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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: ZappaCat on April 23, 2013, 10:22:24 AM
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Stan Weber to be on 810 soon talking about Angel, won't be able to listen, can anyone give a recap?
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I'll try to give one zappa. there may be a delay or I may not give one at all but if possible I will.
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I'll try to give one zappa. there may be a delay or I may not give one at all but if possible I will.
:thumbs: sd 810 recaps are always great.
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I'll try to give one zappa. there may be a delay or I may not give one at all but if possible I will.
:thumbs: sd 810 recaps are always great.
i enjoy it quite a bit!
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I'll try to give one zappa. there may be a delay or I may not give one at all but if possible I will.
Thanks SD!
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picked up mid-stream-
was optimistic about next year, now you have to question it (thx stan). thinks about next year the same way he thought about this year (thx stan). mid to lower part of conference.
fortunately k-state really attacked PG position in recruiting (thx stan)
one of the new kids (maybe foster) will start at PG next season (thx stan), thomas not eligible until 12/15 (thx stan)
going from veteran leader to maybe a new kid starting PG although Doc Spradling could run the point during the non-con but hopefully moves back to 2 by conf games
loss of angel absorbed/impact lessened somewhat by oscar's motion offense
shane southwell needs to keep his focus and is capable of playing a lot of positions and could play the 2 to Doc's 1.
shane is the wildcard (<----new nickname?)
would oscar have gotten contract extension if angel left before? stan: yes absolutely (Big 12 coy) + it was written in his contract
angel never acted like was unhappy, no hint was given. angel really wants to be closer to his family
soren's final four-
1) football teams record next year: 9-3
2) do you foul up 3 w/ less than 10 seconds: yes
3) the basketball record next year: 22-13
4) who do the chiefs take #1: luke jokel
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- Stan completely caught off guard by this. Spoke with him at awards banquet and he was in great spirits
- Where does this put KSU in the Big 12 next year? Was very optimistic, possible threat a the top. Now you don't have that rock at PG. Views them like they were preseason this year...mid-pack. Possible Foster starting at PG. Veteran to needing a a Freshman to start PG.
- Does Weber's offense ease the pain? Yes. A guy like Will can play PG because of motion offense; ball movement. Shane's ability to play many positions is huge...possible off-guard.
- Would Weber have gotten the extension had this happened before? Yes, absolutely. Obligated by contract.
- No hint at Angel being unhappy..."Ever"
- Hearing same info behind the scenes on reason for leaving.
- Stan says 22-13 bball record next
- 9-3 football
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day late and a dollar short, :lol:
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day late and a dollar short, :lol:
yep, I just couldn't type what I was personally listening to fast enough I guess
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Guys, didn't Will play in the motion offense last year? Weird that it didn't hide his inability last yr.
Huh.
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Would take 9-3 in football
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Would take 9-3 in football
qft
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Would take 9-3 in football
Definitely.
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Guys, didn't Will play in the motion offense last year? Weird that it didn't hide his inability last yr.
Huh.
Yeah, that's a dumb point. All you have to do is look at the UMKC and South Dakota games when Angel and Tay didn't play because of injuries to get a picture of how next year might look. But we still had Rodney to play.
The new guards better be able to play well right away. Stan's 22-13 seems pretty bold.
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:frown: It's official, welcome back K-State Basketball 1990-2006 :facepalm:
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I bet oscar's motion offense is the cure for cancer. Is there anything it can't do?
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Guys, didn't Will play in the motion offense last year? Weird that it didn't hide his inability last yr.
Huh.
Yeah, that's a dumb point. All you have to do is look at the UMKC and South Dakota games when Angel and Tay didn't play because of injuries to get a picture of how next year might look. But we still had Rodney to play.
The new guards better be able to play well right away. Stan's 22-13 seems pretty bold.
we were 22-12 (9-7) in the 08-09 season. I think (with the b12 being so down next year) we should have a comparable record to that season, so i'll buy 22-13... livin life on the bubble all year.
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fortunately k-state really attacked PG position in recruiting
:lol: good one stan
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day late and a dollar short, :lol:
yep, I just couldn't type what I was personally listening to fast enough I guess
I'm incred efficient at transcribing
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day late and a dollar short, :lol:
yep, I just couldn't type what I was personally listening to fast enough I guess
I'm incred efficient at transcribing
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Stan's 22-13 seems pretty bold.
not necessarily...
"There's an art to scheduling. Coach (Gene) Keady told me a long time ago -- and I thought he was crazy --scheduling might be more important than recruiting, and in some aspects it is"
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Stan's 22-13 seems pretty bold.
not necessarily...
"There's an art to scheduling. Coach (Gene) Keady told me a long time ago -- and I thought he was crazy --scheduling might be more important than recruiting, and in some aspects it is"
oh yeah :frown:
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day late and a dollar short, :lol:
yep, I just couldn't type what I was personally listening to fast enough I guess
I'm incred efficient at transcribing
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Stan's 22-13 seems pretty bold.
not necessarily...
"There's an art to scheduling. Coach (Gene) Keady told me a long time ago -- and I thought he was crazy --scheduling might be more important than recruiting, and in some aspects it is"
Good point.
We know we have Gonzaga next year, a likely OOC loss, but its likely the rest of the OOC is pretty soft. Probably 11-2 at worse.
The Big 12 is down, so 9-9 might still be manageable. Maybe 8-10 or 7-11.
Then 1-1 in the Big 12 tournament.
And 0-1 in the NIT.
That would be around 20-14.
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Stan's 22-13 seems pretty bold.
not necessarily...
"There's an art to scheduling. Coach (Gene) Keady told me a long time ago -- and I thought he was crazy --scheduling might be more important than recruiting, and in some aspects it is"
Good point.
We know we have Gonzaga next year, a likely OOC loss, but its likely the rest of the OOC is pretty soft. Probably 11-2 at worse.
The Big 12 is down, so 9-9 might still be manageable. Maybe 8-10 or 7-11.
Then 1-1 in the Big 12 tournament.
And 0-1 in the NIT.
That would be 20-14.
fireable offense
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fireable offense
You can be as pissed as you want, but you know that isn't going to happen under that scenario.
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Stan's 22-13 seems pretty bold.
not necessarily...
"There's an art to scheduling. Coach (Gene) Keady told me a long time ago -- and I thought he was crazy --scheduling might be more important than recruiting, and in some aspects it is"
Good point.
We know we have Gonzaga next year, a likely OOC loss, but its likely the rest of the OOC is pretty soft. Probably 11-2 at worse.
The Big 12 is down, so 9-9 might still be manageable. Maybe 8-10 or 7-11.
Then 1-1 in the Big 12 tournament.
And 0-1 in the NIT.
That would be around 20-14.
sounds like a fun season!
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fireable offense
You can be as pissed as you want, but you know that isn't going to happen under that scenario.
oh i will be as pissed as i want.
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Guys, didn't Will play in the motion offense last year? Weird that it didn't hide his inability last yr.
Huh.
Yeah, that's a dumb point. All you have to do is look at the UMKC and South Dakota games when Angel and Tay didn't play because of injuries to get a picture of how next year might look. But we still had Rodney to play.
The new guards better be able to play well right away. Stan's 22-13 seems pretty bold.
we were 22-12 (9-7) in the 08-09 season. I think (with the b12 being so down next year) we should have a comparable record to that season, so i'll buy 22-13... livin life on the bubble all year.
'08 had Jake, Denis, Curt, Jamar, and Dom.
'13 Sprads, Shane, Gip, Whothefuckcares, whothefuckcares
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Stan's 22-13 seems pretty bold.
not necessarily...
"There's an art to scheduling. Coach (Gene) Keady told me a long time ago -- and I thought he was crazy --scheduling might be more important than recruiting, and in some aspects it is"
Good point.
We know we have Gonzaga next year, a likely OOC loss, but its likely the rest of the OOC is pretty soft. Probably 11-2 at worse.
The Big 12 is down, so 9-9 might still be manageable. Maybe 8-10 or 7-11.
Then 1-1 in the Big 12 tournament.
And 0-1 in the NIT.
That would be around 20-14.
12-1 in crap ooc
8-10 con
1-1 big12 tournament
1-1 NIT
22-13.
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Stan's 22-13 seems pretty bold.
not necessarily...
"There's an art to scheduling. Coach (Gene) Keady told me a long time ago -- and I thought he was crazy --scheduling might be more important than recruiting, and in some aspects it is"
Good point.
We know we have Gonzaga next year, a likely OOC loss, but its likely the rest of the OOC is pretty soft. Probably 11-2 at worse.
The Big 12 is down, so 9-9 might still be manageable. Maybe 8-10 or 7-11.
Then 1-1 in the Big 12 tournament.
And 0-1 in the NIT.
That would be around 20-14.
12-1 in crap ooc
8-10 con
1-1 big12 tournament
1-1 NIT
22-13.
frank always sucked in the big 12 tourney
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Guys, didn't Will play in the motion offense last year? Weird that it didn't hide his inability last yr.
Huh.
Yeah, that's a dumb point. All you have to do is look at the UMKC and South Dakota games when Angel and Tay didn't play because of injuries to get a picture of how next year might look. But we still had Rodney to play.
The new guards better be able to play well right away. Stan's 22-13 seems pretty bold.
we were 22-12 (9-7) in the 08-09 season. I think (with the b12 being so down next year) we should have a comparable record to that season, so i'll buy 22-13... livin life on the bubble all year.
'08 had Jake, Denis, Curt, Jamar, and Dom.
'13 Sprads, Shane, Gip, Whothefuckcares, whothefuckcares
Would take a jersey of the last guy you mentioned
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I bet oscar's motion offense is the cure for cancer. Is there anything it can't do?
Call a timeout with less than 10 seconds left in a NCAA tourney game. :curse: oscar! Thanks for opening up old wounds.
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Get ready for some serious Bruceketball next year...pass pass pass stand around...pass pass pass...stand...pass....3.2.1....chuck a three...
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Guys, didn't Will play in the motion offense last year? Weird that it didn't hide his inability last yr.
Huh.
Yeah, that's a dumb point. All you have to do is look at the UMKC and South Dakota games when Angel and Tay didn't play because of injuries to get a picture of how next year might look. But we still had Rodney to play.
The new guards better be able to play well right away. Stan's 22-13 seems pretty bold.
we were 22-12 (9-7) in the 08-09 season. I think (with the b12 being so down next year) we should have a comparable record to that season, so i'll buy 22-13... livin life on the bubble all year.
'08 had Jake, Denis, Curt, Jamar, and Dom.
'13 Sprads, Shane, Gip, Whothefuckcares, whothefuckcares
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Guys, didn't Will play in the motion offense last year? Weird that it didn't hide his inability last yr.
Huh.
Yeah, that's a dumb point. All you have to do is look at the UMKC and South Dakota games when Angel and Tay didn't play because of injuries to get a picture of how next year might look. But we still had Rodney to play.
The new guards better be able to play well right away. Stan's 22-13 seems pretty bold.
we were 22-12 (9-7) in the 08-09 season. I think (with the b12 being so down next year) we should have a comparable record to that season, so i'll buy 22-13... livin life on the bubble all year.
'08 had Jake, Denis, Curt, Jamar, and Dom.
'13 Sprads, Shane, Gip, Whothefuckcares, whothefuckcares
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Get ready for some serious Bruceketball next year...pass pass pass stand around...pass pass pass...stand...pass....3.2.1....chuck a three...
oscar's motion has proven time and time again that it doesn't need some fancy pants ball-handler point guard to thrive. It transcends the concept of point guards. Crisp ball movement and spacing. It's like you've never watched a second of oscar's motion. Least important player on the floor at all times in oscar's motion? Point guard. It works better when you don't have some dork that likes to run around slapping the ball off the floor all the time.
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NIT? What's the projection with Angel? He's not THAT valuable.
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oscar makes a living during the summers teaching vivid entertainment what crisp ball movement is all about.
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oscar makes a living during the summers teaching vivid entertainment what crisp ball movement is all about.
buh-zing
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NIT? What's the projection with Angel? He's not THAT valuable.
Oh, but he is.
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NIT? What's the projection with Angel? He's not THAT valuable.
Oh, but he is.
There are very few players, if any, who have that big of an impact on a team's performace.
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NIT? What's the projection with Angel? He's not THAT valuable.
Oh, but he is.
There are very few players, if any, who have that big of an impact on a team's performace.
Angel, on this team, is one of them.
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NIT? What's the projection with Angel? He's not THAT valuable.
Oh, but he is.
There are very few players, if any, who have that big of an impact on a team's performace.
Angel, on this team, is one of them.
Sure thing NIT vs. sure thing NCAA? That seems to be what's being implied here. That's nuts.
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NIT? What's the projection with Angel? He's not THAT valuable.
Oh, but he is.
There are very few players, if any, who have that big of an impact on a team's performace.
Angel, on this team, is one of them.
Sure thing NIT vs. sure thing NCAA? That seems to be what's being implied here. That's nuts.
I think it's sure thing NCAA vs. bubble NCAA. It's a very reasonable objective observation.
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NIT? What's the projection with Angel? He's not THAT valuable.
Oh, but he is.
There are very few players, if any, who have that big of an impact on a team's performace.
Angel, on this team, is one of them.
Sure thing NIT vs. sure thing NCAA? That seems to be what's being implied here. That's nuts.
Mid-to-lower NCAA seed vs. NIT shoo-in isn't "nuts" when talking about the presence vs. absence of your veteran all-conference PG.
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NIT? What's the projection with Angel? He's not THAT valuable.
Oh, but he is.
There are very few players, if any, who have that big of an impact on a team's performace.
Angel, on this team, is one of them.
Sure thing NIT vs. sure thing NCAA? That seems to be what's being implied here. That's nuts.
he was second team all league and first team defense at the most important position on the court and one that we were rail thin at to begin with. i'd say he was pretty important.
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NIT? What's the projection with Angel? He's not THAT valuable.
Oh, but he is.
There are very few players, if any, who have that big of an impact on a team's performace.
Angel, on this team, is one of them.
Sure thing NIT vs. sure thing NCAA? That seems to be what's being implied here. That's nuts.
I think it's sure thing NCAA vs. bubble NCAA. It's a very reasonable objective observation.
I was reponding to people who were explicitly stating NIT (which I take to exclude bubble).
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NIT? What's the projection with Angel? He's not THAT valuable.
Oh, but he is.
There are very few players, if any, who have that big of an impact on a team's performace.
Angel, on this team, is one of them.
Sure thing NIT vs. sure thing NCAA? That seems to be what's being implied here. That's nuts.
he was second team all league and first team defense at the most important position on the court and one that we were rail thin at to begin with. i'd say he was pretty important.
No doubt, but this seems more like the usual, "OMG WE'LL BE mumped WITHOUT OUR STAR PLAYER WHO IS GRADUATING" type of overreaction. There's always some unexpected new player that comes along.
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This reminds me a lot of when Dez left and Fred Peete stepped up.
Or when Nick Williams left and Jarret Hart and Timmy Ellis eased our pain. always someone unexpected.
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This reminds me a lot of when Dez left and Fred Peete stepped up.
Or when Nick Williams left and Jarret Hart and Timmy Ellis eased our pain. always someone unexpected.
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This reminds me a lot of when Dez left and Fred Peete stepped up.
Or when Nick Williams left and Jarret Hart and Timmy Ellis eased our pain. always someone unexpected.
shane southwell for jamar!
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And who can forget Mario Taybron filling the void left by Peete. He beat KU!
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You're saying those teams suffered a dramatic drop off from one year to the next?
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You're saying those teams suffered a dramatic drop off from one year to the next?
I'm agreeing w/ you. :dunno:
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And who can forget Mario Taybron filling the void left by Peete. He beat KU!
Its just so cyclical; Nick Williams stepped in to fill the chasm caused by Richie Terry's sudden departure.
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imagine if santa monica's own, keith amerson, wasn't there to step into steve fritz's shoes :eek:
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You're saying those teams suffered a dramatic drop off from one year to the next?
I'm agreeing w/ you. :dunno:
I initially thought so, but couldn't escape the conditioning that you were somehow being a smart ass.
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You're saying those teams suffered a dramatic drop off from one year to the next?
I'm agreeing w/ you. :dunno:
I initially thought so, but couldn't escape the conditioning that you were somehow being a smart ass.
I :lol:ed
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You're saying those teams suffered a dramatic drop off from one year to the next?
I'm agreeing w/ you. :dunno:
I initially thought so, but couldn't escape the conditioning that you were somehow being a smart ass.
Yeha, the only season that was noticeably worse was going from Nick Williams to Jarret Hart/Frank Richards. Went from 6-10 to 4-12. Two conference games could definitely be the difference between NCAA lock and bubble for sure. Obviously there's lots of factors involved beyond replacing a single player. (fun fact I discovered in my research: Wooly was only sub-.500 in 3 of 6 seasons!)
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It's not only sprads (or some freshman) stepping in for angel but also shane stepping in for mcgruds. I have a hard time seeing both happen.
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It's not only sprads (or some freshman) stepping in for angel but also shane stepping in for mcgruds. I have a hard time seeing both either happen.
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EMAPE needs to go off next season
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EMAPE needs to go off...
...the team?
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EMAPE needs to go off...
...the team?
No, statistically.
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EMAPE needs to go off...
...the team?
No, statistically.
well, I mean...he won't
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EMAPE needs to go off...
...the team?
No, statistically.
well, I mean...he won't
Yeah, let's step back and acknowledge the fact that we're discussing Omari Lawrence needing to "go off" for us next year.
:frown:
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it doesn't need some fancy pants ball-handler point guard
Can't believe everyone missed this, which is why we won't miss Angel.
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it doesn't need some fancy pants ball-handler point guard
Can't believe everyone missed this, which is why we won't miss Angel.
It works better when you don't have some dork that likes to run around slapping the ball off the floor all the time.
This was the funnier part. Obviously.
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it doesn't need some fancy pants ball-handler point guard
Can't believe everyone missed this, which is why we won't miss Angel.
It works better when you don't have some dork that likes to run around slapping the ball off the floor all the time.
This was the funnier part. Obviously.
they were both good.
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:D
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will we beat South Carolina in the NIT?
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NIT? What's the projection with Angel? He's not THAT valuable.
My thoughts 2-3 weeks ago were 24-25 wins and being a 6 seed entering NCAA Tourney. Now, I think a 11-12 seed is a realistic goal for an optimist.
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NIT? What's the projection with Angel? He's not THAT valuable.
My thoughts 2-3 weeks ago were 24-25 wins and being a 6 seed entering NCAA Tourney. Now, I think a 11-12 seed is a realistic goal for an optimist.
I always thought of myself as an optimist, but I guess I'm not.
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will we beat South Carolina in the NIT?
If we played South Carolina in the NIT it will absolutely be the first time, and hopefully the last, since I became a wildcat that I will actively root against K-State.
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will we beat South Carolina in the NIT?
If we played South Carolina in the NIT it will absolutely be the first time, and hopefully the last, since I became a wildcat that I will actively root against K-State.
:blindfold:
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There are people of influence around the program that would see success in the NIT as actual success/progress and I want no part of that. An NIT final four is good for a program like USC and I want Frank to do well there, I wouldn't consider that at the expense of K-State, the opposite actually.
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will we beat South Carolina in the NIT?
If we played South Carolina in the NIT it will absolutely be the first time, and hopefully the last, since I became a wildcat that I will actively root against K-State.
What if we played Angel's new team?
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will we beat South Carolina in the NIT?
If we played South Carolina in the NIT it will absolutely be the first time, and hopefully the last, since I became a wildcat that I will actively root against K-State.
What if we played Angel's new team?
He'd have to go somewhere awful to be in the NIT, so yeah I guess Angel too.
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I too would actively root for us to lose an NIT game.
Winning the NIT would be the worst.
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MIR could you document who these "people of influence" are, you know, the one's that would consider the NIT progress.
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Winning the NIT would be the worst.
I aggresively mocked Baylor's twitter when they tweeted they ended the season with the third longest active winning streak behind Louisville and some super pud team that played no post season. What an unbelievably stupid thing to brag about.
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I too would actively root for us to lose an NIT game.
Winning the NIT would be the worst.
Would rather not make the NIT if we don't make the NCAA's.
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Winning the NIT would be the worst.
I aggresively mocked Baylor's twitter when they tweeted they ended the season with the third longest active winning streak behind Louisville and some super pud team that played no post season. What an unbelievably stupid thing to brag about.
No joke. I'm familiar with #humblebrag...is there a #stupidbrag?
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Winning the NIT would be the worst.
I aggresively mocked Baylor's twitter when they tweeted they ended the season with the third longest active winning streak behind Louisville and some super pud team that played no post season. What an unbelievably stupid thing to brag about.
CBI champs are on a badass winning streak too i bet
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Winning the NIT would be the worst.
I aggresively mocked Baylor's twitter when they tweeted they ended the season with the third longest active winning streak behind Louisville and some super pud team that played no post season. What an unbelievably stupid thing to brag about.
CBI champs are on a badass winning streak too i bet
that could have been the pud team that finished in second actually. I didn't really research their schedule.
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I too would actively root for us to lose an NIT game.
Winning the NIT would be the worst.
Would rather not make the NIT if we don't make the NCAA's.
You, me and Jake. (And probably a few other people)
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I too would actively root for us to lose an NIT game.
Winning the NIT would be the worst.
Would rather not make the NIT if we don't make the NCAA's.
You, me and Jake. (And probably a few other people)
NIT is acceptable for a guy building a program but I cringed at the sound of the townie crowds full of little kids for Hugs and Franks NIT home games.
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I too would actively root for us to lose an NIT game.
Winning the NIT would be the worst.
Would rather not make the NIT if we don't make the NCAA's.
You, me and Jake. (And probably a few other people)
NIT is acceptable for a guy building a program but I cringed at the sound of the townie crowds full of little kids for Hugs and Franks NIT home games.
I was at our last NIT home game. It wasn't a quiet townie event.
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I too would actively root for us to lose an NIT game.
Winning the NIT would be the worst.
Would rather not make the NIT if we don't make the NCAA's.
You, me and Jake. (And probably a few other people)
NIT is acceptable for a guy building a program but I cringed at the sound of the townie crowds full of little kids for Hugs and Franks NIT home games.
I was at our last NIT home game. It wasn't a quiet townie event.
I did not mean to imply it was quiet, it was the higher pitched scream of the crowd that seemed much different to me. More like a boy band concert of something.
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did anyone say hoskins for massey?
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MIR could you document who these "people of influence" are, you know, the one's that would consider the NIT progress.
Seriously? Like everyone. Instead of people of influence I should have said 95% of anyone associated with Kansas State. It's not unique to us either. SD posted about Baylor beating their chest after winning the NIT after a huge letdown of a season. Gregg Marshall was giving interviews the week of the Final Four in front of a huge NIT Champions poster. There have been schools that have put their NIT trophy on the cover of their media guide the next season. I'm not aware of any coach being on the hot seat after winning the NIT. People adopt a lemonade out of lemons philosophy. I bet if Kentucky won the NIT those bourbon swilling hillbillies would be online talking trash about how they would have made the Sweet 16 even without Nerlens Noel.
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MIR could you document who these "people of influence" are, you know, the one's that would consider the NIT progress.
Seriously? Like everyone. Instead of people of influence I should have said 95% of anyone associated with Kansas State. It's not unique to us either. SD posted about Baylor beating their chest after winning the NIT after a huge letdown of a season. Gregg Marshall was giving interviews the week of the Final Four in front of a huge NIT Champions poster. There have been schools that have put their NIT trophy on the cover of their media guide the next season. I'm not aware of any coach being on the hot seat after winning the NIT. People adopt a lemonade out of lemons philosophy. I bet if Kentucky won the NIT those bourbon swilling hillbillies would be online talking trash about how they would have made the Sweet 16 even without Nerlens Noel.
Exactly what I thought, no one.
Laughable.
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Do we have different people of influence (ie boosters) than we did during asbury and wooly? Cause they seemed pleased as punch with crap basketball. Hell, ksu boosters almost let hartman wreck the program and certainly would have let snyder 1.0 do it.
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Do we have different people of influence (ie boosters) than we did during asbury and wooly? Cause they seemed pleased as punch with crap basketball. Hell, ksu boosters almost let hartman wreck the program and certainly would have let snyder 1.0 do it.
Apparently you seem to forget the role of Dr. Jon Wefald in keeping Wooldridge around when Weiser wanted to fire him. Jack Hartman was only allowed a couple of really bad seasons before he was forced to retire, and that after, by any measure, was a pretty nice run at K-State, with multiple conference titles and deep NCAA tourney runs (with several epic NCAA tourney games in there). But those were completely different times. Neither Wooldridge or Asbury were being paid compensation packages of $2 million dollars a year. There wasn't the mandatory seat donations in Bramlage on the level there is today, there wasn't the revenue expectations of basketball like there is today. The booster base has expanded significantly. Back then K-State athletics was limited by the administration as to who they could approach for major donations, and that group consisted of about a half a page in Ernie Barrett's little black book. Not the case anymore.
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Back then K-State athletics was limited by the administration as to who they could approach for major donations, and that group consisted of about a half a page in Ernie Barrett's little black book. Not the case anymore.
some pretty good athletic dept vs foundation money battles currently going on now from what i hear. turf war LA in the late 80's blood/crip type stuff. pretty great.
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Do we have different people of influence (ie boosters) than we did during asbury and wooly? Cause they seemed pleased as punch with crap basketball. Hell, ksu boosters almost let hartman wreck the program and certainly would have let snyder 1.0 do it.
Apparently you seem to forget the role of Dr. Jon Wefald in keeping Wooldridge around when Weiser wanted to fire him. Jack Hartman was only allowed a couple of really bad seasons before he was forced to retire, and that after, by any measure, was a pretty nice run at K-State, with multiple conference titles and deep NCAA tourney runs (with several epic NCAA tourney games in there). But those were completely different times. Neither Wooldridge or Asbury were being paid compensation packages of $2 million dollars a year. There wasn't the mandatory seat donations in Bramlage on the level there is today, there wasn't the revenue expectations of basketball like there is today. The booster base has expanded significantly. Back then K-State athletics was limited by the administration as to who they could approach for major donations, and that group consisted of about a half a page in Ernie Barrett's little black book. Not the case anymore.
Hartman had one season in his last 4 where he was above .500 (his last @16-14) and in that time didn't finish higher than 5th in the big 8. I understand the weefer's propensity to control everything. And adjust asbury's and wooly's compensation to current value. Which is even irrelevant to me because even if their compensation is low it only highlights the fact that our boosters didn't care. So my question still remains, what boosters of influence do we have now that are different than 10 years ago? Hell, vanier had to sign off on bill coming back.
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Back then K-State athletics was limited by the administration as to who they could approach for major donations, and that group consisted of about a half a page in Ernie Barrett's little black book. Not the case anymore.
some pretty good athletic dept vs foundation money battles currently going on now from what i hear. turf war LA in the late 80's blood/crip type stuff. pretty great.
serious about the AD versus the Foundation?
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Back then K-State athletics was limited by the administration as to who they could approach for major donations, and that group consisted of about a half a page in Ernie Barrett's little black book. Not the case anymore.
some pretty good athletic dept vs foundation money battles currently going on now from what i hear. turf war LA in the late 80's blood/crip type stuff. pretty great.
serious about the AD versus the Foundation?
yeah
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:doom: I heard Angel was actually considering going to KU , that can't be true , can it ?
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:doom: I heard Angel was actually considering going to KU , that can't be true , can it ?
No. Lawrence is farther from his home, and closer to Shannon Spradling.
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Back then K-State athletics was limited by the administration as to who they could approach for major donations, and that group consisted of about a half a page in Ernie Barrett's little black book. Not the case anymore.
some pretty good athletic dept vs foundation money battles currently going on now from what i hear. turf war LA in the late 80's blood/crip type stuff. pretty great.
serious about the AD versus the Foundation?
yeah
can you give any deets or is it just that the AD and foundation are both hitting up the same people for money and those people are trying to decide who should get it
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Back then K-State athletics was limited by the administration as to who they could approach for major donations, and that group consisted of about a half a page in Ernie Barrett's little black book. Not the case anymore.
some pretty good athletic dept vs foundation money battles currently going on now from what i hear. turf war LA in the late 80's blood/crip type stuff. pretty great.
serious about the AD versus the Foundation?
yeah
can you give any deets or is it just that the AD and foundation are both hitting up the same people for money and those people are trying to decide who should get it
nothing too interesting. more/less what you said.
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Sorry if Luke'd. Glad he's happy, but :bawl:
"I'm just so happy as a person right now," Rodriguez said. "There's so many times that we just talk to each other and say, 'Wow, we're really happy about what we're doing. We're getting after it.'"
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20140108/george-washington-colonials/?eref=sihp
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Sorry if Luke'd. Glad he's happy, but :bawl:
"I'm just so happy as a person right now," Rodriguez said. "There's so many times that we just talk to each other and say, 'Wow, we're really happy about what we're doing. We're getting after it.'"
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20140108/george-washington-colonials/?eref=sihp
I'm happy he is happy.
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how have i never realized that Miami and we traded Denis for Angel straight up. everybody gets 4 years. i suppose we kind of won the trade because Angel's first 2 years were more productive than Denis' first 2 years. Denis had 2 fabulous years here too; we'll see how Angel does (probably amazing)
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We won the trade cause of Jevon and Denis. Kick rocks, Angel. I guess they'd be sand pebbles in Miami, but kick those too.
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how have i never realized that Miami and we traded Denis for Angel straight up. everybody gets 4 years. i suppose we kind of won the trade because Angel's first 2 years were more productive than Denis' first 2 years. Denis had 2 fabulous years here too; we'll see how Angel does (probably amazing)
Also have to factor in Angel's knees in to the equation they are in terrible shape.
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We won the trade cause of Jevon and Denis. Kick rocks, Angel. I guess they'd be sand pebbles in Miami, but kick those too.
That sounds mean and spiteful. I want him to build some sand castles and enjoy life!
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we won the trade
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we won the trade
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I swear to god if you guys are talking bad about Angel I'm going to come kick all of you in the balls and/or vag :don'tcare:
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I swear to god if you guys are talking bad about Angel I'm going to come kick all of you in the balls and/or vag :don'tcare:
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I'd take Denis ALL DAY over Angel ALLL DAAAAYY
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angel + jake
vs
denis + jake
:dunno:
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denis + jake
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I'd take Denis ALL DAY over Angel ALLL DAAAAYY
And it's not even close!
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Denis is one of the top 5 cats ever. That said, who knows what Angel could have been.
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Denis is one of the top 5 cats ever. That said, who knows what Angel could have been.
#2 behind Jake if you discount Beas for only staying one year
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That said, who knows what Angel could have been.
he's elian gonzalez.. thats all he will ever be
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Denis is one of the top 5 cats ever. That said, who knows what Angel could have been.
#2 behind Jake if you discount Beas for only staying one year
Discounting Beas is something that would disqualify ppl from parricipating in a reasonable discussion about it, imo.
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Okay, #3 then
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denis + jake
listen there's no wrong answer here. i would take denis as well because although he was a pretty streaky shooter, when he was hot, he was 44 points at Texas hot. not to mention the constant circle jerking we received based on his fastest player in college basketball status. plus the scoreboard shot and the immense emotion. who knows what could have been with angel tho?
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angel + jake
vs
denis + jake
:dunno:
Looking forward to future jevon + marcus :love:
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I would take Angel + Jake. I would rather have Denis if we don't have another good guard who is capable of scoring a lot of points, though.
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:don'tcare:
Stop talking mean about Angel you guys.
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:don'tcare:
Stop talking mean about Angel you guys.
8mp and I are gonna kick all of their asses. You in?
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very overrated
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:don'tcare:
Stop talking mean about Angel you guys.
8mp and I are gonna kick all of their asses. You in?
8mp ate a whole Red Baron pizza by himself the other day, I think he might be kind of fat and out of shape now. You may want to consider finding someone else to join you in the asskicking.
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:don'tcare:
Stop talking mean about Angel you guys.
8mp and I are gonna kick all of their asses. You in?
It's time to move on.
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Back then K-State athletics was limited by the administration as to who they could approach for major donations, and that group consisted of about a half a page in Ernie Barrett's little black book. Not the case anymore.
some pretty good athletic dept vs foundation money battles currently going on now from what i hear. turf war LA in the late 80's blood/crip type stuff. pretty great.
serious about the AD versus the Foundation?
yeah
can you give any deets or is it just that the AD and foundation are both hitting up the same people for money and those people are trying to decide who should get it
nothing too interesting. more/less what you said.
This insidery stuff is so great. Even if it's just tidbits. Would really like to be a fly on a wall in some of these booster convos, or even when they were just watching games.
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I make a thread mocking KU throwing people under the bus and now I see people throwing stones at Angel. You should be ashamed of yourselves for this.
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I make a thread mocking KU throwing people under the bus and now I see people throwing stones at Angel. You should be ashamed of yourselves for this.
truly disgusting
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:love:
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:love: :love: :love:
It broke my heart when he left
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Angel + Jamar was adorableness overload. :love:
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I'd welcome him back with open arms and unconditionally.
I wish him the best.
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yeah sunny you go girl. meanwhile back at the big boy ranch
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:love: :love: :love:
It broke my heart when he left
how's your clothing line doing, james franklin?
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yeah sunny you go girl. meanwhile back at the big boy ranch
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:confused:
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angel + jake
vs
denis + jake
:dunno:
Looking forward to future jevon + marcus :love:
This. 100%
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:love: :love: :love:
It broke my heart when he left
how's your clothing line doing, james franklin?
http://goEMAW.com/forum/Smileys/goEMAW/Raised%20eyebrows.gif
Not good... :cry:
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:love: :love: :love:
It broke my heart when he left
how's your clothing line doing, james franklin?
http://goEMAW.com/forum/Smileys/goEMAW/Raised%20eyebrows.gif
Not good... :cry:
the good news is that I am now totally convinced that you are actually james frankling (ksu bball edition)
I am looking forward to your anecdotes, and thank you for your service!
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:love: :love: :love:
It broke my heart when he left
how's your clothing line doing, james franklin?
http://goEMAW.com/forum/Smileys/goEMAW/Raised%20eyebrows.gif
Not good... :cry:
the good news is that I am now totally convinced that you are actually james frankling (ksu bball edition)
I am looking forward to your anecdotes, and thank you for your service!
pm the mods if you need them to delete all this to preserve your anonymity :runaway:
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Angel finished his KSU career #7 on the KSU all-time assists list. Behind Steve Henson, Jacob Pullen, Clent Stewart and Tyrone Adams. Also behind Rolando Blackman and Anthony Beane. But he's ahead of Chris Griffin, so there's that!
I can see why you guys think he was an all-timer Wild Wildcat!
:buh-bye: <--- Angel
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He's not a cat anymore so people can trash him all they want and I won't give a crap. I'm spiteful. Deal with it!
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He's not a cat anymore so people can trash him all they want and I won't give a crap. I'm spiteful. Deal with it!
Why? Let it all out here. We'll work through this.
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people who trash angel are fuckfaces. plain and simple.
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people who trash angel are fuckfaces. plain and simple.
it's as good of a test as any.
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people who trash angel are fuckfaces. plain and simple.
it's as good of a test as any.
I guess you could say I passed with flying colors amirite?
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Angel's K-State.
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He's not a cat anymore so people can trash him all they want and I won't give a crap. I'm spiteful. Deal with it!
Why? Let it all out here. We'll work through this.
Forgive and forget? I don't even know what that means.
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people who trash angel are fuckfaces. plain and simple.
it's as good of a test as any.
Yeah, it's how I decide who I can discuss K-State sports with.
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He's not a cat anymore so people can trash him all they want and I won't give a crap. I'm spiteful. Deal with it!
I'm a nice person, so I'll just sat they I don't like your stance here.
However, if I wasn't such a great guy and #1cat I would tell you that I hoped that multiple close friends/ relatives of yours die horrible deaths of infectious disease and that when they get to the afterlife and ask their omniscient creator "why?" he says, "remember KITNfury? Well, that bad person disparaged Angel Rodriguez on a Kansas State bbs and someone had to pay." Then they (the dead ones), in a fit of furious anger, not only because you caused their deaths, but because they were so incensed that you said such awful things about Angel Rodriguez pleaded with the supreme being that they would be allowed to return back to earth as wraiths in order to torment you for the rest of your days, to which the creator of the universe would obviously oblige and you would be freaked out like those paranormal activity movies all the time, jerk.
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#TeamSpiteful
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He's not a cat anymore so people can trash him all they want and I won't give a crap. I'm spiteful. Deal with it!
I'm a nice person, so I'll just sat they I don't like your stance here.
However, if I wasn't such a great guy and #1cat I would tell you that I hoped that multiple close friends/ relatives of yours die horrible deaths of infectious disease and that when they get to the afterlife and ask their omniscient creator "why?" he says, "remember KITNfury? Well, that bad person disparaged Angel Rodriguez on a Kansas State bbs and someone had to pay." Then they (the dead ones), in a fit of furious anger, not only because you caused their deaths, but because they were so incensed that you said such awful things about Angel Rodriguez pleaded with the supreme being that they would be allowed to return back to earth as wraiths in order to torment you for the rest of your days, to which the creator of the universe would obviously oblige and you would be freaked out like those paranormal activity movies all the time, jerk.
I never disparaged Angel. Just don't care if others do.
It's pretty simple really. I don't know Angel personally. But him leaving makes ksu hoops worse. KSU hoops being worse makes me sad. I don't like it when people make me sad. I put my happiness ahead of the happiness of people I don't know
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I want Angel to be happy. I want Miami to lose every game.
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Angel finished his KSU career #7 on the KSU all-time assists list. Behind Steve Henson, Jacob Pullen, Clent Stewart and Tyrone Adams. Also behind Rolando Blackman and Anthony Beane. But he's ahead of Chris Griffin, so there's that!
I can see why you guys think he was an all-timer Wild Wildcat!
:buh-bye: <--- Angel
As a true freshman and sophomore you dumb bastard. I don't feel like I am being overly harsh because you know this but chose to ignore it to make a moronic point.
I could punch every one of you idiots trashing a true freshman point guard when comparing him to a junior and a 5th year senior, morons.
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Angel finished his KSU career #7 on the KSU all-time assists list. Behind Steve Henson, Jacob Pullen, Clent Stewart and Tyrone Adams. Also behind Rolando Blackman and Anthony Beane. But he's ahead of Chris Griffin, so there's that!
I can see why you guys think he was an all-timer Wild Wildcat!
:buh-bye: <--- Angel
As a true freshman and sophomore you dumb bastard. I don't feel like I am being overly harsh because you know this but chose to ignore it to make a moronic point.
I could punch every one of you idiots trashing a true freshman point guard when comparing him to a junior and a 5th year senior, morons.
Yeah, that may have been the dumbest argument I've ever seen. #teamAngel
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Imagine that, except it's Angel coming back to the bench and smiling at oscar over sinking a three. Does that picture happen even once this year? Probably not. Angel is too much Frank, too much JYC, too much of everything that was incredible for a few years. I don't get arguing over his place with the greats - for me it will always be about the great potential and style of ball that Angel's leaving signaled the end of.
Frank's teams had their own brand of potential, and I've come around to the awesome feeling of seeing these Freshmen play whatever brand of basketball this is. I still haven't come around on oscar, or Bruceketball, or Bruceketcruiting, but it is currently giving me a better season and more hope for the next 3 years than I ever thought I'd have.
I hate that talking about Angel becomes a de facto #BID vs #oscar argument. Angel is riding a rough ridin' cruiser bike on the beach in Miami talking about dominating a lesser conference at the new Transfer U, and I'm not over it. That's all.
They'll have two years of eligibility left, and both will be 23 year-olds poised to dominate the ACC as seniors. For now, they discuss their plight while riding bikes on South Beach.
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Angel finished his KSU career #7 on the KSU all-time assists list. Behind Steve Henson, Jacob Pullen, Clent Stewart and Tyrone Adams. Also behind Rolando Blackman and Anthony Beane. But he's ahead of Chris Griffin, so there's that!
I can see why you guys think he was an all-timer Wild Wildcat!
:buh-bye: <--- Angel
As a true freshman and sophomore you dumb bastard. I don't feel like I am being overly harsh because you know this but chose to ignore it to make a moronic point.
I could punch every one of you idiots trashing a true freshman point guard when comparing him to a junior and a 5th year senior, morons.
Yeah, that may have been the dumbest argument I've ever seen. #teamAngel
Guys, he was only ON PACE to break the assists record, he didn't actually do it. Obviously he sucks.
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Angel finished his KSU career #7 on the KSU all-time assists list. Behind Steve Henson, Jacob Pullen, Clent Stewart and Tyrone Adams. Also behind Rolando Blackman and Anthony Beane. But he's ahead of Chris Griffin, so there's that!
I can see why you guys think he was an all-timer Wild Wildcat!
:buh-bye: <--- Angel
As a true freshman and sophomore you dumb bastard. I don't feel like I am being overly harsh because you know this but chose to ignore it to make a moronic point.
I could punch every one of you idiots trashing a true freshman point guard when comparing him to a junior and a 5th year senior, morons.
Yeah, that may have been the dumbest argument I've ever seen. #teamAngel
Guys, he was only ON PACE to break the assists record, he didn't actually do it. Obviously he sucks.
Agreed, also Foster sucks obviously.
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Can you imagine the perimeter D we would have with Angel and Jevon this year and next? I mean, a line up of Angel, Jevon, Marcus, Southwell and Gip?
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Can you imagine the perimeter D we would have with Angel and Jevon this year and next? I mean, a line up of Angel, Jevon, Marcus, Southwell and Gip?
Seems stupid to play Angel and Jevon at the same time.
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Can you imagine the perimeter D we would have with Angel and Jevon this year and next? I mean, a line up of Angel, Jevon, Marcus, Southwell and Gip?
Seems stupid to play Angel and Jevon at the same time.
only if keeping the other team from running any offense and getting steald is stupid.
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Can you imagine the perimeter D we would have with Angel and Jevon this year and next? I mean, a line up of Angel, Jevon, Marcus, Southwell and Gip?
Seems stupid to play Angel and Jevon at the same time.
only if keeping the other team from running any offense and getting steald is stupid.
:dubious:
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people who trash angel are fuckfaces. plain and simple.
it's as good of a test as any.
I guess you could say I passed with flying colors amirite?
Question 2 on the test is: "Do you love Jacob Pullen with all your heart?"
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people who trash angel are fuckfaces. plain and simple.
it's as good of a test as any.
I guess you could say I passed with flying colors amirite?
Question 2 on the test is: "Do you love Jacob Pullen with all your heart?"
Hmmmm what's Q3?
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3. Is the following statement true or false? Puerto Ricans have fiery tempers.
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3. Is the following statement true of false? Puerto Ricans have fiery tempers.
:D
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Angel's Freshman yr. Frank basically threw the @OU game by refusing to play Angel to "teach him a lesson" . Pissed me off. Still mad about it.
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Can you imagine the perimeter D we would have with Angel and Jevon this year and next? I mean, a line up of Angel, Jevon, Marcus, Southwell and Gip?
Seems stupid to play Angel and Jevon at the same time.
Why? Did you forget about Jake and Denis in the same backcourt? Either of those guys can guard a 2 on the off chance you'd run into a 6'5" 2 guard who can go into the post you just deal with it.
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Angel finished his KSU career #7 on the KSU all-time assists list. Behind Steve Henson, Jacob Pullen, Clent Stewart and Tyrone Adams. Also behind Rolando Blackman and Anthony Beane. But he's ahead of Chris Griffin, so there's that!
I can see why you guys think he was an all-timer Wild Wildcat!
:buh-bye: <--- Angel
As a true freshman and sophomore you dumb bastard. I don't feel like I am being overly harsh because you know this but chose to ignore it to make a moronic point.
I could punch every one of you idiots trashing a true freshman point guard when comparing him to a junior and a 5th year senior, morons.
Yeah, that may have been the dumbest argument I've ever seen. #teamAngel
What, is he coming back to KSU for his junior and senior year? What did I miss?
His stats at KSU are set, as far as I know. And I actually cherry-picked his best career stat at KSU. He's not even in the top 50 in scoring. What Angel gave to KSU was exactly slightly more than Chris Griffin. I give zero craps what stats he puts up for Miami. I only care about what he did while he was EMAW, not what stats he's able to put up elsewhere.
Maybe he's a better a point guard than Clent Stewart. I don't care. If he shows it, it will be while he playing for another team. I'm curious why folks cheer for him after he walked away from our team...
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Angel finished his KSU career #7 on the KSU all-time assists list. Behind Steve Henson, Jacob Pullen, Clent Stewart and Tyrone Adams. Also behind Rolando Blackman and Anthony Beane. But he's ahead of Chris Griffin, so there's that!
I can see why you guys think he was an all-timer Wild Wildcat!
:buh-bye: <--- Angel
As a true freshman and sophomore you dumb bastard. I don't feel like I am being overly harsh because you know this but chose to ignore it to make a moronic point.
I could punch every one of you idiots trashing a true freshman point guard when comparing him to a junior and a 5th year senior, morons.
Yeah, that may have been the dumbest argument I've ever seen. #teamAngel
What, is he coming back to KSU for his junior and senior year? What did I miss?
His stats at KSU are set, as far as I know. And I actually cherry-picked his best career stat at KSU. He's not even in the top 50 in scoring. What Angel gave to KSU was exactly slightly more than Chris Griffin. I give zero craps what stats he puts up for Miami. I only care about what he did while he was EMAW, not what stats he's able to put up elsewhere.
Maybe he's a better a point guard than Clent Stewart. I don't care. If he shows it, it will be while he playing for another team. I'm curious why folks cheer for him after he walked away from our team...
:flush:
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Angel finished his KSU career #7 on the KSU all-time assists list. Behind Steve Henson, Jacob Pullen, Clent Stewart and Tyrone Adams. Also behind Rolando Blackman and Anthony Beane. But he's ahead of Chris Griffin, so there's that!
I can see why you guys think he was an all-timer Wild Wildcat!
:buh-bye: <--- Angel
As a true freshman and sophomore you dumb bastard. I don't feel like I am being overly harsh because you know this but chose to ignore it to make a moronic point.
I could punch every one of you idiots trashing a true freshman point guard when comparing him to a junior and a 5th year senior, morons.
Yeah, that may have been the dumbest argument I've ever seen. #teamAngel
What, is he coming back to KSU for his junior and senior year? What did I miss?
His stats at KSU are set, as far as I know. And I actually cherry-picked his best career stat at KSU. He's not even in the top 50 in scoring. What Angel gave to KSU was exactly slightly more than Chris Griffin. I give zero craps what stats he puts up for Miami. I only care about what he did while he was EMAW, not what stats he's able to put up elsewhere.
Maybe he's a better a point guard than Clent Stewart. I don't care. If he shows it, it will be while he playing for another team. I'm curious why folks cheer for him after he walked away from our team...
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who cares about Angel? he ditched us.
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who cares about Angel? he ditched us.
yup.
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I'm curious why folks cheer for him after he walked away from our team...
The .gif and emoticon didn't really answer this question for me. I'm resigned to the fact that maybe I'll never get an answer.
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I'm curious why folks cheer for him after he walked away from our team...
The .gif and emoticon didn't really answer this question for me. I'm resigned to the fact that maybe I'll never get an answer.
People like Angel, Frank and Bob did a lot of good for KSU and personally gave me great joy so I want good things for them. It helps that we have continued to have success after each of them left.
On Angel specifically, he stayed a year more than most guys in situation would and I really appreciate that. Also, the sappy side of me says he played some pickup with Jevon, knew we had a capable replacement and factored that into his decision.
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I'm curious why folks cheer for him after he walked away from our team...
The .gif and emoticon didn't really answer this question for me. I'm resigned to the fact that maybe I'll never get an answer.
People like Angel, Frank and Bob did a lot of good for KSU and personally gave me great joy so I want good things for them. It helps that we have continued to have success after each of them left.
On Angel specifically, he stayed a year more than most guys in situation would and I really appreciate that. Also, the sappy side of me says he played some pickup with Jevon, knew we had a capable replacement and factored that into his decision.
He did.
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My last memory of him is shitting the bed vs la salle. :dunno:
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My last memory of him is shitting the bed vs la salle. :dunno:
shitting the bed is worse than pissing the floor
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I'd like him more if he would have acknowledged me in the derb when I said hi, but no, he just kept walking like a stuck up prick!
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My last memory of him is shitting the bed vs la salle. :dunno:
shitting the bed is worse than pissing the floor
Damn straight.
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I'm curious why folks cheer for him after he walked away from our team...
The .gif and emoticon didn't really answer this question for me. I'm resigned to the fact that maybe I'll never get an answer.
I don't hold vendettas against many 20 year olds that I've never met :dunno:
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I'm curious why folks cheer for him after he walked away from our team...
The .gif and emoticon didn't really answer this question for me. I'm resigned to the fact that maybe I'll never get an answer.
I don't hold vendettas against many 20 year olds that I've never met :dunno:
I can't think of anyone, in any category, that I have a vendetta against. I've got one ex that I don't think so highly of, but even there it's pretty chill.