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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: kso_FAN on March 22, 2013, 04:59:08 PM
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1st Pace PPP eFG% TO% OR% FTR
KSU 29 0.90 39.7% 24.2% 38.9% 13.8%
Opp 29 1.52 67.7% 6.9% 38.5% 6.5%
2nd Pace PPP eFG% TO% OR% FTR
KSU 27 1.28 51.8% 7.3% 42.1% 46.4%
Opp 27 0.69 19.4% 21.9% 18.8% 77.8%
Total Pace PPP eFG% TO% OR% FTR
KSU 57 1.07 45.6% 15.8% 40.5% 29.8%
Opp 57 1.11 50.0% 14.1% 27.6% 32.7%
About 15 minutes of great basketball isn't enough when playing terrible for the other 25. Whatever the mentality we came out with was bad enough, but whatever it was that we finished the last 5 minutes with was even worse. No excuse for coaches or players to battle back and take the lead then make zero plays down the stretch to lose.
Outcoached and outplayed for an awful end to a pretty good season.
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It was horrible defense. Like we all saw the signs of all year. Some just didn't want to see it. (I hoped it wasn't true too).
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It was horrible defense. Like we all saw the signs of all year. Some just didn't want to see it. (I hoped it wasn't true too).
wait, what?
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It was horrible defense. Like we all saw the signs of all year. Some just didn't want to see it. (I hoped it wasn't true too).
Yeah, and the first half was as bad as it gets.
zacker, you win.
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It was horrible defense. Like we all saw the signs of all year. Some just didn't want to see it. (I hoped it wasn't true too).
Yeah, and the first half was as bad as it gets.
zacker, you win.
no, we all lose.
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It was horrible defense. Like we all saw the signs of all year. Some just didn't want to see it. (I hoped it wasn't true too).
wait, what?
I know you were worried about it zacker.
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I knew right when the Cats came back to tie that they would put on the breaks and slow down the game. Read oscar like a book. #fireweber.
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We're bad on defense. But when we don't turn the opposition over, we are all-time bad.
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a pretty good season.
no, denied, today's loss erases everything else. horrible season.
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I mean La Salle made 3 shots in the 2nd half. 3-18 from the floor. And we still lost the game. Inexcusable.
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our second half defense was almost as good as KU's second half defense against us! Which is really good!
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I mean La Salle made 3 shots in the 2nd half. 3-18 from the floor. And we still lost the game. Inexcusable.
Inexcusable, you say? So can we go ahead and count you among us #burnitdown'ers?
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I'm not usually this guy, but it bears posting;
2nd half FTs:
Cats 6-13
La 12-14
Not THE reason, but still. Just another one of many.
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I'm not usually this guy, but it bears posting;
2nd half FTs:
Cats 6-13
La 12-14
Not THE reason, but still. Just another one of many.
FTR vs FT%
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I mean La Salle made 3 shots in the 2nd half. 3-18 from the floor. And we still lost the game. Inexcusable.
Did you see that 1st half? I mean, woof.
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I'm not usually this guy, but it bears posting;
2nd half FTs:
Cats 6-13
La 12-14
Not THE reason, but still. Just another one of many.
FTR vs FT%
Valid. But FT rate for the game ended up being within 3% and FT% differential is nearly 35%... (again, its one factor of many).
I mean La Salle made 3 shots in the 2nd half. 3-18 from the floor. And we still lost the game. Inexcusable.
Inexcusable, you say? So can we go ahead and count you among us #burnitdown'ers?
My outlook for the future isn't great. I just hope he makes it quick for us, but I can see middling with the NIT/bubble stretching this out for several more years.
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I mean La Salle made 3 shots in the 2nd half. 3-18 from the floor. And we still lost the game. Inexcusable.
Did you see that 1st half? I mean, woof.
Yes. Unfortunately.
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My outlook for the future isn't great. I just hope he makes it quick for us, but I can see middling with the NIT/bubble stretching this out for several more years.
Dude, that's what #burnitdown is ALL ABOUT. Welcome aboard.
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This talking point about trying to call a TO at the end will be enough for the tucks to excuse oscar and deflect the prob from oscar to the refs "screwing" us.
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I can see middling with the NIT/bubble stretching this out for several more years.
I mean, obviously this is what will happen. And then we'll hire Northern Iowa's coach.
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Is it possible we can get Huggins back when WV fires him? Start this whole 5-year rejuvenation thing over again?
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I can see middling with the NIT/bubble stretching this out for several more years.
I mean, obviously this is what will happen. And then we'll hire Northern Iowa's coach.
We'll hire Iowa's coach when he gets fired.
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I'm not usually this guy, but it bears posting;
2nd half FTs:
Cats 6-13
La 12-14
Not THE reason, but still. Just another one of many.
Stat of the 2nd half.
That and.... Rod/Angel 5-23 fgs
Everyone else 19-34 FGs
Disappointing when the studs give u duds
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Have a home tourney game with 14k KSU fans screaming their heads off against a play-in team as a 4 seed with a 12 waiting on the other side, yeah, we'll have opportunities like that again real soon!
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Have a home tourney game with 14k KSU fans screaming their heads off against a play-in team as a 4 seed with a 12 waiting on the other side, yeah, we'll have opportunities like that again real soon!
Yeah, thus just makes it worse.
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I can't help it. I am so mad at Rod right now. So Disappointed with via effort. 55 made him look silly in the 1st half. He didn't play like I eixpected under tough conditions. 5-17 is the Rod we saw against Mich and Zags
Angel terrible too, but he isn't a Sr who is 1st team all conf
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Being mad at Rodney is stupid. no offense.
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I can't help it. I am so mad at Rod right now. So Disappointed with via effort. 55 made him look silly in the 1st half. He didn't play like I eixpected under tough conditions. 5-17 is the Rod we saw against Mich and Zags
Angel terrible too, but he isn't a Sr who is 1st team all conf
Angel took over guarding Galloway in the 2nd half and shut him down.
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Being mad at Rodney is stupid. no offense.
I say being mad at Rodney is stupid and I mean for anyone who thinks that to take offense.
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The amount of dumbass KSU'ers on twitter now talking about how Angel is horrible is enough to make me lose all hope for us ever having nice things.
Why are our fans so Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?
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I feel the worst for JO. :frown:
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This talking point about trying to call a TO at the end will be enough for the tucks to excuse oscar and deflect the prob from oscar to the refs "screwing" us.
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Somebody should send that ref an EMAW badge for at least giving us the opportunity to win that oscar tried so hard to take away.
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I guess kenpom had us ranked in the 30's for a reason....
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All of these stats are bullshit if Rodney makes that three with a minute to go :flush:
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I guess kenpom had us ranked in the 30's for a reason....
This is what we were all season. I mean we were -4, this wasn't a huge upset or anything.
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I guess kenpom had us ranked in the 30's for a reason....
and had Big12 ranked 6th best confy
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Totally agree, first half like that and you don't deserve to beat anyone. Feel it has been overlooked, but the loose passes in the first half leading to turnovers may have been what cost us the game, when normally we have been quite good at protecting the ball.
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I can't help it. I am so mad at Rod right now. So Disappointed with via effort. 55 made him look silly in the 1st half. He didn't play like I eixpected under tough conditions. 5-17 is the Rod we saw against Mich and Zags
Angel terrible too, but he isn't a Sr who is 1st team all conf
Angel took over guarding Galloway in the 2nd half and shut him down.
Yep. Rod picked a bad game to resemble the Rod vs Mich/Zags of pre Christmas.
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Our offense was not great, but not the reason we lost.
It was the terrible first half defense. Don't look past that.
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chings, how hard would it to get the game-by-game standard deviations for efficiencies and four factors over the past few years. I wonder if certain factors are more volatile game to game. (My terminology is probably a little off, but I think you know what I mean.)
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Our offense was not great, but not the reason we lost.
It was the terrible first half defense. Don't look past that.
Our D was terrible 1st half. However this team was won 16 conf games because of good offense. 45.6%eFG, 30.7% 3pt and 9-17 on FT. Those resemble Frank teams, not the 2013 Cats. LaSalle wasn't great on D either imo
Bad D and Bad O in first 20 min aside. We had a 2 pt lead with 5 min left and a great crowd in our corner cheering us on and we scored 1 point in crunch time. 1 freaking point the final 294 seconds