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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: Pete on April 29, 2013, 08:37:58 PM
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Anyone gone through a big siding replacement? Anyone purchased a house with vinyl siding, or refused to purchase a house because of it?
My house is white, and is the type of house that will probably always stay white (style wise). So, I tend to think that anyone buying my house someday would be more cool with the idea of it having to stay white if I installed white vinyl siding.
Thinking back, if my house had white vinyl on it when I was evaluating purchasing it, I would have been great with that, because I wouldn't have to paint the rough rider. But, maybe some people don't value that as much.
I'm having trouble deciding what to do about siding here, guys...
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Anyone gone through a big siding replacement? Anyone purchased a house with vinyl siding, or refused to purchase a house because of it?
My house is white, and is the type of house that will probably always stay white (style wise). So, I tend to think that anyone buying my house someday would be more cool with the idea of it having to stay white if I installed white vinyl siding.
Thinking back, if my house had white vinyl on it when I was evaluating purchasing it, I would have been great with that, because I wouldn't have to paint the rough rider. But, maybe some people don't value that as much.
I'm having trouble deciding what to do about siding here, guys...
post a picture of the house
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the (white) house i bought as my first home had vinyl siding when i bought it... overall its been good, no paiting, looks good year round... had some hail damage to it and i think thats your biggest downside, doesn't take very big hail to punch some holes in it, and you have to remove and replace any piece that has them... i'd imagine with wood siding you could at least just repaint the spots that don't look very good and replace the really bad ones at your discretion.
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I had major siding issues with my house and had to replace it. My subdivision doesnt allow vinyl so I had to go with hardie board. I would have gone with a quality vinyl if I could of. Hardie is a good product but real pricey and you still have to paint. I'd go with a quality vinyl if you're allowed to.
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gonna want to talk to sundance(poundsign)kid here.
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Steel siding
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Steel siding
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Bulletproof steel.
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is vinyl siding for poors? not an expert here, but I could really get behind Pete's no painting stance. I am painting the house (paying someone else to paint the house) this summer.
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is vinyl siding for poors? not an expert here, but I could really get behind Pete's no painting stance. I am painting the house (paying someone else to paint the house) this summer.
Bet I know what color you choose!
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is vinyl siding for poors? not an expert here, but I could really get behind Pete's no painting stance. I am painting the house (paying someone else to paint the house) this summer.
Yes, and it looks like crap. If you live in a neighborhood that even allows it you're probably poor.
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remove vinyl siding
install hardie plank siding
watch neighbor ladies' panties drop as they admire your class and sophistication
watch home value go up
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gonna want to talk to sundance(poundssterling)kid here.
:D
I would not buy a house that had cacty vinyl siding. I would also not buy a house with vinyl soffit. You can get a quality vinyl siding that will look good and hold up well over time. It is still the cheapest option and you do kind of get what you pay for. Depending on the house, you will typically have seams when you go with vinyl siding that become unsightly after a few seasons. Vinyl expands and contracts up to 1/2 throughout the seasons.
Cement board or engineered wood siding are all the rage on new construction around MHK. They look nice from afar and for the most part up close. There is quite a bit of calking involved that can look shitty over time. Cement board is typically painted after installation, while the wood kind can be prepainted to a custom color.
Steel is the number one best option for quality, appearance, and standing up over time to the weather and temperature changes in KS. You can get seamless steel siding which looks really nice. It is also the most expensive route. If money is not an option, go with steel.
No matter what you do, go with aluminum soffit. It just looks so much better and is better quality than vinyl soffit.
If you plan on staying in the home, I would go with one of the last two options, or choose a good quality vinyl. If you plan on selling at some point, I'll leave that up to you.
Also, if you live in MHK, I might be able to install it for you! :)
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I just conceptually invented concrete siding and it's the best.
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is vinyl siding for poors? not an expert here, but I could really get behind Pete's no painting stance. I am painting the house (paying someone else to paint the house) this summer.
DLEW?!?!?!
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Why not just put up brick? You never have to paint it and it looks great.
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I just conceptually invented concrete siding and it's the best.
hardie board is fiber cement, and sometimes called concrete board.
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Pete, post your address so we can look at your house on google street view and get an idea of what we're dealing with here. Thanks.
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I think I'll just pay to have my existing stuff patched up and repainted.
I will probably be selling this place in three years.
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My HOA saved so much money last year from not having to pay snow plow guys and getting a new cheaper contract with some other guys for something that we are painting every house in the neighborhood. I was not at the meeting where they voted to paint the houses (or any other meeting) but I would have enjoyed hearing about and voting on the other options for the money. Like, how close would we have been to putting in a huge ass pool in one of the green spaces? So, I suggest you move to a neighborhood with a baller HOA.
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My HOA saved so much money last year from not having to pay snow plow guys and getting a new cheaper contract with some other guys for something that we are painting every house in the neighborhood. I was not at the meeting where they voted to paint the houses (or any other meeting) but I would have enjoyed hearing about and voting on the other options for the money. Like, how close would we have been to putting in a huge ass pool in one of the green spaces? So, I suggest you move to a neighborhood with a baller HOA.
My next home will probably be in a maintenance free community, with a high-end HOA system. My current hood has a decent HOA deal, but they still let people paint their houses weird colors.
This current house had some pretty bad wood rot on it when I bought it, and I had almost all of it repaired years ago, but it's due again. Frustrating to have to do this every 7 years or so. eff that. This is the last time.
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My HOA saved so much money last year from not having to pay snow plow guys and getting a new cheaper contract with some other guys for something that we are painting every house in the neighborhood. I was not at the meeting where they voted to paint the houses (or any other meeting) but I would have enjoyed hearing about and voting on the other options for the money. Like, how close would we have been to putting in a huge ass pool in one of the green spaces? So, I suggest you move to a neighborhood with a baller HOA.
My next home will probably be in a maintenance free community, with a high-end HOA system. My current hood has a decent HOA deal, but they still let people paint their houses weird colors.
This current house had some pretty bad wood rot on it when I bought it, and I had almost all of it repaired years ago, but it's due again. Frustrating to have to do this every 7 years or so. eff that. This is the last time.
my hoa requires a one time $25 dollar fee from everyone that moves into the neighborhood. i was told that it could potentially be used to repair the signs at the entry into the neighborhood if they ever broke or needed replaced.
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Our city requires all new houses be built of brick.
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Baller HOAs are definitely the way to go. Entirely maintenance free (outside) and I love it.
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Our city requires all new houses be built of brick.
My canadian friend would like to know which dallas suburb that is
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Baller HOAs are definitely the way to go. Entirely maintenance free (outside) and I love it.
same here. feel so elite and lazy.
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My parents put siding on their house the summer after my junior year of high school. I was woken up every day that summer by 7am. Worst summer ever.
(MODS feel free to duplicate this post in the first world problems thread)
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Brick is by far the best way to go.
Pretty elite. Also keeps the house comfy temperature wise and quite too.
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Stucco it.
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Brick is by far the best way to go.
Pretty elite. Also keeps the house comfy temperature wise and quite too.
Yeah, the author of the 3 little pigs knew what he was talking about. Brick is the best.
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Yes, Pete, listen to all of these geniuses and go with brick since you think you'll probably sell in three years.
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Rhino lining spray on bedliner
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Our city requires all new houses be built of brick.
My canadian friend would like to know which dallas suburb that is
Little Elm
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Pete:
Just go with some cheap vinyl then
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Pete:
Just go with some cheap vinyl then
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I am concerned about resell. Wouldn't a cheap vinyl hurt my resell pretty bad?
I think my cheapest option that will still preserve resell is to spend a bunch to repair wood rot and re-seal everything and a full repaint. I think I'd still come out $3-5K less than a new vinyl residing, wouldn't I?
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Asbestos shingle siding holla!! :flush:
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I love renting
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Pete:
Just go with some cheap vinyl then
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I am concerned about resell. Wouldn't a cheap vinyl hurt my resell pretty bad?
I think my cheapest option that will still preserve resell is to spend a bunch to repair wood rot and re-seal everything and a full repaint. I think I'd still come out $3-5K less than a new vinyl residing, wouldn't I?
Depending on the amount of rot, itd save you more than that. I thought you were definitely siding.
In order to side your house they would have to tear off all of your old siding, and put up fan fold. You could probably replace wood for the price of that labor and material alone.
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guys- my house is like particle board or something on the outside. anyway, there are a few places on the bottom where that board is rotting or whatever. what to do? house is six or seven years old.
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guys- my house is like particle board or something on the outside. anyway, there are a few places on the bottom where that board is rotting or whatever. what to do? house is six or seven years old.
Is your siding touching the ground?
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guys- my house is like particle board or something on the outside. anyway, there are a few places on the bottom where that board is rotting or whatever. what to do? house is six or seven years old.
Time to move, rd
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guys- my house is like particle board or something on the outside. anyway, there are a few places on the bottom where that board is rotting or whatever. what to do? house is six or seven years old.
Time to move, rd
It's probably not rotting just been hit by the lawnmower too many times.
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Pete:
Just go with some cheap vinyl then
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I am concerned about resell. Wouldn't a cheap vinyl hurt my resell pretty bad?
I think my cheapest option that will still preserve resell is to spend a bunch to repair wood rot and re-seal everything and a full repaint. I think I'd still come out $3-5K less than a new vinyl residing, wouldn't I?
Depending on the amount of rot, itd save you more than that. I thought you were definitely siding.
In order to side your house they would have to tear off all of your old siding, and put up fan fold. You could probably replace wood for the price of that labor and material alone.
Bingo, thanks Sundance!
Replace woodrot and reseal/repaint it is!!!!
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guys- my house is like particle board or something on the outside. anyway, there are a few places on the bottom where that board is rotting or whatever. what to do? house is six or seven years old.
Ya, that's the rough ridin' crap I have on the sides and back of my house. You are going to have to do wood rot repair once every 5-7 years....basically on the same schedule as re-painting. Pisses me off.
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Pete:
Just go with some cheap vinyl then
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I am concerned about resell. Wouldn't a cheap vinyl hurt my resell pretty bad?
I think my cheapest option that will still preserve resell is to spend a bunch to repair wood rot and re-seal everything and a full repaint. I think I'd still come out $3-5K less than a new vinyl residing, wouldn't I?
Depending on the amount of rot, itd save you more than that. I thought you were definitely siding.
In order to side your house they would have to tear off all of your old siding, and put up fan fold. You could probably replace wood for the price of that labor and material alone.
Bingo, thanks Sundance!
Replace woodrot and reseal/repaint it is!!!!
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guys- my house is like particle board or something on the outside. anyway, there are a few places on the bottom where that board is rotting or whatever. what to do? house is six or seven years old.
Ya, that's the rough ridin' crap I have on the sides and back of my house. You are going to have to do wood rot repair once every 5-7 years....basically on the same schedule as re-painting. Pisses me off.
Shitty building practices.
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guys- my house is like particle board or something on the outside. anyway, there are a few places on the bottom where that board is rotting or whatever. what to do? house is six or seven years old.
Is your siding touching the ground?
no. a good foot off. can take pics. :dunno:
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guys- my house is like particle board or something on the outside. anyway, there are a few places on the bottom where that board is rotting or whatever. what to do? house is six or seven years old.
Is your siding touching the ground?
no. a good foot off. can take pics. :dunno:
can you draw a pic? would probably be more helpful.
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Can anyone give me a thumbs up or down on these guys:
http://www.amext.com/ (http://www.amext.com/)
Thanks
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guys- my house is like particle board or something on the outside. anyway, there are a few places on the bottom where that board is rotting or whatever. what to do? house is six or seven years old.
Is your siding touching the ground?
no. a good foot off. can take pics. :dunno:
Hmmmm. Is there something that is keeping the water from getting off of it? Does it sit on top of some other material like a concrete ledge or anything? That isn't supposed to be happening if it is that far off the ground and you are keeping it painted.
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Can anyone give me a thumbs up or down on these guys:
http://www.amext.com/ (http://www.amext.com/)
Thanks
I had them put windows and a sliding patio door in our house. Not the best windows but far from the worst. Not nearly as expensive as thermal guard, pella, or Anderson either. Don't know about the siding part of the business. I was sticking with cement board siding.
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guys- my house is like particle board or something on the outside. anyway, there are a few places on the bottom where that board is rotting or whatever. what to do? house is six or seven years old.
Is your siding touching the ground?
no. a good foot off. can take pics. :dunno:
Your house isn't nearly as old as mine. Mine was built in an era when Masonite board was used for siding on the sides and back of the house. It rots like a mother rough rider. Maybe you have Masonite board? :dunno:
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i think neighborhood/ schools with non shitty yards and high # of rooms/ toilets / garages has way more impact on resale value than cladding. But whatever. Do vinyl or holy crap put some EIFS with a nice fake-ass stone wainscot. make sure that EIFS rough ridin' drains. Paint your mother rough ridin' house brown. this is JOCO. This is JOCO.
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i think neighborhood/ schools with non shitty yards and high # of rooms/ toilets / garages has way more impact on resale value than cladding. But whatever. Do vinyl or holy crap put some EIFS with a nice fake-ass stone wainscot. make sure that EIFS rough ridin' drains. Paint your mother rough ridin' house brown. this is JOCO. This is JOCO.
Ya, I am not in that part of Joco. Brown isn't an option on my place. It's a white colonial, and it will stay a white colonial.
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guys- my house is like particle board or something on the outside. anyway, there are a few places on the bottom where that board is rotting or whatever. what to do? house is six or seven years old.
Is your siding touching the ground?
no. a good foot off. can take pics. :dunno:
Your house isn't nearly as old as mine. Mine was built in an era when Masonite board was used for siding on the sides and back of the house. It rots like a mother rough rider. Maybe you have Masonite board? :dunno:
Whoever invented Masonite and thought it was a good material to use on the exterior of a house deserves a swift kick to the taint.
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The hardboard crap they use now really isn't much better then Masonite. The main thing with any of that stuff is that it is installed properly and then caulked and painted well. The problem is a lot of builders slap it on all sloppy like and then do a half ass paint job. None of the problems show up for five to ten years so they don't give a damn. It normally starts rotting from the bottom first and slowly works it way up and gets all puffed out. If you catch it early enough they can sometimes cut the bottom rotten part out and then cover it with trim boards.
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i think neighborhood/ schools with non shitty yards and high # of rooms/ toilets / garages has way more impact on resale value than cladding. But whatever. Do vinyl or holy crap put some EIFS with a nice fake-ass stone wainscot. make sure that EIFS rough ridin' drains. Paint your mother rough ridin' house brown. this is JOCO. This is JOCO.
Ya, I am not in that part of Joco. Brown isn't an option on my place. It's a white colonial, and it will stay a white colonial.
there's no shame in vinyl then. Just make sure your shutters are in good shape and don't actually function as shutters
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Insurance, fire, profit.
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Insurance, fire, profit.
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The hardboard crap they use now really isn't much better then Masonite. The main thing with any of that stuff is that it is installed properly and then caulked and painted well. The problem is a lot of builders slap it on all sloppy like and then do a half ass paint job. None of the problems show up for five to ten years so they don't give a damn. It normally starts rotting from the bottom first and slowly works it way up and gets all puffed out. If you catch it early enough they can sometimes cut the bottom rotten part out and then cover it with trim boards.
oh man i think it's this you guys. i don't think the builder was good and it's starting at the bottom in just a few places but it is working up and is getting puffy. it's also like wet all the time. why is it wet? house is seven years old i think. maybe six. what do i do?
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The hardboard crap they use now really isn't much better then Masonite. The main thing with any of that stuff is that it is installed properly and then caulked and painted well. The problem is a lot of builders slap it on all sloppy like and then do a half ass paint job. None of the problems show up for five to ten years so they don't give a damn. It normally starts rotting from the bottom first and slowly works it way up and gets all puffed out. If you catch it early enough they can sometimes cut the bottom rotten part out and then cover it with trim boards.
oh man i think it's this you guys. i don't think the builder was good and it's starting at the bottom in just a few places but it is working up and is getting puffy. it's also like wet all the time. why is it wet? house is seven years old i think. maybe six. what do i do?
Insurance, fire, profit.
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Do one of those hay mud brick things that hippies build.
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The hardboard crap they use now really isn't much better then Masonite. The main thing with any of that stuff is that it is installed properly and then caulked and painted well. The problem is a lot of builders slap it on all sloppy like and then do a half ass paint job. None of the problems show up for five to ten years so they don't give a damn. It normally starts rotting from the bottom first and slowly works it way up and gets all puffed out. If you catch it early enough they can sometimes cut the bottom rotten part out and then cover it with trim boards.
oh man i think it's this you guys. i don't think the builder was good and it's starting at the bottom in just a few places but it is working up and is getting puffy. it's also like wet all the time. why is it wet? house is seven years old i think. maybe six. what do i do?
I'd find a good painter that also does wood rot repairs and have them come out to take a look. If your house is only six or seven years old you are probably catching it early. You may be able to get away with only minimal wood rot repairs and a new paint job. If they take out all the rot and do a good job with the caulking and painting you should be ok for quite awhile.
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The hardboard crap they use now really isn't much better then Masonite. The main thing with any of that stuff is that it is installed properly and then caulked and painted well. The problem is a lot of builders slap it on all sloppy like and then do a half ass paint job. None of the problems show up for five to ten years so they don't give a damn. It normally starts rotting from the bottom first and slowly works it way up and gets all puffed out. If you catch it early enough they can sometimes cut the bottom rotten part out and then cover it with trim boards.
The properties of cement disagrees with you. FYI...you can still buy the "Masonite" type siding if you like, but it is not the same as the product that is made with cement.
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the answer is stucco
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The hardboard crap they use now really isn't much better then Masonite. The main thing with any of that stuff is that it is installed properly and then caulked and painted well. The problem is a lot of builders slap it on all sloppy like and then do a half ass paint job. None of the problems show up for five to ten years so they don't give a damn. It normally starts rotting from the bottom first and slowly works it way up and gets all puffed out. If you catch it early enough they can sometimes cut the bottom rotten part out and then cover it with trim boards.
The properties of cement disagrees with you. FYI...you can still buy the "Masonite" type siding if you like, but it is not the same as the product that is made with cement.
The hardboard siding I was reffering to is the masonite type of siding not the cement siding. As I said many builders are still using stuff pretty similar to masonite. The cement siding you're thinking of is often called Hardie board because James Hardie is the most popular brand but Hardboard siding and Hardie board siding are two very different things.
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Time to dust this bad boy off. I'm thinking of getting new siding on my house this year. Has anyone had any noteworthy experiences with siding in the last 6 years? Is the LP Smartside product worth a darn or should I stick with the Hardie plank stuff? Thanks in advance.
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I never did get that siding! I just ended up paying to have it painted again, and it will probably need it again next summer. Should have done the siding.
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Our local Amish use shingles, Tamko 20 yr. guarantee, works for them. :dubious: