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Pac-12 coordinator of basketball officials and former NBA referee Ed Rush has been investigated by the Pac-12 for comments made about Arizona coach Sean Miller in meetings that included several Pac-12 referees.
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Rush, according to a source within the Pac-12 officiating group, told a group of referees on the Thursday of the Pac-12 tournament in Las Vegas that he would give them $5,000 or a trip to Cancun if they either "rang him up" or "ran him," meaning hit Miller with a technical or toss him out of the game. Rush then reiterated during a Friday morning meeting, according to one referee in attendance, that officials should take similar action against Miller if he did anything on Friday in the Pac-12 semifinals against UCLA.
"He was emphatic about not dealing with him (Miller)," the ref told CBSSports.com. "He made that perfectly clear."
Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott issued a statement to CBSSports.com:
"Based on the review, we have concluded that while Rush made inappropriate comments that he now regrets during internal meetings that referenced rewards, he made the comments in jest and the officials in the room realized they were not serious offers," Scott told CBSSports.com. "Following our review, we have discussed the matter with Rush, taken steps to ensure it does not happen again, and communicated our findings to all of our officials."
Referee Michael Irving -- who sources confirmed was in the room with Rush on Friday -- hit Miller with a controversial technical with 4:37 left in the Pac-12 semifinals against UCLA. The Bruins wound up winning the game, 66-64. Miller was upset about a double-dribble call on Arizona point guard Mark Lyons, arguing that a UCLA player had gotten his hand on the ball before Lyons picked it up.
Miller later claimed he did not direct any profanities at Irving or any of the other officials at the time. The technical was his first of the season.
“The reason I got the technical foul is because I said, ‘He touched the ball. He touched the ball. He touched the ball. He touched the ball. He touched the ball,'" Miller said immediately after the loss. Miller was reprimanded by the Pac-12 and fined $25,000 by the league for confronting a game official after the game had concluded, as well as for acting inappropriately toward a Pac-12 staffer in the hallway of the arena.
"They don't talk to me," he said of the officials. "If I cuss and I'm out of control and I've been warned, shame on me. When I say, 'He touched the ball, he touched the ball' because I thought the two of them could have maybe gotten together and explained that, in fact, he did touch the ball."
The source said the technical foul call was out of character for Irving.
"That's not Michael (Irving)'s mentality as a ref," said the source, who wished to remain anonymous for fear of losing assignments within the Pac-12. "He's a really good ref and manages situations without using technicals. It was absolutely because of what was said in the meeting. There's no doubt in my mind. It's a bad position to be put in."
"As a basketball referee, it's a horrible position to be put in by your supervisor," he continued. "If you don't do anything, you probably won't get any good games down the road -- or you may not get any games at all. That leaves us in a tough spot."
Arizona athletic director Greg Byrne issued this statement Monday night:
"On Sunday, March 17, we first learned of the allegation of the events that occurred during the Conference Tournament. Due to the serious implications, we immediately shared our concerns with Commissioner Scott and the Conference office. We know that an investigation was held and any further issue is a matter for the Pac-12 office."
Rush was a longtime NBA official who was also the NBA's director of officiating from 1998-2003. He replaced Bill McCabe as the Pac-12's supervisor of officials in 2012, after McCabe retired.
"He's a bully," the referee said of Rush. "He just bullies everyone. That was his whole tenor of the meeting on Friday. We're all afraid of him. He's the most respected basketball officiating person on the West Coast and he's been given all the juice."
Ed Rush did not wish to comment further, telling CBSSports.com, "Larry's made a statement. I'm in concert with what he said. We're going to move on from there."
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After many, many, many questionable calls this season which altered the outcomes of games, it seems as though the dam might be showing a few leaks on just what major college basketball is hiding: the heinous referees that are employ to govern the billion dollar enterprise of the NCAA's cash cow. I have a feeling if an intrepid reporter were able to peel back the layers to refereeing in college they would find at best refs taking out vendettas on a nightly basis, or more likely as system of corruption which included bets, kick backs, and probably some organized crime connections.
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Holy eff. "Hey, who wants to help me kill someone? What? No one? I was totally kidding. That's just my humor."
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Mark cuban knew this guy was a corrupt dork.
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Hey, hey, uh, don't worry Arizona and other Pac-12 schools, he's just totally never going to do that again. We really, really mean it.
Curtis Shaw please pick up the blue courtesy phone. Curtis Shaw blue courtesy phone, thank you.
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Mark cuban
A stud for all studs
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Wow.
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Disturbing. Very disturbing.
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Hey, hey, uh, don't worry Arizona and other Pac-12 schools, he's just totally never going to do that again. We really, really mean it.
Curtis Shaw please pick up the blue courtesy phone. Curtis Shaw blue courtesy phone, thank you.
Good to see the PAC step up and deal with this situation.
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This story made me sick.
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What's very weird is how can anyone dislike Sean Miller? He's great. Very likable. I guess maybe the refs were jelly?
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:sdeek: glad we aren't in that loser conference.
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:sdeek: glad we aren't in that loser conference.
I wouldn't call Big 12 basketball officiating stellar either. There is one team in the conference that always gets calls and the benefit of the doubt from refs.
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:sdeek: glad we aren't in that loser conference.
I wouldn't call Big 12 basketball officiating stellar either. There is one team in the conference that always gets calls and the benefit of the doubt from refs.
Damn Mountaineers...
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:sdeek: glad we aren't in that loser conference.
I wouldn't call Big 12 basketball officiating stellar either. There is one team in the conference that always gets calls and the benefit of the doubt from refs.
If you didn't see this entire season as one of the worse display of reffing, you should probably retire from watching basketball.
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:sdeek: glad we aren't in that loser conference.
I wouldn't call Big 12 basketball officiating stellar either. There is one team in the conference that always gets calls and the benefit of the doubt from refs.
If you didn't see this entire season as one of the worse display of reffing, you should probably retire from watching basketball.
Pac 12 officiating is crap, in both basketball and football. I see them a lot because my second team for both sports plays in the Pac 12. Just pointing out that as fans of a team in the Big 12, we can't really hold our heads up that high when it comes to basketball officiating because our refs are also :flush:
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okay I'm on the same page with you. yeah anyone who thinks there isn't a serious problem across ALL college basketball should retire from watching and commentating on it.
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okay I'm on the same page with you. yeah anyone who thinks there isn't a serious problem across ALL college basketball should retire from watching and commentating on it.
I agree with this. I watch a lot of college basketball, in person and on TV, both men's and women's games. The officiating this season has been the worst I've ever seen. I'm not usually one to slam the refs...this year is a bit different.
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I think it kind of started to deteriorate when they became lax on the traveling calls. (kind of serious)
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I think it kind of started to deteriorate when they became lax on the traveling calls. (kind of serious)
Its a valid point, when you alter the rules and the enforcement of rules to create a new environment you do a lot more damage than just increasing scoring.
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Officiating has changed as basketball athletes have become bigger, faster, and stronger. I don't think most officials can keep up with the game. As players became stronger, gradually the game become more and more physical as players started using their bodies more to create space and position. It wasn't that long ago that most basketball coaches and players did not advocate strength and conditioning, especially weight lifting. When more basketball coaches and programs started to see value in those things, the strength and athleticism of the athletes changed, and so did the game.
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I think it kind of started to deteriorate when they became lax on the traveling calls. (kind of serious)
Another big problem with officiating throughout all of college sports is that there are conference crews. There should be no such thing as Pac 12 refs, SEC refs, Big 12 refs, MWC refs etc etc. Just NCAA ref crews. Every league has different standards of officiating, and that really fucks with some teams during the tournament because they may end up having refs who call the game completely different from what they were used to during the season. Also, you have garbage like SEC football refs protecting their best teams during close games and Big 12 basketball refs constantly calling games differently for KU than for KU's opponents.
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Resigned
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I think it kind of started to deteriorate when they became lax on the traveling calls. (kind of serious)
Another big problem with officiating throughout all of college sports is that there are conference crews. There should be no such thing as Pac 12 refs, SEC refs, Big 12 refs, MWC refs etc etc. Just NCAA ref crews. Every league has different standards of officiating, and that really fucks with some teams during the tournament because they may end up having refs who call the game completely different from what they were used to during the season. Also, you have garbage like SEC football refs protecting their best teams during close games and Big 12 basketball refs constantly calling games differently for KU than for KU's opponents.
ummmmm
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The guys that do the Big 12 are rough ridin' awful. They do favor KU. I don't understand why it's sacrilege to point that out here. The more crap I read on the bball board, the more I'm convinced that the most voracious posters don't watch the games but just scour their kenpom bible and stat sheet Quran.
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Officiating has changed as basketball athletes have become bigger, faster, and stronger. I don't think most officials can keep up with the game. As players became stronger, gradually the game become more and more physical as players started using their bodies more to create space and position. It wasn't that long ago that most basketball coaches and players did not advocate strength and conditioning, especially weight lifting. When more basketball coaches and programs started to see value in those things, the strength and athleticism of the athletes changed, and so did the game.
While you do make a valid point about athleticism dramatically changing the game, I don't agree that there isn't a bias for certain teams at the bare minimum, and I see more and more games being altered as a direct result of referee intervention.
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just scour their kenpom bible and stat sheet Quran.
Pretty accurate.
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Are we going to make a distinction between crappy officiating and fixing games?
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I agree that the game has changed. If the issue really is the can't keep up thing, they need to add refs to the game crew, add a coaches challenge, or something to alleviate that issue.
This year really sucked ref wise.