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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: pvegs on May 30, 2013, 01:30:56 AM
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This quote actually makes me hopeful. Maybe I'm just too amped over Sams and the football castle.
"A couple of thoughts I have for those who are concerned with our defense. I understand, but I also understand that we might just be faster and more athletic across the board on defense than we were in 2012, except at Arthur's spot. Think about it, our two defensive tackles were not real talented. It is very convievable that we will be better at DT than we were last year, as Britz, Reed, Hood, Seiwert, Brown and Roberts all show promise. Also remember, Meshak wasn't even a starter in 2011. He was a situational pass rusher in our sub package. He exploded as a senior. However, I am pretty confident in saying that both Jordan Willis and Tanner Wood are both bigger and more athletic than Meshak or Davis. Now, those guys were seniors, but eventually I see Willis and Wood as better players, and I didn't even mention our sub package pass rusher last year, Mueller, our highest rated defensive juco recruit in Nash, and returners like Finau and Bryant. I also don't think people understand how big it is to return Zimmerman. He is the QB of that defense. Our other secondary guys will be faster and more athletic than Nigel and Bubba I think. Our defense has questions because of experience, but I think by midseason they will be pretty dang good."
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Regardless if they are talented or not they ARE new. Newbie's make mistakes.
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the "meshak didnt start in 2011" talking point is rough ridin' stupid, we cant replace him this year
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Losing Arthur is probably worth 2 games.
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Losing Arthur is probably worth 2 games.
would take
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yes, but the patchwork group will do just enough non-breaking to get us some Ws.
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NOPE
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has Nash still been underwhelming?
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Our defense is going to suck.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NNPSgEm5-w&feature=youtu.be
:dunno:
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Our defense is going to suck.
I kind of think this too. But like totally am crossing my fingers for some kind of miracle of LHC Bill Snyder proportions.
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Zimmerman will cover some holes but there will be too many for him to cover. A couple of games will get away from us
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Zimmerman will make some much needed touchdown saves, but he can't be everywhere on the field. Our secondary will give up a touchdown a game that we shouldn't.
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has Nash still been underwhelming?
elaborate pls
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has Nash still been underwhelming?
elaborate pls
there were reports that he wasn't impressive at all in the spring practices.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NNPSgEm5-w&feature=youtu.be
:dunno:
That shirt.
:love: :love:
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Tre was not good last year. He better be good this year.
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No one ever mentions Evans as a key returning player. I thought he was pretty great last year and was a very consistent performer.
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I think our DB's are athletic as hell. That Barnett kid is Team Burner team captain.
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Highly likely our defense regresses to 2010. It's going to suck not having a linebacker who can run down everyone on the opposing offense.
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we will have a bottom 1/3 big 12 D.
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we will have a bottom 1/3 big 12 D.
conference lost a lot of firepower thankfully.
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Defense will be better than last year... Mark it down.
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Defense will be better than last year... Mark it down.
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I submitted an idea to Currie about having the Lynch Mob adopt AC DC's Thunderstruck as their anthem so that every time the Mob takes the field, we get it full blast from the BSFS speakers. Would be so badass.
Mob makes a big play? Stadium cheers/chants: nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh
Three and out? Stadium cheers/chants: nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh
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I Don't See It Being Worse Than 2011.
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YA YA YA!
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I Don't See It Being Worse Than 2011.
Would definitely take :thumbs:
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I Don't See It Being Worse Than 2011.
This is my benchmark too, which I think gets us to 8-9 wins.
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:combofan: :billdance: :bang: :bang:
If the K-State Defense is good this year, it will be for the first time in the last decade. I'm ready to give up on these losers.
If the Cats win more than 8 games this year, I'll shave my chest hair and wear it as a mustache for a week.
:flush:
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I Don't See It Being Worse Than 2011.
This is my benchmark too, which I think gets us to 8-9 wins.
:cheese:
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Yeah the original quote was highly (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fforum%2FSmileys%2FgoEMAW%2Fpowerespect.png&hash=abfba97a03eb13de36936e74925d9bfa03c2dc21). Our defense may be okay, and good in the future, but I would not expect a lot this year.
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I Don't See It Being Worse Than 2011.
It will be worse then 2011 but better then 2010 . Probably something like 2009 if you can remember back that far. This team will be better on offense and better overall then 2009 was.
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I Don't See It Being Worse Than 2011.
It will be worse then 2011 but better then 2010 . Probably something like 2009 if you can remember back that far. This team will be better on offense and better overall then 2009 was.
I mean I would rough ridin' hope so. Snyder has been here a while and had a lot of success, enough to raise the expectation bar higher than his first season back.
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I think the real question is:
Will the offense be good enough to keep the defense off the field? :ohno: :pray:
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I think the real question is:
Will the offense be good enough to keep the defense off the field? :ohno: :pray:
I'm not concerned at all about the offense. If anything, I'm sort of concerned that they might score so fast that our defense has to come back onto the field before they get a good breather.
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I think the real question is:
Will the offense be good enough to keep the defense off the field? :ohno: :pray:
I'm not concerned at all about the offense. If anything, I'm sort of concerned that they might score so fast that our defense has to come back onto the field before they get a good breather.
:horrorsurprise:
RUN MORE CLOCK DAMNIT SAMS! :shakesfist:
HUBERT STOP BREAKING OFF HUGE RUNS! :shakesfist:
GRONK QUIT GRONKIN' IT UP ALL THE TIME! :shakesfist:
TYLER, IF YOU SCORE ONE MORE rough ridin' JET SWEEP I WILL ASSAULT YOU! :shakesfist:
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The correct answer is "yes." Sims/Pierson/Miller are going to run wild on the cat's defense next year. Can't wait!
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The correct answer is "yes." Sims/Pierson/Miller are going to run wild on the cat's defense next year. Can't wait!
BITB beems is at it again
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The correct answer is "yes." Sims/Pierson/Miller are going to run wild on the cat's defense next year. Can't wait!
KU will abandon the run late in the first quarter, when they're down by 4 tds to the Cats
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The correct answer is "yes." Sims/Pierson/Miller are going to run wild on the cat's defense next year. Can't wait!
KU will abandon the run late in the first quarter, when they're down by 4 tds to the Cats
It's the last game of the regular season. KU's team will have already given up on their season and their fans will be in basketball mode. 90% of the stadium is going to be purple.
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Guys, I was just trying to gauge what everyone thinks of the theory that we will actually be more athletic on D this year than last year. Please don't let this turn into yet another offseason thread where Beems holds court and the original issue is forgotten.
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Guys, I was just trying to gauge what everyone thinks of the theory that we will actually be more athletic on D this year than last year. Please don't this turn into yet another offseason thread where Beems holds court and the original issue is forgotten.
That theory is just wrong.
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The correct answer is "yes." Sims/Pierson/Miller are going to run wild on the cat's defense next year. Can't wait!
Does KU have a anyone left on the roster that hasn't quit, transferred, or been through a lengthy suspension?
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I Don't See It Being Worse Than 2011.
I don't see it being anywhere near as good as 2011. 2011 had AB, all american Nigel, and a solid DL with Kibble, Meshak, and Adam Davis. Like someone said, it will probably be like the 2009 defense.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NNPSgEm5-w&feature=youtu.be
:dunno:
How did they get the first name DeMarcus confused with Henry?
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I Don't See It Being Worse Than 2011.
I don't see it being anywhere near as good as 2011. 2011 had AB, all american Nigel, and a solid DL with Kibble, Meshak, and Adam Davis. Like someone said, it will probably be like the 2009 defense.
I can't do that shitty of a defense again guys. That crap was painful to watch
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I Don't See It Being Worse Than 2011.
I don't see it being anywhere near as good as 2011. 2011 had AB, all american Nigel, and a solid DL with Kibble, Meshak, and Adam Davis. Like someone said, it will probably be like the 2009 defense.
Nigel, Meshak, Davis and ABJ were all new and Kibble and Guidry had breakout seasons. There is no reason to think we won't see breakout seasons this year with Mueller, Britz, Nash and others. ABJ is a freak and won't be replaced but Zimmerman's experience will help with his loss. Also, Hayes has now had his hands on the defense for two years whereas he was just coming in for the 2011 season.
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I Don't See It Being Worse Than 2011.
I don't see it being anywhere near as good as 2011. 2011 had AB, all american Nigel, and a solid DL with Kibble, Meshak, and Adam Davis. Like someone said, it will probably be like the 2009 defense.
Nigel, Meshak, Davis and ABJ were all new and Kibble and Guidry had breakout seasons. There is no reason to think we won't see breakout seasons this year with Mueller, Britz, Nash and others. ABJ is a freak and won't be replaced but Zimmerman's experience will help with his loss. Also, Hayes has now had his hands on the defense for two years whereas he was just coming in for the 2011 season.
I hope you're right. But ABJ is a stud. We have no stud LBs.
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I love Tre, but holy rough ridin' dramatic video. An ACL tear is a fairly normal football injury. He didn't get Gary Bertier'd.
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I was stumblin' around drunk down on next years defense, and I thought if they could only be 09' bad I'd be ok. Then I looked at that 09' defense, realized this group was better, and felt :D
Look at the starting line up in 09'
DE: Payton Kirk
DE: Eric Childs?
DT: Jeffrey Fitzgerald(stud)
DT: ???
LB: John Houlik(this guy was like 5'9)
LB: Alex Hrebec(slow as molasses, stutterer, 5 heart)
CB: Josh Moore(stud, but dumb)
CB:Stephen Harrison(I liked him)
S: Tysyn Hartman
S:???
That's only ten guys, but they basically only played with ten.
This defense is umpteen times better.
We will be good :emawkid:
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I was stumblin' around drunk down on next years defense, and I thought if they could only be 09' bad I'd be ok. Then I looked at that 09' defense, realized this group was better, and felt :D
Look at the starting line up in 09'
DE: Payton Kirk
DE: Eric Childs?
DT: Jeffrey Fitzgerald(stud)
DT: ???
LB: John Houlik(this guy was like 5'9)
LB: Alex Hrebec(slow as molasses, stutterer, 5 heart)
CB: Josh Moore(stud, but dumb)
CB:Stephen Harrison(I liked him)
S: Tysyn Hartman
S:???
That's only ten guys, but they basically only played with ten.
This defense is umpteen times better.
We will be good :emawkid:
Would be awesome if we were good.
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I'll be ecstatic if our defense is mediocre.
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I think Slaughter is going to totes step it up and be all good and stuff. And folks will be like, "omg, Blake Slaughter, right? where did he come from?" And then the camera will switch to Arthur off in the distance in street clothes, arms crossed, just nodding with a huge grin on his face.
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I think Slaughter is going to totes step it up and be all good and stuff. And folks will be like, "omg, Blake Slaughter, right? where did he come from?" And then the camera will switch to Arthur off in the distance in street clothes, arms crossed, just nodding with a huge grin on his face.
he's sucked for the last 6 years, tho.
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I submitted an idea to Currie about having the Lynch Mob adopt AC DC's Thunderstruck as their anthem so that every time the Mob takes the field, we get it full blast from the BSFS speakers. Would be so badass.
Mob makes a big play? Stadium cheers/chants: nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh
Three and out? Stadium cheers/chants: nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh
the fact that nobody has yet commented on this gem tells me the board is slippin.......as to Thunderstuck ...a big fat :thumbsup: and Frank's band could help on "the sound of the drums" part......
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I love Tre, but holy rough ridin' dramatic video. An ACL tear is a fairly normal football injury. He didn't get Gary Bertier'd.
really hope we could start using this as a benchmark to indicate the seriousness of injuries
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I think Slaughter is going to totes step it up and be all good and stuff. And folks will be like, "omg, Blake Slaughter, right? where did he come from?" And then the camera will switch to Arthur off in the distance in street clothes, arms crossed, just nodding with a huge grin on his face.
he's sucked for the last 6 years, tho.
Prof. Arthur tho
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IMO the mob should do just fine. Yeah, there are plenty of new guys but most of them good some good playing time after the Cats sodomized most of the teams last year in that second string rotation. You'll see plenty of Zimmerman, Mueller, Walker and Evans. Im confident in them plus the youngins.
And to the haters of Walker, I believe this is his year. Both he and Zimms will be leaders on the field. After Tre's injury last year, he grew into one of the teams vocal leaders.
Even if the mob does not do so hot, the offense will surly pick what the defense cant cover. Go cats
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I think Slaughter is going to totes step it up and be all good and stuff. And folks will be like, "omg, Blake Slaughter, right? where did he come from?" And then the camera will switch to Arthur off in the distance in street clothes, arms crossed, just nodding with a huge grin on his face.
Descended from the mythical cross of a rhinoceros and Mark Simoneau
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are there any really dominant defenses in the big 12? would be sweet if this was another 2008 type big 12 year with just ridiculous scores and yardage totals that make sec fans angry.
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are there any really dominant defenses in the big 12? would be sweet if this was another 2008 type big 12 year with just ridiculous scores and yardage totals that make sec fans angry.
SEC mad bruh? :gocho:
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We can get by at CB with Daily, Evans, Miles Jr., and Roberts. Safety will be alright if somebody can step up along with Zimm. LB and D-Line are the question marks. Is Truman starting LB quality? Don't get my started with DT, even though I think Chaq Reed will have a breakout season
Please become eligible three JUCO dlinemen :pray:
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Is Truman starting LB quality?
:dunno:
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are there any really dominant defenses in the big 12? would be sweet if this was another 2008 type big 12 year with just ridiculous scores and yardage totals that make sec fans angry.
I am not sure we will see typical Big 12 offenses this year. I only think of OSU's offense as a sure thing. UT's has the pieces but Ash has is still a question mark in my mind and TCU was pretty bad against the better defenses it faced and I think the Pachall/Boykin thing could become a big distraction.
The rest of the conference will all have new QBs - compare that to '09 where more than half the league had talented QBs. McCoy, Gabbert, Landry, Reesing, Potts and even Jerod Johnson at A&M look to be better than the majority of the QBs in the league this year.
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are there any really dominant defenses in the big 12? would be sweet if this was another 2008 type big 12 year with just ridiculous scores and yardage totals that make sec fans angry.
:thumbs: I love it when SEC fans fume about Big 12 offensive prowess and claim it isn't real football. This always makes me happy.
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are there any really dominant defenses in the big 12? would be sweet if this was another 2008 type big 12 year with just ridiculous scores and yardage totals that make sec fans angry.
:thumbs: I love it when SEC fans fume about Big 12 offensive prowess and claim it isn't real football. This always makes me happy.
Gotta give credit where credit is due, it's very fun to watch Aggie's Big 12-style offense humiliate SEC defenses. They look incredibly average when they don't get 5+ weeks to prepare for the best offense they're going to see all season.
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Blake Slaughter lived in my dorm last year. Nice guy
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With "bend but don't break", having someone with Zimmerman's experience to make sure people are in the right spots will be a big plus. To get the mistake needed to kill a drive though, our pass rush is going to need to exist which is my biggest concern.
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To get the mistake needed to kill a drive though, our pass rush is going to need to exist which is my biggest concern.
Our pass rush has always been disappointing. Even last year qbs had some ridiculous time in the pocket against us.
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With "bend but don't break", having someone with Zimmerman's experience to make sure people are in the right spots will be a big plus. To get the mistake needed to kill a drive though, our pass rush is going to need to exist which is my biggest concern.
Pass rush... you are you kidding. :lol:
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NDSU rushing offense will test your D .
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NDSU rushing offense will test your D .
We aren't worried about your NAIA rushing offense
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Not very concerned about this, I mean really the system is back to full on Snyder recruits almost and there are many experienced players back on the field even if they weren't starters. Everyone is acting like we're putting freshly graduated high school kids on the field.
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If we'd been able to keep Spaight and Campbell I'd be much more confident about this defense.
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How much improvement can we expect from the D this year, given that the main problem is talent/footspeed? People seem to have left it for dead and favored talking about Sams/Waters/offensive adjustments. Any chance Johnson/Moore work their way into the LB corps and make a difference? C. Brown, Willis, etc steps in to actually provide some playmaking?
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How much improvement can we expect from the D this year, given that the main problem is talent/footspeed? People seem to have left it for dead and favored talking about Sams/Waters/offensive adjustments. Any chance Johnson/Moore work their way into the LB corps and make a difference? C. Brown, Willis, etc steps in to actually provide some playmaking?
Kind of like trying to rearrange the living room when the rest of the house is going up in flames
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How much improvement can we expect from the D this year, given that the main problem is talent/footspeed? People seem to have left it for dead and favored talking about Sams/Waters/offensive adjustments. Any chance Johnson/Moore work their way into the LB corps and make a difference? C. Brown, Willis, etc steps in to actually provide some playmaking?
We need to run the ball early and often to limit the D's exposure. It's the only way we are going to remain in games against good teams.
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How much improvement can we expect from the D this year, given that the main problem is talent/footspeed? People seem to have left it for dead and favored talking about Sams/Waters/offensive adjustments. Any chance Johnson/Moore work their way into the LB corps and make a difference? C. Brown, Willis, etc steps in to actually provide some playmaking?
We need to run the ball early and often to limit the D's exposure. It's the only way we are going to remain in games against good teams.
But what if other teams take that route, like NDSU did in their last drive. This will kill us for the rest of the season, if that happens IMHO.
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How much improvement can we expect from the D this year, given that the main problem is talent/footspeed? People seem to have left it for dead and favored talking about Sams/Waters/offensive adjustments. Any chance Johnson/Moore work their way into the LB corps and make a difference? C. Brown, Willis, etc steps in to actually provide some playmaking?
We need to run the ball early and often to limit the D's exposure. It's the only way we are going to remain in games against good teams.
But what if other teams take that route, like NDSU did in their last drive. This will kill us for the rest of the season, if that happens IMHO.
It didn't kill NDSU. They took that route and won because our passing offense consistently set us up with 3rd and long.
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How much improvement can we expect from the D this year, given that the main problem is talent/footspeed? People seem to have left it for dead and favored talking about Sams/Waters/offensive adjustments. Any chance Johnson/Moore work their way into the LB corps and make a difference? C. Brown, Willis, etc steps in to actually provide some playmaking?
We need to run the ball early and often to limit the D's exposure. It's the only way we are going to remain in games against good teams.
But what if other teams take that route, like NDSU did in their last drive. This will kill us for the rest of the season, if that happens IMHO.
It didn't kill NDSU. They took that route and won because our passing offense consistently set us up with 3rd and long.
If the other teams decides to control the clock, it could kill our only chance at winning. Snyder made this public info last year, so the secert is out. We're DOOMED! :White flag:
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Just based on speed, I bet Dakorey gets a look. Hopefully Moore too.
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How much improvement can we expect from the D this year, given that the main problem is talent/footspeed? People seem to have left it for dead and favored talking about Sams/Waters/offensive adjustments. Any chance Johnson/Moore work their way into the LB corps and make a difference? C. Brown, Willis, etc steps in to actually provide some playmaking?
We need to run the ball early and often to limit the D's exposure. It's the only way we are going to remain in games against good teams.
But what if other teams take that route, like NDSU did in their last drive. This will kill us for the rest of the season, if that happens IMHO.
It didn't kill NDSU. They took that route and won because our passing offense consistently set us up with 3rd and long.
If the other teams decides to control the clock, it could kill our only chance at winning. Snyder made this public info last year, so the secert is out. We're DOOMED! :White flag:
How does it hurt us more than them? It limits the exposure our defense faces even more. It's not like West Virginia, Texas, Baylor, Oklahoma State, etc. are going to start slowing the game down because they face the Cats. If anything, they are going to try to play even faster.
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How much improvement can we expect from the D this year, given that the main problem is talent/footspeed? People seem to have left it for dead and favored talking about Sams/Waters/offensive adjustments. Any chance Johnson/Moore work their way into the LB corps and make a difference? C. Brown, Willis, etc steps in to actually provide some playmaking?
We need to run the ball early and often to limit the D's exposure. It's the only way we are going to remain in games against good teams.
But what if other teams take that route, like NDSU did in their last drive. This will kill us for the rest of the season, if that happens IMHO.
It didn't kill NDSU. They took that route and won because our passing offense consistently set us up with 3rd and long.
If the other teams decides to control the clock, it could kill our only chance at winning. Snyder made this public info last year, so the secert is out. We're DOOMED! :White flag:
How does it hurt us more than them? It limits the exposure our defense faces even more. It's not like West Virginia, Texas, Baylor, Oklahoma State, etc. are going to start slowing the game down because they face the Cats. If anything, they are going to try to play even faster.
Do you want me to type slower so you can catch up. If the other team's offense is on the field longer, so is our weak defense. Therefore, they control the clock and control the game; as Snyder has said was his secert to make up for a weak defense. It basically takes us out of the game.
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How much improvement can we expect from the D this year, given that the main problem is talent/footspeed? People seem to have left it for dead and favored talking about Sams/Waters/offensive adjustments. Any chance Johnson/Moore work their way into the LB corps and make a difference? C. Brown, Willis, etc steps in to actually provide some playmaking?
We need to run the ball early and often to limit the D's exposure. It's the only way we are going to remain in games against good teams.
But what if other teams take that route, like NDSU did in their last drive. This will kill us for the rest of the season, if that happens IMHO.
It didn't kill NDSU. They took that route and won because our passing offense consistently set us up with 3rd and long.
If the other teams decides to control the clock, it could kill our only chance at winning. Snyder made this public info last year, so the secert is out. We're DOOMED! :White flag:
How does it hurt us more than them? It limits the exposure our defense faces even more. It's not like West Virginia, Texas, Baylor, Oklahoma State, etc. are going to start slowing the game down because they face the Cats. If anything, they are going to try to play even faster.
Do you want me to type slower so you can catch up. If the other team's offense is on the field longer, so is our weak defense. Therefore, they control the clock and control the game; as Snyder has said was his secert to make up for a weak defense. It basically takes us out of the game.
Our defense might be standing on the field longer, but they get more time to catch their breath and are exposed to fewer plays, minimizing the risk of injury which would be just awful given our lack of depth. Fewer plays all around helps our chances. Every game we play would be very close if both teams were to run 40 seconds off of the play clock every play. We would have a great chance of beating any team in the country under that scenario.
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How much improvement can we expect from the D this year, given that the main problem is talent/footspeed? People seem to have left it for dead and favored talking about Sams/Waters/offensive adjustments. Any chance Johnson/Moore work their way into the LB corps and make a difference? C. Brown, Willis, etc steps in to actually provide some playmaking?
We need to run the ball early and often to limit the D's exposure. It's the only way we are going to remain in games against good teams.
But what if other teams take that route, like NDSU did in their last drive. This will kill us for the rest of the season, if that happens IMHO.
It didn't kill NDSU. They took that route and won because our passing offense consistently set us up with 3rd and long.
If the other teams decides to control the clock, it could kill our only chance at winning. Snyder made this public info last year, so the secert is out. We're DOOMED! :White flag:
How does it hurt us more than them? It limits the exposure our defense faces even more. It's not like West Virginia, Texas, Baylor, Oklahoma State, etc. are going to start slowing the game down because they face the Cats. If anything, they are going to try to play even faster.
Do you want me to type slower so you can catch up. If the other team's offense is on the field longer, so is our weak defense. Therefore, they control the clock and control the game; as Snyder has said was his secert to make up for a weak defense. It basically takes us out of the game.
Our defense might be standing on the field longer, but they get more time to catch their breath and are exposed to fewer plays, minimizing the risk of injury which would be just awful given our lack of depth. Fewer plays all around helps our chances. Every game we play would be very close if both teams were to run 40 seconds off of the play clock every play. We would have a great chance of beating any team in the country under that scenario.
So you don't believe in Snyder's "control the clock" method of play. This didn't give us an advantage in our 21 wins over the last two seasons. :whistle1:
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Just based on speed, I bet Dakorey gets a look. Hopefully Moore too.
:thumbs:
I hope they have great football instincts, we all know Slaughter does NOT.
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How much improvement can we expect from the D this year, given that the main problem is talent/footspeed? People seem to have left it for dead and favored talking about Sams/Waters/offensive adjustments. Any chance Johnson/Moore work their way into the LB corps and make a difference? C. Brown, Willis, etc steps in to actually provide some playmaking?
We need to run the ball early and often to limit the D's exposure. It's the only way we are going to remain in games against good teams.
But what if other teams take that route, like NDSU did in their last drive. This will kill us for the rest of the season, if that happens IMHO.
It didn't kill NDSU. They took that route and won because our passing offense consistently set us up with 3rd and long.
If the other teams decides to control the clock, it could kill our only chance at winning. Snyder made this public info last year, so the secert is out. We're DOOMED! :White flag:
How does it hurt us more than them? It limits the exposure our defense faces even more. It's not like West Virginia, Texas, Baylor, Oklahoma State, etc. are going to start slowing the game down because they face the Cats. If anything, they are going to try to play even faster.
Do you want me to type slower so you can catch up. If the other team's offense is on the field longer, so is our weak defense. Therefore, they control the clock and control the game; as Snyder has said was his secert to make up for a weak defense. It basically takes us out of the game.
Our defense might be standing on the field longer, but they get more time to catch their breath and are exposed to fewer plays, minimizing the risk of injury which would be just awful given our lack of depth. Fewer plays all around helps our chances. Every game we play would be very close if both teams were to run 40 seconds off of the play clock every play. We would have a great chance of beating any team in the country under that scenario.
So you don't believe in Snyder's "control the clock" method of play. This didn't give us an advantage in our 21 wins over the last two seasons. :whistle1:
I'm a firm believer in that method of play when you have a suspect defense and talent deficiencies across the board in general. If we had a better team, I would want to run Baylor's offense. We don't have a very good team, though. I want to run Bill's offense from 2003 with Daniel Sams at QB.
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I wouldn't worry about it, bill is saving the good defensive players for later.
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I wouldn't worry about it, bill is saving the good defensive players for later.
Yes, yes, very true... :ROFL:
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I wouldn't worry about it, bill is saving the good defensive players for later.
Thought so. Just wanted to keep the secret.
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"I want to run Bill's offense from 2003 with Daniel Sams at QB." :thumbs: to this. It's our only chance of being relevant in the Big 12 this year. Abandon the pass-first bullshit we tried Friday night. Go back to your bread and butter Bill
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How much improvement can we expect from the D this year, given that the main problem is talent/footspeed? People seem to have left it for dead and favored talking about Sams/Waters/offensive adjustments. Any chance Johnson/Moore work their way into the LB corps and make a difference? C. Brown, Willis, etc steps in to actually provide some playmaking?
We need to run the ball early and often to limit the D's exposure. It's the only way we are going to remain in games against good teams.
But what if other teams take that route, like NDSU did in their last drive. This will kill us for the rest of the season, if that happens IMHO.
It didn't kill NDSU. They took that route and won because our passing offense consistently set us up with 3rd and long.
If the other teams decides to control the clock, it could kill our only chance at winning. Snyder made this public info last year, so the secert is out. We're DOOMED! :White flag:
How does it hurt us more than them? It limits the exposure our defense faces even more. It's not like West Virginia, Texas, Baylor, Oklahoma State, etc. are going to start slowing the game down because they face the Cats. If anything, they are going to try to play even faster.
Do you want me to type slower so you can catch up. If the other team's offense is on the field longer, so is our weak defense. Therefore, they control the clock and control the game; as Snyder has said was his secert to make up for a weak defense. It basically takes us out of the game.
Our defense might be standing on the field longer, but they get more time to catch their breath and are exposed to fewer plays, minimizing the risk of injury which would be just awful given our lack of depth. Fewer plays all around helps our chances. Every game we play would be very close if both teams were to run 40 seconds off of the play clock every play. We would have a great chance of beating any team in the country under that scenario.
So you don't believe in Snyder's "control the clock" method of play. This didn't give us an advantage in our 21 wins over the last two seasons. :whistle1:
I"m a firm believer in Snyder's score more points then the other team method. I think that was the secret to our 21 wins over the last two seasons.
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I want to run Bill's offense from 2003 with Daniel Sams at QB.
That'd work great.*
* if we got to swap Hubert for Sproles and the entire OL for its 2003 edition
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I want to run Bill's offense from 2003 with Daniel Sams at QB.
That'd work great.*
* if we got to swap Hubert for Sproles and the entire OL for its 2003 edition
Even without the small print, it would look about 100x better than what we saw Friday night.