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Title: Do we suck?
Post by: chum1 on February 11, 2013, 11:16:57 PM
Cut the crap.  This team might suck.  Deal with it.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: kougar24 on February 11, 2013, 11:17:29 PM
No. :dunno:
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: chum1 on February 11, 2013, 11:20:22 PM
Emoticons are a mask.  Cut the crap.  Stop hiding behind a mask.  This team might suck.  Now, deal with it.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: wetwillie on February 11, 2013, 11:20:59 PM
Do not suck.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: sys on February 11, 2013, 11:21:44 PM
Emoticons are a mask.  Cut the crap.  Stop hiding behind a mask.  This team might suck.  Now, deal with it.

done.  cut, stopped and dealt with.  thanks, chums.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: chum1 on February 11, 2013, 11:23:46 PM
Do we suck?
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: kougar24 on February 11, 2013, 11:27:53 PM
No? :ohno:
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: sys on February 11, 2013, 11:29:42 PM
Do we suck?

i don't want to have dealt with it for nothing, chum.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: EMAWmeister on February 11, 2013, 11:34:36 PM
I don't think we're a very good shooting team, and that sucks when your bigs are in foul trouble.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: BWebbs0 on February 11, 2013, 11:37:10 PM
I don't even know what to think anymore. Felt pretty good going into the game but unfortunately we do what we do best and all hope was gone before the half.  :cry:
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: sys on February 11, 2013, 11:37:37 PM
I don't think we're a very good shooting team.

what about our conference efg%?
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: bigwillie20 on February 11, 2013, 11:40:14 PM
Ku played pretty good tonight guys, Angel will have 10+ points 10+ assists Saturday and we win by 10+

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Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: purplepower419 on February 11, 2013, 11:47:30 PM
 :bill: We did not play our best. KU played okay :bill: but they still have a long way to go before this thing is over.  :bill:
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on February 11, 2013, 11:59:02 PM
We just re-learned what we already knew from earlier this season: We will get railed against teams with superior talent and motivation. We should still be able to beat teams of lesser talent which is about 80% of all teams and we will win about half the games against similarly talented and motivated teams ie. Baylor, OSU, ISU.  If we get a 3-4 seed and a gimme bracket we could make the elite eight.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 12, 2013, 01:15:41 AM
No, we don't suck. We just suck against KU. Its almost as if there's - gasp - something more at work here than just a talent gap. Maybe something mental. Come in the higher ranked team, choke, and get rolled.

Didn't we lose to KU three times the season we went to the Elite 8? It's an embarrassing reality how the domination is self perpetuating, but I don't see much to be done.

Really funny thing is that I bet KU loses two more conference games. They don't have any more guaranteed wins against us, for starters.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: Super PurpleCat on February 12, 2013, 01:16:43 AM
We're terribly average and we piss down our legs against KU every time.  Makes it really hard to even give a crap sometimes.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: EMAWzified on February 12, 2013, 01:33:07 AM
 :jerk:
no really :jerk:
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: chum1 on February 12, 2013, 06:57:30 AM
Everyone, calm down.  Time to face the facts.  Do we suck?
Title: Do we suck?
Post by: steve dave on February 12, 2013, 07:00:06 AM
I think we may be kinda good but not very good. like a 7 out of 10.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: kso_FAN on February 12, 2013, 07:01:18 AM
This is a good K-State team.

Last night was very disappointing, but I put no stock into that game having any impact on the rest of the season. Going to Allen Field House and letting KU run an offensive clinic is pretty much what we do.

Go 2-0 next Saturday/Monday and we're all feeling fine again. And we will.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: Stupid Fitz on February 12, 2013, 07:04:55 AM
Not great, but no suck. Huge pussies though.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 12, 2013, 07:07:01 AM
no.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: kso_FAN on February 12, 2013, 07:11:39 AM
I don't think we're a very good shooting team.

what about our conference efg%?

Yeah, I'm really not sure where this comes from.

The whole "KU is in our heads and makes us look ridiculous and soft every year in Lawrence" thing aside, K-State is still one of the best shooting teams in the league. 38.9% on 3s (1st Big 12) and 48.2% on 2s (2nd in the Big 12) in 11 games is significant. Plus best in the league at not turning over the ball.

The thing that has to be better is defense. We're giving up over 1.0 PPP and allowing teams to shoot nearly 50%. Those are problems.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: Ilovedgrowltowels... on February 12, 2013, 07:20:39 AM
If a team tied for 1st in the big xii sucks, then yeah we suck but by that logic KU sucks too.  Lets enjoy the times and the fact that if we get on a roll and become the  :chainsaw:we ran into last night we can be the best team that sucks in the conference!  If we let this game get into our heads than  :ohno:
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: catzacker on February 12, 2013, 07:21:09 AM
Any anger towards this game or this team is 3 weeks late.  KU played bad (relatively speaking) in Bramlage and we still let them win.  Losing in Lawrence? meh. 

This team has, at least as we stand now, avoided a bad loss.  IMO, it's a good team.  Not great, not a very good team, just a good team.  We still probably have atleast 2 more losses coming.  We were never going to win the conference.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: pissclams on February 12, 2013, 07:41:29 AM
I don't think we're a very good shooting team.

what about our conference efg%?

Yeah, I'm really not sure where this comes from.

The whole "KU is in our heads and makes us look ridiculous and soft every year in Lawrence" thing aside, K-State is still one of the best shooting teams in the league. 38.9% on 3s (1st Big 12) and 48.2% on 2s (2nd in the Big 12) in 11 games is significant. Plus best in the league at not turning over the ball.

The thing that has to be better is defense. We're giving up over 1.0 PPP and allowing teams to shoot nearly 50%. Those are problems.

when i read posts like this, it just confirms the idea that everything about oscar's system is a cancer. 
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on February 12, 2013, 07:44:59 AM
We are a pretty darn good team.  We might win the conference.  I'll deal with that, thank you very much.

 :grrr:
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: kso_FAN on February 12, 2013, 07:45:16 AM
I don't think we're a very good shooting team.

what about our conference efg%?

Yeah, I'm really not sure where this comes from.

The whole "KU is in our heads and makes us look ridiculous and soft every year in Lawrence" thing aside, K-State is still one of the best shooting teams in the league. 38.9% on 3s (1st Big 12) and 48.2% on 2s (2nd in the Big 12) in 11 games is significant. Plus best in the league at not turning over the ball.

The thing that has to be better is defense. We're giving up over 1.0 PPP and allowing teams to shoot nearly 50%. Those are problems.

when i read posts like this, it just confirms the idea that everything about oscar's system is a cancer. 

True, I'm pretty sure having one of the bests offenses in the league will hurt us in the long run. Just like Prince owning Texas.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: chum1 on February 12, 2013, 07:51:47 AM
Cancer sucks.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: puniraptor on February 12, 2013, 07:53:37 AM
I am soothed by the hilarious possibility of winning the conference despite getting swept by KU.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: steve dave on February 12, 2013, 08:02:05 AM
I am soothed by the hilarious possibility of winning the conference despite getting swept by KU.

we aren't winning the conference fwiw. 0% chance.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: CHONGS on February 12, 2013, 08:05:31 AM
Yes, a good team, but we have played 6 games against sweet 16ish type teams (for now counting OSU in that group) and won only 2 of them (3 of the losses were complete blowouts).  This team is properly ranked in the 20ish range imho.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: Stupid Fitz on February 12, 2013, 08:07:13 AM
I am soothed by the hilarious possibility of winning the conference despite getting swept by KU.

we aren't winning the conference fwiw. 0% chance.

Prob more like 2% but no, we aren't winning the B12
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: puniraptor on February 12, 2013, 08:13:44 AM
I am soothed by the hilarious possibility of winning the conference despite getting swept by KU.

we aren't winning the conference fwiw. 0% chance.

Prob more like 2% but no, we aren't winning the B12

0% chance im listening to you guys about this particular issue.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: kso_FAN on February 12, 2013, 08:31:58 AM
I am soothed by the hilarious possibility of winning the conference despite getting swept by KU.

we aren't winning the conference fwiw. 0% chance.

It will be a lot of fun, if we do...

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Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: puniraptor on February 12, 2013, 09:06:25 AM
 :combofan: :combofan: :combofan: :combofan: :combofan: :combofan: :combofan:
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: _33 on February 12, 2013, 09:14:37 AM
I am soothed by the hilarious possibility of winning the conference despite getting swept by KU.

we aren't winning the conference fwiw. 0% chance.

Well, I think we still can.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: steve dave on February 12, 2013, 09:15:33 AM
I am soothed by the hilarious possibility of winning the conference despite getting swept by KU.

we aren't winning the conference fwiw. 0% chance.

Well, I think we still can.

there are probably a lot of people that think that.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: _33 on February 12, 2013, 09:17:45 AM
I am soothed by the hilarious possibility of winning the conference despite getting swept by KU.

we aren't winning the conference fwiw. 0% chance.

Well, I think we still can.

there are probably a lot of people that think that.

4 that I know of.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: kso_FAN on February 12, 2013, 09:20:39 AM
I am soothed by the hilarious possibility of winning the conference despite getting swept by KU.

we aren't winning the conference fwiw. 0% chance.

Well, I think we still can.

I'M WITH YOU! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjXyqcx-mYY)
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on February 12, 2013, 09:22:21 AM
Put ours and KU's remaining schedules and tell me don't have a chance of finishing with a better record, dorks
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: catzacker on February 12, 2013, 09:22:33 AM
I am soothed by the hilarious possibility of winning the conference despite getting swept by KU.

we aren't winning the conference fwiw. 0% chance.

Well, I think we still can.

there are probably a lot of people that think that.

Hey SD, if you’re taking a vote, I do not think we win the conference.  As a matter of fact, I think we finish 4th.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on February 12, 2013, 09:28:43 AM
we don't suck we just aren't good.  whats great is the rest of the big 12 isn't very good either.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: GCJayhawker on February 12, 2013, 09:31:32 AM
Well this thread is silly, KSU does not suck.  They just ran into a buzzsaw yesterday.  Wrong place and wrong time.  Still alive for a conference title and if matchups fall right they could certainly make a run in the tourney.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on February 12, 2013, 09:33:35 AM
Any KU fan that thinks this isn't a rivalry needs to explain the crowd from last night
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: GCJayhawker on February 12, 2013, 09:38:55 AM
Any KU fan that thinks this isn't a rivalry needs to explain the crowd from last night

Never heard me say it wasn't a rivalry.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on February 12, 2013, 09:54:41 AM
Any KU fan that thinks this isn't a rivalry needs to explain the crowd from last night
The last 20 years proves this isn't a rivalry.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: MadCat on February 12, 2013, 10:00:32 AM
IMO, rivalries shouldn't be defined by how close the historical records are.  See: Iowa State
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: catzacker on February 12, 2013, 10:02:08 AM
Any KU fan that thinks this isn't a rivalry needs to explain the crowd from last night
The last 20 years proves this isn't a rivalry.

this.  it's a rival by geography only.  otherwise, ku is our basketball daddy.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on February 12, 2013, 10:07:34 AM
Any KU fan that thinks this isn't a rivalry needs to explain the crowd from last night

Never heard me say it wasn't a rivalry.

Good thing I didn't call you out then
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: TheFormerKCCat on February 12, 2013, 10:52:04 AM
Well, I think we still can.
I'M WITH YOU! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjXyqcx-mYY)

¡Sí, se puede!  :combofan:  :bill: plenty of games left, just keep sawing wood & rowing the boat (but NOT at the same time)
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: GCJayhawker on February 12, 2013, 11:12:21 AM
Any KU fan that thinks this isn't a rivalry needs to explain the crowd from last night

Never heard me say it wasn't a rivalry.

Good thing I didn't call you out then

Damn straight it's a good thing.  Just joking I'm not an internet tough guy
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on February 12, 2013, 11:13:55 AM
Any KU fan that thinks this isn't a rivalry needs to explain the crowd from last night

Never heard me say it wasn't a rivalry.

Good thing I didn't call you out then

Damn straight it's a good thing.  Just joking I'm not an internet tough guy

 :tsc:
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: sys on February 12, 2013, 08:49:44 PM
remember in pullen's sr. year when kstate was a dumpster fire and then won every game for like a month?  that was a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: michigancat on February 12, 2013, 09:03:58 PM
remember in pullen's sr. year when kstate was a dumpster fire and then won every game for like a month?  that was a lot of fun.

What if we're like that but opposite
Title: Re: Re: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: CNS on February 12, 2013, 09:05:19 PM
remember in pullen's sr. year when kstate was a dumpster fire and then won every game for like a month?  that was a lot of fun.

What if we're like that but opposite

Would be a coaching issue. #BID

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Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: _33 on February 12, 2013, 09:06:37 PM
Februceary.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: EMAWmeister on February 12, 2013, 09:10:20 PM
FWIW, a legitimate title contender is getting their asses waxed on the road by their in-state rivals. Do they suck?
Title: Re: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: sys on February 12, 2013, 09:10:39 PM
What if we're like that but opposite

i don't think that's the case though.  just enjoy winning was the moral i wanted to be taken away from the story.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: gatoveintisiete on February 12, 2013, 09:34:55 PM
Yes, a good team, but we have played 6 games against sweet 16ish type teams (for now counting OSU in that group) and won only 2 of them (3 of the losses were complete blowouts).  This team is properly ranked in the 20ish range imho.

I discount Michigan and Gonzaga, played them before we were any good at all, two losses to Ku expected, close one at Hilton.  This is an overacheiving
experienced, average talent team, one that beats the teams it is supposed to, can sneak up on a top ten team if said team is not looking, and will usually be crushed by an overly talented team that is paying attention.  I'm pleased.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: catzacker on February 12, 2013, 09:38:03 PM
This team is many things but overachievers is not one of them.
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: catzacker on February 12, 2013, 09:42:53 PM
remember in pullen's sr. year when kstate was a dumpster fire and then won every game for like a month?  that was a lot of fun.


man, that stretch, the stretch between fort hays and mu in '10, and that run after we were like 0-4 in conference in '09.   :thumbs:
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: gatoveintisiete on February 12, 2013, 09:50:32 PM
This team is many things but overachievers is not one of them.

boy, you're not dumb or anything, should we be in the top 5?
Title: Re: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: CHONGS on February 12, 2013, 09:59:59 PM
Yes, a good team, but we have played 6 games against sweet 16ish type teams (for now counting OSU in that group) and won only 2 of them (3 of the losses were complete blowouts).  This team is properly ranked in the 20ish range imho.

I discount Michigan and Gonzaga, played them before we were any good at all, two losses to Ku expected, close one at Hilton.  This is an overacheiving
experienced, average talent team, one that beats the teams it is supposed to, can sneak up on a top ten team if said team is not looking, and will usually be crushed by an overly talented team that is paying attention.  I'm pleased.
Well yes if you discount all of our losses then we're great.

By the way by your logic the Florida win shouldn't count either. 


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Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: kim carnes on February 12, 2013, 10:02:19 PM
I am soothed by the hilarious possibility of winning the conference despite getting swept by KU.

we aren't winning the conference fwiw. 0% chance.

Well, I think we still can.

there are probably a lot of people that think that.

4 that I know of.

make that 5
Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: J on February 12, 2013, 10:02:40 PM
NO. PERIOD.
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Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: catzacker on February 12, 2013, 10:18:58 PM
This team is many things but overachievers is not one of them.

boy, you're not dumb or anything, should we be in the top 5?

We are right where we should be sans a loss to ku at home.  That's not overachieving.
Title: Re: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: gatoveintisiete on February 12, 2013, 10:19:29 PM
Yes, a good team, but we have played 6 games against sweet 16ish type teams (for now counting OSU in that group) and won only 2 of them (3 of the losses were complete blowouts).  This team is properly ranked in the 20ish range imho.

I discount Michigan and Gonzaga, played them before we were any good at all, two losses to Ku expected, close one at Hilton.  This is an overacheiving
experienced, average talent team, one that beats the teams it is supposed to, can sneak up on a top ten team if said team is not looking, and will usually be crushed by an overly talented team that is paying attention.  I'm pleased.
Well yes if you discount all of our losses then we're great.

By the way by your logic the Florida win shouldn't count either. 


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Title: Re: Do we suck?
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on February 13, 2013, 10:30:20 AM
This team is many things but overachievers is not one of them.

boy, you're not dumb or anything, should we be in the top 5?

We are right where we should be sans a loss to ku at home.  That's not overachieving.

Ah-ha.  So you were expecting us to be top 10 / top 5.  Tough crowd, yo.