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Title: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: meow meow on February 20, 2013, 09:32:31 PM
Most overrated recruit in history, woof.  Good call oscar, we knew how bad he wanted to come here too.
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: HELLHAMMER on February 20, 2013, 09:43:27 PM
The Flapcramps kid from Wichita will be the same way.
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: MakeItRain on February 20, 2013, 10:06:45 PM
The Flapcramps kid from Wichita will be the same way.

Unfortunately he won't. He has the very real potential to be the most hated KU player of all timd.
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 20, 2013, 10:07:40 PM
oscar knows adorable, and perry ain't adorable.
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 20, 2013, 10:13:43 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.lv3.hbo.com%2Fassets%2Fimages%2Fseries%2Feastbound-and-down%2Fepisodes%2F2%2F11%2Feastbound-chapter-11-1024.jpg&hash=f02c9bf9d476f1722bd8c183a8ba8fb92d1b8186)

Perry?
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: joda on February 20, 2013, 10:58:08 PM
The Flapcramps kid from Wichita will be the same way.

Unfortunately he won't. He has the very real potential to be the most hated KU player of all timd.

I've only seen him once, so I don't really have great insight, but I didn't see anything that made me think he'd be any better or worse than Reed and Morningstar.
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 20, 2013, 11:01:31 PM
Tharpe and Francamp are gonna make for one sorry ass backcourt. 
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: MakeItRain on February 20, 2013, 11:05:17 PM
The Flapcramps kid from Wichita will be the same way.

Unfortunately he won't. He has the very real potential to be the most hated KU player of all timd.

I've only seen him once, so I don't really have great insight, but I didn't see anything that made me think he'd be any better or worse than Reed and Morningstar.

Right. By no means would that make him a flop. He will be a bigger ass than either of those guys though. Think Jason Sutherland.
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: sys on February 20, 2013, 11:18:43 PM
I didn't see anything that made me think he'd be any better or worse than Reed and Morningstar.

he's better.
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: Skipper44 on February 20, 2013, 11:22:23 PM
Sutherland was a pretty good athlete (state champ high jumper iirc)  is Francamp more dynamic than Forte for example?
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: sys on February 20, 2013, 11:26:58 PM
is Francamp more dynamic than Forte for example?

good lord, ban yourself from recruiting discussions.
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: Skipper44 on February 20, 2013, 11:31:30 PM
is Francamp more dynamic than Forte for example?

good lord, ban yourself from recruiting discussions.
hmmm, just wanted to get a little additional info to Trim's scouting report
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: MakeItRain on February 20, 2013, 11:32:58 PM
Sutherland was a pretty good athlete (state champ high jumper iirc)  is Francamp more dynamic than Forte for example?

Waaaaayyyy more so. No comparison. BTW the Sutherland comparo was re. attitude not playing style. Conor is a good shooter with the ability to put it on the deck but not necessarily going to the basket, shoots on the move not spotting up. I would say like a smaller Rodney.
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 20, 2013, 11:50:24 PM
He got to put a lot of size on, but can shoot the piss out of the ball. If he doesn't put size on he won't be able to stay healthy in big 12 play.
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: MakeItRain on February 20, 2013, 11:55:40 PM
He got to put a lot of size on, but can shoot the piss out of the ball. If he doesn't put size on he won't be able to stay healthy in big 12 play.

Man that isn't true, he's going to be a shooting guard not a four. There's plenty of high major players just as skinny if not more so.
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: Skipper44 on February 21, 2013, 12:02:32 AM
will he be able to defend to Self's liking?
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: gatoveintisiete on February 21, 2013, 12:04:56 AM
he is heslip
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: Skipper44 on February 21, 2013, 12:08:07 AM
Heslip has decent size and cannot dribble - a very fine example of a drive way shooter.  I don't think Bill would give a scholarship to a guy like Heslip
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: gatoveintisiete on February 21, 2013, 12:09:36 AM
he doesn't turn Ben loose, why would he turn Heslip loose
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: Skipper44 on February 21, 2013, 12:12:35 AM
he doesn't turn Ben loose, why would he turn Heslip loose
yeah, Bmac plays some games on O like the Ferrari of drive way shooters.  I think that is on him, not Bill
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: MakeItRain on February 21, 2013, 11:37:14 AM
he is heslip

JFC, not even close. Its obvious that you haven't seen him play or don't know anything about basketball. What a horrible comparison. I don't think Heslip has dribbled a basketball since middle school. He's closer to Shaq than he is Heslip.

he doesn't turn Ben loose, why would he turn Heslip loose

What does this even mean? Never mind, don't bother answering.
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: AppleJack on February 21, 2013, 11:45:05 AM
wes welker
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 21, 2013, 12:13:03 PM
Saw Clayton Custer practicing at Fieldhouse yesterday.  He is tiny
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: PoetWarrior on February 21, 2013, 12:20:35 PM
Frankamp is a basketball machine. Has been since he could stand.

He knows nothing else.

Not my type of player.
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: KSUblumpkin on February 21, 2013, 12:30:05 PM
Saw Clayton Custer practicing at Fieldhouse yesterday.  He is tiny

I saw Custer play in Des Moines a few months back.  I wasn't impressed.
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: joda on February 21, 2013, 12:58:20 PM
The Flapcramps kid from Wichita will be the same way.

Unfortunately he won't. He has the very real potential to be the most hated KU player of all timd.

I've only seen him once, so I don't really have great insight, but I didn't see anything that made me think he'd be any better or worse than Reed and Morningstar.

Right. By no means would that make him a flop. He will be a bigger ass than either of those guys though. Think Jason Sutherland.

I definitely wasn't saying this as him being a flop, especially based on most of the reasonable expectations for him. However, if you listen to some KU fans here in Wichita you'd think he's a NBA lottery pick right now.

I do think his overall career will be better than either of the 2 simply because he's probably going to get alot of playing time right from the start.
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: cork_sniffer on February 21, 2013, 01:08:15 PM
He got to put a lot of size on, but can shoot the piss out of the ball. If he doesn't put size on he won't be able to stay healthy in big 12 play.

Man that isn't true, he's going to be a shooting guard not a four. There's plenty of high major players just as skinny if not more so.

he plays SG now and did for the u17 team but he is most likely a PG at the college level with limited minutes at the SG position perhaps. 

kid is far better than reed or morningstar at this point.  really good athlete, deadly shooter off the bounce and on the catch, good passer and can get into the lane against good competition.  talks a ton of trash, I agree he'll probably be the most hated ku player ever.   
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 21, 2013, 01:09:45 PM
He got to put a lot of size on, but can shoot the piss out of the ball. If he doesn't put size on he won't be able to stay healthy in big 12 play.

Man that isn't true, he's going to be a shooting guard not a four. There's plenty of high major players just as skinny if not more so.

he plays SG now and did for the u17 team but he is most likely a PG at the college level with limited minutes at the SG position perhaps. 

kid is far better than reed or morningstar at this point.  really good athlete, deadly shooter off the bounce and on the catch, good passer and can get into the lane against good competition.  talks a ton of trash, I agree he'll probably be the most hated ku player ever.   

By KU fans (like Tyshawn) or by opponents' fans?
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: Johnny Wichita on February 21, 2013, 01:14:20 PM
Frankamp is a huge piece of crap.  He also sucked balls when we played him at the Y.  I would have picked him fifth or sixth out of the guys playing at the time, all of who were not very good, with the exception of the one or two StrutNCutters that were playing. 
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: cork_sniffer on February 21, 2013, 01:17:28 PM
He got to put a lot of size on, but can shoot the piss out of the ball. If he doesn't put size on he won't be able to stay healthy in big 12 play.

Man that isn't true, he's going to be a shooting guard not a four. There's plenty of high major players just as skinny if not more so.

he plays SG now and did for the u17 team but he is most likely a PG at the college level with limited minutes at the SG position perhaps. 

kid is far better than reed or morningstar at this point.  really good athlete, deadly shooter off the bounce and on the catch, good passer and can get into the lane against good competition.  talks a ton of trash, I agree he'll probably be the most hated ku player ever.   

By KU fans (like Tyshawn) or by opponents' fans?

opponents fans, ku fans love white boys unconditionally (see reed and morningstar)

in the u17 title game he was talking trash almost non stop with the australian team and backing it up with 3's, some way behind nba range...then continuing to jaw all the way back down the court.  kid is really going to piss people off. 
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: gatoveintisiete on February 21, 2013, 01:18:37 PM
I realize heslip is a good player, but he will just be one of many at ku and thus not really a standout.  I do think I hate him already though.
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: GCJayhawker on February 21, 2013, 01:21:09 PM
Speaking of white guys people hate, I can't stand Forte.  That guy is going to be a thorn in my side for three more years.  Why does OSU always have a small white guy that can shoot threes?
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: MakeItRain on February 21, 2013, 01:25:54 PM
He got to put a lot of size on, but can shoot the piss out of the ball. If he doesn't put size on he won't be able to stay healthy in big 12 play.

Man that isn't true, he's going to be a shooting guard not a four. There's plenty of high major players just as skinny if not more so.

he plays SG now and did for the u17 team but he is most likely a PG at the college level with limited minutes at the SG position perhaps. 

kid is far better than reed or morningstar at this point.  really good athlete, deadly shooter off the bounce and on the catch, good passer and can get into the lane against good competition.  talks a ton of trash, I agree he'll probably be the most hated ku player ever.   

you already have a point guard, he'll play the two
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: g2brg on February 21, 2013, 01:34:28 PM
    Flapcramp = Jackie Stiles ????????????????????

                    :dunno:
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: MakeItRain on February 21, 2013, 01:40:02 PM
    Flapcramp = Jackie Stiles ????????????????????

                    :dunno:

We better rough ridin' hope not, she was one of the best female college players of all time. Also she's had a lot of plastic surgery and is now a fitness model. Weird.
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: cork_sniffer on February 21, 2013, 01:46:10 PM
He got to put a lot of size on, but can shoot the piss out of the ball. If he doesn't put size on he won't be able to stay healthy in big 12 play.

Man that isn't true, he's going to be a shooting guard not a four. There's plenty of high major players just as skinny if not more so.

he plays SG now and did for the u17 team but he is most likely a PG at the college level with limited minutes at the SG position perhaps. 

kid is far better than reed or morningstar at this point.  really good athlete, deadly shooter off the bounce and on the catch, good passer and can get into the lane against good competition.  talks a ton of trash, I agree he'll probably be the most hated ku player ever.   

you already have a point guard, he'll play the two

maybe, the only way frankamp plays a lot of 2 is if self puts Selden at the point offensively and uses frankamp on the ball defensively IMO.   I think ideally though you'd see frankamp as a combo who by his junior year is the starting PG.  KU is loaded with SG's and SF's (Selden, Greene, White, Adams) unless they get some transfers. 

 


Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: MakeItRain on February 21, 2013, 01:56:09 PM
He got to put a lot of size on, but can shoot the piss out of the ball. If he doesn't put size on he won't be able to stay healthy in big 12 play.

Man that isn't true, he's going to be a shooting guard not a four. There's plenty of high major players just as skinny if not more so.

he plays SG now and did for the u17 team but he is most likely a PG at the college level with limited minutes at the SG position perhaps. 

kid is far better than reed or morningstar at this point.  really good athlete, deadly shooter off the bounce and on the catch, good passer and can get into the lane against good competition.  talks a ton of trash, I agree he'll probably be the most hated ku player ever.   

you already have a point guard, he'll play the two

maybe, the only way frankamp plays a lot of 2 is if self puts Selden at the point offensively and uses frankamp on the ball defensively IMO.   I think ideally though you'd see frankamp as a combo who by his junior year is the starting PG.  KU is loaded with SG's and SF's (Selden, Greene, White, Adams) unless they get some transfers.

You saw those Rio tweets and you think he's staying? He's pissed about Elijah playing, he's really going to be pissed about the freshmen getting his tic.
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: OregonSmock on February 21, 2013, 02:00:11 PM
He got to put a lot of size on, but can shoot the piss out of the ball. If he doesn't put size on he won't be able to stay healthy in big 12 play.

Man that isn't true, he's going to be a shooting guard not a four. There's plenty of high major players just as skinny if not more so.

he plays SG now and did for the u17 team but he is most likely a PG at the college level with limited minutes at the SG position perhaps. 

kid is far better than reed or morningstar at this point.  really good athlete, deadly shooter off the bounce and on the catch, good passer and can get into the lane against good competition.  talks a ton of trash, I agree he'll probably be the most hated ku player ever.   

you already have a point guard, he'll play the two

maybe, the only way frankamp plays a lot of 2 is if self puts Selden at the point offensively and uses frankamp on the ball defensively IMO.   I think ideally though you'd see frankamp as a combo who by his junior year is the starting PG.  KU is loaded with SG's and SF's (Selden, Greene, White, Adams) unless they get some transfers.

You saw those Rio tweets and you think he's staying? He's pissed about Elijah playing, he's really going to be pissed about the freshmen getting his tic.


Those tweets are nothing compared to what Self had to deal with with Tyshawn. 
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: cork_sniffer on February 21, 2013, 02:14:32 PM
He got to put a lot of size on, but can shoot the piss out of the ball. If he doesn't put size on he won't be able to stay healthy in big 12 play.

Man that isn't true, he's going to be a shooting guard not a four. There's plenty of high major players just as skinny if not more so.

he plays SG now and did for the u17 team but he is most likely a PG at the college level with limited minutes at the SG position perhaps. 

kid is far better than reed or morningstar at this point.  really good athlete, deadly shooter off the bounce and on the catch, good passer and can get into the lane against good competition.  talks a ton of trash, I agree he'll probably be the most hated ku player ever.   

you already have a point guard, he'll play the two

maybe, the only way frankamp plays a lot of 2 is if self puts Selden at the point offensively and uses frankamp on the ball defensively IMO.   I think ideally though you'd see frankamp as a combo who by his junior year is the starting PG.  KU is loaded with SG's and SF's (Selden, Greene, White, Adams) unless they get some transfers.

You saw those Rio tweets and you think he's staying? He's pissed about Elijah playing, he's really going to be pissed about the freshmen getting his tic.

yeah, I don't think he's leaving.  He's just typical of a freshmen SG/SF who self forces into the PG position and rides them 24/7.   He could leave but that would be a shame, kid has physical gifts that very few players in the country possess.  he'll be a solid to really good player for whomever he plays for. 
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: bubbles4ksu on February 21, 2013, 02:16:57 PM
has there ever been a non-white driveway shooter?
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: PowercatPat on February 21, 2013, 02:32:36 PM
Saw Clayton Custer practicing at Fieldhouse yesterday.  He is tiny

Can confirm.
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: Skipper44 on February 21, 2013, 03:43:51 PM
has there ever been a non-white driveway shooter?
I think of Will Scott, ksu 2 guard that played with Richmond.
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: MakeItRain on February 21, 2013, 04:30:11 PM
He got to put a lot of size on, but can shoot the piss out of the ball. If he doesn't put size on he won't be able to stay healthy in big 12 play.

Man that isn't true, he's going to be a shooting guard not a four. There's plenty of high major players just as skinny if not more so.

he plays SG now and did for the u17 team but he is most likely a PG at the college level with limited minutes at the SG position perhaps. 

kid is far better than reed or morningstar at this point.  really good athlete, deadly shooter off the bounce and on the catch, good passer and can get into the lane against good competition.  talks a ton of trash, I agree he'll probably be the most hated ku player ever.   

you already have a point guard, he'll play the two

maybe, the only way frankamp plays a lot of 2 is if self puts Selden at the point offensively and uses frankamp on the ball defensively IMO.   I think ideally though you'd see frankamp as a combo who by his junior year is the starting PG.  KU is loaded with SG's and SF's (Selden, Greene, White, Adams) unless they get some transfers.

You saw those Rio tweets and you think he's staying? He's pissed about Elijah playing, he's really going to be pissed about the freshmen getting his tic.


Those tweets are nothing compared to what Self had to deal with with Tyshawn.

Tyshawn wasn't pissed about playing time and Self supposedly playing favorites. You guys will have good young depth at the guards. He won't make a significant mark at KU. Hopefully he's smart enough to realize this and he leaves to someplace where he will play. KU won't miss him.
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 21, 2013, 04:35:16 PM
I think the smart money is on Ellis being a pretty good player by the time he leaves KU.
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 21, 2013, 04:57:57 PM
LOL @ a 5'11" 160lb sg in the big xii.  Also, LoL at his jock being stuck inside of MIRs nose.
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: SleepFighter on February 21, 2013, 05:16:37 PM
LOL @ a 5'11" 160lb sg in the big xii.  Also, LoL at his jock being stuck inside of MIRs nose.

AJ Abrams says hi.
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 21, 2013, 05:24:06 PM
LOL @ a 5'11" 160lb sg in the big xii.  Also, LoL at his jock being stuck inside of MIRs nose.

AJ Abrams says hi.

 :ohno:  <--- sarcasm
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: massofcatfan on February 21, 2013, 05:45:51 PM
    Flapcramp = Jackie Stiles ????????????????????

                    :dunno:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjstilesonline.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F09%2FStiles-006.jpg&hash=5533677b2fbe261f5532ac35720c1db65d50073e)
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: Boondock Poonhound on February 21, 2013, 06:30:58 PM
    Flapcramp = Jackie Stiles ????????????????????

                    :dunno:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjstilesonline.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F09%2FStiles-006.jpg&hash=5533677b2fbe261f5532ac35720c1db65d50073e)

holy eff.
I don't remember her being that.... uh....attractive.
nice tight athletic tiddys.
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: SleepFighter on February 22, 2013, 09:59:08 AM
LOL @ a 5'11" 160lb sg in the big xii.  Also, LoL at his jock being stuck inside of MIRs nose.

AJ Abrams says hi.

 :ohno:  <--- sarcasm
:dubious:
Title: Re: Thank goodness oscar backed off on recruiting Perry Ellis
Post by: deputy dawg on February 22, 2013, 10:43:01 AM
oscar knows adorable, and perry ain't adorable.

ku specializes in recruiting players with widow's peaks and receding hairlines:

Releford
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Ellis:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fworldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2012%2F10%2F11%2FKU_bkc_ellis_mly_t960.jpg%3Fb8ea04f16efcb7dc07c41fa674167d6870b19a92&hash=806c50f2b750ec21dbee0a901090d104f342ba87)

Opposite of adorable.