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Title: Timeouts
Post by: HerrSonntag on March 22, 2013, 06:20:46 PM
i don't care how luked or topical this is, but Weber's timeouts have bothered me all season, it seems only fitting we go out on one.

It would be constructive to talk about how oscar might better manage timeouts, but i'm too drunk and angry for that to be a realistic course of discourse.

@ksu KU game, why burn the last timeout in a close game when you will obviously need it?

@OKST why call a TO at 10 sec left on the shot up by 2? Jesus let them play or figure something else out

What metircs does oscar need to know, in order to call a TO? i feel like his usage of time outs all season has been so garbage i don't even  :shakesfist:

Solid basketball fundamentals, terrible TOs not withstanding (today) when should a coach use a time out, besides stopping a run?
Title: Re: Timeouts
Post by: HerrSonntag on March 22, 2013, 06:29:56 PM
i appologize, in my haze i forgot this was GE, and not interested in tuckish whatifs... what i meant to say was

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Title: Re: Timeouts
Post by: Super PurpleCat on March 22, 2013, 06:30:19 PM
 :fatty:
Title: Re: Timeouts
Post by: HerrSonntag on March 22, 2013, 10:23:32 PM
Every time i see something special
Title: Re: Timeouts
Post by: HerrSonntag on March 22, 2013, 10:23:59 PM
i think, "What would it look like in ashes?"
Title: Re: Timeouts
Post by: chum1 on March 22, 2013, 10:26:11 PM
I saw people here complaining that oscar didn't use the final timeout.  He was actually trying to call it and the refs didn't see him, right?
Title: Re: Timeouts
Post by: HerrSonntag on March 22, 2013, 10:35:46 PM
I saw people here complaining that oscar didn't use the final timeout.  He was actually trying to call it and the refs didn't see him, right?

Except the cats cross midcourt at 9 seconds left and he was silent, was he too busy licking his chops? did he think that TO could be used later? did he know that he should even be thinking about winning the game?
Title: Re: Timeouts
Post by: chum1 on March 22, 2013, 10:36:58 PM
I saw people here complaining that oscar didn't use the final timeout.  He was actually trying to call it and the refs didn't see him, right?

Except the cats cross midcourt at 9 seconds left and he was silent, was he too busy licking his chops? did he think that TO could be used later? did he know that he should even be thinking about winning the game?

So, he did try to call it, then?
Title: Re: Timeouts
Post by: michigancat on March 22, 2013, 10:38:19 PM
I like not calling the timeout.

I remember Wayne Morgan and Curtis Stinson pulling this on Wooly in Ames. lavendar didn't need a timeout either, did he?
Title: Re: Timeouts
Post by: puniraptor on March 22, 2013, 10:43:10 PM
whats up with oscar calling the time out with like 1.5 left and the ref clearly seeing him and shaking his head no. Is there some basis in the rules for not allowing the timeout in that sitch?
Title: Re: Timeouts
Post by: chum1 on March 22, 2013, 10:44:43 PM
Depends on personnel.  With this team, I'd call TO and run a play.  They're pretty good at it.  Always were with Frank, too.
Title: Re: Timeouts
Post by: HerrSonntag on March 22, 2013, 10:46:14 PM
apparently they called some b12 refs for advise on officiating
Title: Re: Timeouts
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 22, 2013, 11:06:35 PM
I like not calling the timeout.

I remember Wayne Morgan and Curtis Stinson pulling this on Wooly in Ames. lavendar didn't need a timeout either, did he?

I like it, too. I don't like him trying to call the timeout with less than 2 seconds to play, though.
Title: Re: Timeouts
Post by: Kat Kid on March 22, 2013, 11:27:41 PM
This team has been awful at the end of the first half all year, like maybe has been successful once the entire season.  We've really only needed/suceeded on an end of game/end of half situation once all year and that was @ Baylor and everyone remembers it, but in the many, many times when you have in-game, full speed practice we've sucked all year with no improvement.  We did not score at the end of the first half.  We suck at it.  Anyone making the claim that some sort of set play would've been better is wrong based upon ample evidence to the contrary.
Title: Re: Timeouts
Post by: chum1 on March 22, 2013, 11:35:27 PM
This team has been awful at the end of the first half all year, like maybe has been successful once the entire season.  We've really only needed/suceeded on an end of game/end of half situation once all year and that was @ Baylor and everyone remembers it, but in the many, many times when you have in-game, full speed practice we've sucked all year with no improvement.  We did not score at the end of the first half.  We suck at it.  Anyone making the claim that some sort of set play would've been better is wrong based upon ample evidence to the contrary.

We've only done it once, yet have ample evidence?  The question is:  do you think we're better at running a set play or improvising?  I'll go with running a set play.  Our players just aren't good at creating shots for themselves.
Title: Re: Timeouts
Post by: kougar24 on March 23, 2013, 12:36:06 AM
I like not calling the timeout.

I remember Wayne Morgan and Curtis Stinson pulling this on Wooly in Ames. lavendar didn't need a timeout either, did he?

You gotta have fun with it. The fun part is, since it didn't work, we have free rein to rip on oscar for not using his TO.