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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 11, 2013, 09:41:54 AM
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Another example of how pathetic our executive branch has become under the leadership of a sophomoric bad person
http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=19151151
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the practice was initiated by low-level workers in Cincinnati
aka the executive branch
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FSD tries so hard
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I think if many republicans encountered an actual facist, it would blow their minds
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I think if many republicans encountered an actual facist, it would blow their minds
It's called the United States over the last 20 years
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the practice was initiated by low-level workers in Cincinnati
aka the executive branch
You don't think the Irs is part of the executive branch?
Surely you at least agree that this sort of targeting is sad and pathetic.
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Tea party people are more likely to cheat on their taxes.
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Tea party people are more likely to cheat on their taxes.
link?
Iirc, the treasury sec has been caught "cheating" on his taxes, as has the richest politician in DC, and the tax code a$$hat Charlie Rangal got caught trying to bend a few as well...
you were saying, seven?
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Zappa (and Paul) on fascism... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gLDzDklTRU
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i don't need a link, it's just a fact that everyone knows.
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Good to see the equal rights crowd out to dismiss this. 1st amendment? WGAF, we're fighting the good fight screaming homophobe and racist every time someone flies a yellow flag with a snake on it.
It's no big deal that government agency harassed a group of people, under threat of stiff criminal and civil penalties, for nothing more than their political beliefs. That sure seems like the proper role of this government.
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Good to see the equal rights crowd out to dismiss this. 1st amendment? WGAF, we're fighting the good fight screaming homophobe and racist every time someone flies a yellow flag with a snake on it.
It's no big deal that government agency harassed a group of people, under threat of stiff criminal and civil penalties, for nothing more than their political beliefs. That sure seems like the proper role of this government.
Actually agree with dick lips here except to say that it's not a hallmark of this administration in particular rather standard operating procedure for the IRS regardless of who the commander in chief is.
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IRS mumped up shouldn't have happened
impeach the president!!!!!!
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the practice was initiated by low-level workers in Cincinnati
aka the executive branch
Washington Post: IRS officials in Washington were involved (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-denounces-reported-irs-targeting-of-conservative-groups/2013/05/13/a0185644-bbdf-11e2-97d4-a479289a31f9_print.html)
Just keep those blinders on, swallowing the bullshit, choose your metaphor....
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Hey, this is what Nixon did!
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the practice was initiated by low-level workers in Cincinnati
aka the executive branch
Washington Post: IRS officials in Washington were involved (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-denounces-reported-irs-targeting-of-conservative-groups/2013/05/13/a0185644-bbdf-11e2-97d4-a479289a31f9_print.html)
Just keep those blinders on, swallowing the bullshit, choose your metaphor....
Drip... drip... drip...
Reuters: Senior Tax Officials Knew (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/14/us-usa-tax-irs-idUSBRE94B08I20130514)
Too bad this didn't come out before the election... I guess it's starting to make sense how Obama dug up all that secret tax info on Romney donors and the Koch Bros. but now he's outraged. Outraged I tell you! :curse:
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LOL at the first three responses in this thread. Especially the self described independent thinker and virulent defender of equal rights, michigancat. What a leftist tool.
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Is the IRS Commissioner considered a low level worker?
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Is the IRS Commissioner considered a low level worker?
Are you talking about Douglas Shulman? Yeah, he mumped up.
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Is the IRS Commissioner considered a low level worker?
Are you talking about Douglas Shulman? Yeah, he mumped up.
Equal rights for everyone except people I don't like. #freethinkinglib
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Is the IRS Commissioner considered a low level worker?
Are you talking about Douglas Shulman? Yeah, he mumped up.
Equal rights for everyone except people I don't like. #freethinkinglib
I think what these guys did was wrong. :dunno:
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Why so initially dismissive and patronizing? Was your inner partisanship and hatred towards the tea party shining through? You can tell us you're a bigot, we'll help you through it.
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Why so initially dismissive and patronizing? Was your inner partisanship and hatred towards the tea party shining through? You can tell us you're a bigot, we'll help you through it.
Because the president has basically no control over the IRS. (And they shouldn't).
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Why so initially dismissive and patronizing? Was your inner partisanship and hatred towards the tea party shining through? You can tell us you're a bigot, we'll help you through it.
Because the president has basically no control over the IRS. (And they shouldn't).
Are you making some kind of joke?
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Is the IRS Commissioner considered a low level worker?
Are you talking about Douglas Shulman? Yeah, he mumped up.
Wasn't he gone back in November?
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Why so initially dismissive and patronizing? Was your inner partisanship and hatred towards the tea party shining through? You can tell us you're a bigot, we'll help you through it.
Because the president has basically no control over the IRS. (And they shouldn't).
Are you making some kind of joke?
Nope, he believes it.
Again, this would not be the first time this administration has used the IRS to smear its enemies.
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Is the IRS Commissioner considered a low level worker?
Are you talking about Douglas Shulman? Yeah, he mumped up.
Wasn't he gone back in November?
yes
http://news.cincinnati.com/viewart/20130511/NEWS/305110110/IRS-knew-tea-party-targeted-2011
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If you Google "IRS commissioner" the entire first page is all stories about how Obama ousted him. Interesting. . .
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If you Google "IRS commissioner" the entire first page is all stories about how Obama ousted him. Interesting. . .
you're getting your IRS commissioners mixed up
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so profiling blacks by the police, and arabs by the tsa is cool and should be used, but profiling anti-tax organizations by the IRS is wrong?
i just don't understand the neocons...
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If you Google "IRS commissioner" the entire first page is all stories about how Obama ousted him. Interesting. . .
you're getting your IRS commissioners mixed up
I know what you're trying to do, and frankly, its insulting to both yours and my intelligence.
Back to this, "the president has no control over the irs" thing. . . I'm really curious for the punchline
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Chris Matthews isn't buying it. http://freebeacon.com/matthews-president-runs-irs-treasury/ (http://freebeacon.com/matthews-president-runs-irs-treasury/) Thrill up leg = :flush:
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And what a surprise, the IRS leaned on pro-life groups, too. The corruption is appalling. It's time to abolish these fuckers and switch to the fair tax (oops, hope I don't get audited now).
“In one case, the IRS withheld approval of an application for tax exempt status for Coalition for Life of Iowa. In a phone call to Coalition for Life of Iowa leaders on June 6, 2009, the IRS agent ‘Ms. Richards’ told the group to send a letter to the IRS with the entire board’s signatures stating that, under perjury of the law, they do not picket/protest or organize groups to picket or protest outside of Planned Parenthood,” the Thomas More Society announced today. “Once the IRS received this letter, their application would be approved.”
Planned Parenthood endorsed Obama in 2008 and 2012.
The IRS also pressured another pro-life group about its religious activities. “The IRS withheld approval of an application for charitable tax-exempt recognition of Christian Voices for Life, questioning the group’s involvement with ’40 Days for Life’ and ‘Life Chain’ events,” according to the law firm. “The Fort Bend County, Texas, organization was subjected to repeated and lengthy unconstitutional requests for information about the viewpoint and content of its educational communications, volunteer prayer vigils, and other protected activities.”
http://washingtonexaminer.com/report-irs-denied-tax-exempt-status-to-pro-lifers-on-behalf-of-planned-parenthood/article/2529750 (http://washingtonexaminer.com/report-irs-denied-tax-exempt-status-to-pro-lifers-on-behalf-of-planned-parenthood/article/2529750)
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Oh, I forgot. Without the IRS, how would we enforce ObamaCare?
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i think more loser tea party and pro life people should be audited.
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http://freebeacon.com/irs-ducks-gop-softballs/ (http://freebeacon.com/irs-ducks-gop-softballs/)
The IRS softball team canceled its previously scheduled game against Senate Minority Whip John Cornyn’s (R., Texas) office on Friday, as tensions between the IRS and conservatives mount in the face of widening scandal.
“Team Cornyn softball team was scheduled to play the IRS team on Friday, ‘the Cheetahs,’” Cornyn wrote on his Facebook page. “Game has been cancelled by IRS, without rescheduling.”
A spokesperson for Cornyn confirmed the last-minute cancellation but was unsure of the reason.
“We contacted them to confirm our game which was scheduled for tomorrow night, and they said they needed to reschedule,” Drew Brandewie said. “Guess they needed an extension.”
:lol:
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The Cheetahs is an elite name for an IRS softball team.
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Well, the pres. appointed a new acting IRS commissioner today. Curious as to whether this constitutes" anything to do with the IRS"?
Michigancat, care to chime in?
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Shulman and Sarah Hall Ingram need to be brought in front of congress and grilled.
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I'm really disappointed in the equal rights people. Not a modicom of outrage from them here. True colors really shining through, I guess.
My favorite thing about this is how it completely vindicates the tea party. I mean of all the things that could attack the tea party, the democrats thought the rough ridin' IRS was strategically the safest vehicle. LOL
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Oh, I forgot. Without the IRS, how would we enforce ObamaCare?
And naturally...
IRS Official in Charge During Tea Party Targeting Now Runs Health Care Office (http://abcnews.go.com/m/blogEntry?id=19197239)
It's like a real life rough ridin' parody. :facepalm:
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Were there fuckups with the IRS involving this whole thing? Absolutely and groups should not be targeted solely based on their political views or affiliations. That is a pretty asinine thing to do.
Having said that, I will say there is a chance that this whole things was more of a disparate impact than disparate treatment. It shouldn't really come as a surprise that groups who are in large part anti-tax got targeted by the taxing authority. One would logically assume those anti-tax groups are more likely to either not pay their taxes or figure out a way to not have to pay as much in taxes. On NPR recently there was a former IRS worker who said that just in her dealings the word "patriot" was commonly found in the names of tax evading groups. That is just one IRS worker's experience, not necessarily accurate on a larger scale. Let's not forget that 501(c)(4) groups are suppose to be predominantly for social welfare and not to be predominantly for politics. When the title of an organization has something to do with "tea party" or "american patriots" that pretty much screams political. Just like a group with the name "communist" or "socialist" would scream of being political.
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What about groups with "progressive" or "Obama" in the name. Sounds political.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/irs-stalled-conservative-groups-but-gave-speedy-approval-to-obama-foundation/2013/05/16/90c53e8a-be57-11e2-89c9-3be8095fe767_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/irs-stalled-conservative-groups-but-gave-speedy-approval-to-obama-foundation/2013/05/16/90c53e8a-be57-11e2-89c9-3be8095fe767_story.html)
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Were there fuckups with the IRS involving this whole thing? Absolutely and groups should not be targeted solely based on their political views or affiliations. That is a pretty asinine thing to do.
Having said that, I will say there is a chance that this whole things was more of a disparate impact than disparate treatment. It shouldn't really come as a surprise that groups who are in large part anti-tax got targeted by the taxing authority. One would logically assume those anti-tax groups are more likely to either not pay their taxes or figure out a way to not have to pay as much in taxes. On NPR recently there was a former IRS worker who said that just in her dealings the word "patriot" was commonly found in the names of tax evading groups. That is just one IRS worker's experience, not necessarily accurate on a larger scale. Let's not forget that 501(c)(4) groups are suppose to be predominantly for social welfare and not to be predominantly for politics. When the title of an organization has something to do with "tea party" or "american patriots" that pretty much screams political. Just like a group with the name "communist" or "socialist" would scream of being political.
This is just pathetic.
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The Cheetahs is an elite name for an IRS softball team.
Totally.
Like a lawyers league team named Dewey, Cheatem & Howe (real name from a league)
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The Cheetahs is an elite name for an IRS softball team.
Totally.
Like a lawyers league team named Dewey, Cheatem & Howe (real name from a league)
That's actually a really lame joke that shows up in about half of all law school exams. Not very original. Cheetahs is good though.
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More fascists outed today. This time from within the whitehouse(unsurprisingly).
Crickets from the leftist police state Nazis. C'mon fellers, at least pretend like you're principled and even minded.
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And people thought Nixon was paranoid.
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The Lying Game continues....
Although White House Chief Counsel Kathryn Ruemmler claims to have learned about the IRS audit scandal only last month, she had three unprecedented one-on-one meetings last year with the Treasury Department’s chief lawyer, who has known about the inspector general’s investigation of the Internal Revenue Service’s targeting of conservative nonprofits since at least June 2012.
Christopher J. Meade, Treasury Chief Counsel, met with Ruemmler on September 27th, December 11th, and December 13th, 2012, according to White House Visitor Records requests. The two had never met one-on-one prior to these meetings.
Meade was one of the first members of President Barack Obama’s administration to find out about the IRS investigation in June 2012, when he became the Treasury Department’s acting general counsel.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/23/ruemmler-met-one-on-one-with-treasury-lawyer-long-before-april/#ixzz2U9NWen00
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The Lying Game continues....
Although White House Chief Counsel Kathryn Ruemmler claims to have learned about the IRS audit scandal only last month, she had three unprecedented one-on-one meetings last year with the Treasury Department’s chief lawyer, who has known about the inspector general’s investigation of the Internal Revenue Service’s targeting of conservative nonprofits since at least June 2012.
Christopher J. Meade, Treasury Chief Counsel, met with Ruemmler on September 27th, December 11th, and December 13th, 2012, according to White House Visitor Records requests. The two had never met one-on-one prior to these meetings.
Meade was one of the first members of President Barack Obama’s administration to find out about the IRS investigation in June 2012, when he became the Treasury Department’s acting general counsel.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/23/ruemmler-met-one-on-one-with-treasury-lawyer-long-before-april/#ixzz2U9NWen00
That was a different Kathryn Ruemmler and Christopher J. Meade.
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Lois Lerner
Outed fascist, bigot and criminal.