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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: kso_FAN on March 12, 2013, 12:19:38 PM
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kp's Big 12 log5 is out.
As is customary in this event, Kansas is a convincing favorite. The Jayhawks have won five tournaments during the previous eight years of sharing or outright winning the regular-season Big 12 title. The two through six seeds are good enough to give the Jayhawks some competition, so Kansas’ chances of winning aren’t much better than a coin flip. Because the bottom four teams are quite a bit worse than the rest of the conference, there was a nice bonus for the teams the got the top two-seeds. So even though Kansas State and Iowa State are roughly equal in skill, the Wildcats’ chances of winning the title are significantly better.
Kansas gets half of a home-court share in this analysis.
Qtrs Semis Final Champ
1 Kansas 100 93.5 73.3 54.2
3 Oklahoma St. 100 63.4 41.9 17.1
2 Kansas St. 100 75.9 33.2 10.4
5 Iowa St. 100 55.6 15.0 7.1
6 Baylor 100 36.6 19.6 5.8
4 Oklahoma 100 44.4 10.3 4.3
7 Texas 86.7 23.4 5.3 0.8
8 W. Virginia 81.1 6.1 1.4 0.3
9 Texas Tech 18.9 0.4 0.02 0.001
10 TCU 13.3 0.7 0.03 0.0009
And: :(
All-kenpom: Marcus Smart, Oklahoma State (kPOY); Jeff Withey, Kansas; Ben McLemore, Kansas; Pierre Jackson, Baylor; Romero Osby, Oklahoma.
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Man think of the odds you could get on TCU winning the whole thing.
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Could be argued that the home court could be evened btwn us and KU
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Man think of the odds you could get on TCU winning the whole thing.
Would it matter?
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Man think of the odds you could get on TCU winning the whole thing.
Would it matter?
No, not unless a higher power has some sort of a sick and twisted sense of humor
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kp was a frankite
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Man think of the odds you could get on TCU winning the whole thing.
Stranger things have happened amirite?
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So even though Kansas State and Iowa State are roughly equal in skill, the Wildcats’ chances of winning the title are significantly better.
What a rough ridin' :rolleyes: eunuch.
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:bracketmouse:
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Could be argued that the home court could be evened btwn us and KU
Actually, I think the truth of the matter is this; ISU will have the HCA vs ku in the semi's if ISU beats OU as expected.
The 'clown fans have been known to travel in droves to this thing, and I'm of the belief that there's not too many people from K-State that will really be TSC'ing it up in the Sprint Center. Therefore, ISU will have both KSU and ISU fans backing them plus my belief is that the OSU people will back Iowa State as well...
:bill:
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Could be argued that the home court could be evened btwn us and KU
Actually, I think the truth of the matter is this; ISU will have the HCA vs ku in the semi's if ISU beats OU as expected.
The 'clown fans have been known to travel in droves to this thing, and I'm of the belief that there's not too many people from K-State that will really be TSC'ing it up in the Sprint Center. Therefore, ISU will have both KSU and ISU fans backing them plus my belief is that the OSU people will back Iowa State as well...
:bill:
There is absolutely no doubt that the majority, if not all, KSU fans will be rooting for KU's opponent in each of KU's games.
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Whereas, the sqwawks will be sharing (that word again) in cheers for the Wildcats?
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Whereas, the sqwawks will be sharing (that word again) in cheers for the Wildcats?
Lol, no.
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Could be argued that the home court could be evened btwn us and KU
Actually, I think the truth of the matter is this; ISU will have the HCA vs ku in the semi's if ISU beats OU as expected.
The 'clown fans have been known to travel in droves to this thing, and I'm of the belief that there's not too many people from K-State that will really be TSC'ing it up in the Sprint Center. Therefore, ISU will have both KSU and ISU fans backing them plus my belief is that the OSU people will back Iowa State as well...
:bill:
There is absolutely no doubt that the majority, if not all, KSU fans will be rooting for KU's opponent in each of KU's games.
As will the fans of Iowa State, Oklahoma State, and other schools that got jobbed by the officiating in games vs ku.
The OSU folks we met in Stillwater TO A MAN this weekend have no fondness for your little community college whatsoever.
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Whereas, the sqwawks will be sharing (that word again) in cheers for the Wildcats?
Nope, KU fans will be cheering against KSU as well. Wouldn't really expect it either way for both fanbases. All though it would be pretty sweet to see a KU-KSU championship game.
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Could be argued that the home court could be evened btwn us and KU
Actually, I think the truth of the matter is this; ISU will have the HCA vs ku in the semi's if ISU beats OU as expected.
The 'clown fans have been known to travel in droves to this thing, and I'm of the belief that there's not too many people from K-State that will really be TSC'ing it up in the Sprint Center. Therefore, ISU will have both KSU and ISU fans backing them plus my belief is that the OSU people will back Iowa State as well...
:bill:
There is absolutely no doubt that the majority, if not all, KSU fans will be rooting for KU's opponent in each of KU's games.
As will the fans of Iowa State, Oklahoma State, and other schools that got jobbed by the officiating in games vs ku.
The OSU folks we met in Stillwater TO A MAN this weekend have no fondness for your little community college whatsoever.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Now that's funny. I wouldn't expect any other fan base to like KU in basketball. Why would they? Ku has been dominating them for a long time, makes sense to hate them. Same reason people outside of Texas don't like UT football
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Could be argued that the home court could be evened btwn us and KU
Actually, I think the truth of the matter is this; ISU will have the HCA vs ku in the semi's if ISU beats OU as expected.
The 'clown fans have been known to travel in droves to this thing, and I'm of the belief that there's not too many people from K-State that will really be TSC'ing it up in the Sprint Center. Therefore, ISU will have both KSU and ISU fans backing them plus my belief is that the OSU people will back Iowa State as well...
:bill:
There is absolutely no doubt that the majority, if not all, KSU fans will be rooting for KU's opponent in each of KU's games.
As will the fans of Iowa State, Oklahoma State, and other schools that got jobbed by the officiating in games vs ku.
The OSU folks we met in Stillwater TO A MAN this weekend have no fondness for your little community college whatsoever.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Now that's funny. I wouldn't expect any other fan base to like KU in basketball. Why would they? Ku has been dominating them for a long time, makes sense to hate them. Same reason people outside of Texas don't like UT football
that makes no sense. we own those idiots.
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Could be argued that the home court could be evened btwn us and KU
Actually, I think the truth of the matter is this; ISU will have the HCA vs ku in the semi's if ISU beats OU as expected.
The 'clown fans have been known to travel in droves to this thing, and I'm of the belief that there's not too many people from K-State that will really be TSC'ing it up in the Sprint Center. Therefore, ISU will have both KSU and ISU fans backing them plus my belief is that the OSU people will back Iowa State as well...
:bill:
There is absolutely no doubt that the majority, if not all, KSU fans will be rooting for KU's opponent in each of KU's games.
As will the fans of Iowa State, Oklahoma State, and other schools that got jobbed by the officiating in games vs ku.
The OSU folks we met in Stillwater TO A MAN this weekend have no fondness for your little community college whatsoever.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Now that's funny. I wouldn't expect any other fan base to like KU in basketball. Why would they? Ku has been dominating them for a long time, makes sense to hate them. Same reason people outside of Texas don't like UT football
No, you're wrong.
Has nothing to do with the conference title streak or 'domination'. Has to do with the preferential treatment by the officials during games and the arrogant attitude of the vast majority of the fan base, most of which couldn't find Lawrence on a map, let alone ever having stepped foot in a classroom there.
Basically, ku is disliked because they're shitty neighbors... not because of your successes.
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Could be argued that the home court could be evened btwn us and KU
Actually, I think the truth of the matter is this; ISU will have the HCA vs ku in the semi's if ISU beats OU as expected.
The 'clown fans have been known to travel in droves to this thing, and I'm of the belief that there's not too many people from K-State that will really be TSC'ing it up in the Sprint Center. Therefore, ISU will have both KSU and ISU fans backing them plus my belief is that the OSU people will back Iowa State as well...
:bill:
There is absolutely no doubt that the majority, if not all, KSU fans will be rooting for KU's opponent in each of KU's games.
As will the fans of Iowa State, Oklahoma State, and other schools that got jobbed by the officiating in games vs ku.
The OSU folks we met in Stillwater TO A MAN this weekend have no fondness for your little community college whatsoever.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Now that's funny. I wouldn't expect any other fan base to like KU in basketball. Why would they? Ku has been dominating them for a long time, makes sense to hate them. Same reason people outside of Texas don't like UT football
No, you're wrong.
Has nothing to do with the conference title streak or 'domination'. Has to do with the preferential treatment by the officials during games and the arrogant attitude of the vast majority of the fan base, most of which couldn't find Lawrence on a map, let alone ever having stepped foot in a classroom there.
Basically, ku is disliked because they're shitty neighbors... not because of your successes.
The problem with this logic is that all the reasons you set forth are due to the successes of the program. If there was not the level of success there has been, then you would not have the other issues you set forth.
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Seems about right. As for KU fans cheering against K-State, let's face it, any smart fan would much prefer to play the Cats in the finals over OSU.
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Especially since they would be playing a jump-shooting teamplaying for the 3rd straight day.
Seems about right. As for KU fans cheering against K-State, let's face it, any smart fan would much prefer to play the Cats in the finals over OSU.
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Could be argued that the home court could be evened btwn us and KU
Actually, I think the truth of the matter is this; ISU will have the HCA vs ku in the semi's if ISU beats OU as expected.
The 'clown fans have been known to travel in droves to this thing, and I'm of the belief that there's not too many people from K-State that will really be TSC'ing it up in the Sprint Center. Therefore, ISU will have both KSU and ISU fans backing them plus my belief is that the OSU people will back Iowa State as well...
:bill:
There is absolutely no doubt that the majority, if not all, KSU fans will be rooting for KU's opponent in each of KU's games.
As will the fans of Iowa State, Oklahoma State, and other schools that got jobbed by the officiating in games vs ku.
The OSU folks we met in Stillwater TO A MAN this weekend have no fondness for your little community college whatsoever.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Now that's funny. I wouldn't expect any other fan base to like KU in basketball. Why would they? Ku has been dominating them for a long time, makes sense to hate them. Same reason people outside of Texas don't like UT football
No, you're wrong.
Has nothing to do with the conference title streak or 'domination'. Has to do with the preferential treatment by the officials during games and the arrogant attitude of the vast majority of the fan base, most of which couldn't find Lawrence on a map, let alone ever having stepped foot in a classroom there.
Basically, ku is disliked because they're shitty neighbors... not because of your successes.
The problem with this logic is that all the reasons you set forth are due to the successes of the program. If there was not the level of success there has been, then you would not have the other issues you set forth.
Great. We agree that ku has a shitty fanbase then, and the rest of the league dislikes your program enough to cheer against them because of it rather than just watching in neutrality as is the case at most tourney games.
:thumbsup:
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Could be argued that the home court could be evened btwn us and KU
Actually, I think the truth of the matter is this; ISU will have the HCA vs ku in the semi's if ISU beats OU as expected.
The 'clown fans have been known to travel in droves to this thing, and I'm of the belief that there's not too many people from K-State that will really be TSC'ing it up in the Sprint Center. Therefore, ISU will have both KSU and ISU fans backing them plus my belief is that the OSU people will back Iowa State as well...
:bill:
There is absolutely no doubt that the majority, if not all, KSU fans will be rooting for KU's opponent in each of KU's games.
As will the fans of Iowa State, Oklahoma State, and other schools that got jobbed by the officiating in games vs ku.
The OSU folks we met in Stillwater TO A MAN this weekend have no fondness for your little community college whatsoever.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Now that's funny. I wouldn't expect any other fan base to like KU in basketball. Why would they? Ku has been dominating them for a long time, makes sense to hate them. Same reason people outside of Texas don't like UT football
No, you're wrong.
Has nothing to do with the conference title streak or 'domination'. Has to do with the preferential treatment by the officials during games and the arrogant attitude of the vast majority of the fan base, most of which couldn't find Lawrence on a map, let alone ever having stepped foot in a classroom there.
Basically, ku is disliked because they're shitty neighbors... not because of your successes.
The problem with this logic is that all the reasons you set forth are due to the successes of the program. If there was not the level of success there has been, then you would not have the other issues you set forth.
Great. We agree that ku has a shitty fanbase then, and the rest of the league dislikes your program enough to cheer against them because of it rather than just watching in neutrality as is the case at most tourney games.
:thumbsup:
When you are at the top of the mountain, everyone wants to see you fall off.
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K-State is straddling the tops of two mountains. Just call us The Gondola.
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3 Oklahoma St. 100 63.4 41.9 17.1
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17.1% probability for Okie State vs. 10.4% for 'Cats? I guess that Pistol Pete mascot is effective, or that 6 point loss is Stillwater zings more than anyone would have thought.
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Someone moved the decimal. It should read 104%.
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Would be real fun to win this. Makes me sad OSU has a higher percentage than we do.
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Would be real fun to win this. Makes me sad OSU has a higher percentage than we do.
Sure it'd be fun, but keep in mind the P66 is like the hobby within the hobby. So really there's no downside possible.
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Its kenpom and his numbers hate us this year. Cats are #34, Pokes, #16.
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The P66 is like the fun yet functionless decals on a model airplane. You've already fulfilled your hobby itch, now you're just dabbling in it a little longer.