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Title: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: Demo158 on May 15, 2013, 09:51:52 PM
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/9277972/nfl-greatest-quarterbacks

Here's how I had em'
1.Joe Montana

2.Dan Marino

3.Brett Favre

4.Peyton Manning

5.Steve Young

6.Tom Brady

7.Terry Bradshaw

8.Roger Staubach

9.Phil Simms

10.John Elway

11.Troy Aikman

12.Bart Starr

13.Drew Brees

14.Joe Namath

15.Warren Moon

16.Fran Tarkenton

17.Dan Fouts

18.Sammy Baugh

19.Bob Griese

20.Johnny Unitas

21.Otto Graham
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: Demo158 on May 15, 2013, 09:52:58 PM
Here's how the rest of the nation has em ranked collectively so far...

1.Joe Montana

2.Peyton Manning

3.Dan Marino

4.Tom Brady

5.John Elway

6.Brett Favre

7.Johnny Unitas

8.Steve Young

9.Terry Bradshaw

10.Troy Aikman

11.Bart Starr

12.Drew Brees

13.Roger Staubach

14.Phil Simms

15.Joe Namath

16.Warren Moon

17.Fran Tarkenton

18.Otto Graham

19.Sammy Baugh

20.Dan Fouts

21.Bob Griese
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: j-dub on May 15, 2013, 10:14:12 PM
Elway's the best. No need to rank the rest.
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: scottwildcat on May 16, 2013, 09:44:26 AM
if Trent Green isn't on the list I won't even recognize it as a valid attempt.
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: steve dave on May 16, 2013, 09:54:38 AM
joe montana, john elway and dan marino would get cut first day if they played today in their prime. it was such a pud sport back then.
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: scottwildcat on May 16, 2013, 09:55:13 AM
joe montana, john elway and dan marino would get cut first day if they played today in their prime. it was such a pud sport back then.

thoughts on Trent Green sd?
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: steve dave on May 16, 2013, 09:56:31 AM
joe montana, john elway and dan marino would get cut first day if they played today in their prime. it was such a pud sport back then.

thoughts on Trent Green sd?

I dont' even know who that is
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 16, 2013, 09:58:50 AM
1.  Bishop
2.  Grogan
3.  Dickey
4.  Klein
5.  Straw
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: scottwildcat on May 16, 2013, 10:01:01 AM
joe montana, john elway and dan marino would get cut first day if they played today in their prime. it was such a pud sport back then.

thoughts on Trent Green sd?

I dont' even know who that is

:(
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 16, 2013, 12:10:28 PM
Elway's the best. No need to rank the rest.

Would've been a badass right fielder too
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 16, 2013, 01:07:16 PM
Dan Marino is the best and it isn't even close.
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: ednksu on May 16, 2013, 01:56:11 PM
lulz at puds who put Elway near the top. 
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: 8manpick on May 16, 2013, 02:05:50 PM
1. Freemaw
/list
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 16, 2013, 02:06:03 PM
1. Tom Brady
2. Aaron Rodgers
3. Payton Manning
4. Drew Brees
5. Brett Favre
6. Steve Young
7. Eli Manning
8. Kurt Warner
9. Ben Roethlisberger
10. John Elway
Title: Re: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: 8manpick on May 16, 2013, 02:06:46 PM
1. Freemaw
/list
Edit: I think Jordy threw a pass once. Put him #2.
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: j-dub on May 16, 2013, 02:27:14 PM
lulz at puds who put Elway near the top.

would say dumbass outed, but that's already been well established..

so - dumbass confirmed.
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: ednksu on May 16, 2013, 05:23:08 PM
lulz at puds who put Elway near the top.

would say dumbass outed, but that's already been well established..

so - dumbass confirmed.
:nono: Talk to TD who made his career.

But hey, I wouldn't expect much from most people here to acknowledge the black guy.
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: asava on May 16, 2013, 05:27:20 PM
lulz at puds who put Elway near the top.

would say dumbass outed, but that's already been well established..

so - dumbass confirmed.
:nono: Talk to TD who made his career.

But hey, I wouldn't expect much from most people here to acknowledge the black guy.

TD made his superbowl dreams come true, not his career's legacy.
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 16, 2013, 05:30:48 PM
lulz at puds who put Elway near the top.

would say dumbass outed, but that's already been well established..

so - dumbass confirmed.
:nono: Talk to TD who made his career.

But hey, I wouldn't expect much from most people here to acknowledge the black guy.

the race card? really? that's what you're playing? you're only reinforcing J-Dub's Elway boner when you go about it in such a dumbass way.
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: ednksu on May 16, 2013, 07:13:26 PM
lulz at puds who put Elway near the top.

would say dumbass outed, but that's already been well established..

so - dumbass confirmed.
:nono: Talk to TD who made his career.

But hey, I wouldn't expect much from most people here to acknowledge the black guy.

TD made his superbowl dreams come true, not his career's legacy.
Disagree.  His legacy is entirely defined by his super bowls.  His legacy if he didn't win the super bowls would cement him as a good/great QB, hot a top 5.  No one sits backs and thinks about how John Elway was the prototype QB in pro football like they do with Marino for example.  Look at his first 3 super bowl trips, utter embarrassments for a QB.  Against the Pack he was around 50% with no TDs.
I'm sorry that isn't good enough for people to put him above a host of others players.
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: ednksu on May 16, 2013, 07:16:06 PM
lulz at puds who put Elway near the top.

would say dumbass outed, but that's already been well established..

so - dumbass confirmed.
:nono: Talk to TD who made his career.

But hey, I wouldn't expect much from most people here to acknowledge the black guy.

the race card? really? that's what you're playing? you're only reinforcing J-Dub's Elway boner when you go about it in such a dumbass way.
LOL at anyone who doesn't recognize that black running backs aren't seen as replaceable and not worthy of the same commemoration as white QBs by the NFL, especially in these types of situations.
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: jmlynch1 on May 16, 2013, 07:16:50 PM
Tom Brady is GOAT at QBing and just Being
Title: Re: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: mocat on May 16, 2013, 07:29:46 PM
Tom Brady is GOAT at QBing and just Being

Great post
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 16, 2013, 07:30:43 PM
TD didn't receive a bunch of post career recognition because of his career ending injuries. I think it's widely accepted, had he played a full career (whatever that means), he would have been recognized as one of the top 3 professional running backs of all time, but wish in one hand and crap in the other.

GMAFB with that argument. Elway is a top ten QB with or without TD.

(Davis is my all time favorite running back)
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 16, 2013, 10:28:10 PM
lulz at puds who put Elway near the top.

would say dumbass outed, but that's already been well established..

so - dumbass confirmed.
:nono: Talk to TD who made his career.

But hey, I wouldn't expect much from most people here to acknowledge the black guy.

the race card? really? that's what you're playing? you're only reinforcing J-Dub's Elway boner when you go about it in such a dumbass way.
LOL at anyone who doesn't recognize that black running backs aren't seen as replaceable and not worthy of the same commemoration as white QBs by the NFL, especially in these types of situations.

So just to be clear, the reason some view Elway as a better QB than Marino or Montana is because Terrell Davis is black. Great point numb nuts.
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: asava on May 16, 2013, 11:05:44 PM
(Davis is my all time favorite running back)

me too, metalhead. me too.
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: ednksu on May 17, 2013, 01:40:30 AM
lulz at puds who put Elway near the top.

would say dumbass outed, but that's already been well established..

so - dumbass confirmed.
:nono: Talk to TD who made his career.

But hey, I wouldn't expect much from most people here to acknowledge the black guy.

the race card? really? that's what you're playing? you're only reinforcing J-Dub's Elway boner when you go about it in such a dumbass way.
LOL at anyone who doesn't recognize that black running backs aren't seen as replaceable and not worthy of the same commemoration as white QBs by the NFL, especially in these types of situations.

So just to be clear, the reason some view Elway as a better QB than Marino or Montana is because Terrell Davis is black. Great point numb nuts.
So....do you ever breath with your mouth closed....or are you just looking at 100% mouth breathing all the time.....?
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: kso_FAN on May 17, 2013, 07:25:40 AM
Elway's the best. No need to rank the rest.

Would've been a badass right fielder too

j-dub's list

1. Elway
2. Elway
3. Elway
4. Elway
5. Elway
etc.
Title: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: Tobias on May 17, 2013, 07:28:41 AM

Elway's the best. No need to rank the rest.

Would've been a badass right fielder too

j-dub's list

1. Elway
2. Elway
3. Elway
4. Elway
5. Elway
etc.

he spits hot fire
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 17, 2013, 08:58:59 AM
RB is the most replaceable position in the NFL, ednksu. Good backs are a dime a dozen, and most of them have careers that only last 4-5 years because they wear down so fast. People are quick to discount them because them because they are easy to replace. It has nothing to do with race.
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 17, 2013, 09:52:00 AM
lulz at puds who put Elway near the top.

would say dumbass outed, but that's already been well established..

so - dumbass confirmed.
:nono: Talk to TD who made his career.

But hey, I wouldn't expect much from most people here to acknowledge the black guy.

the race card? really? that's what you're playing? you're only reinforcing J-Dub's Elway boner when you go about it in such a dumbass way.
LOL at anyone who doesn't recognize that black running backs aren't seen as replaceable and not worthy of the same commemoration as white QBs by the NFL, especially in these types of situations.

So just to be clear, the reason some view Elway as a better QB than Marino or Montana is because Terrell Davis is black. Great point numb nuts.
So....do you ever breath with your mouth closed....or are you just looking at 100% mouth breathing all the time.....?

My goodness you're a dork
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: OK_Cat on May 17, 2013, 10:29:00 AM
If they stopped playing before 2012 then they are hot garbage.
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: CNS on May 17, 2013, 10:31:32 AM
Brady is too cool to even care that he is the top guy ever, but he is.  I mean, he stopped needing that like yrs ago.

Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: lopakman on May 17, 2013, 01:12:02 PM
lulz at puds who put Elway near the top.

would say dumbass outed, but that's already been well established..

so - dumbass confirmed.
:nono: Talk to TD who made his career.

But hey, I wouldn't expect much from most people here to acknowledge the black guy.

Boydsoilcan?
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: bonercat on May 17, 2013, 02:09:49 PM
LOL at Phil Simms being better than Elway. 
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 17, 2013, 02:14:18 PM
Guys, it's Marino.  Seriously.  He did all that passing throwing and never had a single 1000 yard running back.  It was the Dan show on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd down every time.  And they still couldn't stop him. 
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: j-dub on May 17, 2013, 02:38:23 PM
Guys, it's Marino.  Seriously.  He did all that passing throwing and never had a single 1000 yard running back.  It was the Dan show on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd down every time.  And they still couldn't stop him.

In Marino's first 14 years in the league his offensive lineman and receivers were voted to 30 pro bowls. In Elway's first 14 years in the league his offensive lineman and receivers were voted to 6. Shannon Sharpe was Elway's first pro bowl receiver - as you're probably aware, he was a tight end.

Through his first 14 years, Elway was already the leagues all-time leader in wins. He won more games than any other qb in history (at that point, and also when he retired) while sharing the field with only 6 pro bowlers in all those years. He only had 2 pro bowl WR's in his entire 16 year career. Anthony Miller in '95, and Ed McCaffrey in '98 (Elway's final season).

Nobody has ever done more with less. Then he won 2 super bowls.

Quick sidenote: after Elway retired, the defending champion terrell davis led broncos started 0-4. then davis blew out his knee. i loved td, he was an incredible back. but he was only a rb.

Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: puniraptor on May 17, 2013, 02:46:39 PM
gotta have a ring to be in the top 10 if you ask me
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 17, 2013, 03:17:15 PM
Guys, can we promise right rough ridin' here that we won't let this thread tear us apart? 
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: j-dub on May 17, 2013, 03:27:07 PM
Guys, can we promise right rough ridin' here that we won't let this thread tear us apart?

promise*.

*(ednksu is already my least fav poster on this blog, so don't let my responses to him worry you emo..although i am trying to be nice to him fwiw..that previous dumbass comment notwithstanding.)
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 17, 2013, 04:36:30 PM
gotta have a ring to be in the top 10 if you ask me

I couldn't agree more. If Marino were that great, he would have won a Super Bowl at some point in his career. I mean he played for like 20 years or something.
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: slobber on May 17, 2013, 05:13:21 PM
1. Limestone (I don't know Limestone, but I bet he was/is an NFL quarterback. If I am right, then he is the best, and it isn't up for debate.
2. Elway
3. Fran
4. Unite us
Then it gets pretty clouded.
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: wetwillie on May 17, 2013, 10:04:46 PM
Jim Kelly was a first ballot hall of famer but man I can't get past losing four straight Super Bowls.
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: Asteriskhead on May 19, 2013, 02:37:25 AM
I'm pretty sure being the last quarterback to win back-to-back superbowls doesn't hurt Elway's case.
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: ednksu on May 19, 2013, 11:05:18 AM
Guys, can we promise right rough ridin' here that we won't let this thread tear us apart?

promise*.

*(ednksu is already my least fav poster on this blog, so don't let my responses to him worry you emo..although i am trying to be nice to him fwiw..that previous dumbass comment notwithstanding.)
you'd make a hell of a KU fan  :thumbs:
Title: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: Kat Kid on May 19, 2013, 11:39:27 AM
(Davis is my all time favorite running back)

me too, metalhead. me too.

what in the world?
Title: Re: Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!
Post by: CNS on May 20, 2013, 10:21:39 AM
Jim Kelly was a first ballot hall of famer but man I can't get past losing four straight Super Bowls.

How many others went to four straight?  Easy to overlook imo.