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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: Hokie CPA on May 14, 2013, 11:48:03 AM
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University President? LOL
This morning Virginia Tech's President, Charles Steger, announced he will be retiring, so we're going to be in the market for a new one. Turns out Dr. Schulz spoke at our December 2012 commencement exercises and both he and his wife are Virginia Tech alumni. So would y'all be terribly upset if our BOV were to call him up and offer him the job?
What's y'all's impression of the man? How has he done as your President these last 4 years?
:popcorn:
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University President? LOL
This morning Virginia Tech's President, Charles Steger, announced he will be retiring, so we're going to be in the market for a new one. Turns out Dr. Schulz spoke at our December 2012 commencement exercises and both he and his wife are Virginia Tech alumni. So would y'all be terribly upset if our BOV were to call him up and offer him the job?
What's y'all's impression of the man? How has he done as your President these last 4 years?
:popcorn:
nope
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complete loser. please take him off our hands.
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He wouldn't leave K-State for a mid-major :lol:
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Well, he's The Animal...soooo...
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I'd rather have a K-State alum as president, but I like how Schulz is on Twitter and Facebook and interacts with students and alums.
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University President? LOL
This morning Virginia Tech's President, Charles Steger, announced he will be retiring, so we're going to be in the market for a new one. Turns out Dr. Schulz spoke at our December 2012 commencement exercises and both he and his wife are Virginia Tech alumni. So would y'all be terribly upset if our BOV were to call him up and offer him the job?
What's y'all's impression of the man? How has he done as your President these last 4 years?
:popcorn:
Hmmm
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Would the Animal moving on hasten a JC departure? I would think he might lower his standards a little at least
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He'll tweet your face off, that's for sure!
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He'll tweet your face off, that's for sure!
That's good to know, thanks! LOL
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He'll tweet your face off, that's for sure!
That's good to know, thanks! LOL
How's the Olive Garden situation in whatever town Virginia Tech is in?
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He'll tweet your face off, that's for sure!
That's good to know, thanks! LOL
How's the Olive Garden situation in whatever town Virginia Tech is in?
The soup and salad are great! LOL
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LOL They have gift cards too! LOL LOL
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He'll tweet your face off, that's for sure!
That's good to know, thanks! LOL
How's the Olive Garden situation in whatever town Virginia Tech is in?
Blacksburg doesn't need an Olive Garden. It has Backstreet's. But I'm pretty sure just about every major chain is just down the road in Christiansburg.
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He'll tweet your face off, that's for sure!
That's good to know, thanks! LOL
How's the Olive Garden situation in whatever town Virginia Tech is in?
Blacksburg doesn't need an Olive Garden. It has Backstreet's. But I'm pretty sure just about every major chain is just down the road in Christiansburg.
even red lobster? :horrorsurprise:
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Keep your filthy rough ridin' hands off my dreamy rough ridin' Animal and his perfect rough ridin' Animal House Family
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He'll tweet your face off, that's for sure!
That's good to know, thanks! LOL
How's the Olive Garden situation in whatever town Virginia Tech is in?
But I'm pretty sure just about every major chain is just down the road in Christiansburg.
Where's the McDonald's? Jewstown or Muslimsapolis!? LOLOL
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I'm not familiar with "Virginia Tech"... I'm assuming it's like DeVry or ITT, though. Amirite?
Are you in Western Virginia like our rivals who act on Buckwild when not burning couches, too?
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I'm not familiar with "Virginia Tech"... I'm assuming it's like DeVry or ITT, though. Amirite?
Are you in Western Virginia like our rivals who act on Buckwild when not burning couches, too?
:dunno:
I heard that the kid on buckwild that died was a law student at Virginia tech :frown:
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Hope you don't like that "Hokie, Hokie, Hokie High" chant you guys have, because he'll murder it for its obvious drug connotation.
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doubt it. even he couldnt try that pos around.
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if you like people who block diehard fans on twitter, then he's all yours, west virginia guy.
quick question - sorry if ignorant - if players leave one school to go to a school in the same conference, then they have to wait longer to play. are there similar penalties for administration people switching in-conference like this? hope the mountaineers are ready to hand over some cash.
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He doesn't have any experience with school shootings, so I doubt he'd want to walk into that mess.
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He doesn't have any experience with school shootings, so I doubt he'd want to walk into that mess.
:sdeek:
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This thread is gross.
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He'll tweet your face off, that's for sure!
That's good to know, thanks! LOL
Will troll you via twitter as well as rub crap in your fat faces via twitter too.
Other than that, you can have him. Just know that his son will refuse to attend your shitty school.
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Anyone got the gif of Shane on the bench when we played VT?
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Got their asses good!
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I think Shane was better looking back then.
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What is Myles doing without his warm ups on?
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take him.
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take him.
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I'll never forget the day he humiliated me for a comment I made on Facebook regarding KSU sports.
Take him, please.
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what's with the fake southern y'all thing?
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good riddance
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I think Shane was better looking back then.
I forgot we were ranked that high back then :blank:
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But as far as Animal goes, you can have him. He and stupid wife took EMAW away and I'd like to have it back.
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He'll tweet your face off, that's for sure!
That's good to know, thanks! LOL
How's the Olive Garden situation in whatever town Virginia Tech is in?
Blacksburg doesn't need an Olive Garden. It has Backstreet's. But I'm pretty sure just about every major chain is just down the road in Christiansburg.
I bet Joey Fatone makes a mean ravioli. :drool:
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#patbosco4ksu
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complete loser. please take him off our hands.
Yeah huge dope
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Why would @kstate_pres want to leave an engineering blue blood for Virginia Tech? That'd be like Snyder going to, well, Virginia Tech.
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I'll never forget the day he humiliated me for a comment I made on Facebook regarding KSU sports.
Take him, please.
this sounds adorable. do tell
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I'll never forget the day he humiliated me for a comment I made on Facebook regarding KSU sports.
Take him, please.
this sounds adorable. do tell
He was pumping the Weber hire on facebook, so I posted the link to an article that said oscar stunk. He used my name when telling everyone that the article was hateful and untrue.
I dream about digging that up and shove it in his hokie-loving face someday. :shakesfist:
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Kirk doesn't know as much about KSU sports as Wefald did. In fact, I suspect Wefald still knows more about KSU sports.
That said, Kirk has smaller ears than Wefald, FWIW.
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Kirk doesn't know as much about KSU sports as Wefald did. In fact, I suspect Wefald still knows more about KSU sports.
That said, Kirk has smaller ears than Wefald, FWIW.
i decided that i like kirk's relationship with ksu athletics much more than i did wefald's
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Kirk doesn't know as much about KSU sports as Wefald did. In fact, I suspect Wefald still knows more about KSU sports.
That said, Kirk has smaller ears than Wefald, FWIW.
i decided that i like kirk's relationship with ksu athletics much more than i did wefald's
Wefald's relationship with KSU Athletics was like Lenny's relationship with that puppy.
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Kirk doesn't know as much about KSU sports as Wefald did. In fact, I suspect Wefald still knows more about KSU sports.
That said, Kirk has smaller ears than Wefald, FWIW.
i decided that i like kirk's relationship with ksu athletics much more than i did wefald's
Yes I agree with this.
Wefald being down on the field acting super giddy at Auburn when we were leading in the fourth quarter drove me nuts.
GET OFF THE FIELD WEFALD, THERE'S A LOT OF GAME LEFT!
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Kirk doesn't know as much about KSU sports as Wefald did. In fact, I suspect Wefald still knows more about KSU sports.
That said, Kirk has smaller ears than Wefald, FWIW.
i decided that i like kirk's relationship with ksu athletics much more than i did wefald's
Wefald's relationship with KSU Athletics was like Lenny's relationship with that puppy.
ha
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What is Myles doing without his warm ups on?
He was "Bingo" from the line as Bob Knight would say it
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The Animal would be smart to go. The faculty is basically in full revolt and are planning a freaking sit-in at Anderson Hall because they have not received pay raises while Shulz's compensation has gone up pretty significantly. It looks like there is sufficient butthurt to make his tenure uncomfortable. 2025 is a complete joke that is 12 years out with few measurables in his favor. He has a lot of shine for the combination of improving our finances (cleaning up after Wefald/Krause), building some stuff and successful athletics. Bailing is the absolute right move.
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The Animal would be smart to go. The faculty is basically in full revolt and are planning a freaking sit-in at Anderson Hall because they have not received pay raises while Shulz's compensation has gone up pretty significantly. It looks like there is sufficient butthurt to make his tenure uncomfortable. 2025 is a complete joke that is 12 years out with few measurables in his favor. He has a lot of shine for the combination of improving our finances (cleaning up after Wefald/Krause), building some stuff and successful athletics. Bailing is the absolute right move.
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I trust KK in this type of thing. Did not do the "2025 is so soon" math. Omg. Seemed crazy sci-fi far off.
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The Animal would be smart to go. The faculty is basically in full revolt and are planning a freaking sit-in at Anderson Hall because they have not received pay raises while Shulz's compensation has gone up pretty significantly. It looks like there is sufficient butthurt to make his tenure uncomfortable. 2025 is a complete joke that is 12 years out with few measurables in his favor. He has a lot of shine for the combination of improving our finances (cleaning up after Wefald/Krause), building some stuff and successful athletics. Bailing is the absolute right move.
Agreed. The family ties to VaTech are clear and, I assume, somewhat compelling. More importantly, no university president has much of a chance to survive when his faculty rebels or revolts over compensation issues.
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The KBOR asked for plans from all of the administrators from KBOR universities in response to the budget cuts. Kansas State's was the only one rejected because Shultz was the only administrator who was going to continue to freeze faculty salaries and not budget a 2% bump in '14 like every other school. The KBOR was signing off on these plans, because K-State and every other school was asking permission for tuition increases.
As stated previously, the faculty is pretty pissed at Kirk. I don't think they are vote of no confidence pissed, but between 2025, the growth of administrative staff and salary without faculty retention efforts I think Kirk is hunting for a new landing spot.
Any update on the other end?
http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/articles/2013/05/052413-president-searchcommittee.html (http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/articles/2013/05/052413-president-searchcommittee.html)
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interesting. has there been much public disapproval of kirk? Or has it just been ITK?
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interesting. has there been much public disapproval of kirk? Or has it just been ITK?
Public as in campus wide? Yes. Public as in alums/general k-state fans? No.
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kk, post these accusations on twitter. I bet the animal responds.
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kk, post these accusations on twitter. I bet the animal responds.
maybe someone else would be better suited for that.....
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kk, post these accusations on twitter. I bet the animal responds.
maybe someone else would be better suited for that.....
ok, I'll do it later
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good luck finding someone on here that he hasn't blocked :embarrassed:
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good luck finding someone on here that he hasn't blocked :embarrassed:
he hasn't blocked me
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I have met his assistant and she is a super needy/complainy bitch.
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kk, post these accusations on twitter. I bet the animal responds.
@TheAnimalEatsComplaintsForBreakfastAndMushesFacesForLunch
Complaints on campus? Hard to hear them while rereading all these old angry emails and laughing my ass off!
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I have met his assistant and she is a super needy/complainy bitch.
Take it to twitter.
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You can't have him, but if you need a basketball coach we can talk.
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Can definitely confirm what Kat Kid said. The faculty is rough ridin' pissed and want heads rolling. Their compensation is easily lowest in the Big 12 by comparison while admin salaries have skyrocketed.
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well folks, sounds like we've got a pretty severe case of faculty butthurt on our hands
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well folks, sounds like we've got a pretty severe case of faculty butthurt on our hands
i should really stop making serious posts on here.
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well folks, sounds like we've got a pretty severe case of faculty butthurt on our hands
i should really stop making serious posts on here.
no, more if anything
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well folks, sounds like we've got a pretty severe case of faculty butthurt on our hands
i should really stop making serious posts on here.
no, more if anything
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well folks, sounds like we've got a pretty severe case of faculty butthurt on our hands
i should really stop making serious posts on here.
no, more if anything
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I'm serious btw
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way to scare off serious responses with snarkiness, steve dave.
steve dave: ruining gE one thread at a time.
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way to scare off serious responses with snarkiness, steve dave.
steve dave: ruining gE one thread at a time.
i should really stop making snarky posts on here.
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wow looks like ol'42 has a solid case of tone of posts butthurt
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Can definitely confirm what Kat Kid said. The faculty is rough ridin' pissed and want heads rolling. Their compensation is easily lowest in the Big 12 by comparison while admin salaries have skyrocketed.
Ole Kirk responded to the faculty butthurt by not attending the faculty senate meeting today and getting out there and fundraising.
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is this a case of him paying the right people the right amount? the other losers can kick rocks and go teach at some scrub school?
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I just asked him
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welp. dis gon be good.
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They froze salary. People writing new job descriptions? Merit based pay increases? Yeah those are still around, but don't confuse their existence as some kind of well thought out plan by Kirk. He thinks buildings, realignment and 2025. I don't think he's been terrible by any means. He served his purpose, but it is probably time for him to go.
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I just asked him
good summary of the complaints.
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seems that the animal is smart enough to maintain the staff that will help him achieve his K-State 2025 goal.
also, this (http://www.k-state.edu/2025/initiatives/faculty-compensation/) would indicate that compensation decisions extend beyond his desk.
if i were a betting man, and i am, my guess is we have a good chuck of our facility who are scrubs that have been sitting on their collective asses the past 30 years or whatever and feel as if they're owed something. because that's just how things have always operated at k-state. for an illustrative example, refer to our pre-currie athletic dept and how it operated.
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seems that the animal is smart enough to maintain the staff that will help him achieve his K-State 2025 goal.
also, this (http://www.k-state.edu/2025/initiatives/faculty-compensation/) would indicate that compensation decisions extend beyond his desk.
if i were a betting man, and i am, my guess is we have a good chuck of our facility who are scrubs that have been sitting on their collective asses the past 30 years or whatever and feel as if they're owed something. because that's just how things have always operated at k-state. for an illustrative example, refer to our pre-currie athletic dept and how it operated.
Yes compensation decisions extend beyond his desk. That was what I basically said earlier.
A pro tip:
if you made it all the way to the executive summary of the report of the committee you just cited, the recommendation of his own 2025 committee was to make a large increase (more than 2%) in 2014 to help achieve equality to their peer member institutions by 2018.
http://www.k-state.edu/2025/documents/Faculty-Compensation-Task-Force-Final.pdf (http://www.k-state.edu/2025/documents/Faculty-Compensation-Task-Force-Final.pdf)
So when he said to the KBOR "yeah we want tuition increases, and we'll also freeze salary bumps again cause you know recession." he pissed a lot of people off. Beyond the constructive feedback he got from the KBOR mushing his visionary response, you'd think that might be something for him to think about.
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sounds like he's doing all of the right things. thumbs up to the animal.
pro tip: you can't go to the zoo and like every exhibit equally
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wow looks like ol'42 has a solid case of tone of posts butthurt
I mean if anything it's a testament to how good of a PI'er steve dave is. Everyone thinks they're being PI'ed even when they aren't. Anyway...
is this a case of him paying the right people the right amount? the other losers can kick rocks and go teach at some scrub school?
The main issue is keeping the best and brightest faculty on campus. For example, there's one professor in my old department at KSU that's a dynamic up and comer in the field. Plenty of publications and research, an awesome teacher, etc. Not keeping our salaries competitive with other schools pretty much guarantees that we'll lose her as soon as a big timey department (Wisconsin, UCLA, etc.) comes along. If the salaries were more competitive we'd at least have a better shot to keep professors like that as few people really enjoy uprooting themselves and moving across the country and starting the promotion and tenure process over again.
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yes sd pi'd the hell out of you earlier. it was bloody.
we will never compete with schools like UCLA for teaching talent
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yes sd pi'd the hell out of you earlier. it was bloody.
Yeah. Sheesh.
we will never compete with schools like UCLA for teaching talent
Probably not, but it'd be nice to at least not lose good professors to schools who by all rights should be our peers, which is the big potential danger with salaries the way they're at.
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well it's a good thing our fellow wildcat the animal wants to raise salaries
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Don't know anything about that rumor but I do know from an "A+" source that Kirk is being contacted by other schools, is very respected, is under paid compared to his peers, and is frustrated with some of the faculty crap he is getting. He also likes KSU very much. Same source also said Currie is a target but that's not news. They are the best combo team KSU has ever had
"His faculity needs to be paid more, you are only as good as your professors and teachers."
That's exactly what the faculty says and he SAYS but has repeatedly failed to ACT on because he claims the dollars aren't there, while contiunuing to expand his own staff, dramatically increase their pay, and bury his head in the sand.
"That's exactly what the faculty says and he SAYS but has repeatedly failed to ACT on because he claims the dollars aren't there, while contiunuing to expand his own staff, dramatically increase their pay, and bury his head in the sand."
IMO, he's right that the money isn't there. K-State has by far the smallest endowment in the Big 12. There is a reason why our faculty is paid dramatically less than our peers. I don't know anything about growing his staff or how he pays them, so I can't really speak to that.
The faculty needs a wake up call. The economy in the state of Kansas and the rest of the country is just starting to re-cover. Tenure does not entitle one to endless raises and increased benefits. The KSU faculty as well as educators everywhere are not and should not be exempt from the ills of the economy.
please. . .no aware person believes the current Kansas economy and its current tax policy are related. Kansas' funding "crisis" is 99% self-imposed. Every state around us INCREASED higher-ed funding this year, some of whom had much worse economic numbers. I don't blame President Schulz one bit if he is listening to overtures from other Universities. Dealing with the anti-intellectual mouth breathers that are currently in charge of our state government has got to be extremely frustrating.
If you "don't know anything", educate yourself. Part of it is because I have little faith in the press to report anything anymore. I have had enough personal experience with a few press stories where they just got the facts completely wrong, that I read everything with a healthy dose of skepticism.
It took me literally 30 seconds of a Google search into "Kansas State faculty salaries", to come across link. Pres. Schulz says there's no money for salary increases for his faculty, yet the budget shows a 14% increase for himself between 2012 and 2013. His budget for deans has increase 43% in the last 4 years, and 34% for his administration staff, while faculty has gotten 4%.
To the poster who says the faculty needs a dose of reality, I can sympathize. I'm in the private sector and just now this year, my base salary is still lower than where it was in 2008, and I'm still short a bunch of overtime I once had. But for the University President to say out of one side of his mouth that faculty pay is very important and that he can't increase it because he's been handcuffed by budget issues, and then increase his own budget at 10x the rate of faculty pay, is more than embarrassing.
One of our Deans just left KSU for Ark, same position. Got. $70k raise for a lateral move. His phrase, not mine. He had to accept it. Now, I also believe it is wrong and unsustainable for the public sector to get paid substantially more than the private sector. it's crazy. The private sector are the net producers. The public sector are net consumers. Pay standards are nuts.
Originally posted by gitrdone!:
Don't know anything about that rumor but I do know from an "A+" source that Kirk is being contacted by other schools, is very respected, is under paid compared to his peers, and is frustrated with some of the faculty crap he is getting. He also likes KSU very much. Same source also said Currie is a target but that's not news. They are the best combo team KSU has ever had
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LOL. If it is true that faculty haven't had raises in years (I don't know this, but it has been claimed multiple times on this board)...he deserves every bit of that "crap."
I think Schulz is a good visionary executive, mostly because he aims high. But this "faculty crap" is a bed he has made, and if he thinks faculty at a "Top 50 Public Research University" ANYWHERE else would put up with what K-State faculty have had to put up with, he is comically mistaken. Of course, most faculty Presidents running major universities are funded by the state better than K-State has ever been, so few have to deal with the issues he has to deal with. It's a damn shame that you have joined this fight painting faculty as the "bad guy" here, gitrdone! It reminds me of the kinds of things non-academic staff members at Universities would say. And if that is happening (a lot) at K-State, then Schulz has either created or fostered a divide-and-conquer, "we vs. they" culture there.
K-State--and the BoR and Kansas legislators, specifically--should be ashamed for the lack of resources and compensation its faculty is given. Until it changes (and if Schulz is as unsympathetic to the issue as you have now at least twice suggested, it will take a new Prez to do it), K-State will NOT improve it's academic reputation; indeed, it will have trouble hanging on the best of what it currently has.
it goes on
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not defending the Animal, but they should probably take into account that the Animal's contract probably stipulated certain performance incentives and admin requirements.
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