on non-extreme weather coasts. vancouver, san fran, savannah, charleston, etc.


Portland fits this description.  People think it rains a lot here, but honestly, it's just overcast a few days a week with a light drizzle.  We don't have thunderstorms or huge rain showers very often, and it rains here way less than it does in Seattle (plus it's warmer).  San Fran is overcast all the time thanks to the ocean, and Vancouver is just a colder version of Seattle.

I disagree. Portland is overhyped way too hard. It's basically a larger version of Omaha with I heart Oregon bumper stickers and you can't pump your own gas. The hippie population is out of control and dumb conspiracy theorist dominate local politics. At least Seattle is truly a major city and not just a turd trying to act like one.

And the weather rough ridin' sucks. Especially september-may.

ETA Anchorage AK is actually not very cloudy most of the year, just cold cloudless days. Would be badass but it's pretty rough ridin' expensive.



Portland is one of the best kept secrets in the US.  It's way less hyped than places like Denver, and it's way more chill.  The weather is pretty much temperate all year round, and the summers are perfect.  I disagree with pretty much everything you said.  The weather from September - May was great this past year.  In fact, I'd say September is probably the nicest month of the year for Portland.  The "hippie population" is out of control to a certain extent, but no less out of control than the crazy nut job population in states like Kansas and Texas.

Seattle is cool in small doses, but there's too much traffic, and too much of a fishy smell in that city.  Seattle is also about 5-10 degrees cooler than Portland, and way more rainy.
:lol:


God must have changed it since I lived there 4 years ago, and hide it when I go to visit the fam.

Portland has an aggressively liberal tone to it that I can only describe as similar to the racial hate in the south. There are bums EVERYWHERE, it is the only place I have seen homeless men get away with exposing themselves and pissing on buildings in broad daylight in public while the police sit and watch. People are either poor as eff or from California and annoying as eff. The weather sucks and the people show it, everyone is paste white and half the population dresses in flannel like it's 1993. The winters are grey and dreary, it has a very dead-end vibe. The trees get old, the ocean is too cold and seeing hood in the distance (on the days you actually can) wears off pretty quick.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 24, 2013, 03:30:43 PM

 :lol:


God must have changed it since I lived there 4 years ago, and hide it when I go to visit the fam.

Portland has an aggressively liberal tone to it that I can only describe as similar to the racial hate in the south. There are bums EVERYWHERE, it is the only place I have seen homeless men get away with exposing themselves and pissing on buildings in broad daylight in public while the police sit and watch. People are either poor as eff or from California and annoying as eff. The weather sucks and the people show it, everyone is paste white and half the population dresses in flannel like it's 1993. The winters are grey and dreary, it has a very dead-end vibe. The trees get old, the ocean is too cold and seeing hood in the distance (on the days you actually can) wears off pretty quick.

That sounds pretty amazing, other than the bums peeing all over the place.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: star seed 7 on June 24, 2013, 03:31:22 PM
Portland is where I plan to focus my job search after I graduate.   It's still too hot there, but better than kc.

hard to find jobs there. You should try the Bay instead.

*edit* I mean you should look at the Bay, ALSO. Definitely try for Portland. Might as well look at LA, too. LA is great.

open to the bay as well because it's awesome and family lives there, but it's so expensive.  going to try and get an internship somewhere there next year, maybe cRustyMichiMichicat can help  :peek:

i pretty much hate la though, just not my scene man.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: OregonSmock on June 24, 2013, 03:37:24 PM
i like the rain, hell i might even love it.  i bet i'd be in hog's heaven up there in seattle, wa.


Yeah, Seattle's pretty damn cool, especially if you like the rain.  I do miss the thunderstorms in the Midwest, though. 


missouri has worse weather than kansas.


bmw, does portland get much fog?  fog is the best weather in the world.


Oh yeah... Portland gets especially foggy at night.  It fogs up quite a bit on Mt. Hood as well.  You'd love it, sys.


I am team beams on this one, guys.  If I move to Portland someday I will TSC my ass off with beams and laugh at you losers sitting in the rain in Seattle.


 :tsc:


Portland is where I plan to focus my job search after I graduate.   It's still too hot there, but better than kc.

hard to find jobs there. You should try the Bay instead.

*edit* I mean you should look at the Bay, ALSO. Definitely try for Portland. Might as well look at LA, too. LA is great.


True... jobs are a little tough to come by, but Nike and Intel are always hiring, so that's a plus.  Seattle is probably a little better when it comes to finding good jobs (Boeing and Microsoft are both big up there).



Portland is where I plan to focus my job search after I graduate.   It's still too hot there, but better than kc.


That's awesome, seven.  I'd be happy to help if you have any questions.  I'm not sure what your degree is in, but I can tell you that there are tons of computer engineering companies out here.  Also, Nike has a bunch of internship opportunities if you look on their website.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: mocat on June 24, 2013, 03:46:19 PM
missouri has worse weather than kansas.

what does that even mean?
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: star seed 7 on June 24, 2013, 03:47:53 PM
That's awesome, seven.  I'd be happy to help if you have any questions.  I'm not sure what your degree is in, but I can tell you that there are tons of computer engineering companies out here.  Also, Nike has a bunch of internship opportunities if you look on their website.

not that kind of engineer.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: star seed 7 on June 24, 2013, 03:49:05 PM
missouri has worse weather than kansas.

what does that even mean?

means MUCK FIZZOU, RIGHT BEEMS!   :tsc:
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: sys on June 24, 2013, 06:06:33 PM
missouri has worse weather than kansas.

what does that even mean?

temps are just as bad, but with more humidity.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: sys on June 24, 2013, 06:11:10 PM
Portland gets especially foggy at night.  It fogs up quite a bit on Mt. Hood as well.  You'd love it, sys.

if i was going to live in the us, oregon would be in the top 5 of states i'd consider living in.  never been there, but it sounds great.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: michigancat on June 24, 2013, 07:15:20 PM
Portland is where I plan to focus my job search after I graduate.   It's still too hot there, but better than kc.

hard to find jobs there. You should try the Bay instead.

*edit* I mean you should look at the Bay, ALSO. Definitely try for Portland. Might as well look at LA, too. LA is great.

open to the bay as well because it's awesome and family lives there, but it's so expensive.  going to try and get an internship somewhere there next year, maybe cRustyMichiMichicat can help  :peek:

i pretty much hate la though, just not my scene man.

well, yeah, people make more money in SF, too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highest-income_metropolitan_statistical_areas_in_the_United_States

Hating LA is tired and silly. It's HUGE and you would be able to find your niche.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: Paul Moscow on June 24, 2013, 07:35:48 PM
Portland is where I plan to focus my job search after I graduate.   It's still too hot there, but better than kc.

hard to find jobs there. You should try the Bay instead.

*edit* I mean you should look at the Bay, ALSO. Definitely try for Portland. Might as well look at LA, too. LA is great.

open to the bay as well because it's awesome and family lives there, but it's so expensive.  going to try and get an internship somewhere there next year, maybe cRustyMichiMichicat can help  :peek:

i pretty much hate la though, just not my scene man.

well, yeah, people make more money in SF, too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highest-income_metropolitan_statistical_areas_in_the_United_States

Hating LA is tired and silly. It's HUGE and you would be able to find your niche.

LA has a lot of benefits. Just yesterday surfed early in the morning, hiked round noon and rode light rail from the westside to downtown with my bike and enjoyed the city without worrying about traffic in between. Its not as easy to like LA as it is NY, SF, or even New Orleans  but its too big and too diverse not to find something you like.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: Lynchmobrules on June 25, 2013, 12:45:49 PM
Portland is where I plan to focus my job search after I graduate.   It's still too hot there, but better than kc.

hard to find jobs there. You should try the Bay instead.

*edit* I mean you should look at the Bay, ALSO. Definitely try for Portland. Might as well look at LA, too. LA is great.

open to the bay as well because it's awesome and family lives there, but it's so expensive.  going to try and get an internship somewhere there next year, maybe cRustyMichiMichicat can help  :peek:

i pretty much hate la though, just not my scene man.

well, yeah, people make more money in SF, too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highest-income_metropolitan_statistical_areas_in_the_United_States

Hating LA is tired and silly. It's HUGE and you would be able to find your niche.

LA has a lot of benefits. Just yesterday surfed early in the morning, hiked round noon and rode light rail from the westside to downtown with my bike and enjoyed the city without worrying about traffic in between. Its not as easy to like LA as it is NY, SF, or even New Orleans  but its too big and too diverse not to find something you like.

LA is my absolute favorite city in the country.  Hoping to live there someday.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: eastcat on June 25, 2013, 01:04:13 PM
San Diego > L.A.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: Fldermaus on June 25, 2013, 01:11:43 PM
i like the rain, hell i might even love it.  i bet i'd be in hog's heaven up there in seattle, wa.

Yeah, Seattle's pretty damn cool, especially if you like the rain.  I do miss the thunderstorms in the Midwest, though. 


I miss the thunderstorms a lot, too.
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: michigancat on June 25, 2013, 01:47:13 PM
San Diego > L.A.

:lol:
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: Trim on June 25, 2013, 05:36:42 PM
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:runaway:
Title: Best States
Post by: Tobias on June 25, 2013, 07:10:10 PM
be safe, beems
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: pissclams on June 26, 2013, 08:49:49 AM
San Diego > L.A.
good grief
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: chum1 on June 26, 2013, 10:12:31 AM
Memphis > San Diego
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: kstate16 on June 26, 2013, 10:15:02 AM
Why the hate for San Diego?
Title: Re: Best States
Post by: pissclams on June 26, 2013, 10:43:59 AM
Why the hate for San Diego?

who said they hate san diego? the answer is no one in this thread.