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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: kso_FAN on March 04, 2013, 10:13:38 AM
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With Selection Sunday less than 2 weeks away, I put together this chart of 26 teams likely to be at least 7 seeds according to various bracketologists out there (right now). Choosing 26 was simply based on letters in the alphabet. Teams in bold are currently leading their conference. kp = kenpom. Everything else should be self explanatory.
Your task is to give your 1 though 4 seeds including your overall #1.
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How we would do it or how the committee would?
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How we would do it or how the committee would?
How the committee would makes more sense (granted, you have limited information), but however you want is fine too.
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This is fun. Is there a way you could post a downloadable spread sheet of your table?
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highlight which one is KSU so I can rank them #1
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#1 overall is so mumped its hard to put into text. I would say the zags at this point, they win and dont get caught in the traps. duke is close but they are so up and down its hard to even put them as a 1 sometimes
if i was seeding it would be
1-gonzaga
2-duke
3-michigan
4-kansas
2-1-indiana
2-2-miami
2-3-georgetown
2-4-kansas state
3-1 -louisville
3-2-florida
3-3 -mich st
3-4- new mexico
4-1 oklahoma state
4-2- syracuse
4-3-marquette
4-4-ohio state
* I changed this 15 times and whats great about this year is I could see all 15 times being close
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#1 seeds:
D, I, A, G
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Any chance you can drop into google docs?
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well that's crazy, i blindly selected Kansas, New Mexico, Georgetown, & Miami as 1 seeds.
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fwiw i cant select anything i just wasted 15 minutes of my workday typing up my own
l8ter sk8ters
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I judge a lot on 1-50 record and anything outside of that is a bad loss
My top 3s -
Overal #1 is B.
1: HCBE
2: ADJG
3: LFIK
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https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6ToHbNqo-8bNHNNWjFicWw0ZWc/edit?usp=sharing
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#1 should be duke w/ ryan kelly - best team in the country
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#1 should be duke w/ ryan kelly - best team in the country
Undefeated when he plays.
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It's funny since only one team has a loss to a 200+ team.
#1 overall - H (not even sure it's close)
other 3 - I, C, B
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Why does kenpom hate the Cats so much? 31? I mean wtf?
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I didn't look at the key yet.
1: H (overall), B, C, I
2: A, D, K, G
3: E, F, J, L
4: N, P, S, M
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Here is the key: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6ToHbNqo-8bOThlTUdXNWlzWFE/edit?usp=sharing
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I would have had oklahoma state above some of the 7 loss teams, I didn't look that far down the list.
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I didn't look at the key yet.
1: Duke (overall), Indiana, Gonzaga, New Mexico
2: Georgetown, KU, Michigan, Miami
3: Louisville, Michigan State, Florida, KSU
4: Okie State (replaced wisconsin when I realized okie state was so low on fan's list), Marquette, Arizona, Syracuse
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I didn't look at the key yet.
1: Duke (overall), Indiana, Gonzaga, New Mexico
2: Georgetown, KU, Michigan, Miami
3: Louisville, Michigan State, Florida, KSU
4: Okie State (replaced wisconsin when I realized okie state was so low on fan's list), Marquette, Arizona, Syracuse
:runaway:
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#1 overall - H (not even sure it's close)
other 3 - I, C, B
1: H (overall), B, C, I
:D
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#1 seed- T
Everyone else shouldn't bother to show up for the tourney.
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1 line
KU - overall #1
Duke
New Mexico :dubious:
Georgetown
2
Michigan
Gonzaga
Indiana :horrorsurprise:
Louisville
3
Miami
Syracuse
Florida
Marquette
4
Kansas State :frown:
Butler
Michigan State
Arizona
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1- H*, B, I, J
2- G, C, D, S
3- E, A, L, K
4- R, Y, T, W
* indicates first overall seed.
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1* - D
1 - H
1 - I
1 - K
2 - A
2 - B
2 - G
2 - P
3 - C
3 - F
3 - E
3 - R
4 - Z
4 - J
4 - S
4 - L
This is how I would do it, not necessarily how the committee would.
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Nuts kicked hates the wild wildcats
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1* - D
1 - H
1 - I
1 - K
2 - A
2 - B
2 - G
2 - P
3 - C
3 - F
3 - E
3 - R
4 - Z
4 - J
4 - S
4 - L
This is how I would do it, not necessarily how the committee would.
Squawk outed
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I honestly had no idea which team was us until I looked it up. Still, a 4 seed is where we belong right now. We haven't beaten enough good teams to be higher. Maybe after the Big 12 tournament, we could slide up.
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I honestly had no idea which team was us until I looked it up. Still, a 4 seed is where we belong right now. We haven't beaten enough good teams to be higher. Maybe after the Big 12 tournament, we could slide up.
Pro tip: We're 9-1 in our last 10.
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I honestly had no idea which team was us until I looked it up. Still, a 4 seed is where we belong right now. We haven't beaten enough good teams to be higher. Maybe after the Big 12 tournament, we could slide up.
Pro tip: We're 9-1 in our last 10.
Yeah, well, that is a completely meaningless stat to me and I gave it absolutely zero credit when seeding teams.
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The compiled gE list so far:
1-Duke, Indiana, Kansas, Zaga
2-Georgetown, New Mexico, Miami, Michigan
3-Louisville, Florida, Michigan State, Kansas State
4-Marquette, St Louis, Syracuse, Arizona
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I honestly had no idea which team was us until I looked it up. Still, a 4 seed is where we belong right now. We haven't beaten enough good teams to be higher. Maybe after the Big 12 tournament, we could slide up.
Pro tip: We're 9-1 in our last 10.
Yeah, well, that is a completely meaningless stat to me and I gave it absolutely zero credit when seeding teams.
Think you're missing the point here, but that's ok. I appreciate your honesty and hope the committee likes the cats more than you do.
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I honestly had no idea which team was us until I looked it up. Still, a 4 seed is where we belong right now. We haven't beaten enough good teams to be higher. Maybe after the Big 12 tournament, we could slide up.
Pro tip: We're 9-1 in our last 10.
Yeah, well, that is a completely meaningless stat to me and I gave it absolutely zero credit when seeding teams.
Think you're missing the point here, but that's ok. I appreciate your honesty and hope the committee likes the cats more than you do.
I would have us as a 3 seed with a win in Stillwater, fwiw. I'd probably drop us to a 5 with a loss.
I also acknowledged that my rankings were not what I thought the committee would do, only what they should do.
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I honestly had no idea which team was us until I looked it up. Still, a 4 seed is where we belong right now. We haven't beaten enough good teams to be higher. Maybe after the Big 12 tournament, we could slide up.
Pro tip: We're 9-1 in our last 10.
Yeah, well, that is a completely meaningless stat to me and I gave it absolutely zero credit when seeding teams.
Think you're missing the point here, but that's ok. I appreciate your honesty and hope the committee likes the cats more than you do.
I would have us as a 3 seed with a win in Stillwater, fwiw. I'd probably drop us to a 5 with a loss.
I also acknowledged that my rankings were not what I thought the committee would do, only what they should do.
Fair enough, friend :cheers:
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The compiled gE list so far:
1-Duke, Indiana, Kansas, Zaga
2-Georgetown, New Mexico, Miami, Michigan
3-Louisville, Florida, Michigan State, Kansas State
4-Marquette, St Louis, Syracuse, Arizona
is the above an S curve?
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Blind seeding is always kind of a fun thing to try out. Its tough when you got 26 teams you are looking at
For me, Its hard to seed teams just off a blind resume because, take Indiana and N Mexico for example. Indiana has 7 top 50 wins. NM has 8.
But when you look at who Indiana beat. I put my current seed projection in ( ). They beat Mich (2) Gtown (2), Mich St twice (3) Ohio St (4)
UNC (7) and Minn (10). Then u look at who NM beat. Unlv (5) Col St twice (8), SD St (9) Cincy (10), Boise St twice (12) and UConn (Not eligible). Clearly Indiana's wins are better than NM.
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Blind seeding is always kind of a fun thing to try out. Its tough when you got 26 teams you are looking at
For me, Its hard to seed teams just off a blind resume because, take Indiana and N Mexico for example. Indiana has 7 top 50 wins. NM has 8.
But when you look at who Indiana beat. I put my current seed projection in ( ). They beat Mich (2) Gtown (2), Mich St twice (3) Ohio St (4)
UNC (7) and Minn (10). Then u look at who NM beat. Unlv (5) Col St twice (8), SD St (9) Cincy (10), Boise St twice (12) and UConn (Not eligible). Clearly Indiana's wins are better than NM.
That's a really good point, but I think it will most likely work itself out after the conference tournaments. Looking at blind resumes is the absolute best way to seed a tournament if you are trying to get the most deserving teams the best seeds. It's not quite as good if you are trying to give the best seeds to the best teams.